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Mehraein62
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 07:44 pm: | 
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Edward,
Good comment,
but some time i think about one question that i put in the forum and did not get the clear response. this is:
_If under the creation law and order every world is responsible for its evolution and any influence , intervene, help , or even guidance IS BAN , how Giza Intels could be here to make all their actions?! bring or influence , divert and falsified religions and so on by them or other ET Races?!
How even Jmmanuel could come? or now the Plejarans?!
you dont think somethings simply did not be said or hidden of the earthling Man eyes?
Wish You Luck
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Edward
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Post Number: 1071
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 08:15 am: |
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Hi Mehraein....
Well, the Giza Intelligence(as others in the past)....just Broke every
CODE.....in the book, so to speak. They were just fractions with Criminal
elements within them. Thus, what else can One expect from such Criminals as
the Giza Boys, and others alike?
THEY, just to do not respect and live in accordance to Creational Laws.
Thus, the Answer..upon the Malicious actions of the Giza Boys, which
indeed..by the Plejaran's 'indirect' intervention, so to speak, via,
Jmmanuel...and even the True Prophet lineage...was an answer to them.
Diffusing the True Spiritual Teachings, and not the False and Distorted Lies,
as the Giza Boys intended to 'brainwash' the humans with.
And that the Plejarans and the Federation DID intervened to capture and ban
the Giza Boys and all relayed, was due to the advice of the Andromeda Council,
which the Plejarans proposed...in to what steps they should take and execute.
As you may know, the criminals types even goes way before the Giza
Boys...influenced the human beings of Earth. So, there is a long pre-history
to this all.
So, further, when it comes down to our Earthly Affairs, if you will: WE of
Earth have to Solve our Quarrels by ourselves. Because: it is OUR Evolution;
even though there may have been Negative influence put upon us in the past, by
the Giza Boys or others. And with the Positive Influence of the Plejarans....
Through...Billy, we can once again, pick up the grain, to a much more fruitful
Future....to come.
Thus: it is Man's Duty or Obligations, if you will...to bring Humanity back to
it's Equilibrium.
Edward. |
Mehraein62
Member
Post Number: 121
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 05:11 pm: |
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Edward,
Thank you so much,
Ya , I think your explanation is reasonable. It can work in some how.
Wish You Luck
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2onepaw
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 10:37 pm: |
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I really think that our salvation is our own, our destiny in the realm of the universe, is reflected by our actions, I believe that we are inherently good and good will prevail. Then I watch the news and I start to doubt. There is good, its here in all of us. We just need to bring it out in others. |
Socrates
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 05:07 pm: |
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Hello again,
I will get straight into my observations and questions. Mankind on Earth has had a rough past that has been forgotten by the average Earth man through the control of knowledge by power-hungry fiends who's eyes glow with materialism and primal energy. However, one must ask why it is that we have come to this point? We could not have spontaneously appeared out of nowhere and what about those strange artifacts found all over the world dating back billions of years hinting a level of technology at which we are currently at, or perhaps beyond? So when one comes across the time-line and story presented to Billy by the Plejarens one then finds a deeper logic with our progression over time than what is presented to us with our current understandings in science. However, this is not my point. My point is that we on Earth are a stew-pot of many races of mankind. We have a long history filled with many wars and much suffering as well as peace. And now we face a time, separated by our family of man in the cosmos and we must ask ourselves are we to be the ones who must pay for our ancestors mistakes?
Why is it that they run like cowards and do not justify that which they have done wrong, embellishing in their own wealth of knowledge while we starve each other both spiritually and physically? They say we must help ourselves, but have you ever said to a baby to stand up and get a job to make some money or else you will kick it out of the house? Perhaps I am being too over-dramatic, but this is how I feel the spiritual knowledge of man is at with the current age.
They have intervened throughout our entire history and now when we are at the point of total chaos within society they merely just observe us, not taking responsibility for their actions. It is BS I say. Complete and utter irresponsibility and BS from whatever counsel they belong to that makes the rules of contact. Why have they not respected the rights of each individual being of Creation at all levels of existence? I understand that Billy was to be put in charge to disseminate the truth to us and to teach those who sought truth. (But have they not considered the magnitude of corruption that exists on Earth? Or perhaps is it the idea that a single flame set to a bushel in a dry forest will set it ablaze that has kept them from doing more than they feel they have to) This very act by the Plejarens has broken those rules which they have previously enacted upon mankind, even if it was an agreement over many years ago. I feel that there are some extraterrestrials who want to help us and want to intervene, yet are *so-said* to be bounded by the silly rules of man and miraculously they can chose when they want to help us out and when not to. This is not a time for rules nor senseless restrictions, this is a time for justice and spiritual growth.
I am wondering why it is that everyone depends so heavily on billy's teachings and restating them in the exact words instead of finding the applications that are explained with them and learning the truths for yourselves and thus exploring these truths and testing them out for yourselves. I am sure that what Billy's teachings offer is only the tip of the iceberg and that there is much to be discovered if only we became observers of both the inner and the outer worlds. Words can never replace the full experience of truth and so I wonder why it is that nearly everyone here repeats billy word for word? I understand that many of his teachings cannot be simplified anymore, but at least they can be expanded upon or at least brought under a new light of understanding/perspective.
Some of you may remember me from a while ago about my passioned writings about what Billy's Beliefs were about Indigos and I must say that the whole thing is a fraud after further investigation. The person who claimed that they were Semjase was of course a fraud. I was deceived by their words of wisdom and my wanting to be something which I am not in order to satisfy the empty space of knowledge about my past and my purpose here. There are many people who you would consider kind and friendly at the face value, but whom have a deeper and dark side within them that controls those weaker of will as well as of knowledge of self. I am still young and I am capable of mistakes, just as any other. It is through these mistakes they we learn and evolve as the creation further refines itself.
Peace by Wisdom
Socrates, I did a slight bit of editing-Scott |
Markc
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Post Number: 605
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 11:29 pm: |
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Hi Socrates ;
Your words here are honest , by what concerns you , and by questions that hold you in their grasp , in reference to the presumed responsibility of the Plejaren . You make assumptions based on what you read here on the forum regarding dependence on the teachings , and so on .It's Ok to speak your mind , express doubt if something really bothers you . I ask you , since I am an earthman , as you are , do I have a responsibility towards you , to explain everything to it's finest detail , until your doubts are quieted ? I say that I don't , because , anything I might say to you will only be half heard , much less understood or believed .
The Point : If you are inclined to learn , then stick around , read , converse , and be among like minded thinkers . By now , when attackers and detractors come around , many of us have evolved in the sense of coexisting here on this forum , and easily ignore the barking and yapping that used to concern us before .
So , your issues are not overbearing or challenging to someone like me . I'm pretty sure that since you are here , that you will come to understand more as you visit . Plejaren are not our parents , and their sense of obligation toward us is not mandatory by anyone or anything but themselves . Therefore , their "obligation" is not manageable by you or subject to your criticism , in reality . You either appreciate their effort , or easily ignore the whole matter , just like 99% of the earth's population does .
Cheers , MC
Mark Campbell
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:44 am: |
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Socrates: “And now we face a time, separated by our family of man in the cosmos and we must ask ourselves are we to be the ones who must pay for our ancestors’ mistakes?”
We are our ancestors. Although there is no karmic debt to pay, per se, there is the lesson of cause and effect which must be learned. Every action has its’ consequence. If your spirit animated a personality centuries ago that did things which affect today, it is important that your spirit animate another personality today to observe what those consequences are. This is how the spirit evolves. If you overprotect a child from falling down and scraping their knee, they will not fully understand about gravity.
Socrates: “Why is it that they run like cowards and do not justify that which they have done wrong, embellishing in their own wealth of knowledge while we starve each other both spiritually and physically?”
To me, the very fact that they came back to help shows that they care. Even at the risk of personal injury. Many aspects of Earth’s vibrations hold potential harms for them and many willingly sacrificed years out of their own life to assist mankind here.
Socrates: “I am wondering why it is that everyone depends so heavily on billy's teachings and restating them in the exact words instead of finding the applications that are explained with them and learning the truths for yourselves and thus exploring these truths and testing them out for yourselves.”
Both must occur. They are not mutually exclusive. But the original words are important to convey the original intent. This is true anywhere and everywhere you go if you want to have effective communication.
Regards
Bob |
Corey
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 03:09 pm: |
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Socrates from what I can gather the Plejaren have considered us a special case and intervened on a voluntary basis way more then was even originally planned, while still being able to do so within the confines of their directives.
Considering our volatile and intersting history, and considering our alternatives, at least we have are fortunate to have a chance to relearn how to search for the truth ourselves and relearn how to live our lives in accordance with the laws and commandments of Creation.
viewed objectivly, studying Billy's teachings heavily doesn't mean a reiterrance of overrelyance in any way if it helps one evolve properly. It can be viewed as a breath of fresh air.
And like Mark said, it's really up to you to consider for yourself the finer details.
Corey |
Kingman
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:15 pm: |
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Socrates,
Free will is also an answer to your question regarding our ancestors mistakes. While our forefathers were lead astray by various ET leaders, earth humans chose to continue along the false paths that brought us to our current state.
The Plejaren had pre-planned their timed departure from the beginning, so to call them cowards for leaving doesn't apply to their action. Also, your analogy of making a baby work or move out as an example of the Plejaren making us unfairly having to earn our knowledge is nowhere near applicable. They are not our babysitters. Our technical knowledge is quite mature, yet poorly used. While our spiritual knowledge is much lower, we are not infants in the sense of the spiritual nature. Our stagnation from the false teachings keeps us in the pre-adolescence of knowing. Notice the Plejaren have purposely focused on helping in greater quantities in the spiritual realm, than what they allow us to discover from their technical supremecy.
Even easier said...."give a man a fish and he eats once. Teach a man to fish and he feeds himself for a lifetime." The Plejaren have helped Billy to fish for men and now it is up to us as we learn what the prophets have already brought, time and time again.
It's difficult to understand your complaints when you mention that you are still a young person. Through Billy and the Plejaren, you are aware of the truth and have the rest of your life to discover greater things our ancestors couldn't even dream about.
Your dissatisfactions are also answered quite well by the other posts.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 07:30 am: |
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I can feel the pain of Socrates as I am digesting the teachings and taking upon myself the responsibility for my own life actions and seeing the earth from the Plejarens perspective. The truth has a way of bringing a persons perceptions of importance from a Master of the Universe to a planet of renegades and convicts.
It seems a little unfair that we are left to sort out the mess of the rejects of the Universal societies. Even leaving some of their own castoffs living under Giza to weave their webs of evil upon an already abused, immature and mislead bunch of children that we are.
Don't get me wrong, I love the information and knowledge and truth that has come from the contacts, I guess I concur with Billy as he expressed his feelings during his conversations with Semjase when he referred to himself and all of us as the Earth worms, down here scratching around stuck in the mud and crud.
It is difficult to hear how well they have it as we struggle to survive down here and cope with the level of ignorance and deception that is just off the charts of when referring to the consciousness of average person.
As I come to terms with all of it I must focus on what it is that I am here to do and not allow the negativity of this place pull me in. It's a daily decision to create an new world within myself first so that I can effect the world I sometimes reluctantly call home because of all that is going on that I disagree with.
I think that we should find each other and try to build a support system of real relationships between people of like purpose and clarity of goals for themselves and for the world. What do we have to fear anyway right, we live forever and if we screw-up we just try again.
So lets quit trying to carry the world on our shoulders alone, I for one am tired of going it alone and would appreciate less analytical and more brotherhood. We are in this mess together so lets work on it together....
Matt |
Socrates
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 09:03 am: |
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Kingman, Markc, Phi_Spiral, Corey,
What you all say is true. Sometimes all one needs is a few words to see from a different perspective to see the truth of the situation.
Peace by wisdom |
Barbarian216
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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Hi Socrates,
I've read your statements and to be honest, you have valid points regarding the Plejarens past and current conduct. Don't be discouraged by others who seem to explain away your view points by their own prospectives.
There are many paths to the truth, but each must first become aware of his/her un-egolistic self.
You have a challenging mind that is awakening and I'll be more than happy to be your associate in this endeavor.
In the past when the Lyrians were plundering the universe, Nokodemion came out of the purely spiritual ether state and into the physical form to lead his andoriods and associates to correct his people's wrongs. Some where banished, made sterile and kept longer to prevent reincarnation.
Here you have the most highly developed entity(known so far), higher than the Pleijarens themselves directly intervening to correct the wrongs of his people.
So yes, Socrates has a valid reason to question their current motives in this matter. The Pleijarens admit that "they don't know all the answers".
Also, I forgot where, but it did mention something about being active in your actions. Sitting around and not addressing the problem is just as bad as creating it. Therefore if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
The Pleijarens had over 50,000 years of peaceful existence on their safe tucked away location to develope their current highly evolved state. Did they actually intervened to help earth humans while other ET's forced themselves on us in times past?
Some would say, yeah they sent "impulses" and assigned a prophet to "guide" mankind, because humans have the "will" to determine his future.
Yet, they now expect us to solve our problems that was created mainly from more advanced races including altering DNA to fight their wars?
I think that because the Pleijarens are in the last stages of physical form and about to evolve into the same state of the High Council, they are treading their involvement with Earth humans very lightly.
I think they are also being "tested" by higher intelligences to see if indeed they are to evolve to that state with earth humans as part of the subject matter.
I know this will lead to more questions than it really answers, but that is what this forum is about, yes?
Okay guys/gals, pick your number and stand in line, because now its "party time".  just being human----we all need some laughter---to verify our youthfulness in this most chaotic world environment! |
Redbeard
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 02:01 pm: |
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Well said Barbarian, well said |
Corey
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 03:32 am: |
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At least as a result of Pleraren/Timmer intervention our own Terran evolvement can one day be similiar/high as the Pleraren's is presently as a result of effort put into studying Billy's material. In comparison to the Bafath's idea of enslavement for us all, that sounds good to me.
I liked Mark's comment on speaking your mind which has brought up the topic of unity. A good idea for many of us who are probably in solitude learning to understand these teachings in our own way in our daily lives.
I do agree I don't think so the Pleraren could have evolved much further without intervening here on Erde in the ways they have but maybe one day they can be our high council.
Furthermore I understand how Socrates you feel sometimes, yet I don't think we can fully grasp their intervention here entirely until the time period in the future when we have raised our evolvement to the point where it is more graspable for us. The expansion of time in between then is long, covering so many lifetimes, and so many mistakes, yet at least we can go a different route this time and one day hopefully we can know true peace.
this has really turned out a good discussion huh?
Corey |
Socrates
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 04:20 pm: |
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I needed some time to think about this more deeply before I gave an answer to the posts. The points Barbarian brought up are very good as well as all the those posted by everyone.
There is not just one person responsible for our current situation, but the actions of many. The beginning of all actions exist with the beginning of creation for it is what spawns the logical progression of our existence and of our choices to further bring us into a higher state of existence as well as the creation itself.
One must realize that the situation we are in now is the result of the actions of each individual person's choice in the past whether they are aware of it or not. And so realize as well that this situation will pass with time and so will there begin another which we shall be in by our choices.
Now the question as to whether it is fair that we suffer while the Plejarens exist peacefully is a matter of realizing what suffering is.
I've dealt heavily with suffering my entire life and I know of it well. Suffering is merely the result of an idea created for the purpose of evolution of oneself. Pain for example only exists in the mind. We create it to be real. But for what purpose? Well pain serves as a tool for our survival in this state of consciousness, but one might ask why must we survive in this state of consciousness? Well it is because it is in this state that we can further grow in knowledge and wisdom of the creation. It is in this state that we have the illusion bestowed upon us in order that we may one day cast aside the illusion after we contain within us our own knowledge of the original creation. You can see it almost like the passing of DNA from Parent to offspring. The offspring is what keeps the memory of the parent's experiences alive this passing of information is what allows for our existence to be infinite in nature. This is however, just my current perspective and I may be entirely wrong. Test the knowledge for yourself that Billy has to offer and you will see extraordinary things (if you are ready)...that I do promise.
So perhaps the Plejarens don't want to interfere because they feel they may mess with our learning process, because like it was mentioned above, we could have changed things around at any point, but we haven't and so we have created this reality for ourselves just as the Plejarens have for themselves.
But then one will bring up the argument that we didn't know any better because of our disillusioned ancestors....well, we were our ancestors and we were the one's who decided our own fate. Whether we want to accept responsibility or not. The Plejarens have filled in their part of debt by teaching Billy's spirit in each incarnation wisdom to spread to others. They have done as much as is needed and nothing more should suffice. However, they have done even more and have supposedly disarmed many nukes all around the world from being fired so that in the event of war the choice of one will not bring harm to Earth and the Universe and so that we may grow up and become one with our brothers.
In my last post I let my emotions get the better of me and in a blind fury I scribbled down my ideas without thinking them through and I knew it was unwise, but I did so anyway. But perhaps through this discussion I have given someone indirectly a better understanding of themselves.
Peace by wisdom. |
Barbarian216
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:05 am: |
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It would be interesting to access the memory banks and find out the true "intent" of these impulses regarding mating with earth humans to "improve" the status of mankind.
Example: did these ET's actually have good intentions when creating "Adam" and "Eve", or was lust a motivating factor? It may sound harsh, but considering what they did to mankind, its a mild assessment.
Another factor one must consider regarding intervention, are the Pleijarens the only ones that can allow contact with earth humans? The contact notes mentioned that another ET race was scheduled to make contact in 2000, but they were persuaded not to by the Pleijarens.
Even Paath mentioned that although the Bafath was removed in 1978?, (I think), their established evil networks will still have influences for some years. Why not get rid of all the evil ones, so mankind can have a fighting chance to become spiritual advanced?
Maybe the Pleijarens should access the memory banks directly to really "experience" what's it like to be manipulated, subjected to enslavement, raped, and all the bad things done to earth humans, then make an honest assesment in determining what type of "intervention" is appropriate.
I don't think they can handle such "barbaric" acts done by their ancestors to us. If they won't intervene, then give us the tools to do so.
Billy mentions the possibilty of WWIII in Nov 2008, 2010. Are we supposed to plan our future by participating in the monthly peace meditation and spiritual teaching of Billy to prevent this from happening? Maybe if we have a few hundred years, that may seem reasonable.
To me, it sounds like a long shot next to impossible. |
Syn
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 06:55 am: |
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@barbarian, very good point
how can the ps exdpect to act on thinking they know what it feels like to be raped, ridiculed, enslavement, etc. Chances are they never went through it. Maybe if they would have then they would have speed things up, because seriously if WW3 started im leaving north america thats final. I'm not risking my life for some stupid war that shouldnt have happened in the first place. You are right the ps wouldnt be able to handle the barbaric acts we do so we have to wait another 800 or so just for money to stop... i say eff that. I hate money and so many people do. The majority against money to the rest of the world...why dont we just get and say, why dont we do an uprising maybe well get the point across. There is SO MANY people that has lives destroyed over pieces of paper, or numbers on a screen. I lost 47000 dollars by a bank that simply deleted my account. And what i did, nothing because my 6 different lawyers advised me its my word against theirs. That alone should frusterate alot of people. But some good came out of it. I have my money in a locked and secure safe so when i need it its there without bank interest or crap like that. the point is still why should a life be controlled by a piece of paper??i dont think the ps fully understand our pain of what we have to go through!!!!
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Pledja
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:07 am: |
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From my own observations. The plejaren's intervention here on earth have remained "neutral" which is the correct way.I think they have done a great job! We also must take in mind that "We" have actively been involved in earths history but it is up to every single human being to figure this out.Im gonna run for president *Humor* |
Socrates
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 05:26 pm: |
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Barbarian, did you listen to the protocols and the prophecy tape? If not they Plejarens explained that through all this upcoming wars that mankind is to unite by tossing aside their old religions and seeing each other as brothers. How exactly it is so I do not know, but they say we will find peace with the creational laws. Either this is some kind of massive lie created to manipulate us or it is the truth.
It does not matter to me because I know for a fact that we will overcome our old beliefs and begin anew. I've thought it over and it makes complete and logical sense to me, however you must make this conclusion on your own. I won't involve myself with these wars because I have no need to at least not at the moment, I will most likely be in the jungles of South America or along the mountains of Switzerland/Austria. |
Pledja
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 04:21 am: |
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"I will most likely be in the jungles of South America or along the mountains of Switzerland/Austria."
Sounds very interesting, i would love to experience the wildlife one day.
If WW3 happed i find it to be neither good nor bad.The effects would be neutral sure it will have some serious affects on our world but this would be an experience we could learn from which makes it positive in the long run.If you were to fight the same person 3 times you soon realize theres really nothing to prove.I for one find this to be a very interesting time in human history, We have the choice to step up and fix what we allowed in the past but we also have the choice to reject all responsibility and stay dependent on outside help like the plejaren who have already been through what we are going through,The plejaren have remained loyal to us earth people and havent gave up on us, which im sure the average person would have long ago.Lets really think about this topic of plejaren intervening here "physically".If the plejaren where to physically come here publicly and try to show us the right way and correct "our" mistakes they would for one be considered "Fallen angels" by cult relegious believers.I talk to many relgious followers "God" couldn't convince them he doesnt exist as he is being portrayed.The way relegions work is that they are built on assumptions which always leaves room for making assumptions, Faith is another Block which keeps many people blind. Faith is the glue that holds this ideological System together.Also, just as in Ancient times many people would "worship" them.All responsibility would be thrown on the plejaren who are only human just like us who also possibly could make mistakes.New relegions would be started from this. Most likely we would be making the same mistakes.Im sure the plejaren have already caculated these possibilities and have chosen not to make the same mistakes which would cause there evolution to become stagnated.
Pledja |
Corey
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 05:32 am: |
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a catastrophic war still doesn't have to happen, we can each continue to do our effective share by changing the world inside us, taking our direct small part in conciousnessrevolution (Bewusstseinsrevolution) leading us further into personal experience in understanding Billy's teachings that comes to us as a direct result of ET intervention on Earth, and for many of us forum users this requires us to keep learning German so we can continue our journey so to speak.
Corey |
Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:03 pm: |
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(note: I have not read every word in these archives to the fullest extent, but what I have read so far is enough to show me that many people on this forum seem to be making a glaring mistake in their approach to learning and the truth)
Consulting Billy Meier and the texts he has written, the contact notes, etc. for all of one's answers, to the point of refusing to consider 'external' sources of information seems a rather silly way to glean any true learning. In fact, such a narrow-minded approach indicates that one has not even reached a state of true open-mindedness and willingness to pursue one's own evolution and learning.
Consulting Billy, his texts, or (by proxy) the Plejaren as 'the only source of truth' or even some kind of 'absolute' source for the truth... doesn't even really seem in line with what Billy himself advises the individual to do.
Our learning and evolution is in our own hands. We each bear individual responsibility for reaching our highest state of evolution and pushing that boundary higher, expanding ourselves through continued learning and evolution. This is not accomplished by simply falling into the same thought-pattern of the very religious sects one is so eager to distinguish oneself from.
Simply from observing the conversations that take place on this forum, isn't it obvious why an advanced race like the Plejaren would not wish to be openly in contact with Earthlings at this point in time? There is too much ready willingness in the people of Earth today to submit themselves to blind faith, to belief -- and in so doing, they submit themselves to the will of another human, to be misled, to be manipulated, lied to, etc.
Always, one must be questioning, verifying things within their own self, seeking the truth. The moment one accepts anything based on the word of another, 'because they said so', instead of because one has thought about it, investigated the matter thoroughly, and come to a personal decision as to the veracity of the claim... as soon as one makes that choice to 'believe' in what another has said, one has made the choice to open their self to manipulation, to lies, to distortions of the real truth, etc.
This readiness to believe, or to disbelieve as the case may be, because one's 'guru' or established, accepted 'teacher' does or does not endorse something is apparent even among people on this forum. So if it is clear that many of those who project that they are open-minded, free-thinking individuals still fall prey to belief, to faith, etc. then it is clear exactly why the Plejaren will not involve themselves openly with our affairs, nor take what we would ordinarily consider 'direct action' to interfere with events we, the Earthlings, set in motion.
This has grown longer than I intended, and still it could go on longer, as more related matters come to the forefront of my mind. However, it is not my habit to post on these forums, nor do I intend to make it such. To end simply; I would not see Billy, his writings, the Plejaren, etc. treated as a bible, a one-stop shop for all of one's answers, etc. -- rather, I would see these materials treated as another source for information, to be cross-referenced with other sources, thought about within oneself, compared to one's experiences and observations, etc.
- Gaia |
Scott
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Post Number: 1442
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 07:43 pm: |
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Hello Gaia,
Could you please site other "external" sources of information which you consider to be truthful? As you yourself indicated you have not read the archives to the fullest extent, which leads me to ask what else have you read concerning Billy and the Plejarens? Perhaps members of this forum or people who have studied this case for many years have already gleaned what they could from other sources and have concluded this is closer to the truth as it is presented. It seems at this point in our evolution as we emerge from the age of belief to the age of knowledge, we may encounter some of these truths for ourselves...
Regards
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