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    Kaare Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Pureharmony, Ref your msnbc.msn you quoted above - Snow spotted falling on Mars This is interesting news. And there is in fact some info about this in the Contact notes. During the great journey onboard Ptaah’s mothership in 1975 Billy was first told by Ptaah that it was snowing on Mars. And this was later repeated by Quetzal in contact 212 dated 6th of November 1986. Below is an excerpt of the part from this contact where this matter was discussed: (from Block 5 page 188) Billy Jetzt moechte ich dich aber nochmals auf den Mars ansprechen, denn bei unserem letzten diesbezueglichen Gespraech habe ich eine Frage vergessen, die ich noch vorbringen wollte. Ptaah erklaerte mir auf der Grossen Reise, dass es auch auf dem Mars laufende Klimawechsel gebe. So habe ich es jedenfalls in Erinnerung. Ist das richtig so? Billy: Now, however, I would like again to address Mars with you, because at our last discussion concerning this matter I had forgotten a question, which I would still like to bring forward. Ptaah explained to me on “the great journey” that there is ongoing change in climate also on Mars. So I have it, anyhow, in memory. Is it correct like that? Quetzal 47. Ja, das ist von Richtigkeit. 47. Yes, that is correct. 48. Auf dem Mars gibt es laufende Klimawechsel und somit also auch planetare klimatische Veraenderungen, durch die z.B Schnee fält, der allerdings anders geartet ist als auf der Erde, denn er besteht teilweise aus Kohlendioxid. 48. On Mars there is ongoing change in climate and therefore also planetary climatic changes, by which for instance snow falls, which however, is differently constituted than on earth, because it consists partly of carbon dioxide. Billy Ja genau, das sagte Praah auch. Billy Yes exactly, that’s what Ptaah said too. Regards Kaare | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 670 Registered: 10-2000 |
Hi Kaare, Do you have the page in the CN where Ptaah tells Billy about the snow on Mars? Michael Horn | ||
Pureharmony Member Post Number: 134 Registered: 08-2002 |
Hi Kaare, Thanks for posting that excerpt from the contact note about the snow on Mars! That's great! It makes me glad I posted that news! *pureharmony* | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Michael, Had a look through contact 31 dated 7th July 1975 (in Block 1). This is the contact which has the official recordings of the Great journey onboard the mother ship, and is the one in where Billy told Quetzal that he had been given the information about Mars from Ptaah. However I find no official statements about the Mars info in that particular contact. Meaning, as far as I can tell, the info first appears officially in print in contact 212 dated 6 November 1986 but in which Billy replies to Quetzal that it was same info that he was given by Ptaah Back in 1975. Looking again at contact 31 dated 7 July 1975, in the very beginning of this contact Semjase makes clear to Billy that He has to keep confidential certain things that he is going to experience until a later date. And furthermore that when she later is forwarding him the official contact report , that she will leave out all that he could not yet publish.. Wherefore I think a likely reason would be that Billy was not allowed to publish this particular information in 1975 and thus the dialogue he had with Ptaah about Mars was left out of this contact for later release. But this is just my own thoughts about it Regards Kaare | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 348 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Michael, Kaare and interested ones, I used Wolfgang's reference spreadsheet index with Mars as the searchword... Contact books, books, bulletins and Internet: C250 Pyramids, Melona, suspension of genetically altered ones, Collision of walking planet w/Mars, 5 Races on Mars, Mars/Destroyer collision... Bulletin 2 p7 Mars an international goal... Bulletin 8 Pyramids on Mars... Bulletin 1 P9 Humans to Mars Bulletin 2 P9 Mars Meteorite.. Did not read or find reference to snow on Mars... If someone finds the reference contact, book name or bulletin number plus page number or contact number... Please let me know... and I will add to the reference spreadsheet and send a copy to you... Kind Regards, RArena ô¿ô PS> Searchword "Snow" only got C92 Menara's landing... | ||
Adysor Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 03-2008 |
The snow on Mars...I heard that in an article on the net...but don't remember which one. All I know is that the scientists didn't see white snow on the land...but only observed clouds forming which could produce snow but it is impossible for it to hit the ground due to the very hot surface. Adrian. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2008 |
I'd just like to point out to those who assign God-like, all-knowing, the final source and say on all matters beyond mainstream terrestrial wisdom, status to Billy: Someone posted a quote of one of the contact reports where it is revealed that the snow on Mars has more carbon dioxide in it than on our planet earth. The socalled 'boy from Mars', Boriska from Russia, said when he was merely 7 years old: "Martians breathe air which is mostly carbon dioxide. If they came to our planet, they would always stay near smoke stacks." http://projectcamelot.org/indigo_boy_from_mars.html In response to the question: - Is there life on Mars now? Boriska replied - " Yes, there is, but the planet lost its atmosphere many years ago as a result of a global catastrophe. But Martian people still live there under the ground. They breath carbonic gas." - How do they look those Martian people? - "Oh they are very tall, taller than seven meters. They possess incredible qualities." http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/378/16387_Boriska.html =========================== As much as we all 'love' Billy, respect him, his life, his wisdom, his experience; lets not elevate him to sole deity status, the final source & say on certain areas of wisdom & knowledge; as did our ancestors/predecessors with Jmmanuel, aka Jesus Christ or Mohammed, or X, Y or Z. If Billy is indeed a human being, he is not a know-it-all. He may be able to tap into arthersata levels of knowledge, as we can tap into google, but dismissing all humans in favor of the one and elevating the one to God status, has been this worlds problem for millenia. | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Pureharmony, Yes, it is interesting to watch newsflash about snow falling on Mars knowing that Billy actually had informed us decades ago about this fact.. Thank you for sharing the news article. Regards Kaare | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 509 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi Rarena (is it Randy Arena?), can you tell us, or me at least, who Wolfgang is and where we might all be able to find this spreadsheet index he has put together? If it is not accessible to the public, will you pass on a request to him to share it with us if possible. Thanks for the help :-) Thomas | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 253 Registered: 06-2006 |
Earthling If you can't see the obvious difference between information gleaned from a boy who supposedly is remembering a past life (which we all have had, and some of us also remember things that might be interesting to others) and Billy Meier and his offerings/writings/etc....... and not forgetting that this is a forum to discuss the teachings of Billy Meier and the Plejaren and the mission, and not a forum to discuss every Tom Dick and Harry who offers something of interest -- if you can't see the difference, then I wonder why you are on this forum at all? There are many people who have things to offer, and no-one could deny that and be considered rational -- but to bombard this forum with accounts of others work and ideas as some people tend to do, is not the point of the forum. Discussing the work of others in the light of Billy Meier's work IS relevant, as long as the discussion stays on that track. I feel your accusation to be a poor one considering the forum you are on, although you are entitled to it, I think it is misplaced and misguided. If I never heard of Boriska, my life would not be in any way lessened I don't think -- and that goes for many others out there who are offering insights. There are as many insights and theories out there as there are drops of water in the ocean. Our job is to find those that resonate with us, and learn as much as we can from them. If you resonate with Boriska fine -- go for it -- but maybe see that others resonate with Meier's teachings, and are happy to spend their time focusing mainly on that. If you see people focusing on Meier and his teachings here it is simply because that is what this forum is for. Holding Billy in high regard is a personal choice, and if some want to do that at the exclusion of others, that also is fine for them. They may be on other forums as well, and get involved with that area just as much -- but this forum is the Figu forum. You do it your way, and let others do it their way. Be more tolerant, as all of us have to be, of individual ways of handling information. Robjna | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 05-2008 |
Indi, apparently I hit a nerve or two, as is often the case where beliefs are involved. I am not a Boriska-ist. I am not here pushing that boy on anyone. I was not comparing him to Mr. Meier. I have hardly 'bombarded' this forum with accounts of others work or ideas. Can you not see that Boriska's account of Martians breathing carbon dioxide, Mars having had a global catastrophe, that young boy remembering a long ago past life, concurs with and is relevant to what Billy has had to say? I found it interesting and relevant, as have others, and I was simply sharing that information. If you don't, good on you. And as I said above, it is not a matter of 'resonating' with one person, at the expense of all others; as has been the destructive case with a Jesus, a Mohammed, a Buddha, a Hitler, a Bush, a Pope, or any of the modern day Holy Hookers, aka gurus, or whomever one puts up on a pedestal, at the exclusion of all others. I realize this is a Billy Meier forum and NOT a Billy Meier Cult, which is why it is relevant to respect & integrate other humans experiences whether they concur or conflict, with what Billy has to say. As for your advice admonishing me to 'be more tolerant'; I have not much tolerance for intolerance. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1565 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Earthling, Have you ever been a member of this forum before? | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 254 Registered: 06-2006 |
I knew you would respond exactly as you have Earthling. Boriska's comments about Mars could be rubbish -- or they could be fact -- and whether or not they corroborate Billy's info is not too earthshattering to contemplate. Re holding Billy up as some deity ----most of the people I know on this forum and who study the material, don't hold Billy up as a deity but they do think that the knowledge he has imparted to us is worth serious study. That is not the same thing. Some might, but those are not the ones who understand. I might sound intolerant of your comments, but in fact I am quite tolerant -- but every now and then I like to voice my opinion on what others say, just as those who say things want to voice theirs. If I don't like what you say, then I am intolerant, but if I like it and agree with you then I am.................... Now we are off topic. it must have been the way you put together your post Earthling that led to me responding the way I did. Think about it. Robjna | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 05-2008 |
Scott, no I have not been a member of this forum before, why do you ask? Indi - I didn't call or infer that Boriska's comments were earthshattering, just a point of interest. I guess not for you. I agree: the information that has come through Billy is the most voluminous, interesting and informative of what I've come across; which doesn't preclude me from sharing other things out there. Perhaps this is not the right forum for that. | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Randy, Re Mars If you or Wolfgang want to update your index spreadsheet, I have already listed the info I have come across in my message number 68 and 69. Regards Kaare | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 349 Registered: 10-2005 |
Wolfgang Froese passed away April 14, 2008 at his son's home in Berlin... he was mentioned in the most recent Stimme der Wassermannzeit. He visited my home for a couple of weeks in November of 2007 and he gave me the index to translate to English (it has been translated to ten languages so far) it is an index of all information on Billy Meier's works, whether they be periodicals, internet, the several books Billy has written, Semjase Contact vols 1-9, kitchen table discussions... etc. It was his intention to offer this for sale. His surviving wife Elvira (pronounced El Veera) deserves any procedes from that or any sale... Billy has a copy which I gave him last May. Have not heard from him whether he approves of it or not... It is currently in Beta test Vers 1a and there are about ten people in FIGU who have a copy. Their names and most of their addresses are required for updates and communication via snail mail. They were told to keep it to themselves and send proof read corrections to me in their native language and to NOT sell it or give it away. No one so far has offered a word of change or correction so you may see my frustration.  | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 10-2007 |
Rarena, Bulletin 50 has some good stuff on Mars pages 18-23 Corey | ||
Nguyen Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2008 |
Hi Wolfgang I see this from your post and I saw VietNam Dreden, can you provide me more information on Vietnam Dresden, thanks http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=14&page=2679 | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/20/mars-frozen-water.html Eureka! Water found on the Red Planet. Who would've thunk it !?  | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1613 Registered: 12-1999 |
Possible piece of wood found on Martian surface: http://thecrit.com/2008/08/05/nasa-mars-photo-leaked-wood-found-on-mars/ | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1245 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott.... Yes, very interesting! I think they have yet still.... very much to encounter, eh?? Edward. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1212 Registered: 02-2000 |
So after reading the new translations about Mars on Theyfly.com. The Sirians erased everything artificially created on Mars. This is very distressing. The UFO / Secret Gov't Cover-up Groups must be giving each other high fives. The Sirians just made life a lot easier for them. Now they can lie to us for the next 500 years. The Mars Artifacts were the one hope I had for breaking this Cover-up wide open one day. Now its squashed. I am pissed & sick over this news. I am getting sick of these Ets dictating our past, present & future. Its getting obvious the whole story hasn't been revealed to us & its the fact that we are quarantined from the rest of the universe & we really still are the Prison Planet. My Website | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1633 Registered: 12-1999 |
Well you can look at it another way. Billy and others will not be troubled by the MIB. Also, can you imagine if and when we get to Mars and our current scientists found this technology left by the earlier inhabitants, they would assuredly keep it from us, and more than likely use it against us, as they have done countless times already. |
