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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:20 am: | 
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I think it is important here to make a distinction between the Third World War as described in The Henoch Prophecies, from future conflicts described in separate prophecies. They are different. By “calculations and observations” Quetzal narrows the time frame of WW3 as described by Henoch to, “now and also during the approaching few decades,” p.312, And Still They Fly. Since the date of his comment was February 28, 1987 in Contact 215, a quick calculation will position this before 2029.
Regards
Bob |
Ed209
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 05:25 am: |
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Phi_Spiral
Thankyou for your comments, I was unable to respond any sooner as I have been away for a couple of weeks.
Regards
Ed |
Gib_niner
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 06:18 am: |
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hi all,
Bob mentioned that the threat of WW3 is "now, and also during the approaching few decades"
However..
Is the opinion generally held by FIGU that the passing away of the four leaders of state last december (Hussein, Ford, Pinochet, and Niyazov) DID account for the the four that were warned of to billy in contact 251 - (even though very strictly speaking they were a little outside of being 7 days from each other - yet still extremely close to each other nonetheless) in respect to the last indicator that the new war would be certainly immininent withing a 2 year time frame of that event occuring. - and starting in the month of november of whichever year.
and IF the above is to be taken at face value - would it not be unreasonable to assume that starting from december of last year - that if we can get through 2 years of having no big global war erupting - that by and large then ,consequently, that we would be very much in the clear - the majour critical time as such then having been passed over peacefully...
OR - is it more likely that WW3 nevertheless STILL could come to transpire after this two year time frame has finished owing to the lingering instability of the world stage as we know it...in spite of Ptahh saying that it would be within that 2 year time span???
just curious about these issues.
saalome
gib. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 03:37 pm: |
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Interesting question, Gib.
In Contact 376 on February 03, 2005, there was speculation that WWIII was possible in 2006; that George W. Bush would be to blame; and Iran & Syria would be involved.
Then came the Democratic victory in the November 2006 USA elections and according to Ptaah, the immediate threat was removed.
The latest news that I am aware of concerning WWIII is in FIGU Special Bulletin 33 dated March 8, 2007 which includes the following excerpt from Contact 440, dated Jan. 15, 2007:
Billy:Wie steht es aber mit einem Dritten Weltkrieg, hat sich da Neues ergeben, seit der Kriegstreiber Bush etwas an die Kette gelegt wurde?
Billy: But how does it stand with a Third World War? Is there something new since the warmonger Bush has been somewhat fettered?
Ptaah Wie ich dir schon früher sagte, schauen wir nicht mehr weit in die Zukunft, sondern nur noch wenige Wochen oder Monate.
Ptaah As I already said to you earlier, we do not look far into the future anymore, rather only a few weeks or months.
Was sich aber hinsichtlich eines Dritten Weltkrieges ergibt, das muss die Zeit erweisen.
Time must demonstrate what results, however, in regard to a Third World War.
Zumindest hat sich letztes Jahr eine derartige Gefahr gebannt, indem in den USA die Demokraten die Wahlen gewonnen haben und dem dem Machtwahn und Sektierismus verfallenen US-Präsidenten entgegenwirkten.
At least last year that sort of danger has been avoided, in that, in the USA the Democrats have won the election and they opposed the US President who has fallen to sectarianism and delusions of power.
Was diesbezüglich nun die Zukunft bringen wird, ist abzuwarten, wobei zu hoffen ist, dass sich der bisherige Kurs der US-Kriegsgegner erhält und auch bei allen andern Völker der irdischen Staaten ein selbiges getan wird, weil sich dadurch die Weltkriegsgefahr immer mehr mindert und so die diesbezüglichen Prophezeiungen in bezug auf ihre Erfüllungen abgewendet werden können.
We must wait to see what the future now brings in this regard, whereby one can hope that the course of the US war-opposers, up to this point, is maintained and the same is done by all the other peoples of terrestrial countries, because thereby the danger of a world war is ever more diminished and so the relevant prophecies, in regard to their fulfillment, can be averted.
Zur Zeit sieht es dafür gut aus, wobei zu hoffen ist, dass das auch so bleibt.
At this time it looks good for that, whereby one can hope that it also stays that way.
Billy: Man soll nicht hoffen, denn Hoffnungen bringen sehr oft Enttäuschungen.
Billy: One should not hope, because hopes very often bring disappointment.
Ptaah: Du weisst, wie meine Worte auszulegen sind.
Ptaah: You know how my words are to be interpreted.
Billy: Natürlich, die Meinung deines Wortes ‹hoffen› bedeutet, dass vorerst einmal Zuversicht bewahrt werden kann.
Billy: Naturally, the meaning of your word "hope" signifies that, for the present, confidence can be preserved.
(translation by Gaiaguys)
You can glean from this what you will.
Peace out
Bob |
Cpl
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Post Number: 290
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:51 pm: |
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Sounds like that two year period goes up to around November 2008 when Global Analysis says there is the possibility of the nuking of Minneapolis at the Republican convention as a "burning of the Richstag" pretext to dropping nuke bombs on two certain places in the ME. Perhaps that danger of igniting WWIII still exists -- and others.
Mankind needs ever be vigilant regarding the transforming of this planet into a peaceful one. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:29 pm: |
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Global Analysis is now saying that the likelihood of these detonations has decreased greatly due to the word going out about them. According to GAII certain high-up figures are aware of the possibilities now and so presumably would no longer be manipulable with such a "surprise" event. See
http://www.worldreports.org/news/78_how_wantagate_trigge
There is also the possible good news that the Federal Reserve might be done away with and the US finances return to the Treasury Dept. If these good events do transpire it could turn back (or off?) a ticking clock to WW III.
best,
cpl. |
Scott
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Post Number: 1293
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:34 pm: |
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Hi Gib,
According to Christian, the 4 heads of state which you mentioned, do not concur with information coming from FIGU.
Regards
Scott |
Michael
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Post Number: 586
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 09:35 am: |
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In keeping with the idea that, especially from this point on, there is not and will not be any significant difference between Republicans and Democrats (or between Bush and Hillary Clinton, etc.) and the powers and policies that are behind them all, please read:
http://www.examiner.com/a-953145~Bush_quietly_advising_Hillary_Clinton__top_Democrats.html
It may also help to keep in mind that all of the war (terror, actually), repression and elimination of human rights and related policies grew out of an attack on the U.S. that was known about and ALLOWED by Bush and others in his circle. So the victims of the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. citizens, are now the victims of the repression here at home, while Iraqis, who had no part in 9/11, are on the receiving end of U.S. terrorism abroad - with Iran next in their sights.
And make no mistake, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, etc. will be the next ones to announce the "need" to bomb Iran, or any other country that hasn't yet been attacked by the time Bush leaves office...if people continue to play the insane, dead end game of "politics".
Further, France, which now has set itself up as a surrogate newsboy for Bush:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070925/tpl-uk-un-assembly-france-19346ad.html
...is probably, by doing so, assuring the fulfillment of the Henoch Prophecies as it relates to its fall.
Michael Horn
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The_original_dave
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 05:07 pm: |
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Michael what makes you so sure Barrack,Hillary would announce the need to bomb iran.
It could happen but why would it happen, there entire campaign is anti war. Now we all know politicians are all lying scum bags but i seriously doubt they would do that. If the CIA felt the need to bomb iran they would do it now with the nut job we have as president.
About politics, yes there horrible but there gonna stick around for a long time to come.
As for France, the Henoch prophecies will probably come true, especially now with the new presidents ''brilliant'' plan to kick thousands or muslims out of the country. the riots are coming, sad but true. they have to do something to try and prevent them!. |
Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 07:12 pm: |
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Hi
A former intelligence analyst dared to write a possible chain of event leading within weeks to WW3, if the imbelievable imbecilistic and irresponsble G.W. Bush decides to launch air attack on Iran.
Notice the similarities with the Henoch prophecies...
Read it here:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/giraldi.php?articleid=11666 |
Francofiori2004
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 03:14 pm: |
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I think USA will attack Iran or Afganistan with nuclear bomb around 1 february 2008. It is an astrological prophecy of mine. ( Pluto in capricorn opposite to Mars in Gemini )
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Francofiori2004
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 06:25 am: |
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Billy made 3 prophecies, moreover woithout date, and only half of one became true. This is not proof of anything.
He said:
1)Islamic fanatists all around Europe with great damage. Where are them?
2) England falling and conquered. When happened?
3) Terrible rebellions and riots in France and Paris almost destroyed. Only realtively small riots happened sometime in France.
That's nothing impressive. On the contrary, it's proof that Meier cannot see into the future at all.
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Baselineplayer
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 10:43 am: |
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What I remember, prophecies are rather words of warning over what can happen when people do not listen to good advices. Thus, I could regard prophecies as warning advice.
Predictions are more in line with what happens in future, but I think it is valid for only one of several alternatives in future.
Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards
/Baselineplayer
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 326
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 10:49 am: |
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has francofiori2004 forgot the definition of "prophecy" as opposed to "prediction"?
that was feeble at best. |
Socrates
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:49 am: |
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Hey all,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe hearing that the Plejarens would not allow any nation to launch nuclear weapons. I heard this in the protocols. |
Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 01:42 pm: |
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Dear Franco,
Franco: "Billy made 3 prophecies, moreover without date".
Well if they were without a date, then i think it may happen later on in the future, and we must wait.
Salome
Aditya |
Vestri
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 07:21 pm: |
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Hi Socrates,
Unfortunetly the opposite of what you thought you heard is correct. |
Michael
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Post Number: 587
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 08:28 pm: |
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Watch and see how the Democrats, and even a Democrat president if elected, will not do away with the expanded powers that Bush stole for himself, as they will want to enjoy and use them too.
They are all pretty much cut from the same cloth, i.e. the hunger for power. So while they complain and make much noise they won't curtail the abuses, and the power therefrom, that they will inherit.
Michael Horn
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Kingman
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 01:07 am: |
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How right you are Michael,
As I research for myself the qualities and past actions of the current presidential candidates, I am left with sensing a certain imprint from each that contains the desire for power. While some are not as obsessed as others (H. Clinton), I am certain I can discern that subtle ingrained presence for the control or power over other humans.
Recently, a co-worker eluded to how powerful it would feel to stand up on a balcony and have all eyes and actions of the people below your view completely under your control. He used the stories of Hitler as his example.
I offered him reasons why the sensation would be short lived and become an uncontrollable disease of the human mind that will surely destroy oneself. While he agreed with my understanding, people on average will continue to not comprehend the reality of the power that is created when control over another human being is exerted, especially on a massive national scale. It is largely an unspoken component of human nature.
The reality we face is a great motivator when you consider this statement:
"One of the greatest creational truths, determined by law, is this: everything existing in nature and in the entire universe and in Creation itself, and so therefore also the entire life and BEING and all existence of all life-forms, endures through striving, in a fundamental form which points the way - in striving for the future, in striving for the higher, for evolution, for the highest possible perfection."
Examining our somewhat dark reality in our unfolding history, we are in position to experience an incredible, and unusual, amount of information needed for a earth human to evolve past this crippling spiritual stagnation. Greed, and power lust, will most likely propel us forward into our near future and our chance for a different choice. That is if we want to survive.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Francofiori2004
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 03:37 am: |
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"Dear Franco,
Franco: "Billy made 3 prophecies, moreover without date".
Well if they were without a date, then i think it may happen later on in the future, and we must wait.
Salome
Aditya"
"What I remember, prophecies are rather words of warning over what can happen when people do not listen to good advices. Thus, I could regard prophecies as warning advice.
Predictions are more in line with what happens in future, but I think it is valid for only one of several alternatives in future."
OH WELL IF MEIER'S PROPHECIES ARE OF THAT KIND THEY ARE TOTALLY USELESS AND EVERYBODY CAN DO THEM!
For example I can say "Hey people of germany watch out! One year in the next 100 years there is possibility Nazist fanatics provoke riots and even get power in your land! (but this all can change and not happen if Plejarens call me by phone and give me new prophecies)"
you call this make useful prophecies??
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The_original_dave
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Post Number: 98
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:25 am: |
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Franco, go to Michaels website, www.theyfly.com and look at the list of prophecies that have come true.
Billy's prophecies are helpfull since they warn us of what could/will happen if we do not change our way of thinking and take action for the better, but i guess your not smart enough to see that. |
Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 01:35 pm: |
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Dear Franco,
I think it would be appreciated if you could calm down and talk normally.
Let me ask you one question ---->
Are you really a beleiver in the Billy Meier case?
I raise this question because of the way you talk about Billy being always wrong and that he is with the Illuminati, and that he is starting a new religion, and that he wants people with him to support him.
Let me make this very very clear ---->> Billy never asked for any help, he was chosen because of his superior Spiritual knowledge, he didn't call people, people came after him. Later the people who were selected to stay with Billy were people he could trust. He never asked for any Glory, he never asked for anything, in this Forum he doesn't even want to be thanked.
What he wants is the people to get to know his knowledge, in a non-religious way, he wants them to know what he knows
You and I can't even imagine what a life he has, it is so hectic, his mind must always be filled with the worry of how to go about the mission next, what to do??
And still he finds time to answer our questions in the Forum.
Don't you think this man is very selfless, he cares about everyone but himself.
As far as the prophecies are concerned, it is beyond both, yours and my knowledge, how he gets them, he is very evolved, far more than we are.
These prophecies he gets not to show-off that he can tell the future, but to tell us to be aware and prepared.
I hope this clears things for you, i have tried my level best.
Salome
Aditya |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 02:20 pm: |
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I thought this was a rather interesting perspective of Ahmadinejad's recent visit to the US:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/29/4193/ |
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