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    Technod Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 07-2003 |
Mars is back in the spotlight again with a fresh new pair of eyes that should be public for all. Unless there are military phone booth there that might get tapped i am sure the world is in need of some off planet excitment. the supposed water on one of saturns moons"Enceladus"that nasa gave us seems like a small ripple so far. peace dear mars brian | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 763 Registered: 02-2000 |
Titanic director James Cameron working with Nasa. They won't be able to fool him if they play with the camera. Well, one of the side projects that he’s doing is working in conjunction with the MALIN SPACE SCIENCE SERVICES group… those are the guys that developed the M.O.C. Global Surveyor that’s been mapping Mars for the last couple of years. That’s completely changed everyone’s belief of what MARS is. Well, the next big NASA mission is going to have a Live Video Stereo Motion Image device that Cameron has been developing with M.S.S.S. to bring us back live 3D video images in full motion from the surface of Mars… all tied to the back of one of those nuclear powered Rovers that’ll be exploring, if all goes well, for years. See… Evangelical Techno-Fetishist. http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=22599} | ||
Anday727 Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 02-2006 |
Dear forum members, during the years, planet Mars is in focus of interest of many people, from ordinary to schoolars. I was really excited 1985-6, when in National Georaphic magazine Michael Collins explained to us how future international manned mission will look like. But 20 years have pass since than and I've found that idea of sending humans to Mars fade slowly but surely. Of course the officials, (from Nasa to US President), speek the same story(to moon, Mars and beyond), but somehow I think, for some reason they will delay this mission as much as possible. I don't think that costs are the reason for that, technology either. Entire Apollo program costed as one day war in Vietnam. All those nice pictures of/from Mars they present to us are only "buying a time". The Oportunity/Spirit rovers doing the same thing the Viking 1 and 2 did. They (Nasa) are well informed about composition of Mars soil since 1975-6. They know also what images of Cydonia area shows. Also many other locations on Mars. Just try to read between the lines on www.space.com In Graham Hancock's book "Mars Mystery" are some explanations of those images; The face, the so called DM pyramid, (importance of 19.5 degree constant), and many other (man made) structures on Planet Mars. That what Billy says about what changes in way of thinkig will happen, when we humans from Earth found the evidence of man's existence on moon/Mars is so true. They (the secret keepers) know that also, and I think they are not happy because of that. I really hope that truth will come soon. Peace in wisdom to all, Dejan | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi everybody! I just made a small but striking update to our MARS page @ www.gaiaguys.net/MARS.htm and thought some of you would be interested. Salome, Dyson | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2006 |
Anday 727 i agree with you, but i`m gonna write harsh style: Of course Nasa and Esa will lie and deceive us about MARS until the last minute,when the MARSQUERADE is useless.(No scientific evidence,our instruments are not precise enough,those structures are geological,we lost contact for a while due to interferences,the lense was dirty, the robot`s Energizer batteries have run out,we built the probe with cheap parts from Taiwan...whatever you can imagine).I suspect in Mars and other places like Saturn Moons there are ET transit bases.Someday Nasa & Esa will sell us their big show:they found microbes and bacterial life in Mars,or even extraterrestrial evidence showing to the world a mere ridiculous 5% of their discoveries.Billy has warned that a large deception can be planned in the U.S concerning ET`s).They already hoaxed Apollo XI.It can be done again.Pixar,Industrial Light & Magic will do the rest.I will keep skeptical. Hey Gaiaguysnet,your Mars page is fantastic. www.gaiaguys.net/MARS.htm Saalome | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 199 Registered: 07-2005 |
dear forum I wonder what you friends think about these images It said from other sources that NASA is airbrushing things from the photos quite regularly. http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-evidence.htm cheers | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 171 Registered: 03-2004 |
Yo Newinitiation! I reckon that these things look very very "electronic", like magnified digital data. If I didn't know any better, and went there looking for evidence of ETI, and saw that first picture with the big arrows excitedly pointing to nothing at all, I'd just snort, think it was ALL b.s., and move on. Whose agenda would THAT serve? Why doesn't ANYBODY on the WWW use the MIND-BLOWING stuff from Metaresearch??????????? http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/asom/artifact%5Fhtml/ I'll tell you why. It's for the same reason the eschew FIGU. Too much for their tiny religiously poisoned minds. (Thanks, Hector!) Salome, Dyson | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 209 Registered: 07-2005 |
dear dyson Its crazy isn't it dyson, in light of some very credible info such as metaresearch, the best medicament for such infection peddled by the wannabes from such sites as bvalphaserver is all they can soothingly apply to the already pusy wounds, I understand your sentiment more than ever being in these type of forums, especially where the cockroaches seem to congregate to have their lively feed of rotting carcass. Btw knowing a bit more about you from the radar article was such a revelation, least of all your experiences during your tenure there of UFOs, gees Dyson, I know we may create our destiny but some things just cannot be preordainly dismissed as predestiny for some people, least of all your spirit form. PS. Can you send vivienne my thanks and gratitude, often she is the forgotten other half more often overlooked but in my case anyway, seeing as you are other half of each other, why, I naturally thank both of you even if I've been thanking one of you. cheers | ||
Psycloud New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2006 |
I personally think that ESA has a lot of more accurate pictures then NASA does, I found several color photos on there web site before which are still in black and white at NASA, but then again, what could they holding back I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 809 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Psycloud, I will have to agree. When many of the images were first released from the ESA, I saved as many as I could, because I thought at some point in the future they may be yanked from the website for various reasons. There was one which definitely looked to be a pyramid or at least resembled the shape of a pyramid. Scott | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2006 |
Could you post a couple? I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 241 Registered: 03-2004 |
hello friends there are also many photos that show what it seems to be water (in great quantities), also some show "things" that seem to be organic (like tree roots), green things in the soil like fungus or seaweed, there is one of a little metallic disk partially buried in the ground which definitely doesn´t seems to be "natural", a pair of UFOs in the sky, and many other interesting things. . . since this was the first visit to Mars by the Europeans they asked the NASA for maps and info for deciding where they would land their stuff, if i remember well it was because of the poor quality of NASA´s given info that one of their apparatus was lost in the profundities of a crater, i listened to interviews with the scientists which were clearly very angry because of this, but at the same time they were "diplomatic" and didn´t blamed NASA too much. . . i don´t know if all these images and info have been released to be public (i imagine that at least some), i saw them in Jaime Maussan´s show, where a guy called Rodolfo Garrido always show the new stuff in science (by the way this guy resembles A LOT Benjamin Franklin, it would not surprise if he was his reincarnation. . .)  take care | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2006 |
Has anyone else seen a documentary called "Project Redstar" which is totally focused on the Tithonia city on mars which they think is a settlement of some sort, and it does sort look egyptian with statues of people with there arms crossed, and pyramid looking objects. Any thoughts on that. I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2006 |
I have found an image on ESA website, where there is water in the upper part of the picture. You have to zoom in on the dark area to see it, and it becomes clear that the dark spot is blue surrounded by green. What does everyone think about water on mars anyhow? http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/198-280605-1104-6-co-01-NicholsonCrater_H.jpg I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2006 |
And for those of you who want an even clearer pic http://berlinadmin.dlr.de/Missions/express/second/15.07.2005/nicholson_crater_co.jpg I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Anday727 Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2006 |
 Dark spots (left) and fans (right) scribble dusty hieroglyphics on top of the Martian south polar cap in two high-resolution images taken in southern spring. Dear friends, more at: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060816_mars_icecaps.html Salome, Dejan | ||
Psycloud Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 06-2006 |
Do you think government agencies diliberately lie to the public about their finds on mars, or do you think they are truly delusion and pessimistic about any life being any where else excpet on earth? I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth. | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2007 |
Dear people, my two cents worth. Images taken in September 2006 from the European Space Agency (ESA) “Mars Express Probe” which recently sent back high resolution images of the so called “Face on Mars” and other “NATURAL” features located in the Cydonia region. http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM09F8LURE_1.html As too whether we should blindly accept what information ESA & NASA provide for us or too openly question it will be debated for a long time to come I guess. ________________________________________ Relating to the 251st contact (Friday February 3rd 1995, 12:01 a.m.) and the alleged structures on Mars… “Many years will pass before terrestrial human beings find the proof that their former Ur-Ur-Ur-ancestors came to the SOL system from alien solar and planetary systems to settle on Mars before emigrating to Earth. When they do, the first proof may also be found that mankind's earliest ancestors -- the genetically-manipulated people, or rather their descendants -- were refugees and exiles who originated in the Sirius regions. This proof will shake up the scientific community and, even more so, the religious world; it will prompt the need for great changes. That moment will come chiefly when artifacts from a previous human civilization are found on Mars, with pyramids and sculptures such as the so-called Mars faces representing but a mere fraction of the entire discovery”. ________________________________________ As too whether we should blindly accept what information Mr. Billy Meier / Plejarens provide for us or to question it openly will be debated for another long time to come I guess. It is my hope however that at least there may be some element of truth somewhere along the line relating to possible ancient structures on Mars, and it is a conjecture that cannot be ruled out entirely simply because it may sound impossible to us at our stage of evolution. Time will perhaps reveal those secrets to us. Kind regards Mike | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 477 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Mike, You wrote,"As too whether we should blindly accept what information Mr. Billy Meier / Plejarens provide for us or to question it openly will be debated for another long time to come I guess." Please let me reply quite emphatically. We should NEVER blindly accept what information Mr. Billy Meier / Plejarens provide for us, (or anybody else for that matter!) and we MUST question it openly and debate it for a long time to come. This is the crux of the renewed teachings. Check out our Mars artifacts section linked off of www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm And please see my partner Vivienne's article linked off www.gaiaguys.net/meier.htm about how we have to solve the puzzle ourselves. (Sorry I can't give you the URL, but we're under cyber attack again and I've got very limited computer function.) Cheers! Dyson | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 01-2007 |
Cheers Dyson, I understand. I will check out the links you have provided for me, many thanks for the information. I couldn’t agree more, “We MUST question it openly and debate it for a long time to come”. This is the crux of the renewed teachings” And we must try to the find the truth in those teachings and the information provided for us, even if it is a long and tedious path, but it is my hope that it will be a fruitful one. I would like to add further comments and information for forum members that may be of interest in relation to extraterrestrial artifacts. Some scientists have been actively engaged in the theoretical possibilities and searching for extraterrestrial artifacts not only those that are possibly on Earth but perhaps also within our Solar System including Mars (possibly ancient & recent) . This new approach is called SETA (Search for Extraterrestrial Artifacts); it is the fledgling science of Xenoarchaeology / Exoarchaeology. I have provided two links that may be of interest to you in this regard… http://www.setv.org/online_mss/seta83.html http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/S/SETA.html Regards Mike PS Dyson, hoping you can sort out that cyber attack and rectify the problem soon! Wishing you well! | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 480 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Mike! I'm so glad you've come on board! I can't stress highly enough the grave and lingering negative socio-political influences of the Bafath & Co. Put very simply, all scientific results which confront the status quo are suppressed, regardless of the field in which they occur. (The “distant data point disposal” that is a part of the conventional scientific method is grotesquely over-used, as well, as a study of the history of science reveals.) If these iconoclastic results are confronting enough to the criminal elite's suicidal death-grip on the rudder, as in Bearden’s electrodynamics correction, lethal force can still be applied, but the primary weapon of choice is sneering derision. Billy refers to this sub-category of misguided individuals collectively as the mockers and know-it-alls. But some data still slip through the net: www.gaiaguys.net/pa2000.pdf This article describes Ptaah’s references to free energy, etc.: www.gaiaguys.net/csetineedstoknow.htm The Plejaren have much to say about cryptozoology and cryptopaleontology. (I think that might be my own neologism, but you know what I mean I hope, as humans reportedly first arrived here 22 million years ago, and humans and dinosaurs were contemporaries.) (The computer is either slowly fixing itself, thanks, or it is being slowly fixed by friendly forces beyond our understanding.) Cheers! Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 575 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, Whenever the current war seems to be going particularly embarrassingly, we seem to get more nifty information from Mars. Now we are asked to imagine planetary-wide ELEVEN meter deep oceans of liquid water, which is what you apparently get if the polar ice caps were to melt and be evenly distributed over an ideally flat surface. Wow! No wonder there are all those dried river courses seen from above, among OTHER things! New article in the press on our MARS page (www.gaiaguys.net/MARS.htm) @ www.gaiaguys.net/smhmarsice170307.htm Cheers! Dyson | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1112 Registered: 02-2000 |
Does anyone know if Billy ever mentioned anything about humans from Earth currently on the Moon? I always wondered if any of those Moon Base rumors were true. My Website | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 621 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Norm, They’re quiet about anything to do with the military, as you know, but, coincidentally, we just tightened up the translations we did @ www.gaiaguys.net/Meier.Mondv6p70.htm this month, and that’s about as deep as they go with it, but if there was construction refuse up there when Semjase took Billy up for a look, then the Disclosure Project Briefing Document info can probably be taken at face value and there is a lot of info from whistleblower former insiders www.gaiaguys.net/DPBriefingDocument.zip It's not rumors. It's signed and sworn legal testimony by reputable military & NASA people. The US military seems to be gliding around in those huge black triangles a lot above the Earth. Why not the Moon too? www.gaiaguys.net/BlackTriangles.htm Ptaah mentioned on 19 June, 1993, in the 246th contact (verse 152) that there were 4 ET bases on the Moon in ancient times, and these ETs had no contact with the P’s, and only very seldom anything to do with ancient Earthlings, and no modern contacts. He also reiterated that the only ET bases which had been on Earth were the P’s. Cheers! Dyson | ||
Anday727 Member Post Number: 50 Registered: 02-2006 |
from Psycloud's post No.51: ...government agencies diliberately lie to the public about their finds on mars... Well, now it is clear to me why they do that.  Revolt"> I will only add those few words from: "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" by Eric Idle (Monty Python). Some things in life are bad They can really make you mad Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's gristle Don't grumble, give a whistle And this'll help things turn out for the best... And...always look on the bright side of life... Always look on the light side of life... Sorry dear friends, but I don't like to laugh alone... Salome, Dejan | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 676 Registered: 03-2004 |
(from www.gaiaguys.net/mars.htm) Sydney Morning Herald Dots on Mars may be all hot air or sign of life Richard Macey April 5, 2007 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/04/04/1175366325511.html (Images of the Mars caves from Northern Arizona University.) SCIENTISTS have spotted what look like caves on Mars, and say they could be sheltering life from the planet's harsh environment. The first caves detected beyond the Earth appear as seven mysterious black dots on pictures beamed back by NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter. Each as large as a football field, they may be openings into natural caverns below the Martian surface. (snip) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 761 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Dejan.... LOVE IT!!! THAT made me laugh into tears!! Your/the humor is best needed, here....so every now and than...  "A Spirit needs to laugh....at times...." Edward. | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hi Dyson, A big thank you for posting that news, this is very interesting indeed. This has been explored before as a theoretical possibility based on known geological sciences (Earthbound at the moment unfortunately). The next obvious step is to obtain higher resolution pictures (broad spectrum); of course it would be even better if we could send probes to explore these caves (if confirmed for sure). A NASA fund exists in order to help scientists/Engineers develop technology by encouraging them to “think outside of the box”, what came from this was a proposal and study back a number of years ago by two scientists to develop miniature robots for exploration of such cavern systems on Earth and indeed other planetary bodies within our solar system (using existing technology). A quote from this particular proposal states: “One of the projects that received Phase II funding earlier this year was a collaboration between Dr. Penelope Boston and Dr. Steven Dubowsky to develop "hopping microbots" capable of exploring hazardous terrain, including underground caves. If the project pans out, hopping microbots may some day be sent to search for life below the surface of Mars. “ http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1798&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 I wonder what else theses probes would find just below the surface of Mars!!!!! Take care and good luck Mike | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 682 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Mike, You write, “The next obvious step is to obtain higher resolution pictures…” Let me please draw your attention to the 500 page Disclosure Project Congressional Briefing Document @ www.gaiaguys.net/DPBriefingDocument.zip This is a very important document not generally known about for the same reason that the voluminous material from the Plejaren Federation is not generally known about. This stuff makes mincemeat out of sacred cows. (This and many other hard-to-find docs, all free @ www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm ) NASA is a huge criminal, (indeed literally “satanic”) organization. Those at the very top know a lot about what’s on Mars, not to mention our Earth’s Moon, and have entire deep black sections devoted to digitally removing any too-blatant evidence that offends against the ancient mendacious status quo. (But the Europeans are not quite so stupid.) Here are a few little excerpts about Mars, and I suggest that if you are interested, download the whole file and search for “Moon” to see what those brave whistleblowers - who were employed by NASA to “sanitize” their photos of anything ET - have to say in their sworn witness testimony. Don’t let CSETI’s stupidity detract from the DP’s validity. ------------------------------------- Helmut Lammer, Ph.D. Physicist, Space Research Institute, Department for Extraterrestrial Physics, Austria [Writing about the formations in the Cydonia region of Mars] “It is the author’s belief that the Viking data are not of sufficient resolution to permit the identification of possible mechanisms of the origin for these objects, although some results to date suggest that they may not be natural. Clearly these mysterious objects deserve further scrutiny by the forthcoming Mars missions. If one of these missions finds that the face on Mars, the pyramids and the other strange structures are indeed artificial, then the ‘unlikely’ Prior Colonization or Previous Technical Civilization hypotheses would provide a possible answer.” Deep insider “AH” MAJI Control is controlled by the Office of Naval Intelligence. It’s a top secrete collection group, like the Central Intelligence Agency and the NSA. In fact, the ONI is just like the CIA. It’s a top-secret organization within the Navy. It’s similar to the NSA and the CID. It’s all encrypted information. They have agents out in the field, just like the CIA, collecting information. It’s all very, very top-secret… Most of the craft operate on antigravity and electro-gravitic propulsion. We are just about at the conclusion state right now regarding antigravity. I would give it maybe about 15 years and we will have cars that will levitate using this type of technology. We’re doing it up at Area 51 right now. That’s some of the stuff that my buddy worked on up at Area 51 with Northrup, who lives now in Pahrump, Nevada. We’re flying anti-gravity vehicles up there and in Utah right now… For example, the information that we have managed to collect regarding the face on Mars, which I know for a fact is real, would have a great impact. I have another contact at NASA, JPL that I haven’t mentioned. I can’t mention too much about it because he is still working there. This person that I know is very high up in NASA. He said they know it’s a face. They know that it was carved by somebody other than us. In an imaging area, they know for a fact that the face on Mars is real and that it was not made by windstorms or trick of lighting or anything like that. They know for a fact that the face on Mars was made from an extraterrestrial race that came here to Earth about 45,000 years BC. … Testimony of Mr. Mark McCandlish, US Air Force December 2000 10 [or] 15 years ago, I was talking to Tom Bearden about scalar effects. One of the things that he said, just off the top of his head, was, “Have you ever wondered why the NASA budget has been cut back so severely? It’s because they’ve got all this other technology that is so much better, so much faster. They are so much better than rocket-propelled spaceships that take months, sometimes years, to get to the outer reaches of the solar system. Why would you put millions and millions of dollars [into] what [amounts to] a public works program for scientists? Why invest all that money when you have this classified system that’s used exclusively by the National Security Agency, the CIA, or Air Force Intelligence? It will go anywhere in the solar system in hours, compared to months or years. Why spend all that money on NASA when you’ve got something that will go there right now?” When people speculate that there [might] be manned bases on the back side of the moon or there might be bases on Mars, I can tell you that I am almost positive that that’s true. In fact, I am positive that it’s true. [Note from Dyson: the Plejaren currently seem to refute this, as well as other sensitive military matters] ------------- Mike, in my work, I’ve spent a lot of time staring at high resolution aerial photographs of illegal (and legal) logging here in my corner of Australia, so maybe I’m better qualified than most to know what forestry looks like from above. The bottom half of this area of Mars, (photo from the European Space Agency's Mars Express Orbiter) has been selectively cleared of this brown vegetation, and the valleys have been completely cleared.  http://asimov.esrin.esa.int:8766/queryIG.html?col=mmg&ht=0&qp=&qs=&qc=&pw=100% But these photographs are never of any interest to anybody because, as Ptaah said at the 370th contact, December 31st, 2004, 12.04 AM „ ... die Wahrheit ist nicht gefragt, sondern verpönt.“ (… the truth is not requested, rather, it is taboo.) HUNDREDS of very genuine and very reputable deep insider whistleblowers have provided corroborating sworn testimony that substantiates that NASA lies like a rug and nobody seems to know and nobody seems to care. Like with the Plejaren and the prophet … nobody seems to know and nobody seems to care. Salome, Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 684 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear fellow Earthlings, Before anybody asks about my above comment, "NASA is a huge criminal, (indeed literally “satanic”) organization." - ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE! Find the NASA/Illuminati DEEP IMPACT LOGO! (please scroll down www.gaiaguys.net/symbols.htm) This contest has been running since July, 2005, with NO winners! NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory also get mentioned on this page www.gaiaguys.net/BloodontheAltar.htm Salome, Dyson | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hello Dyson, It’s going to take me a while to go through and study that interesting material, many thanks for that information. I am with you on this one; I think we (general populace) place too much trust in NASA. I have read a number of books over the years (“Above Top Secret: The Worldwide UFO Cover-up” by Timothy Good. “Is ET here – No Politically but yes scientifically and theologically” by Robert Trundle PhD. “UFOs and the national security state” by Richard M. Dolan) these books (and other information) were a starter for me in which to seriously cast doubt about NASAs motives and intentions towards the extraterrestrial question. Thanks Dyson PS I am not ignorant to the fact that I have noticed that you have put a good deal of effort and time into replying to me, I do sincerely appreciate it very much. Although our viewpoints may differ on certain matters, I am glad I found this forum and new knowledge/ideas contained within it! | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 690 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Mike, Not at all, mate. I'm glad you found us too, and I'm happy to help if/when I can. It's my honor. Of course it's not JUST NASA who's crook. It's pretty much everybody, I'm sorry to say. Fraternally, Dyson | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 06-2006 |
"Of course it's not JUST NASA who's crook. It's pretty much everybody" - in the bad ol' USA, that is! | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1148 Registered: 12-1999 |
Of course Alan, it always everyone in the Bad ol' USA...that is a rather stupid statement | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 06-2006 |
Scott, Dyson was referring to USA organisations there, so was I, but for some reason you obviously didn't see that! The 'stupid statement' was on your part. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1149 Registered: 12-1999 |
So Alan, what is the emphasis on the Bad ol' USA, I know what Dyson was referring to...sometimes it is very perplexing to me that the US is always getting a bad rap, when practically every government agency throughout the world is corrupt. Some more some less, the thinking is pretty much the same...If it wasn't for the bad ol' USA, I don't think anyone would be talking about the Face on Mars to begin with..granted some country would eventually send up a probe, but it may as well have been the bad ol' USSR, which for sure wouldn't have shared it with the rest of the world during their times of social communist rule...I guess we can thank some other bad ol' country for developing the computer, programs and internet technology which is allowing for this discussion to take place to begin with...no country is excluded...Yes the US has caused many problems in the world, and probably will continue to do so for some time, but every person in every country needs to look at their government as well, because as I said before they all eat from the same trough.. | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 06-2006 |
Scott, Dyson was clearly referring only to organisations and not to people, and so was I - (Dyson) "Of course it's not JUST NASA who's crook. It's pretty much everybody" - (Alan) in the bad ol' USA, that is! Of course America is the badest of all the bad countries in the world, and is why I was totally right in labelling the USA as the Bad ol' USA. (not the US people) If you disagree with me on that, then please explain why the Plejarens distance themselve's ONLY from America?? There is nothing wrong with referring to the USA as the Bad ol' USA, because thats what it is. The badest (most corrupt) country in the world, and the country which will be singularly responsible for starting WW3 if it happens!! Again I was never referring to the US people as being bad, but you clearly thought that I was, when I wasn't. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1150 Registered: 12-1999 |
Thank you Alan, as you know, all organizations consist of people, when I hear the USA is the worst country in the world, it is not the country, but certain people who make up these organizations that cause the problems. The root of it is seeking and finding these people who are corrupt and don't deserve the light of day. I just don't like generalizations, when in reality it is certain groups of people who perpetuate their sick thinking onto everyone else by the use of force and subversion. Perhaps they find safe haven in the US, but they exist globally in my opinion. | ||
The_future Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2007 |
Who is to say Australia wouldn't be badder than the USA if it had a larger population and more wealth? You can already see China making steady progress with military expansion. Russia is also on the comeback trail. Badness isn't just restricted to the US. Pound for pound, Israel is probably the baddest country in the world. Or maybe Vatican City, the smallest nation state in the world. But even worse were the Giza people. So where do these generalizations get us? | ||
Alan Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 06-2006 |
Scott, I agree with most of what you say there, but at the end of the day it is up to the US citizens (responsibility) to get rid of these corrupt (government) people and organizations which operate within their country. It is not the responsibility of any organization or person living outside of the US. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 692 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, In the 234th contact of January 19th, 1990, Billy & Ptaah explain why the USA and Israel are "out in front" of all the rest for "bad". Scott, this is what the contact notes say again and again and again. The USA & Israel are the worst, and therefore the most dangerous to our planet’s future. The Plejaren pull no punches, and they generally blame the citizens. I'll try to do a little translation, but there is ample English language material about this already. And Alan, I was not excluding the rest of the world (particularly the 1st World and the English-speakers) when I said "everybody". It’s Earthlings in general, but the USA and Israel in particular. This is not just the Plejaren. This is independently verifiable. Salome, Dyson | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 228 Registered: 04-2006 |
SBulletin Nº34 makes emphasis that Russia will play a giant role in future world events, Ptaah & Billy agree that country will be a vital leading force pursuing and enacting peace. They got thru it the harder way, which is the best way to gain knowledge and wisdom.When the time is ripe, the russians will LEAD.Unlike today's american empire, which only pursues world dominance. ".......FIGU is helping the Russians because I am well acquainted with the fact that this land and its people will one day produce true peace for many nations. Indeed, this fact began turning into reality with Gorbachev's Glasnost and Perestroika and the abolition of communism. Even Edgar Cayce, the "Sleeping Prophet", has written the following words on this subject: "The world will gain greater hope from Russia's development. To this end, individuals and groups who have closer ties with Russia can achieve step-by-step changes and the ultimate finalization of regulatory terms for world dominion." So, at the end we will have to thank "ol' bad USSR...  | ||
The_future Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2007 |
In Bulletin 34, the comment about Russia is from a reader who is actually quoting Billy's original reference from Bulletin 1 of Russia being instrumental towards bringing peace. Bulletin 1 is from 1995. How do we know that "prophecy" from 12 years ago still holds today and into the future? Billy or Semjase once prophecised that US President Reagan would be the one to put the wheels into motion for WW3. But that didn't happen because, as Billy said, things changed. Putin wasn't on the political scene back in 1995. And he'll be out of office next year anyway. Who knows what type of leaders the Russian people will "elect" in the future? From the Henoch Prophecies: "...the new Russia will continue its long-standing conflict with China over Inner Mongolia, with the result that Russia will lose a portion of this territory to China." "Yet Russia will not rest and will attack Scandinavia and in doing so, embroil all of Europe..." "Yet Russia will not be satisfied with this action of war, as her will for expansion will be ravenous. And consequently, Russia will launch a military attack against Iran and Turkey and will conquer these two countries in bloody fighting, causing enormous destruction. In the Russian expansionist mentality will also be included the drive to gain control of the Middle Eastern oil deposits, as well as to gain control of the south eastern region of Europe. Therefore, she will also invade the Balkan and conquer these countries there in enormous battles, causing ruthless and devastating destruction with many deaths." "America and Russia will have the most terrible weapons of mass destruction at their disposal - a fact that is already case to a certain extent today - and will clash with violent force against each other at that time, whereby Canada will also be dragged into this conflict. The source of this conflict will substantiate the Russian attack on the American State of Alaska and against Canada..." Russia hardly sounds peace-bringing to me. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 697 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear The, The only reason that Oz (Hebrew for "force") is not the "baddest" is because we have such a small population and are so far from the action. I think we are the most covertly corrupt nation in the history of all the universes. Blood-drinking preditory baby-eating (incorporated as a non-profit company!) Freemason Satanists, who publicly identify themselves with 666 and an erect phallus successfully prosecute the former Young Australian of the Year for religious vilification?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? It wouldn't even SELL as FICTION, because it's too UNBELIEVABLE!!! Warcry of the Australian? “BAAAAAAAAAA!” :-/ Dyson | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 228 Registered: 03-2003 |
Let us hope they can deal with the problem involving Chechnya then. I take it you probably also know about Russia's EIT project in scalar weapons?, which could be as dangerous to the planet as the American HAARP. But that's not to say the Russians won't liberate us from the so called control of the NWO of the EU and AU. Let's hope the Russians don't eventually go down the same path as the Americans by using war to justify peace for another means. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1153 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please lets get back on the topic now, thanks | ||
Leann Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 08-2006 |
http://joshuacolwell.com/blog/index.php/2007/very-strange-mars-hole/ | ||
George Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi guy's - does anybody know if Billy took any pictures of those 3 mile high Pyramids on Mars during his visit recently. Those mentioned in contact 253. Also, could he move around freely and breathe air without use of the spacesuit while looking at Olympus Mons? | ||
Sirashwin Member Post Number: 208 Registered: 05-2007 |
Astronomers Monitor Asteroid To Pass Near Mars |
