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Cpl
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,

My own research, if you can call it that, (you can see a little of this in my recent premonition dream posts under "dream interpretation") suggests the Red Meteor will arrive towards the end of WW III, and put an end to it -- hence it will be allowed to come, assuming we do not prevent WW III from occurring. If we prevent WW III we may well prevent the coming of the Red Meteor, or gain assistance in preventing it. This appears to make sense in light of what Billy has said to date, and why no date has been given.

IMO this may well be the interpretation of the garbled prophecies about the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord which comes as a terrible judge to mankind ending the indiscriminate mass genocide of same, and also mentioned by Nostradamus. This is in as much as that refers to the outer world; as opposed to the mythic Great and Terrible day of the Lord with its accompanying slaying of the ego in the Mythic Death.

The Red Meteor IMO (based on reports of at least one other who had a number of "visions" of this) will be much larger than most people generally think meteors as being, and impossible for we terrestrials to deflect alone with any of our technology. So an actual date, to me, is pretty much irrelevant; what is relevant is WW III and our total defusing of its possible occurrence.

In addition, it is likely the meteor will be influenced by the solar system bodies in its incoming trajectory, meaning we would need the exact impact time (or does it just hit the atmosphere tearing open the earth's crust?), perhaps down to the hour of impact to perform the complicated calculations backwards to its point of origin. This seems to be traveling at an extreme speed.

IMO, effectively, its point of origin is our planetary mankind's failure to avoid WW III -- if we do indeed fail in that respect.

At the moment things are looking up in that regard. Let's keep the momentum towards no WW III going, and gradually increase it to "no possibility of occurrence". First things first, as they say.

Of course, the above is only so if I am correct with this interpretation.

Hope you are doing well,
Best,
Chris
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 458
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gees Dyson that is incredulous although not impossible an assumption.

I did not connect the dots on the first shuttle disaster but upon first reading of it in your post, my reaction was 'no way'

But then again I do not doubt the possibilities.

I wonder what the NASA 12 mile long tether was for back in 1996 when the secret transmission of it became public knowledge?

The swarms of UFOs in the film segment alludes to it being the work of the Plejarens

I wonder what came of the tether itself?
Was it salvaged?

As for the disclosure project, not much has come about in recent years

Where are they at this juncture?

Why the no progress even if stiff opposition from the powers that be may be undermining it from behind the scenes?

There are some UFO sightings posted on the youtube that seems to lack the plausible deniability factor integrated into it which gives you the feeling that it's terrestrial in origin but if it's work of ETs, I cannot see why many more such sightings over major cities cannot be done in the immediate future as certain section of the population in certain regions seems more than ready to deal with such reality which could be filtered down to others.

As for the nature of ETs making themselves known, seeing as many here participating in FIGU have already come to grips with the knowledge of the existence of ETs, I wonder why it is not at all impossible for them to show their crafts to some members here without the plausible deniability factor integrated into how they'll show themselves and present an opportunity for the members to film them so that little by little more of good quality UFO sightings can be presented to the world for more controversy.

Case in point is the O'hare airport incident

Surely such factors of human psychology needing things to stay a mystery in order for it's continued interest in such a thing as the UFO may even be doing disservice through prolonged 'out of sight out of mind' factor being sustained too long.

Although you cannot force reality people are not psychologically prepared to handle, I think Hollywood has done a great job of preparing people for it's possibility.
Some figures indicate that 80% of the US population believe in UFOs and the possibilities of life existing elsewhere.

So my point is if the plejarens have reassessed the psychological tolerance level of some section of the population, then the section who are most ready to handle this truth can be targeted and approached in such a way that materials can be obtained to spearhead the 'UFO reality movement" that many ufologists are doing who with total ignorance of the wider picture are actually harming the cause even with the best of intentions.

Starting with regular appearance of crafts with good film opportunity would be a good start in a major city.

Would such request be imbecilically outrage or does it have some merit towards making progress of illuminating the ignorant masses of UFO reality along with the strong case for Billy given that the possible observer is none other than a Figu forum member of whatever description?

Seeing as what is already provided and put forth for scrutiny in old pictures and films may have this undue detrimental effect of minds already made up infecting impressionable minds new to this, sometimes there needs to be out with the old and in with the new although its set up in such a way that filters the genuine seekers against the idiots that have no place in their minds for it who become harsh critiques who want to do damage.


cheers
Matt
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 549
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Jakes,

No need to apologize! As long as you aren’t a reflexive contrarian, it’s just what the doctor ordered. I LIVE with (and love dearly) Earth’s greatest contrarian. :-)

You’re not exactly wrong about NASA, but terms like “front organization” etc. tend to break down in this Through-the-Looking-glass world of (unacknowledged) special access projects. We're talking TRILLIONS of bucks here, not just billions.

As a matter of fact, Amazon just now sent me an ad for a book about the NASA/satan nexus.

Here’s the URL:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=9PQ2UT7X8U8S&C=2O5LZYZTQA5KT&T=C&U=%2Fdp%2F0922915970%2Fref%3Dpe%5F606%5F5009950%5Fpe%5Far%5Fd6&H=YH9ahR4jHZXhO9iKfkHiBj7PkNYA

It’s called, Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons by John Carter, about the same sort of Eastern Templar Freemason (Ordo Templi Orientis) idiots who successfully sued us for defamation 20 months ago, but are too gutless to ask for their $30,000 blood-money. (We have our religious vilification trial coming up on March 22nd. We shall not attend)

I dunno where you read about NASA, but what I learned in the Disclosure Project pretty much dovetails with what the Plejaren say. Scroll down www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm until you find the Disclosure Project literature (big .zip files) Enjoy!

And check this out www.gaiaguys.net/behindthescenes.htm Scroll down until you get to the yellow highlighting.

Cheers!
Dyson
P.S. Matt, just saw yer post. I'll get back to ya!
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Chris

You've shared some very good point there Chris

I do agree wholeheartedly that the main issue and concern should be on preventing WW3
As for the Red Meteor, I gather that it's still pending as to what the future outcome would be.
I wonder if any astronomers both professional and amateurs are aware of the existence of this asteroid and whether anyone has informed anybody in this profession.
I've only took are cursory read of your post regarding the dreams you had because of the length but will take a closer look.
It seems very interesting.

It appear you have an extra sensory intuition accessible through your dreams that is akin to heightened premonition.

I've had similar experiences where I found myself exactly in the same situation I've dreamt about and a sense of deja'vu just blew me away.

Anyway good to hear from you again Chris

Hope you make your presence felt more often if time permits.

cheers
Matt
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Cpl
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Post Number: 236
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,

The question as to whether astronomers are aware of the Red Meteor is an interesting and potentially confusing one. There are reports of certain alleged whistle blowers saying they have -- though interestingly they tend to then say this is the old guy Planet X, or The Destroyer in Billy's literature.

For the moment, my opinion on this is that these "whistle blowers" had previous data on the Destroyer and may be unaware, due to change of work position, that that has been stopped and sent away. Perhaps some now working at top levels with the very best (top-secret?) astronomical equipment available to them are aware of this Red Meteor (and the change re The Destroyer, Planet X) but have chosen not to say anything about it. After all very few would be on a "need to know" basis from their point of view, and explaining how the contingency measures for X had changed to Red Meteor (RM) would need opening the, for them, can of worms of how X was sent back and who did it. So I think there would be extreme reluctance for them to talk about this to anyone outside of the very top inner circle.

This could then result on "inside reports" on the RM & X taken and confused for each other. After all, to all intents and purposes, the effects may be very similar, so why not let those on the inside not at the very top assume the RM is X. If this is so, those still working on it at the very top would indeed know about the Red Meteor while others would only know of X -- and still believe it is coming, and might even believe it is X when/if it does arrive.

It's possible, though, that no one on the inside even knows about the RM. They might only have old knowledge of X.

I've read a little of a report by one whistle blower who clearly seems to be confusing Planet X with the RM -- unless his information is just dated back to the late seventies, which it doesn't seem to be. That report is available at www.projectcamelot.com in their "interviews" section. I believe it is their latest interview put up last week. If you have a computer more modern than mine I believe you can watch the interview there.

Chris
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 555
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Matt,

Regarding your 458th post.

Some obvious display of existence is just not gonna happen, IMO, no matter how much Richard Boylan might believe otherwise.

The FIGU literature is full of explanations as to why this is the case, and the level of (non)acceptance of the truth is so low now, that a big revelation would be disastrous for Earthlings for – they say – about another 800 years.

These things take time and it is the job of us (who know) to gently inform the others – mouth-to-ear – about the ET reality.

Cheers!
Dyson
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Edward
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Post Number: 934
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Baselineplayer....and All.....

I will post this discussion further, here....


The "The Destroyer" = "der Zerstörer" if indicated as Comet, can not be
defined as a - planet -!

There is a distinction between the two!

A Comet is composed out of, mainly frozen H2O(water), in combination with
ammoniac, fine matter particles.....etc...which than; due to the extreme cold
temperature within the Cosmos, compresses it into a (rough) mass-like format.

A Planet, is not composed in the same above mentioned explanation!

[Additionally: Asteroid(s) = fragment(s) of a destroyed Cosmic body(i.e.
planet)]


Edward.
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Unluckyguy26
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is there anyone that could say more when it comes to Nibiru and all the others?

Recently i found something on the net about it and it was scary to see how NASA and the government know a lot more than they telling people. According to calculations nibiru is most likely to hit hearth in the year 2012 and bring global catastroph. it showed that nibiru was responsible for the great flood.In its 3500 year eleptical cycle, the documentary also show that this time its most likely that we get hit. It also showed that nibiru was or still is a battle field for different outer space civilisations that it was or still is inhabited by the Nephilims, sons of Yahweh wich didnt all died during the flood. it also showed picture recently taken from a site of an at least 36 feet long giant with a skull of over 5 feet long. I saw the picture and the comparaison of of the average human size of today and realized how badly they terorized the habitant of hearth at that time.So since Nibiru was what caused the flood apparently all or most of these giants dematerialized and took refuge on that planet that is now returning in orbit around our shared sun of a 3500 year cycle is gonna be our biggest problem in the next decade. Government and NASA dont want the people to panic so the dont tell them anything. But they have been preparing for this for a long time now trying to save only their own families, building away from the coast and of course undergroung bunkers away from the coast cause aparently they predict that ther will be tsunamies of 3 miles high and dangerous winds...(according to what i understood from it in my own words)
My question is that, was it all predicted by billy?
what can i do to protect those i know and care about?
will we see the return of the nephilims on earth?

Anyone care to discuss?
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Edward
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Post Number: 969
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Umluckyguy....

Welcome to the FIGU board.


Well, as far as I know is: that even Zachariah Sitchin spoke of Nibiru/PlanetX
in his writings, and Billy did mention once that Sitchin was unreliable. I am
not all to familiar with all his books, thus....I can not judge.

I did read once that there are scientists that are up-to-date of the
mentioned, but they dire not speak out their conclusions. All they did say is:
that if any asteroid or heavenly body enters into the Earth's Gravity-pull,
than it may have a Disastrous Consequence. But, as long as this in not
confirmed in any shape or form; we just do not have to worry about Nibiru
approaching our planet.


I myself, have no knowledge of the Nephilims. Perhaps these are Mythical
figures...which are found in our Folklore? And nothing more?

I do not remember Billy mentioning the Nephilims. Or anything, related to your
posting, further.

Like many times: your mentioned materials can be just an interpretation of an
individual whom translated his/her vision, just in his/her own way? And not
truly, interpreting the data, as it should? And as result: an Untruthful
manifestation would occur, which, again, is only False due to the wrong
interpretations of the matter(s).

I guess, we can take the mentioned with a grain of salt, perhaps?


Pleasant Studying....


Edward.
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Badr
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Luckyguy,

If you are up to do a bit of translation check the below links, these are a couple of bulletins that include somethings on Nibiru.

Bulletin 9 page 8
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/1996/nr_09/leserfrage?page=0%2C1

Link to the actual bulletin
http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_bulletin_09.pdf?download

Bulletin 10 page 10
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/1997/nr_10/leserfragen_0?page=0%2C1

Link to the actual bulletin
http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_bulletin_10.pdf?download

Hope it helps you further

Salome, Badr
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Edward
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Post Number: 970
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Unluckyguy.....


Here is an excerpt from Billy, you may find interesting?


English version.

QUESTIONS FROM OUR READERS

Question 4: A very cordial thank you for your reply to my questions [see
Bulletin, Vol. 2, #9, pages 6-8. Billy]

Response:

Snips>

Planet Nibiru/Nubiru/UNI has always been termed the "Planet of the Gods." It
is said that its reappearance in the SOL System will introduce the "Golden
Era" or the "Golden Epoch of our solar system," respectively. Yet another
name for planet/comet Nibiru must not be forgotten either when, in days of
yore, it was called "Antus." In connection with planet Nibiru and the crop
circles, I must mention that some people claim the related pictograms are
actually being drawn by the gods, to focus terrestrial attention toward future
events, just as I have done on previous occasions. These events, the
proponents claim, include Earth's reversal in rotation from West to East. The
result would produce sunrises in the West and so forth. Likewise, they state
that extraterrestrial races will officially land on Earth on March 27, 1997,
and will commence contact with terrestrial governments--a portion of this
claim can be traced back to the crop circles. This landing date was allegedly
transmitted to two pub-owner brothers during a one-hour telephone
conversation. Well, maybe we'll have a surprise on this point too--if an
actual ET public landing and the initiation of contacts with governments were
to transpire, we would be delighted, of course. If this were to happen,
however, all further contacts with the Pleiadians/Plejarans would immediately
cease, as they previously told me on several occasions. They abide by safety
rules to preserve the secret of their Plejaran culture and home worlds from
other space travelers with lower evolutionary levels than their own, mainly to
avoid disaster and havoc caused by other extraterrestrials--this does not even
take into account the lesser evolved aliens' dangerously low vibration levels
in comparison to those of the Plejarans.


Further in the beginning of the answer, Billy also mentions what I have
stated: the scientists and so forth, not really knowing the out-comes when
encountered in our system; only, assumptions/speculations/theories are made:
Moon being swifted away, and perhaps Mars will take our Moons place? Just to
name one. Even, it being inhabited....etc.


Edward.
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Badr
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

It might be a good idea to source this translation. I mean, mentioning who the translator is, helps avoiding people publishing translations for "disinformation" not saying that this is one. But might as well try to avoid it if possible, by mentioning the translator.

Salome, Badr
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Cpl
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Post Number: 336
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi 1Lg,

According to Billy, Nibiru, or the Destroyer as he calls it, is not coming back. It was sent away by the Ps after The High Council of Andromeda approved. If you look carefully at the two most popularly cited figures allegedly by "insiders" given on Planet X's approach to the earth and work out the math, it would have arrived back in the 1990s. So I don't think you need worry about those "credible" reports.

Of course, things will get quite hairy when The Red Meteor arrives. This, Billy and the Ps say is still on course to hit us sometime in the not-too-distant future it seems, though no one knows exactly when. Or if Billy does, he's not saying. We do know where this will hit: between the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea, tearing open the earth's crust there.

Best,
cpl
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Edward
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Post Number: 971
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Badr....

As it says:

QUESTIONS FROM OUR READERS

Question 4: A very cordial thank you for your reply to my questions [see
Bulletin, Vol. 2, #9, pages 6-8. Billy]


It was from a Bulletin. Official one:

FIGU Bulletin

English Edition

Published Periodically
Vol. 3 No. 1
German printing: Feb. 1997
English printing: Jul. 1998


I have no idea who does the official FIGU translations!?

You will have to ask FIGU, themselves?


Edward.
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 152
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Chris,

Hmmm....
Sounds like a big disaster will occur here on earth.
Could you give me more details on the Red Meteor?

Thanks

Salome
Aditya
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Edward
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Post Number: 972
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cpl.....


The Destroyer was an act of vengeance or something, as Quetzal once mentioned.

That is why the Plejarans 'Redirected' it.

It was deflected from its original course, by the early ancestors, which
caused a considerable amount of damage in the Sol System which was not of a
Natural Cosmic Origin.

Quetzal, even mentioned that he/they can not give further details of the past
event.

In the contrary, to the Red Meteor: which is a Calculated/Programmed Cosmic
Event! And thus, here...they(Plejarans) may not mingle in!

It is calculated to hit the Black/Baltic Sea region, as you stated, though.

Thus, it becomes OUR OWN, problem!

Thus, there is great scenario Distinction...between the two heavenly bodies.


Edward.
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Unluckyguy26
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Post Number: 11
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,Badr and Cpl

I thank you all for your insights and comments it is very appreciated.

To Badr: I appreciate that you gave me those references but i absolutely have no idea of what i was reading due to me not speaking german(so i assumed thats what it was). Is there another link where i can get it in english or french?


regards,
Lucky Guy
1luckyguy
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Scott
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Post Number: 1373
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eduard,

I thought the Destroyer Comet had its origins from the Lyrian interplanetary wars and the comet was a piece of a planet which was blown out into cosmic space. I don't think it was intentionally directed to the Sol System?...I remember a piece of Malona was intentionally directed towards Atlantis?

Regards
Scott
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Unluckyguy26
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Post Number: 13
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HELLO CHRIS

How big are we talking about, do you have any idea?
Is it big enough to completely wipe that side of the world or to bring the whole planet to, i would say, rubble?


regards
1luckyguy
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Badr
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

For some reason I didn’t think this bulletin was translated by FIGU, not so up to date with what material has been translated to English. Thanks any way…

Hi Luckyguy,

I assumed you don’t know German that is why I told you, that you might need to translate it. There are many websites around, but from what I heard Google translator is quite good.
http://www.google.co.uk/language_tools?hl=en

Salome, Badr
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Edward
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Post Number: 973
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Badr....


It is OK...:-)

When I post an excerpt, it is always from an Official FIGU Bulletin or
translation(book[lets]). I never, post excerpts that are not Official FIGU
translations.

I want to keep my info/data ONLY from FIGU, itself; to prevent any further
misunderstandings, in the future, OK....

I thought, I mentioned this once, here...ways back. May have slipped your
mind?


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 974
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott....


Quetzal, said he did not know the precise details, or something. But,
still: the Cause may have been your mentioned War. Thus, the heavenly body
which is known to us as the Destroyer, resulted/effected from that scenario.

One way or another, the War Redirected it to the Sol System, possibly? I have
further no detailed information on that. It is a Mind And Guess game for us at
the moment.


I just did a look up: and it is indeed, mentioned in Guido's book AY...TF, pg.
316.

Quetzal does not give anymore details, as I have. Thus, my Memory, did fine, I
would say...:-)


Edward.
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Scott
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Post Number: 1374
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,

During contact number 5, Semjase goes into some detail regarding the origins of the "Destroyer" Comet. I was mistaken, it had nothing to do with any Lyrian Planetary Wars. It was a natural occurence...

Regards
Scott

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