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    Michael Member Post Number: 677 Registered: 10-2000 |
Great, how's about accountability then? You didn't address the points/objections I raised, so are we going to get more of the "my own ET experiences"? Perhaps you've noticed the painstakingly detailed way in which the translation process takes place, to assure accuracy. And you may have also noticed how little, if any, real self-contradictory information comes from this source. So it seems quite reasonable to me that you also meet such standards when you causally talk about your "experiences", unsubstantiated as they seem to be at this point. I really don't carry if there's a truckload of people who've had these experiences. But I do care that they put their evidence on the table. Meier has and it's also earned him almost two dozen attempts on his life. Fortunately, all of these other "contactees" have escaped such dangers, as I presume that you have too. So, do we get the evidence or will you refrain from making unsubstantiated claims? Am I being arrogant in making that request too? Michael Horn | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 341 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** ******* Hello Roy, and Greetings to All The simple substitution of 'Holonomic' with the more appropriate HoloGraphic would bring Us to a better Understanding. Considered from BOTH the aspects of the Microcosmic AND the Macrocosmic, the Universe is Holographic. There is a Quantum Resonance at levels of Energy underlying the most Basic of Sub-Atomic Structure. Such Quantum Resonance is the Effect of the Universal Consciousness of Creation. The Resonance of Energy Fields at these Quantum levels sustains the 'Instantaneous Knowing' at Vast Distances of all Processes throughout the Universe, at ANY 'Distance'. The "speed" of Spiritual Telepathy is considered to be some 4000-Times the "speed-of-Light." Also Considering the Brain/Mind Functions, the process of Memory, Thought, Senses, & etc. are Holographic. There are generally Parallel flows of Thoughts and Feelings, of Which Our Awareness must remain Focused usually at the One most pressing Task. If, However, some brain section is Damaged, the Memories, Senses etc. may STILL be recovered. You can do Your own Research to Verify This for Yourself. As to the 1908 Tunguska explosion, There Actually WAS still some detectable Residual Radiation some Years later. The "Several Hundred Meters" altitude of the Explosion may mean actually - Several Miles. The Description reads that they Raised their Ship high into the Atmosphere (Stratosphere), and Detonated while falling back towards Earth. The Light of the Blast was seen as much as a Thousand miles away. There were Reports of the 'Night lit up like Day' in England, some 5000-Miles Distant. There was a Large Deep Lake created to the North of 'ground-Zero', wherein there is an anomalous Object detected by Sonar and Side-Scan Radar . Further Expeditions are planned to attempt recovery of what could be remains of the Ship's Engine or some very Dense section left of the Craft. As to what has been Said by Michael, Shawn, and Others, They have made Good Points. MY First Priority is to continue to Learn the Spiritual Teachings, and to live as well as I am able in Truth and Creations Laws. Everything ELSE is Interesting, has Useful Knowledge, Expands our Awareness, and may even Reinforce the Message From the Plejarens. However, this additional Knowledge cannot replace the Message of the Mission. Salome ******* *** * } From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hello Rod, Definition: (From Wiki encyclopedia) "The holonomic brain theory, originated by psychologist Karl Pribram and initially developed in collaboration with physicist David Bohm, is a model for human cognition that is drastically different from conventionally accepted ideas." Yes, in order to understand the Holographic Universe one must think holonomically rather than linearly which is our long traditional way of thinking on planet earth that leads to tunnel vision, its consequences and a seemingly inescapable trap. Michael: I have no photographs. No videos. No metal parts. No ray guns. No $400 models of "flying saucers." No sound recordings. However, I have a witness who was taken along with me in 1967. Or, rather, I was taken along with HIM because they came for him and, unbeknownst to him until that night, had been coming for him throughout his entire life for the sake of his DNA. You can call that "anecdotal" evidence, if you want, but that is the concept my friend Eddie remembered the night we were taken. This was long before either of us read anything about so-called "abductions." It was 1967 and we certainly had not heard of "genetic engineering," "directed panspermia" nor any such thing. You see, Michael, I have no need to convince anyone of anything. Believe it or don't believe it or let it remain a mystery. I care not. Really. As Jim says, "there will always be plausible and semi-plausible denial." That's built in. I have no vested interests whatsoever. In my view, ETIs primary concern is not to provide linear evidence to "convince" folks. If that were true there would be a far greater number of buckets full of ET material (confirmed by "experts" of course) than there are. Some folks are still trying to figure out what those strange lights in the sky are, and often do not believe their own eyes. However, those who interface with the ETIs know very well what SOME of those strange lights are and still often do not believe their own eyes so have learned to trust their intuitions instead. I think ETIs are here to help us rearrange the thinking of our highly limited biominds through the focused efforts of own mental, emotional and spiritual processes. MEDITATION and INITIATION, as Billy says on a taped interview. If anyone desires to actually read about my experiences, I speak of them here: http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/Inter.html Plus the paper I wrote, on the link I give in my signature, evolved out of those experiences and my ongoing telepathic interface. They are not dictations from ETIs but my own perceptions of what I learn through my ongoing telepathic contact with them. So are Billy's. So are Carlos Dias'. So are Mirriam Bluestar's. So is every contactee on earth and there are many, not few. And, no two of them is alike. Marvelous, I think. Especially due to the fact that although no two are alike, there is only ONE message. Boiled down to its essence: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for our own thoughts, life and action. However, such communication betweem entities on two very different frequencies of space-time is a mixture of what the ETIs are saying and the persons own concepts, human ego, prejudices, beliefs, traumas, education and a number of other factors especially the path of their individual spirit journey. And, of course, not all contactees have the rigorous training of purification and focus that Billy's particular mission required. And yet, no one is a "chosen one" but a volunteer that still must overcome their limitations, especially fear. Everything passes through our own minds and must be interpreted by the limited information contained within our individual mental processing equipment. This is an especially important thing to understand with regard to any contact with the ETIs because they are downstepping new concepts in terms and metaphors we, according to our individual perceptions, are able to decipher and relate with for the sake of contemplation and communication. Without the translation produced by such a downstep, the ETIs would be totally incomprehensible to us in every way. That is my view and you are welcome to think differently and even try to convince me of "error" if you wish for the sake of your own vested interest. However, I will not argue nor debate, only freely share what I have. Some understand it, some don't. So be it. I have found that most of the folks that do not understand it have not given it any serious consideration due to preconceived concepts. We all have different points of view due to having different experiences, Michael, and thus see the world in slightly or greatly different ways according to how we interpret those life experiences. Once we humans on planet Earth mutually understand that, we will have peace instead of war over vested interests. Salome J_rod7. I really resonate with your signature. The past and future is constantly changing, according to how our understanding and comprehension of it evolves, as we continually grok new meanings about our Universal interconnectivity in this most present moment. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Marksmanr Member Post Number: 38 Registered: 02-2008 |
Nestingwave, you say you have ongoing telepathic contact with "Extraterrestrial Intelligences" which you present as a fact, and from that, you say that people need to think "holonomically" instead of linearly, and that information received from the extraterrestrial intelligences/people needs to be downstepped in order for the Earth human (/contactee?) to understand. Due to you saying such things in a factual way, people want proof/evidence of such contacts, but you apparently have none, which is fine, and you then say that you don't care about anyone believing you or not. Now, evidence aside, the information you present factually, such as the following from your post #90: "However, I have a witness who was taken along with me in 1967. Or, rather, I was taken along with HIM because they came for him and, unbeknownst to him until that night, had been coming for him throughout his entire life for the sake of his DNA." This suggests you were apparently abducted, and that the person with you had been abducted throughout his life, which reason is/was due to interest in his DNA. "So are Billy's. So are Carlos Dias'. So are Mirriam Bluestar's. So is every contactee on earth and there are many, not few." This suggests all those people are apparently contactees, and that there are many contactees on Earth. "This is an especially important thing to understand with regard to any contact with the ETIs because they are downstepping new concepts in terms and metaphors we, according to our individual perceptions, are able to decipher and relate with for the sake of contemplation and communication. Without the translation produced by such a downstep, the ETIs would be totally incomprehensible to us in every way." You say things like this a lot. Apparently the complexity or bandwidth of the information from the "ETIs" has to be downstepped in order to be understood at all. Now finally, you always refer to the extraterrestrial people you apparently have contact with as "ETIs", which is a third person reference, not a first person reference such as names, which suggests you also apparently have never actually met the ETIs in person, and/or have never developed a personal relationship with them. My thoughts are that a lot of what you say simply is either not right, or really does not seem right. Reece Stiller | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 427 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Nestingwave just a few points to comment.... Here the people who are interested in the Meier case and Figu we do are not familiar with the term ETI, we will never use it because it represents a oversimplification of a much more complex concept. It causes plenty of confusion. In the universe you can find flora, fauna, humanoids and non humanoids. Billy Meier will tell you the difference between a humanoid creature and a non-humanoid creature. That's what you will find in our dimension, because "pure spirit forms" cannot be contacted by human beings with a very low evolutionary level like us. Spirit forms of former personalities can be contacted, but that does not bring any evolutionary benefit and just two or three people are able to do that at the present time. So it would be fine if you define the concept ETI, (extraterrestrial intelligence) if you find it meaningful and helpful. We find that ETI is a sectarian and wrong term for "consciousness evolving creature". The consciousness is a tool developed by the so called spirit form in order to learn and make progress in a material world. Without a consciousness (call it self evolving intelligence) as a tool or relay station, the spirit form wouldn't be able to learn and accumulate experiences/wisdom because its essence is of a very different nature as anything which consists of matter. Btw you claim to maintain telepathic contacts with whatever/whatsoever "intelligences" in the universe. Congratulations. I will take you and your experiences serious if in your website you decide to call the infamous and nonexistent Jesus Christ his real name Jmmanuel. Also, for me, the following paragraph taken from your website shows me that you should not be posting in this forum, but in the abovetopsecret forum: A few weeks after that remembrance in 2002, I telepathically received a message from the Greys inviting me to meet with them that night in an unoccupied gazebo in a certain park. I did so and the same five Greys showed up -- again, they were ortho-rotated and were tangible but almost invisible exactly like before. They just sat around me in silence for a while. We were sitting in near total darkness but I could see people walking on the lighted paved pathways in the distance. Ask Billy or any other Figu representative if he can endorse your experiences. I know the answer. | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hi Hector, I could care less about "endorsement." I have nothing "for sale." Billy and FIGU representatives are just human beings becoming, exactly like the rest of us, with their own points of view which they arrived at the same way you and I did - by assmilating and interpreting their own experiences - a process which is pretty much the same with all of our biokind. However, we all come to slightly or greatly different conclusions depending upon our particular experiences, educations, encluturations, traumas, etc. If you wish to have someone else do your thinking for you, that is entirely your choice. From my own point of view, you, I and all of us are eternal soverign beings and are perfectly capable of thinking for ourselves and need no intermediaries. So-called "experts" aren't. There ARE no "experts," only VERY limited human beings. Trying to conform other people into a certain doctrinal dogmatic way of thinking is and always has been the problem on planet Earth. This is the result of linear thinking and its consequences -- that is -- war, tyranny and intense polarizations with other human beings as ignorant as oneself. It is interesting that those who try to conform others the most are the most insecure in themselves. "Status quo" on this planet, regardless of which "status quo" it is, has a very bloody past full of arrogance, selfishness and self-centeredness. Reece, Okay. Michael, I have a question for you. Where does the name "Ptaah" come from? The past and future is constantly changing, according to how our understanding and comprehension of it evolves, as we continually grok new meanings about our Universal interconnectivity in this most present moment. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 345 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hello All Regardless of Our personal 'Feelings' of these Disclosures, let's Please avoid Acrimony here. As said in one of Shakespeare's Plays: "There are Greater Things in Heaven or Earth Than Dreamed of in Your Philosophies... " It should be remembered that all other Beings from beyond Earth ARE Spirits IN SOME FORM (whether 'Biologic' or 'Synthetic' form)- And which Spirits comes from Creation Spirit. Without Exception. Roy, Hector, and Reece, Please reference this (even if You already 'Know') from ARAHAT ATHERSATA...: http://theyfly.com/spiritual/spiritual.htm And Roy, if I may suggest, there is Benefit to You from further study of that which has been revealed to Us from the Plejarens. If You also find Correlations in all This with that which You Gain from the ETI, Please, then Share. You have directed Our attention to Their Premise of Personal Responsibility, and This also Correlates with the Message from Billy AND the Plejarens. Browse the Books and DVDs available from...: http://www.theyfly.com Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 678 Registered: 10-2000 |
Roy, The name Ptaah is what we are told the leader of the alleged extraterrestrial Plejaren race is called. A similar name, Ptah, refers to an ancient Egyptian god. Now that we've got that out of the way, I'd like to suggest that your friend, you know, the one whose DNA is so highly valued by some presumed ETs that they've traveled who knows how long and how far to get it, should either himself invest in, or suggest that the ETs do, the kind of readily available equipment as is suggested here: http://www.hampshire.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/D0236D1F-C9C7-42DE-B639-EECF44EA9BA2/0/26118.pdf ...cause DNA is so quick and easy to obtain, as is suggested also here: http://www.impactlab.com/2006/11/27/latest-trend-taking-dna-sample-from-your-kids/%20 ...that the whole "they need our DNA" story is more than obsolete and doesn't even make a particularly interesting element in sci-fi, such as the kind of writing that you do. I do hope that neither you nor anyone else takes it too personally when these dopey stories are called out for their lack of evidence, let alone logic. Let's remember that Meier is hardly thin-skinned, having been called every name in the book - despite making the most convincing case on earth for actual ET contact - and has been more than willing to substantiate his claims. And, since the word is that Meier also writes the spiritual teaching for the Plejaren, just what is so interesting, in comparison, about an alleged "contact" that produces absolutely no evidence nor, apparently, a single item of uniquely informative and valuable information? I would say that at this point there's no more mileage for your, or anyone else's, purported contact stories. Rather, I think it would be more productive, as well as honest, to simply present your own views on whatever the topic may be...based on your own...real experience. Michael Horn | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 346 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** And again, Thinking about Arahat Athersata...some Questions come into My Mind. We know that Those at the Level of Arahat Athersata EVOLVED to That Level, as those of the Council in Andromeda advanced by Evolution to That Level, as the Plejarens advanced by Evolution to That Level, AND as We on Earth Evolved to Our current Level. Or, Turn this Sequence of Progression around to see Our Own Future. Now, to the Point: We are on the Verge of achieving True Space-Flight. The Plejarens have been Space-Faring some 22-Million years. Those from the Andromeda Council 'dropped-by' to visit with Billy in an Amazing Ship of Brilliant Light. How long have Those from Andromeda been Space-Faring.?!?! I think the 'Time' could be measured in the Billions of years. Do We think They have been the 'Only Ones'? How long AGO were Those of Arahat Athersata Space-Faring? Do We still measure in Billions, or possibly Trillions of 'Years'? Food for Thought Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Nestingwave Member Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hi Rod, You said, "It should be remembered that all other Beings from beyond Earth ARE Spirits IN SOME FORM (whether 'Biologic' or 'Synthetic' form)- And which Spirits comes from Creation Spirit. Without Exception." I certainly agree with that. Without exception. Of course, that includes all of us also. However, most of us are not quite as aware of that fact as the ETs are. I think they view whatever physical form they take as tools of communication in our frequency. They can move back and forth between such frequencies at will. Yes, I'm very familiar with Michael's fine site. And, I have read and studied all the materials in the English language. And, continue to do so. This is Billys unique mission but it is not the only mission - only one of many. They are ALL different and yet some of the most striking similarities are: 1) the reaffirmation of reincarnation, 2) the coming energetic changes, 3) world turmoil in varying degrees due to these cosmic changes, 4) incremental disclosure ALWAYS with plausible and semi-plausible deniability in order to protect the minds of those who are simply not ready, 5) the damage done on the planet by cult religions -- ALL of them, 6) our ignorance as to WHO and WHAT we are, WHERE we came from and HOW we can become (evolve) through overcoming our shortcomings and recognizing our interconnectivity with the entire web of life - as well as other points, such as the too rapid acceleration of our technology over our spiritual development that could lead to self-annihilation. Kids playing with nuclear matches. The key is our spiritual development: MEDITATION and INITIATION as Billy so rightly suggested. These two items are very holonomic and non-linear in nature. A complete change in our thinking is called for. So, from their downstep to us, they present many lessons in discernment which provoke us to get busy and work these matters out for ourselves. This is a requirement for planet Earth to become a space-faring civilization because otherwise we would pose a great danger to the entities we will be encountering. In fact, more than likely, the military has already shot some of them down. How long will this take? It all depends upon us, however, things seem to be moving at a more rapid pace as more and more folks begin to wake up to the fact that this present paradigm is no longer sustainable. namaste, Roy The past and future is constantly changing, according to how our understanding and comprehension of it evolves, as we continually grok new meanings about our Universal interconnectivity in this most present moment. http://www.geocities.com/nestingwave/DwnStepA.html | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1573 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, This forum is not about someone's alledged contacts one way or another. The Plejarens have made it clear regarding this issue, and since this Forum represents Billy the Plejarens and the Mission, it needs to be left at that. Whether you agree with what the Plejarens have said about this, or not seems to be a mute point at this time. This topic area at present serves no interest in furthering the mission. If people want to continue to discuss the merits of someone's alledged ET contacts, please do so somewhere else. No more posts will be accepted regarding this subject. Scott | ||
Jamesm Member Post Number: 99 Registered: 02-2006 |
It is clear to me from Meier's books etc that the Plejaren Federation will not intervene on Earth in the case of natural terrestrial disasters such as earthquakes, nor will they prevent another nuclear war. They will however rescue us from a natural disaster not of our making such as our sun going supernova. They will also stop us from causing an extrasolar catastrophe as it would affect other inhabited planets etc and violate their rights to life. But what I would like to know is...would they defend us from the direct assault of another extraterrestrial race? There are more than one out there that would slaughter us if they could find us. I know that the Plejaren exiled the Bafath from Earth in May 1978 to another planet and stripped them of all technology, exiled the Sabans (Bafath splinter group) from the Karan system in October 1982 and they also deported the Pegasus group back to their home planet to face charges (they were allied to the Bafath and assisted them with attacking Billy and others around him). So it is clear that they defended "us" back then but since they departed Earth in 1995 this then imposes the question of whether they would intervene against large-scale, overt attacks from another ET force. If we had a chance with our technology of defeating them then perhaps it could be classed as within the bounds of the laws of creation to permit the war to end without intervention. How far is the law of Creation that states that the free will of every human creature must be safeguarded, even if used for negative purposes permitted to be exploited by negative forces before superior positive forces are permitted to intervene? (for more detail on the attacks against Billy I recommend you read And Still They Fly - and you will also find a great deal of other fascinating and revealing info not available online). Kind Regards James G. T. Moore Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1221 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Jamesm.... Yes, very good question! As far as I can recall, is....that the Plejarans did once say, that they may perhaps aid us ONLY....if WE asked them! Seeing, that they, or better said, their forefather's lineages, have already made such a confusing situation(s)with their wars and interminglings, and what not, the Plejarans of today felt very 'obligated' to correct and set all back to its neutral ways of existence; as much as they can. So, they would NOT directly offer their help and aid, but itself. So, they have been having a hard time getting their past out of our mud, so to speak; let alone....them making it more worse, by intervening, in any shape or form. Unless, there may indeed be such damages being done, that they have no other alternative but to intervene, in any way they can. I did once read, that there are indeed, individuals on Earth whom are - unaware - that they have (some sort) contacts with certain ET groups, though. This seems to be, in the manifestation of some sort of telepathic impulses, in format...or something. And if, there should be some sort of great war, or other negative ET related war, these individuals will know what to do. So, the ETs are not directly physically present, thus we work only...through their impulses(Positive means). Just the other way around, as the Giza boys executed(Negative means). [How far there is truth to this, I do not know.... but thought to mention it.] So, I think the Plejarans do not want to burn their hands....twice, if you will. And we do....have our own Evolution to Fulfill! Plejarans can not always - Babysit - for us, not? Edward. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 366 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hello All, JamesM, > "...Since they departed Earth in 1995 this then imposes the question of whether they would intervene against large-scale, overt attacks from another ET force." < The Plejarens have 'left behind' Telemeter Discs, by which they are able to monitor events on Earth and within the Space within our Solar System. As there is a "Non-Interference" Policy in effect in regards to our Freedom of Progress, IF such Hostile ETs were to attack Us beyond our capability to Defend, then this would be a clear violation of the Policy. The Plejarens would surly have to Intervene on our behalf (IMO). ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ Here is a bit of 'News', as a statement from the Vatican...: [ "Vatican Gives Nod to ETs [ "Paola Harris writes, Father Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit priest who directs the Vatican’s observatory at Castel Gandolfo near Rome, declared: “As an astronomer, I continue to believe that God is the creator of the Universe. The search for extraterrestrial life does not contradict belief in God.” He added that some aliens might even be innocent of original sin. “How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?” Funes said. “Just as we consider earthly creatures as ‘a brother,’ and ‘sister,’ why should we not talk about an ‘extraterrestrial brother’? It would still be part of creation.” [ "To make this statement even more important, the newspaper Il Osservatore Romano, the official mouthpiece of the Vatican, released the interview. In the article, Funes stated, “Even if we don’t currently have any proof, the hypothesis of extraterrestrial life cannot be ruled out. “Just as there are a plethora of creatures on Earth, there could be others, equally intelligent, created by God.” [ "With this statement, Funes echoes the words of Monsignor Corrado Balducci, as the “unofficial” voice of the Vatican. At UFO conferences in Italy, Monsignore Balducci, once Vatican Nuncio to Washington, D.C., stated, “All is possible. God created us to give praise to Him, as I imagine He created others species to do the same. How can God be glorified without a varied creation?” For the past 15 years, I lived in Italy very close to the Vatican, and I often dined with Monsignor Balducci at his home. Balducci, who was also an expert demonologist, wanted to open the door to the Catholic study of ufology. Since he was never hindered in this pursuit by Vatican authorities, he felt they had given him their silent approval. With the proclamation of Father Funes, that approval is no longer silent. I often asked Balducci if he thought that some aliens were demonic. His answer was, “The devil does not need UFOs.” [ "Balducci believes that over the last 150 years, the UFO phenomenon has appeared sequentially and with an increasing and spreading frequency. He made a strong distinction between this phenomemon and manifestations of the paranormal, such as Spiritualism. He believes adamantly there must be creatures between us and the angels on the evolutionary scale. These could be ETs. Humans are at the bottom of the evolutionary ladder because we know the difference between good and evil, and often choose evil. Monsignor Balducci states, Jesus died for the sins of extraterrestrials as well: “Jesus died for all beings in the cosmos. In the sacred Scriptures, He is called King of the Universe at least 66 times. Never underestimate the great mercy or compassion of God, whose grace and compassion surpass all.” Thanks to FATE Magazine: September-October 2008" ] This Story came to Me from Major George A. Filer USAF (Ret.), A Director of MUFON. His complete Report (Filer's Files #45) may be found at: www.ufoinfo.com and at: www.nationalufocenter.com Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Jamesm Member Post Number: 101 Registered: 02-2006 |
Thanks Rod. I used to read Filers Files as I thought that they were interesting and worth a read if you have the time to do so. Anyway Balducci is still quite religiously deluded dont you think? Little does he realise that the Plejaren are the angels and that he is really a member of a deluded religious cult called Catholicism....well Gabriel was a Plejaren-human at least: Jmmanuel's biological father. Back to the subject of ET intervention, I've come across another story of what the Plejaren did to protect us....its quite interesting....in And Still They Fly, on page 272, Mr Moosbrugger describes how we avoided the invasion of another race thanks to the Plejaren (and their allies)! He doesn't provide a date or a name of the race or their star system however I can tell you the following.... The population of 16 inhabited planets of a 3-star (trinary) star system that was nearing the end of its life-supporting age was intending to invade Earth and kill us all (a global massacre) and then colonise Earth themselves. Thanks to the Plejaren they were resettled on other habitable planets! Now that sounds like ET intervention on a major scale once again. I'd like to know more and ask Billy about this incident. I would like to thank our Plejaren Federation friends for saving us again and again, all 3.5 billion of them. On the other hand they probably think that verbal thanks is not necessary since your thoughts and mine were already recorded in the permanent storage banks of Earth... Regards James G. T. Moore Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1226 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Jamesm.... Yes, very good excerpt from Guido; am indeed familiar with that one. Good for you to bring it up; refreshes my memory. Would be quite Logical; in the case, as I mentioned : Unless, there may indeed be such damages being done, that they have no other alternative but to intervene, in any way they can. And that it would have been quite an - overkill -, by those ETs. Plejarans and Fed, indeed...took the appropriate steps. But Semjase did mentioned in the early Contact Notes, that we should also be on guard for ETs whom have vicious intentions, though. These aliens, kidnap humans and take them back to their home worlds and put them in Human Zoos! Yes: Human Zoos! Do experiments on humans and exhibit them to their species, etc. Most horrifying scenarios them humans find themselves, as Semjase mentioned. But those type of aliens are only in a minority. And that is why, Semjase mentioned we Earth humans should still focus our satellites in the direction of Outer Space; but instead, we have multiple satellites directed to the Earth - Spy satellites, gsm, etc.... And just want Total Control over mankind, on Earth. So, this too, we should take heed to. And if the Plejarans would intervene, would indeed still be the question. But as to Semjase's statement, seems we are on our own? Seeing it would be incidents, and not a mass invasion. Edward. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1108/tall-et.html a piece of news for UFOlogists. | ||
Pathfinder Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 10-2008 |
Interesting earthling, Has Billy acknowledged this sighting at all? the guy definitely has credentials. I wonder why he isn't a member of FIGU? "Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth." Contact 18:62 | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 408 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hello All, Earthling, a very interesting story there by Clark C. McClelland. Be advised that the 'pictures' on that Site are actually 'Artists Concepts,' not photos. There is also a Link on that Site to Clark's own webpage, with even more interesting stories. Pathfinder, the Shuttle Missions were started long after Billy's Flights with the Plejarens. Billy may Know of these Encounters, but, so far as I know, has not yet spoken of them. Perhaps You could ask Billy about this Yourself. In the Original Books I have of Message From The Pleiades, there is a photo which Billy took from inside Semjase's Beamship. The photo is made of the Apollo-Soyuze Docking, with Earth in the background. The photo was made from an apparent distance of about 100-Meters. At the Time, there were two other Plejaren Beamships, plus some from OTHER Star-Travelers there as well, all of them Cloaked for invisibility to Visual or Radar discovery. I've also seen photos which Billy made above Mars, which showed some other Large Craft in orbit there around Mars. Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 490 Registered: 07-2004 |
Gaiawingz, It's a very intriguing story of Mr. Bender. I've read just the compact versions of his story, but it seems many feel his first book dealing with these MIB is best read with the "cliff notes' version. The mystery and accounts of these beings makes me sense there is a lot happening we don't hear about. There are incidences that tie together with the descriptions given of these alien beings from others, making a plausibility of an actual agenda they seem to service. Do you have any additional knowledge or links you could share about these beings? I am thinking there is much to be learned by studying these characters. Any help would be appreciated. Salome, a friend in america Shawn | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hi Shawn, Norm made a very good Post, #1191, in reference to the MIB here: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/9346.html#POST34360 There are three distinct 'Types' of the MIB. Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 26 Registered: 11-2008 |
if I'm not mistaken the alien autopsy video footage in the Roswell case had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot but according to the female Plejaren, Florena, it was actually a sixteen year old girl that was suffering from an illness called, according to Ptaah, Proterie. Is it possible that the sixteen year old girl had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot in the first place? What about the eyes? Is it possible for someone who is suffering from 'Proterie' to have eyes like that? | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 474 Registered: 10-2007 |
* *** Hello All, This account is included in the recent issue of Filer's Files #50. The files are available at www.nationalufocenter.com and www.ufofiler.com. **~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~** Air Marshall Sir Peter Horsley Claims He Met ET In Timothy Good’s excellent new book, “Alien Base Earths Encounters with Extraterrestrials” he reports on Air Marshal Sir Peter Horsley, former Deputy Commander in Chief of Strike Command, a war hero who flew Mosquitoes against the Germans, who has held one of the highest ranks in the RAF who in 1954, had a two hour meeting with an apparently extraterrestrial man in London. In his fascinating autobiography, "Sounds From Another Room", Sir Peter devotes a lengthy chapter to the subject of UFOs, including details of his investigations into sightings reported by pilots; details which he relayed to Prince Phillip, who shared his interest in the phenomenon. He was equerry (advisor) to Her Majesty the Queen and Prince Phillip for seven years. Another enthusiast was air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Barratt, who retired from the RAF at the end of the war. Barrett introduced Sir Peter to a friend of his, a General Martin, who believed that flying saucers were extraterrestrial vehicles from another planet whose inhabitants were trying to warn us of the perils of nuclear war. Sir Peter was not convinced. One day in 1954, General Martin phoned Sir Peter, inviting him to meet a Mrs. Markham that night at her London flat in Smith Street, Chelsea. Morning There, in a dimly lit room, he was introduced to a ‘Mr. Janus.’ Without any preliminaries, writes Sir Peter, ‘Mr. Janus dived straight into the deep end by asking me to tell him all I knew about UFOs. He listened patiently… At the end I thought I might be equally as direct and asked Janus what his interest was? He answered me a quite simply, “I would like to meet the Duke of Edinburgh.” Somewhat taken aback, Sir Peter replied that this would not be easy. But it was here the strangeness of it all started – the man’s extraordinary ability to read my thoughts.’ Asked why he wanted to meet Prince Phillip, Janus replied: ‘He is a man of great vision. . . who believes strongly in the proper relationship between man and nature which will prove of great importance in future galactic harmony… perhaps you and I can discuss the subject first and you will be able to judge whether I’m dangerous or not. ‘Sir Peter devotes 14 pages to the ensuing two hour discourse, of which selected excerpts follow. Janus began by pointing out that man was ‘now striving to break his earthly bonds and travel to the Moon and the planets beyond’. He continued: But flight to the stars is Man’s ultimate dream, although knowledge of the vast distances involved in interstellar flight makes it appear only a dream. Yet perhaps after a hundred years or so… exploration of his own solar system may be complete and it is just not in Man’s nature to stop there…Just as tribes found other tribes and Christopher Columbus discovered on his travels unknown centers of ancient civilizations so Man in his journeys through the universe may find innumerable centers of culture far more ancient than his own…He will discover a wealth of experiences infinitely more startling and beautiful than can be imagined: and infinite variety of agencies and forces as yet unknown: great fields of gravity and anti-gravity where objects are accelerated across space like giant sling shots, even other universes with different space and time formula. Why does Man reach for the stars? His energies have never been solely directed towards material benefits alone. From the beginning of Man’s history he has striven… towards a spirituality and grace of which he was aware but could not fully comprehend. This drive to reach out beyond himself has been the motive power behind some of Man’s finest achievements… So Man invading space for material gain or personal glorification alone will gain nothing, but Man searching to enrich his own spirituality and nature will come closer to understanding that God is Universal. A Dark Age "The Earth is going through a Dark Age at the moment," Janus went on. "Material processions count more than a Man’s soul." Like a child, Man is preoccupied with his technological toys, which he believes will bring him riches and happiness. This shows up in the superficiality of his culture and a careless disregard for nature. In his greedy quest for more complex machines Man is prepared to sacrifice almost anything - his natural environment, animals and even his fellow humans. The dreadful specter of blowing up his world hardly makes him falter in this headlong rush. Thanks to Timothy Good, “Alien Base Earths Encounters With Extraterrestrials” P.25-26. Story continued next week. **~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~** These are some VERY interesting Revelations from an Encounter in 1954. Sir Peter Horsley has some impeccable Credentials. I shall Post the continued Story here, after Mr. Filer sends it to me next week. Salome *** * From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others, Awaken to Your true Essential Being J_rod7 |
