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    Psycloud Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2006 |
Is the Venus Fly-Trap, Pitcher Plant, and Sundew plants in the middle of an evoultionary stage inbetween that of plant and animal? On developing worlds, are there more types of Carnivorous Plants so to speak? I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 300 Registered: 07-2005 |
dear members I am not sure whether this post is appropraite in this section but I have noticed while flying in a plane, this inner tranquility, calmness, peace, quiet uninterupted solitudinal contemplation, sense of wonder and broadening of the mind takes place. I don't know whether it was to do with seeing the earth from above but I get the sense that the higher the altitude you are positioned the less negative forces impinges upon the psyche. I am sure there are other explanations but it happens every time I fly on a plane. Could this be an erroneous assumption of mine when I say that the bell shaped negative belt enveloping the earth can be superceded the higher you go up the alitude thus the negative forces diminish? Another thing I've noticed is that the bigger the city you live in, the greater the magnitude of negative forces but the collective intellectual consciousness is much more powerful thus leading to creative ideas that seem to inspire itself. As for the smaller towns, the greater are the goodwill and environmental prestiness (depending on the town) but more intellectually impoverished and lacking of inspirational ideas in the collective consciousness of the place. I wonder if there is any grain of truth in what I say when you could actually feel subconsciously these qualities about the places? cheers Matt | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 996 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Newinitiation, Yes, I have noticed that also. My feelings are that it has to do with vibrations from other people. I used to fly hang gliders, and when I would get above 3,000 feet AGL (above ground level), I would notice a peaceful and more quiet feeling within myself. Also I have noticed when hiking in wooded areas I have come across what I call quiet spots, where there seems to be a stillness in the air, and it seems quieter than other areas within the same area. It is very noticeable to me, but I don't know what it is, maybe some form of energy vortex or something similar? Regards Scott | ||
Kiril Member Post Number: 160 Registered: 12-2005 |
Yes this is interesting, my experience of a similar kind comes when I go yachting, around 1-2 kilometres from the coast. I've been trying to decide if this is a purely self induced psychological effect or is driven by some external cause. In the case of the latter I had contemplated that it had something to do with the waters ability to absorb and retain a special type of non-thermal-electric radiation that comes from the sun. It may be a similar case with flying, especially when near high density clouds of water(or very humid days). And especially hang-gliding since there are lesser barriers between you and the clouds. Then again it could also be the change in air pressure and the effect that has on the chemicals released into your blood stream to cope with it(and lack of air). Kiril | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 07-2005 |
Interesting gentlemen There is some merit to it afterall. I recall an american astronaut by the name of Edgar Dean Mitchell who've said something to the effect of experiencing Savikalpa-samadhi, seeing things in their seperateness and experiencing them viscerally and inwardly in their unity while being in one of his space missions. In another words feeling ecstasy and bliss. Whilst his Institute of Noetic Science would have made many ground breaking inroads towards further understanding of the nature of consciousness, it pays homeage to just how unfathomably wise billy and the plejarens are to have knowledge of the existence of Creation I would think would not have been known for a very long time if it wasn't for providence and already worked out determination couple of millenias ago. So I gather that from the point of trying to understand these feelings that I could not definitively pinpoint, Mr Mitchell's, along with you fellas experiences does shed some light and maybe an indirect path towards understanding this experience. We are indeed all connected as one as many among many. cheers Matt | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2006 |
I also have had this feeling when in a plane, I attributed it to seeing the earth below, something that we probably did not see in our recent past lives. However it could be attributed to being away from the population, and their negative thoughts. However last time I flew in a plane, I looked down at the earth and felt saddness. I looked out of the plane and the earth looked like a desert, and the only green areas on the surface were hugging the river banks, when I used to look out and see a green earth. Even some of the lakes we flew over looked like half of the lake was gone, and what was left was sand and mud. It reminded me of what Mr. Meier has been telling us, we are destorying our environment from overpopulation and pollution. It was a real eye opener for me I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Kiril Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 12-2005 |
Psycloud: I'm curious, genuinely so, if you have carried out any research on the physical-biological nature(as apposed to abstract) of "thoughts" - and their ability to be transmitted to others? Cheers, Kiril | ||
Technod Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2003 |
Hello Rarena Did i understand from one of your posts that you accquire live plants? If so are they cultivatable? I have recently found the relaxing synchronisity of horticulture and am looking forward to a new grow season. I would like to also understand the benifts of the plant world, that i read about in a book i have on medicinal recipes, called "the herb Bible".{bad title!} Would any one have a reliable source to study on what herbs are healthful for the human, peace and Happy New Year Everyone Brian Best | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Technod, Yes the plants imported are live but are without soil and are sprayed with Methyl Bromide MeBr but due to it's effect on the ozone layer it is finally getting phased out. Don't know what the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) will be using next. The book that is very helpful is called Indian Herbalogy of North America... available here on Amazon.comhttp://www.amazon.com/Indian-Herbalogy-North-America-Healing/dp/0877736391 The name of the book is a bit of a misnomer though because it is not merely the American Indian experience but also includes many other ethnicities such as Russian, early american, greek etc. It is also about more than North America. The book describes the medicinal qualities and uses. The Exotic Plant Manual by Graf is an excellent book for latin names and there is one by the American Horticultural Society called Garden Plants that is a good reference book as well. To get a permit to do what was described by me is available (to US residents) by writing the Department of Agriculture in Washington DC the zip is 000003 and that is a good enough address. The internet has an address as well, but have forgotten it and have some work to get to today...They will send you a permit, and you don't have problems with customs and airport security so much since you must follow their rules and by getting the proper permits you are doing just that.  Silphium, a fennel-like plant that grows (only naturally at this point in time) on a thirty mile swath in North Africa (coastal city of Cyrene, in what is now Libya) was worth it's weight in silver and was on coinage due to it's ability to prevent conception (the right use) and terminate pregancy (the incorrect use). The exact species that prevents pregancy may be extinct. Here is an old recipe to prevent conception: To Prevent Conception for one year An Ancient Recipe - not for home use 4 drams active principle of Embelia ribes 4 drams Piper longum 2 drams Ferula assa-foetida (fennel like plant) 4 drams of borax The above was taken to prevent conception for one year in equally divided doses daily for 22 days while abstaining from intercourse. A dram is aprox. one eight of an ounce. This plant that prevents pregnancy for up to three years, is not yet in cultivation for worldwide distribution to the poorer countries. | ||
Technod Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2003 |
HI Rarena Thanks for the heads up,and about the Silphium plant,was there a reason given why that plant only grows in that zone in north Africa. Brian Best | ||
Mike_hooten Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi People, Thanks for letting me post a different subject than the thread for a minute. This topic area is the best place for this short essay. In so many words Mr. Meier has stated that "Arizona" is the future place to be for some certain spiritual things. He hasn't given many details so I decided to just do some speculations on the whole issue of spirituality and Arizona until that time that he clears it up: Exactly what is it about Arizona that makes Mr. Meier tell us that we will be attracted to it? I have been thinking hard about this for several months now and have come up with a possibilities list. Of course, these are all just guesses so please consider them as such. One of the coincidences that is obvious is that there are many "new age" people attracted to Northern Arizona towns, like Sedona. The reason given on the Sedona internet sites is some new age word I have never heard of: "vortex". I doubt if anyone really knows what that is, so i cant discuss it. Speculations: Red Rocks? When you ask people about Sedona they say they like the red rocks. Maybe there is something to the color. Mr. Meier talks about "color immersion". Don’t know anything about that. Is it related to the Roswell Crash? Again surely not. Is it related to meteor crater? No one thinks that meteor crater is a crashed ET Ship like Tunguska. Is it related to Native American Indians? I have heard that the American Indian is descended from an ET Race. Perhaps there is a connection there. Maya connections? Maybe. Aztec connections? Maybe. Is it related to Copper? There is a lot of copper in the ground in Arizona. Maybe a connection there is of some sort. Biome? Mid-Northern Arizona is a transition biome between Sonoran Desert and Colorado Plateau. Too high for cactus. Too low for tall pine. Scrub pine is the vegetation. What about Earth surface location? Billy talks about the Pyramids and even has us meditate in front of one. Is Northern Arizona lined up with the pyramids? (No) What about other "spiritual"places: Is it lined up with the Andes?(no) Is it lined up with Jerusalem? (no)Bethlehem? (no) Nazareth? (no)Mecca? (no) Switzerland? (no) What IS lined up with? It is lined up with Cyprus and Northern Africa, no particular city. It is on the same parallel with Kyoto, Japan and Lanzhou China, if there is any connection there. But what if we travel due north from Flagstaff over the pole and then down to the opposite side of the Earth? We are now in the middle of the southern Indian Ocean. But if we go back north we go through Pakistan, Srinigar. hummm..Semjase said that Pakistan "holds many secrets". Perhaps there is a connection there. I think that there is a pyramid of some kind in Pakistan. Is Northern Arizona related to ancient human habitation centers? Probably. Is it related to Atlantis?Frank Lloyd Wright built many buildings in Arizona. I always had the feeling about his architecture that it was "Atlantean". Maybe there is a connection there. Is it related to Hyperborea? Maybe. Mt Shasta is not too far but also not close. Is it related to the Gizeh intelligences? I would say not. They never seemed to hang out there. Is it related to the technical civilization that predated Atlantis? I have a just wild guess that it might be related to the Pelegon era somehow. Pelegon may have been related more to Western Hemispheric events. Is it Geologic? Perhaps. Is it related to the age of rocks? The Colorado plateau is one of the oldest plates in the world at least 600 million years. What is the geologic nature of northern Arizona? This is I think where the trail gets warmer. There are huge geologic "anomalies" so to speak in Northern Arizona. They are just unique or somewhat unique aspects of the Earth: Northern Arizona is a RIFT. It is a little confusing because there are actually three plates in this area. Related to this is the Rio Grande Rift. The Great Basin and Plain is also a rift but from different plate sides. Notice how the edge of the basin goes right through Sedona/Prescott/flagstaff etc!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Basin_and_Range_extent.jpg Northern Arizona is in the middle of the deformed craton which is midway between the accretionary belt and the north American craton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:North_america_craton_nps.gif http://element.ess.ucla.edu/publications/1998_Laramide/1998_Laramide.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:North_america_craton_nps.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Image:Laurasia-Gondwana.png http://tapestry.usgs.gov/features/28riogrande.html http://www.nmsu.edu/~ucomm/Releases/2005/February/rio_grande_rift.html http://serc.carleton.edu/earthscoperockies/abstracts2.html My best guess about Arizona is that it receives a higher or different level of magnetic energy from the core of the Earth (which everyone believes is a big iron ball than most of the rest of the surface of the Earth, for a very simple reason: The crust is thinner here because the plates are separating. The crust of the earth is TEN KILOMETERS THINNER here. Notice also the interesting comment by the geologist trying to map the Rio Grande Rift many kilometers down into the Earth that the gap was WIDER at the bottom, many kilometers down!! This is definitely a case for higher levels of magnetism/gravity or whatever coming from the Earths core simply due to reduced shielding. Would like to hear everybody else’s ideas too!!! Best to all. Mike Hooten. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 436 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Mike, Interesting! Just 2 cents from me: Magnetism? Billy advises that we sleep parallel to the Earth’s deleterious magnetic lines of force to avoid laterally bisecting any more of them than we have to. If the crust is thinner, then the gravity would be (almost immeasurably) less, not more, because there would be less mass, and that crustal mass wouldn’t block gravity anyway. How about weather patterns/prevailing winds? More winds from the Pacific, and less radioactive fallout from the rest of the nuked USA? I thought Billy said, “Oklahoma”. Salome, Dyson | ||
Lonnie Member Post Number: 121 Registered: 12-1999 |
Dear Mike and Dyson, Billy NEVER gave his approval to Oklahoma. A certain area in Arizona was chosen by the Plejaren over 25 years ago, according to the 423rd contact. There are many reasons why. Some of which have been touched on here. Further details about this will be outlined in an upcoming future issue of the FIGU bulletin. Salome, Lonnie | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 163 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Technod, The Silphium plant cannot be cultivated. It only grows "naturally" in this area of the world. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 452 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, I just want to share a wonderful personal experience we just had regarding one of Creation’s mind-blowing cosmic masterpieces. McNaught’s Comet was 10 times brighter than Halley’s Comet, and Vivienne and I got our first really good look at it last night. Supposedly no longer visible to the naked eye (in the city, I guess!) after Tuesday, it was brightest here on Sunday, but, due to clouds, we first caught a clear naked-eye glimpse of it on Thursday evening, where it only appeared as a small “classic” comet with a tail about 4 degrees long, lost in the rural dusk before it set into a cloudbank. The situation was similar but worse on Friday. But last night, aside from some high-altitude smoke on the horizon from very distant bushfires, the sky was crystal clear and the comet, which was progressively dimmer and higher in the sky, stood out more and more as the sky gradually darkened. By 9PM, as the head of the comet had set behind the low hills west of us, the full extent of the unbelievable tail became fully visible! This is the MOTHER of all comets, and I can hardly wait to see the best photographs of it! Unique! With both my hands extended flat, at arms length, I could not obscure the massive glowing tail, which extended so far into the sky that it was hard to imagine that it could have been a comet that had done that. My little illustration here gives you a hint of what was visible, far away from any electric lights, and since the new Moon is now waxing, that may have been the only opportunity to see anything like that, ever. Cheers! Dyson  | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 453 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear fellow outer-space fans! Here's what we can see every night, and as the comet rises a little more in the sky every evening, and the bushfire smoke abates, it justs gets better and better! Cheers! Dyson More photos here: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~loomberah/mcnaught.htm  Rob McNaught taking images of Comet McNaught on 20th January, 2007 at Siding Spring Observatory | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 394 Registered: 07-2005 |
They are fantastic pictures Dyson much more spectacular than when I first saw with my own two eyes back in 1986 of the halley's comet passing across the night sky. cheers matt | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2007 |
gaiaguysnet, amazing pictures. a question to anyone i just finished watching a video about usa secrets and stuff and i wanted to know if this was true. was there really an alien race who wanted our dna in order to help repair there dna in order ot reproduce again because there from mars? is there really a colony of us, russian and alien races together?? did the pleidians try to stop this by giving usa a warning about the alien race to tell us to get rid of our nuclear weapons and to live peaceful because they said that they look human. Derek : I swear.....there out there.... Lisa : um....Derek your a little crazy....aliens dont exist...... Derek : Well clearly...they do then why is the ufos out there.... Lisa : umm...yea w/e your insane.... Derek : Well....tthe thing about being insane is weither your not insane and you say your not insane ppl look at you in denial and say you are insane and when you do say your insane, your insane....so its not fair.....man this world is so stupid.... | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 884 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Syn.... Welcome to the FIGU board. Well, in the past there has been many many Theories/Conspiracies, concerning Aliens that came to Earth to harvest healthy DNA, to improve their own material body. Such was even mentioned with the Grays. That they were a dying race, which needed healthy DNA to Stabilize their own DNA build-up and so forth. But we know, that those so-called 'Grays', from some decades back, were all 'Manufactured' scenarios, conjured up by various Intell organizations! To mainly: MISLEAD the Truth concerning UFOs/IFOs...Extraterrestrial Space Crafts...etc...etc in general, into Ridicule! The Gray-like creatures, were told by the Plejarans, to be 'artificial' Androids! Thus, NOT related directly to the human species: And had no relations to the above mentioned scenario(s)! And concerning: "is there really a colony of us, russian and alien races together??" This is, as far as I know: Ridiculous! Non-sense! The Plejarans do want to make us Earthlings Conscious...of the Consequences of our Nuclear Arsenal, though. But, not in the sense you stated in your posting ...as far as I know of. Edward. | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2007 |
http://stage6.divx.com/user/dferox/video/1621112/William-Cooper-Exposing-the-Truth this was teh source of my questions. William do claim that he is telling the truth about the government and the alien cover up, so he mentioned about the base in the moon which could explain the jaded moon pictures some people seen and also that we can be in space without a suit just needs a counter compression and oxygen...i would like someone from figu to see if any of this is 100% athentic. No offence Edward Derek : I swear.....there out there.... Lisa : um....Derek your a little crazy....aliens dont exist...... Derek : Well clearly...they do then why is the ufos out there.... Lisa : umm...yea w/e your insane.... Derek : Well....tthe thing about being insane is weither your not insane and you say your not insane ppl look at you in denial and say you are insane and when you do say your insane, your insane....so its not fair.....man this world is so stupid.... | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1302 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please let's get back on topic | ||
Markc Member Post Number: 598 Registered: 06-2000 |
I saw a PBS program about the connection between Dinosaurs ( raptors ) and Birds . They have found fossils ( in China ) of smaller Raptors who developed feathers on their skin , and others that had developed small glider arms , the precursor to wings . Others with wings were found . I recall a contact in which Billy discusses this evolution with the Plejaren . If you look closely at bird's faces , they resemble lizards , and upon closer examination , they'll peck your eyes out . MC Mark Campbell | ||
Trevor Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 05-2007 |
"If you look closely at bird's faces , they resemble lizards , and upon closer examination , they'll peck your eyes out." Thats was very funny Mark, so funny I can't stop laughing about how funny it was. |
