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Pudd
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My fellow members;

Since the Meier case material,reaching a level of understanding I never thought possible has moved me towards harmony.
Billy never mentions 08,(but rather 10),however these years of fulfillment could never be accurate.
The exact language word for word,now being used to get it on with Iran.
Again my concerns about 08 intensify,cause & effect will govern.
I long for peace,freedom,love,harmony.Pudd
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Edward
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sirashwin......


I once mentioned the Turkish and Kurd relationship, here, if my memory serves
me well(or at Pl'sRReal?). This was in the relation to the USA invading Iraq.
And that the both mentioned would indeed have part in some later future war
scenario. And because, the USA had a relationship with Turkey, in the
utilization of their military (Air Force) bases, to launch further attacks on
Iraq, and which of course, had to fly over Kurdish border grounds, to the
frustration of the mentioned.

Thus, what I thought in the beginning of the war against Iraq, has now come
into realization! And may even take greater war like proportions, alas.

The Kurdish people would still like an acknowledgement of Kurdistan, and where
they can live in their own land...without having to wander through the hills
and mountain regions. Many Kurds have taken the Turkish identity, in which
they try to construct a decent life for themselves, without any wars of any
kinds.

I have known Kurds, you should not call Turkish; and I have known Turks whom
One must not call Kurds. But, than again, I know Kurds whom do not mind you
identify them as Turkish. So, it all depends on what adaptation the individual
has acknowledged, and accepted.

Both are very kind people. But, alas, they do not always see - eye to eye -.

As far as I know from the past: the population of the Kurds is estimated of
some 25-35 million...whom are scattered over a number of countries. And yet, a
population of 25-35 million people do not have their own Father Land! Does
make One think!?

That is why, the PKK are at war with Turkey.

And if the Turkish government get their way: this will indeed...add fuel to
the fire(and contribute to the World War Three scenario, possibly)! And what I
thought, in the beginning...would become reality, alas...to say, again.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 938
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Pudd....

You understand it quite well!

The years mentioned are the - most possible -, for the World War Three
scenario to become fulfilled; but than, the Prophecy does not per se...have to
become a Prediction. Which we all Strive, it to not come into reality, of course.

But, as I mentioned in my previous posting concerning the Turkish clashing
with the Kurds(PKK), this does bring us all into jeopardy. But, again: a
Prophecy does NOT have to become a Prediction(if the concerning leaderships
utilize their Common Sense, Logic and Reason!).


Edward.
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Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some recent positive developments:

WWIII on hold?
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=11899

Thanks to all of you (FIGU, M. Horn, D. Devine, etc ...) who raised awereness on the prophecies. So far it has not be in vain. Also all those participating in the peace meditation.

Let`s continue... We can then learn German, progress, etc...
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Incredible
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If pakistan fall in the hands of the fanatic islamics, the WW3 would begin.

Pakistan have nuclear missiles.

I think that in the long run pakistan will fall in the hands of a fundamentalist islamic.

Musharraf is not eternal and if he dies there is a 95% that a fundamentalist have the government.
"we born to die and we die to born"

"Dont take the life seriously, after all you wont go out alive from her"
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Edward
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Post Number: 946
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 04:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Incredible.....

Very perceptive of you: Pakistan does indeed have 'Nuclear Missiles'. And it
is indeed World War Three sensitive!

Well, Mr. Bolton mentioned this week that he would still rather have Mr.
Musharraf in power than his opponent Mrs. Bhutto!

WHY?

Because Mr. Musharraf has the capabilities and abilities to Control the/his
Army Forces in a logistical manner, as it should. And Mrs. Bhutto: in the
contrary!

So, Mr. Bolton would favor Mr. Musharraf, without hesitation what so ever.

But still, Mr. Musharraf has to be very cautious!

We all know what happened to the "US Allies" by the names of - Osama Ben
Laden and Saddam Hussein -! Not!?

If Musharraf does not watch out: the SAME scenario will apply to him as the
two mentioned above!

If the CIA/Skull And Bones/US government have enough of Mr. Musharraf, and
to them he becomes a thorn in the side: surely he will be toppled from
his power, and THEY will conjure up a "Tall Tale", to justify their actions! Just as
THEY did to Osama Ben Laden and Saddam Hussein!

Thus, it is all just a - Use and Abuse and than Eliminate - executioning, for OWN
Gain of Selfish Greedy Power. And at the same time Evoking the World War
Three World Fire,...at our expenses(and lives)!

Truly: The Way Of The BEAST! The Anti-LOGOS...THEY ARE!


Edward.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good Article:

Washington Stirs a Witch's Brew in Pakistan

http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis92.html

And remember, if you want the best possible chance of stopping World War 3, vote for Ron Paul:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Foreword to Ron Paul’s new book: A Foreign Policy of Freedom: ‘Peace, Commerce, Honest Friendship’:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/ron-paul-pf.html
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Sirashwin
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings to All

I am just a novice in trying to truly comprehend the world political scenario. Is the current NIE's report on Iran to have had stopped its attempt to create a nuclear bomb back in 2003, good news? I feel this might help ease tensions and cause Mr.Bush's propaganda against loose steam. Or would it on the contrary prove dangerous, because as Mr.Bush seems to be adamant on not changing his stance on Iran; the report might give Russia and China enough international leverage to oppose the US, and thus if US does indeed attack Iran then Russia and China would destroy Israel as Billy said ??

Salome
ashwin
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Ashwin,

The world political situation is a VERY COMPLICATED topic. So this is best to take in small bites, until one understands the "Big Picture". The Big Picture is not even known to any one person, in total. Therefore, there will be various opinions, from different perspectives.

First, however, it is necessary to be clear on the difference between a Prediction and a Prophecy. This is needed to understand the meaning of future events expressed by Billy or the Plejarens.

A Prediction is an expression of POSSIBILITIES. Possible events are subject to change, depending on different decisions or circumstances which are a result of our exercising FREE WILL.

A Prophecy, on the other hand, is an event or occurrence which is KNOWN that WILL become true at some certain time-frame in the future.

A "small" part of the Big Picture regards the situation with Iran. This is still very much a "hot potato" for the US, for Israel, and for the rest of the world. Us Intelligence believes that Iran will have adequate material to produce nuclear warheads by 2010. Israeli Intelligence believes this will be by 2009. Israel is in a perilous position, as Iran has sworn to "wipe them off the map". Though Israel has never openly admitted to this, it is known that Israel already possesses a ready stock of deliverable nuclear weapons. She WILL defend herself, even if it must be done unilaterally. This would be more difficult now that the US has backed down somewhat from the previous stance, toned down the rhetoric. However, the US has still amassed a considerable strike force encircling Iran, and continues to maintain these forces in a ready position. It is still yet possible that the MEGALOMANIAC BUSH and his criminal band of fools could launch the war at Iran. This is what makes the Predictions uncertain.

Since it is also known that North Korea has been supplying missile and other technologies with Iran, and also that China has had their heavy hands in Iran, these things combine to produce very grave concerns.

As for myself and mine, I would rather be content to enjoy the sunshine of a clear and beautiful day. Obsessing over Possibilities is damaging to our peace of mind. The best we can do, is to participate in the Peace Meditations to bring more positive energy and spiritual enlightenment into the the Earth.

Salome
Let Our LOVE show in all actions,
J_rod7
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Adityasonakia
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Ashwin,

Yes, you have a good point there.
Yes, thats what Billy also said.

Salome
Aditya
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Badr
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,

Just wanted to correct you, about a small mix-up..

A Prediction is something that is certainly going to happen.
A Prophecy is a possibility if people did not take appropriate actions to stop or change it.

Salome, Badr
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Badr,

My writing sometimes outruns my thinking.

Salome
Let Our LOVE show in all actions,
J_rod7
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Vestri
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Post Number: 230
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After watching this video -

The Iraq Conspiracy
46 min - 21/03/2007
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=2960261426258752639


I think America's interests in Iran has more to do with how Iran has just started selling all of its Oil for Euro's and not for the US dollar. This is what Iraq/Saddam started doing before the US invaded Iraq. The US made trillions of dollars in the past from the Suadi Arabia selling their oil to whoever for US dollars. A very good Documentary.

It explains/backs up what Michael Horn said in this Video below about what Billy told him was the reason why the US invaded Iraq, or else the US dollar would be virtually worth nothing to what its worth now. The PetroDollar.

UFO - Michael Horn on 911 WTC Attack (Billy Meier) 6-24-06
3 min - 04/07/2006
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=932908416686551196
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello All,

As Badr has pointed out my "writing dyslexia" in my post #42, I apologize for any confusion.

When reading #42, please exchange Prophecy for Prediction , and v-v, paragraphs 2 & 3. My bad.

Salome
Let Our LOVE show in all actions,
J_rod7
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Melli
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe we shouldn't get ourselves into a knot quite yet, as Predictions and prophecies are two different issues. I would like to remind all that for broader and deeper understanding of our world situation it's worth reading the Gaiaguys website under the title of "What's New" in order to keep abreast of our current world situation, after all many people in High Places including the UN do the same when they cannot read the German. And this is just my feeling, but because certain people read Billy's information we are all as a global community spared complete world disaster for now.

http://www.gaiaguys.net/meierv9p131,132Stuhlinger.htm

What we currently fear as WW3 may not necessarily be the same as what we have come to know in previous wars, and yet that danger is still a possibility if our idiotic world leaders choose the insane way of dealing with problems. And I see a foregone victory to H. Clinton winning the next presidency because she has been groomed for the office for a long time now as have other elected presidents ALL whom belong to the same secret society of Skulls and Bones and naturally there is no body we hear about enough in the media that is a credible opponent except Al Gore, and he is not even interested in contesting, and wisely I may add. Maybe it's better that he is where he is because in this way he is performing a far more dutiful service to our Planet than all other US presidents in the past.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 332
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Melli,

If you keep up with Wantagate you can see there's the possibility of both Clintons and Bushes being arrested together with a whole load of other unsavory characters.

Check out: http://www.worldreports.org/news

Best,
Chris
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Hunter
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vestri,
Thanks for the videos. The Iraq Conspiracy was very well done. Everyone should watch that.
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Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 169
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Micheal Horn was right on the ball on his video last year:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGC7KSKjsKYUTGAF1oR04-yOpBgg

Will we start rolling cigarette with US thalers, oops dollars? Let`s hope the rest of his video proves wrong over the year...The fundamental cause (US thriving for world domination) is still there, the effect (WWIII) is still possible.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ron Paul: I Hear Members of Congress Saying 'If We Could Only Nuke Iran'

Congressman Ron Paul has warned millions of radio listeners that the US is heading into a deadly confrontation with Iran, revealing his disbelief at members of Congress who have openly voiced support for a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the country.

"If we do (attack) it is going to be a disaster," the Congressman told the Alex Jones show this Thursday.

"I was astounded to see on one of the networks the other day that the debate was not are we going to attack? but are we going to attack before or after the election?" Paul continued.

The Congressman recently voiced his concern over House Congressional Resolution 362 which he has dubbed a 'Virtual Iran War Resolution'.

"If that comes up it is demanding that the President put on an absolute blockade of the entire country of Iran, and punish any country or any business group around the world if they trade with Iran." Paul told listeners.

Rest of Article Here:

http://www.infowars.net/articles/july2008/040708RonPaul2.htm
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Aletha
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everyone!

I've been reading through this figu forum for over 2 months, but only just registered today.
I can't find any section where I can properly introduce myself, so if anyone knows where I can do that, I'd truly appreciate it!

Anyway, I thought I'd let everyone know about a recent article from the UK Times newspaper dated July 13th 2008. The website link is:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4322508.ece


President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran.

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I do the Salome peace meditation on the first & third weekend of each month as recommended on theyfly.com and I find it peaceful.

However, I wonder if our peace meditation is falling short of the desired effect.... or hopefully the peace meditation may lessen the prophecied outcome. that's my intention anyway.


Peace to all,

Maxine
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Badr
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maxine,

First of all welcome to the forum. There isn't really a place for personal introductions, most people don't prefer to do it for some reason. But when they do, forum members usually talk about a specific part of their life relating to a topic on the forum. So for example you could have mentioned it here, then posted the link.

I guess a good place to post something about yourself is here:
Discussionboard of FIGU » The Mission » "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier » How YOU found out about Billy Meier?
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/1339.html?1207748644

Salome,
Badr
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Markc
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Post Number: 671
Registered: 06-2000
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome Maxine , it's nice to see you here .

Kind Regards , Mark
Mark Campbell
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Aletha
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Badr!

I appreciate your help.

I'll go there and formally introduce myself.

Peace & Blessings,

Maxine

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