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    Markc Member Post Number: 573 Registered: 06-2000 |
Hi Dave ; I don't agree that everyone should try to get the message out on TV and radio etc. unless you can do so with te effectiveness of Michael Horn or someone like that . You could do more harm than good by getting stuck without effective answers for the countering measures that you would face . Mark Mark Campbell | ||
Sirashwin Member Post Number: 194 Registered: 05-2007 |
Dear Someguy and Syn What you both say won't work in the long run as David said. Let's say they Plejarens one fine day come and just zap away all the bad world leaders ...... then there might be some peace and quite for some time. But what guarantee is there that there again won't be bad leaders and governments (or system). We as a civilization should get our act together and consciously work for a better tomorrow. The Plejarens can't take away our right 'to evolve by ourselves'; and if they help us they would be snatching it away from us. Just my 2 cents .... ashwin | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 263 Registered: 12-2004 |
Dear Someguy and Syn, We all on the forum feel or know your frustration maybe with various degrees, we all live on the same planet. There are many ways to deal with this frustration, going around and telling everyone about your discovery and “your” truth is not a solution. Would probably only increase the frustration because you would most probably not get much feedback, when forcing your views on others. Having such an advantage of knowing about Billy, one needs to put in the effort to learn and know what he is writing about and all the details within the case and not only that he exists and took a few pictures of beamships. Reading your posts it is obvious that you don’t know much about the case. And I don’t blame you, as most here on the English forum face, the barrier of language. So my advice, instead of missioning or trying to change the world, start with yourself. Start learning German for example and read what Billy wrote and teaches, maybe even start the Spirit Lessons. Start taking things seriously and work on yourself like try to connect to your inner self. There are many ways to do that, you just have to be bothered to do a bit more then what you have done so far. Maybe even start searching for the creational laws and directives and apply it to your life, which then people will come to you and ask you for information or inspiration. If you are someone that is worth looking up to, people will start to listen. But before you resolve your frustrations and any negativity people will not listen to you nor take you seriously. In the end it is not your or anyone’s responsibility not even your right to convince anyone of anything . People have to convince themselves. And by the way once Billy passes away the Plejarens will not contact anyone as they did with Billy for the next 800 years. So saying that they should do more is just desperation in finding a savior for our problems. And as history has proven many times, it won’t happen. Then again what is 800 years in the millions of years that we still have to evolve. Try to cool down and see things from a bigger perspective. Knowing that ETs exist won’t solve our war issues, it would probably only increase our wars on a planetary scale. So I will repeat again by you evolving your consciousness and becoming wiser, you are contributing in the evolution of the collective consciousness. Which has a much better result than telling people that we are not alone. And for peace you might consider finding out more about peace meditation if you don't already do it Enough said… good luck… Salome, Badr | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 03-2007 |
(Just some additional thoughts taken from Billy's writings that echo what Badr and Mark C have already said) O Dave: “It is hard to get the truth out to the masses since so many people are just blind and do not want to listen to reason.” Each human being must always be fully aware that there are consciousness-related differences between each human being. Consequently, no one can be exactly equal in intelligence to another. But this does not entitle anyone to see their fellow-human beings as blind and to classify them as a human being on a lower level. This entitlement also does not exist if fellow-human beings are even labouring under a religion or sect, because they are all the same human beings who are within the creative-natural laws of life and evolutional learning like all the others.* Someguy: “In my opinion, they need to start contacting all the believers more directly, they need to be more effective it seems, I cant help feel this sense of urgency, I just feel we need more than knowledge, it just seems like the right time to move on to the next phase I guess...<snip> I can’t help feel they need to start picking up the pace, find the people on earth who care and roll out a better plan...” Each human being’s prime concern shall be to pay his own attention on himself, i.e. to his personality, his character, his virtues, thoughts, feelings and actions, in order to align everything in such a way that all things are right, and not chase misleading goals which end in a belief in unreal things.* Someguy: “I was born into this world with this structure, I did not ask for it, I felt the suffering and want it to end...” Each human being must shape his life by creating events, so as to find in it love, happiness, joy, peace, harmony, balance and freedom.* *All excerpts taken from THE BASIC RULES OF MAN, by Billy Meier | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 264 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello everyone again, I guess it is worth posting this link again, as most people only realize things through repetition. In my opinion this is one of the most important articles published by FIGU, especially for new comers. http://us.figu.org/portal/AboutFIGU/Talkativeness/tabid/87/Default.aspx Salome, Badr | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 150 Registered: 05-2007 |
Markc, your right. It could backfire. | ||
Someguy Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2006 |
Hello Everyone, Thanks for your responses, I agree with much that has been said and perhaps it is what I needed to hear. Lately I am just feeling something has got to give. I guess the bottom line for me is they are free to roam the galaxy in beam ships and I(or we) am stuck on this prison planet, I know it is more of a complaint, but it does feel valid and I dont believe everything the plejarens say, I am not saying they lie but In my opinion I think anything is subject to change. I am not asking them to save us or anyone, we do need to save ourselves as earth humans , perhaps just lend us the tools to quicken the pace, to minimize their involvment. Know Thyself (kennen Sie Ihr Selbst) | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 265 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello everyone, After thinking about the issue a bit further I came to a conclusion about the people that tend to think that the Plejarens have not done enough or that they could do more. Be it intervention on earth or information given to us. People within this frame of mind on one hand lack the understanding and the knowledge of what it is that the Plejarens have done so far, and on the other hand they might even lack the understanding or knowledge what has been passed on to us by Billy himself and the difference between the two. I still didn’t have the chance to read 50% of what he has written and already I see and recognise how much the Plejarens and Billy have done for us. And as Ptaah mentioned on a recent contact dated 27th of April 07 that the information given to us by Billy will be enough for thousands of years of learning, Plus Ptaah also mentioned that Billy has by far exceeded their expectation of the amount of information that was to publish by him. Which is obviously to our advantage. And so only with the help of FIGU and others will his information be preserved for many generations to come. So really if you are able to read just 25% of the amount of information written you would notice that there is no real need for further ET intervention on earth, as the information given helps us and directs us to the fastest way to evolve. And since truth doesn’t have an expiry date we wouldn’t need it to be renewed by anyone, if we manage to keep it intact, but rather expand on it. Because only through reason, logic, wisdom, love and truth etc… will our planet become more comfortable place to live in and not through ETs coming from space and proving their existence. I don’t mean that the proof of human life existing outside our planet will have no impact at all, but rather that without reason, logic, wisdom, love and truth etc… we will not be able to achieve real peace and harmony on this planet. In short I advise such people to spend more time reading the information and thinking about the information then judging without knowing enough about the case. This advice is obviously related to the intervention of the Plejarens. This is not directed to anyone specific, but just a general advice to everyone that is in such a frame of mind. Salome, Badr | ||
Unluckyguy26 Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2007 |
I agree mark because its happening to me with the people that i would like to help(families and friends) but they dont wanna listen they say that i lost it and that i dont believe in god anymore tha ti believe in aliens and so many other stuff. I even post some videos on my profile and put some spiritual teachings in my blogs that just because of that lots of my friends dont even bother to visite my page anymore its like they think im trying to start a sect or something, and the informations are so joyful in a way that i cant picture myself sitting down and not finding at least one person outside of this forum who share the same point of vues, so far i havent found one  . All of you guys make sense when it comes to talking or try to get people to start thinking for themselves logicly. but do you think that im doing the wrong thing by posting it up my myspace page for example? because im thinking even if most of my friends dont agree to whats on my page, which is not private just for that reason anyone can access it and find the truth from there, well find their road track from there and go on their on quest and change everything that the knew and believed in like we all did. Like me i didnt know about Billy untill i found out about someone that is no longer associated with him although claimed that he is in contact still with the plajerans-pleiadians as he call them, but still feel that he had to put the case out there and from there i lead my own quest. So tell me what do you think about that if im doing something that might not be good for the mission. if not, (im not doing no commercial or anything of the sort cause im really interested in this case in all its aspects) could you guys or anyone who really want this to go foward stop by and start living comments or if you have a profile and have buletins about a lot of things related to the case so i can repost them? at least we might reach some people that would come to question things and go find out more by themselves so they can decide for themselves. www.myspace.com/26noah U26 with peace | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 266 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Luckyguy, How about move this discussion to... FIGU's Discussion Board » The Mission » Your experience in telling others about Billy, The Mission and Teachings http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5553.html?1197000085 Salome, Badr | ||
Adityasonakia Member Post Number: 137 Registered: 07-2007 |
Dear Someguy, Well actually they have given us the spiritual teachings. Try to dig in and see what other wonders they have done. They have actually lead us to a more peaceful path. Just imagine if they had not come only. Thanks to Billy and the plejaren people, you and me can change our rugged lifestyles and evolve. Think about it. Salome Aditya | ||
Someguy Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 12-2006 |
Hello Adity, Thanks for responding, I have actually read quite a bit of the information (obviously not all the material) and am working on learning to meditate, I do appreciate what they have done so far, dont get me wrong, I was just venting. Know Thyself (kennen Sie Ihr Selbst) | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 06-2007 |
Adityasonakia: What we win if we change and the great mass of people don't change nor want to change? As I perceive, each year that pass the world becomes worst. Maybe we have to touch the bottom. "we born to die and we die to born" "Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her" | ||
Adityasonakia Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 07-2007 |
Dear Incredible, Well I feel that we win evolution, understanding of the truth. Just think of it, you stand out of the crowd, because you know the truth. Salome Aditya | ||
Adityasonakia Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 07-2007 |
Dear Someguy, No, I never took you in a wrong way. I was just advising. We can evolve ourselves. Maybe others can't because they are not so open as us. We are more understanding than them. So we evolve. Salome Aditya | ||
Syn Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2007 |
regarding to my last post, and a few other comments about me, no i never force things on other people. they ask a few questions i let them know what i think thats it thast all a few other people asked where i got my resources and i tell them about figu. I just feel like....even though you have all the information....it feels like its not hitting the public fast enough. i guess you can say im scared to death about USA`s Tyrany and that i dont feel like going through a pointless war. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2007 |
HELLO INCREDIBLE, WARMEST GREETINGS TO ALL, We cannot lead/change anyone else who is not ready to change. We live by example to others. If our light shines bright (by our own evolution), then those who are ready will come to us to know the path we walk = and how we learned to get where we are going. Salome Let Our LOVE show in all actions, J_rod7 | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1372 Registered: 12-1999 |
Please get back to the topic heading ET Intervention on Earth-Thank You Scott-Moderator | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2007 |
WARMEST GREETINGS TO ALL, As Badr has already written in his post 264: >> I guess it is worth posting this link again, as most people only realize things through repetition. In my opinion this is one of the most important articles published by FIGU, especially for new comers. http://us.figu.org/portal/AboutFIGU/Talkativeness/tabid/87/Default.aspx << Please read this VERY important referenced article posted at us.figu.org. It will answer all questions regarding so-called "missionary work". Salome Let Our LOVE show in all actions, J_rod7 | ||
Thomas2008 New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2008 |
I don't know why people talk on this forum its a waste of time. I too recognise the truth but issues like this are insignificant to the mission are they not? We have learned what the ET's wished us to recognise therefore their part is done for now. We must as earth humans strive to carry the message forwards to the people. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 462 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi everyone. Just wanted to mention that I refound some stuff in various contact notes that I thought I knew but wanted to make sure of. It is in regards to World War 3 and ET intervention in that regard. According to Asket, there is no longer a probability/possibility of an all-encompassing nuclear war on Earth due to their intervention. That was done to avoid the catastrophe that could have occured and which could have reached far beyond Earth in its consequences. That is not to say that nuclear weapons will absolutely not be used possibly in the future, but the nearly complete destruction due to a fully global nuclear war has been averted some time ago. This was also verified by Semjase in later contact notes. I just thought that I would post some cheerful news in spite of the fact that we on Earth still have a long, hard road ahead of us... | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2007 |
Do you mean the beautiful Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte, Gespräch, Bloche 1? I always thought the aversion done by the Timmers was in regards to nuetrino's (TELONIN) see "Existentes Leben im Universum" von Billy pages (Seiten) 280-282, which oddly I was surprised that many countries are now playing around with again trying to fiqure out broken symmetry (see Scientific American magazine Feb 2008 entitled "the future of Physicics")if it helps with genetics or a possible energy source good but who knows... I guess I thought the looming nuclear war has never been fully averted but instead was up to us to change our thinking in time (population reductions, multinational peace keeping troop, die Friedensmeditation) Corey | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1067 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Thomas.... Your NEWS does sound quite refreshing and of deliverance! Well, Ptaah made very clear, that if MAN does not Change his ways of being, and his Thoughts towards his fellow human beings, even....WW4, WW5....etc, can still manifest in our coming future! Thus, the World War Scenarios, STILL...Overshadows...our Future to be! I truly do not think that the Plejarans have 'erased' the World War Scenarios possibility, as you mentioned. [perhaps, only 'minimizing' it through Billy diffusing it to the public; the out comes of such Wars] It is in the hands of MAN (of Earth), and NOT the Plejarans! Edward. |
