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Janimetso
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 02:30 am: | 
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Hello,
Billy's opinion (and what he has learned from the Plejaren), on the purported "end of the world", in an interview (from which one can also see a part of in the video of the UFO congress of 1999 in USA, translated to English by Michael Hesemann), for example, was that if Men learn to live in harmony with Creation and according to the laws of Creation, he will not destroy the planet.
In that same interview, if I understood it correctly, he was telling that the end of the world will come in some distant future because of our sun's processes. But before this, apparently, Man has left this planet to populate some other parts of the Universe. So there is no need to believe the numerous "doomsday prophets" and other ignorant and unwise, confused persons.
I understand, that this same future for our planet is also described in the contact notes, at least in the notes for the 251st contact.
Also, some information about this matter can be found from the article "The year 2000 and beyond ...", that can also be accessed via the FIGU website.
All these prophecies and predictions, however, do not mean that we should just book a trip to some exotic location and rest there for the rest of our lives, under the palm trees and on the sandy beaches, thinking only about candy dreams and marshmallows, and forget the cares of the world. We should, instead and of course, make sure to take care of what needs to be taken care of, plan our future and steer it towards a peace and wisdom, and to live our lives as they are meant to be lived, in a harmonious way according to the plans of Nature/Creation.
Not an easy task, I guess, but one which needs to be carried out.
Salome,
Jani
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Technod
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 01:23 pm: |
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i heard that one mile behind the wheel of the automobile equals one pound of CO2 released .
also not sure were this comes from "mabey here"that to help control the effects of the sun -storms/UVrays we could build out in space between sun and earth some sort of lens to lessen harmful energys.
whether that is good for nature or just us is another question.
brian
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Hector
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 04:17 pm: |
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Just like in UFO phenomena there are people that only want to spread confusion and lies,the same could be said related to global warming.Many "doctorate" physicist and dollar collectors like Michael Crichton state that greenhouse effect does not exist,and if it really exist,nature has her self curing abilities to balance it.They say global warming cannot be "scientifically" proven,at least at the moment.We will be able to measure it 50 years ahead.(When everything is poisoned),and you`ll need to wear masks to breath in the cities.Meanwhile,Kyoto Protocol seems to be a japanese PS2 game,the USA doesnt take it seriously,and my own country Spain has exceeded the emission limits by 33%.This is the typical example of politicians and leaders misusing the power we have given to them.Solutions? |
Junior
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:17 pm: |
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Dear Issie,
Sorry for the late reply, I was a couple of days off the emails and seems the forum is quite active, so I needed some time to catch up.
You have a very good point, you see there is a very fine line between global warming and global dimming, let me write you a part from what I understood from the BBC documentary, there was a test done on the temperature when all the planes in the US were halted on 9-11, Now the disturbing thing that was found is, if there are no clouds or pollution that would reflect some of the sun rays the temperature raised dramatically, other effect would be the two polar regions will melt much sooner if we considered lowering the amounts of chemicals that reflect the sun light like giant mirrors, I am sorry I don’t know the exact chemicals involved.
So if we care only on a point to stop the chemicals that result in the type of pollution that would create a so called giant mirror reflecting the sun light, and without considering the amount of sun rays that will get through from the sun, then the rate of global warming will be much more evident. And as I mentioned previously the temperature will be much higher then we could have imagined, with devastating effects.
If you do a bit more research and give it some time you will understand the issue.
Regards,
Peace to all, and one Love
Junior
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Isabellacoca
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:07 am: |
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Junior,
Thanks, It's a bit more clear to me and yes I'll look further into this so as to get an even more clearer picture. I would like to add, that I guess some of todays pollution is protecting us from the sun's harmful rays and hot rays, since we're depleting the ozone layer, which is it's job to protect us. I guess the thick cloud of pollution and stuff is a substitute for the ozone layer although the pollution is harmful to us too.
Thanks.
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Gicayhwh
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 06-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 03:07 pm: |
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Hello dear Isabella,
I never thought you could be so smart to realise the beauty into your speach. Speaking of beauty, who is better than you, my dear daughter?
Hope your trip to Boston will get you exited, and get me an email. I still live in Revere, 192 Shirley Avenue, a computer repair shop. I am doing O.K. by my self, very much missing you.
I hope to hear from you as soon as you can.
Forever loving you,
Your dad, Gica
gcoca0364@yahoo.com
Hello Gicayhwh,
Please be aware that when you post personal information that anyone in the world can view it. Also please understand this board is not for contacting family members on an ongoing basis. I have forwarded your information to Isabella through her e-mail account, and hopefully she will contact you via e-mail.
Regards
Scott-FIGU Forum Moderator |
Gicayhwh
Member
Post Number: 36
Registered: 06-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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Hello Scott
Sorry for my use of FIGU web page trying to get in touch with Isabella.
I will let the time work for me as it works for the rest of us trying to see Semjase.
True Love
Gica |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 393
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:33 pm: |
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Dear forum
I can't believe this idiot's rant, another paid lackey perhaps?
Such foolish rotten drool!
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive113.htm
Matt |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 460
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:04 pm: |
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Dear Matt,
These clowns often audaciously reveal the truth - in a sly double meaning - in the title of their disinformation: THE NONSENSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. Read: "Nonsense ABOUT Global Warming"
Jani King (An Act of Faith www.gaiaguys.net/janiking.htm) and Steven Greer (Hidden Truth www.gaiaguys.net/behindthescenes.htm recently did the same thing with their book titles. And who could forget “In the Dark with Randy Winters” ???!!! www.gaiaguys.net/randywinters.htm
But this guy’s animated .gif at the very bottom of his page reveals the underlying disease of his consciousness. He is belief-driven. The Plejaren say that 50% of global warming is anthropogenic and 50% is solar-driven, but Earth humans cannot understand that it can be both, they “think” it can only be one or the other, like the WTC Massacre, where the idea of multiple causes is rejected.
Salome,
Dyson |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 436
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 07:56 pm: |
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G'day forum members
In the documentary 'The inconvenient truth' Al Gore has done a decent job of putting his story forward in regards to global warming with a rich visual presentation of scientific data.
The lamentable fact is that the issue of overpopulation gets a brief mention and no more.
He has not addressed this almighty problem with a proposed solution but rather only expressed that it's part of the problem in global warming.
I don't know whether this was a presentation attempting to strip politics out or whether it was a presentation that passed the buck and onus on the political institutions to take up the challenge on this fight but Al Gore has not proposed a decent workable solution that gets at the root of the problem
http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/
Billy's answer is unequivocal
Overpopulation is the root cause
Only halfhearted measures in which Al Gore has proposed will do nothing to change the problem
Answer
You cannot expect the free energy to emerge for quite some time. For the next decades the use of the present forms of energy production will continue, as will the destruction of nature and the impact on the climate. And overpopulation, the biggest threat and evil of all, will continue. Over 100 million people are born each year, and the current population is more than one milliard/billiard higher than the census reports are claiming.
Because of the steady huge increase in human population, more and more new powerplants have to be built, and more and more energy will be consumed. Struggles to save energy (e.g. by building cars which are running on ever lower amounts of gasoline) are outstripped or outrun through the increase of new human beings who are demanding/needing energy, etc. etc.
So it was actually a big disappointment that with such an opportunity that Al had in addressing the problem, he had simply miss the mark.
The emphasis should foremost be overpopulation as the underlying problem with global warming and the cause of the destruction of the planets eco-system (WUV, 666, INDUSTRIALIZATION and OVERPOPULATION.)
cheers
Matt |
Jakes
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:01 pm: |
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Hello Matt,
Once a majority (51%) of the public agrees which of its constituents will not be permitted to procreate, then maybe the politicians will take up the banner of overpopulation. But the religions will have to be quashed before that happens. And I know of very few females who voluntarily forfeit their childbearing “rights”, and none who would tolerate the involuntarily loss of this childbearing “right”.
Just my 0.02 cents. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 446
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 07:18 pm: |
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G'day Jakes
Good point Jakes but as far as the 7 point birth check is concerned, I don't think any female person is forced to forfeit their rights to bear a child.
http://www.figu.org/us/overpopulation/index.htm |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 542
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 06:49 pm: |
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Hi guys,
The contact notes mention that in various countries, women (often selectively Jewish) are snatched off the street and forcibly sterilized by the Nazis currently in power in "Sweden*, France, Switzerland, USAmerica, Russia." It's been going on for years.
(Quetzal: sentences 91-96 in contact 216, March 16th, 1987, Book #5, pages 284 & 285)
Salome,
Dyson
*In Sweden alone, "more than 60,000" |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 450
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 09:24 pm: |
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G'day Dyson
My My, that is an extreme birth control measure
BTW how do you distinguish a jewish women from an arab or middle eastern appearing persons although most jewish people are white.
Maybe they have a master record or a consensus list.
cheers
Matt |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1100
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 03:41 am: |
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Global Warming |
Melli
Member
Post Number: 244
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:25 pm: |
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How to distinguish between jewish and arab descent people? tricky if you only see them rarely otherwise because I am amongst them almost everyday (and i also lived there half my life before arriving in aust.)I can see very clear resemblence and some differences too but the anglosaxon person would have indeed hard time to distinguish between them. In israel there was always a clash a race war one could say, between those who looked like europeans and those who came from the arab countries, and guess what? they illogically still refuse to admit that they are infact 'brothers' with the same ancestory, and who do you think control all aspects of this society today? As to the question of why some look 'white'? as far I understand and from material that i read way back before I found BEAM material, is that many travelled the world and "married out" (in disregard to their archaic laws so to speak) distinctly to the english aristrocracy because England was a very powerful Empire that dominated the arab world already centuries ago, and also to other highly prominant people in many diverse public institutions around the globe, thus positioning themselves in most prominent positions of power... well, the rest is history as we say. There are jews who look 'white' and who have blond hair and blue eyes as in my extended family, yet the irony is that they have no idea how this came about ???
But don't take just my word for it read between the lines become a closer observer and listen carefully....
Remember the advice that Ptaah is giving us? Peace on Earth will eventually come only when 'this people have become dispersed'... (sorry, I can't find the exact sentence from Gaiaguys translation)
I found this info on this 'most interesting' site,
www.savethemales.ca |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 04:20 am: |
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Dear Forum
Oh my these guys are definitely working for the disinformation cabal or they are simply misguided.
Global warming is a fact yet since it's bad for business, I am not surprised that such an article spearheaded by business interests would knock on people's consciousness to cloud the issue even further.
Such vile profit greedy scoundrels!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/090307warminghoax.htm
cheers
matt |
Robert_p
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 04:08 am: |
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Hello to everyone. And greetings to Billy, Christian and Scott. I am new to the forum and wanted to know what was the Plejaren insight is about the global warming situation and the technical aspects of the problem, could someone direct me to this information. As the moderator points out here "This is a forum about Global warming, not communicating with family members, or snatching Jewish, or some other women off streets and sterilizing them. Let's try to use our intelligence here, and really create a forum where people can ask questions and find answers, instead of creating and online coffee room. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1114
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 08:18 am: |
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Hi Robert,
Special Bulletin #32, has a some information related to Global Warming. You can access this English Translation at http://www.gaiaguys.net/meier.p6-11,13sb32.htm It is about 2/3's the way down the page. Our Thanks to Dyson and Vivienne Devine for this.
Regards
Scott |
Michael
Member
Post Number: 561
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |
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Robert,
You might also note that Meier published this - in 1951:
24. And also therewith overpopulation will bear the guilt, because over-population will become monstrously negative and will thereby give rise to an unnatural climate change that in only one decade from today will already begin to effect the world very detrimentally.
(See: http://www.gaiaguys.net/SFATH.PROPHECIES.1951.htm)
And this - in 1958:
54. Through the madness of his overpopulation, the human has already detrimentally altered the world and the climate in such a way that a climbing climatic warming becomes apparent that will be carried far into the Third Millennium and release monstrous natural catastrophes...
(See: http://www.gaiaguys.net/MEIER.PROPHECIES.1958.htm)
Michael Horn
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 579
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 08:43 pm: |
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Dear Robert,
Welcome! Good point about using our intelligence.
From now on, I’m gonna try really hard to look up at the top of the page I’m answering a question on and see if it is related to the topic shown there, not the question.
Before you wrote your question, my life-partner and fellow translator, Vivienne Legg, started going through a very early translation of ours (Feb 05) about the “apocalyptic” effects of runaway global warming. It was ostensibly about the Great Tsunami which took 359,796 lives, (as at 6:10PM December 31st, 2004), but quantified some of the climate change data too, so I now draw your attention to that here www.gaiaguys.net/specialbulletin16.htm
We still have work to do on this originally very primitive translation, but you should get the main gist already.
I append a short excerpt, below.
All the best,
Dyson
“And what the future yet further brings in regard to natural catastrophes can actually be designated as apocalyptic. And the Earth human has himself contributed very much to that, because an unbelievable 67 percent of the events in this regard lead back to him, and if he himself does not come to his senses as quickly as possible this percentage can still climb.” – Billy, December 31st, 2004 |
Mike
Member
Post Number: 51
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:03 am: |
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Dear Friends, some recent news to think about
Well here we go again, yet another meeting with thousands of leaders, politicians, delegates, scientists, press, and interested parties etc to “FIX” the global warming issue. No doubt many of them have flown in to Bali, especially in private / government jets and many fuel guzzling cars will take them to fine hotels and be in use for the duration of the 12 day conference. Have these people ever heard of teleconferencing?
“The U.N. estimates 47,000 tons of carbon dioxide and other pollutants will be pumped into the atmosphere during the 12-day conference in Bali, mostly from plane flights but also from waste and electricity used by hotel air conditioners.
If correct, Goodall said, that is equivalent to what a Western city of 1.5 million people, such as Marseilles, France, would emit in a day.
But he believes the real figure will be twice that, more like 100,000 tons, close to what the African country of Chad churns out in a year”.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/342281_bali05.html
Even pope Benedict XVI has gotten in on the act by attacking climate change prophets of doom (perhaps he is including Billy in that statement!).
Pope Benedict XVI states; “that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering”.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=501316&in_page_id=1811&ito=1490
“One last item must be mentioned here: Anything the Pope says is hostile to humanity and life, and must simply be ignored, therefore, His prattle is irrelevant. What he says is without actual correlation to the issues now confronting the world and humanity”.
Billy
http://us.figu.org/portal/SocialIssues/OverpopulationBomb/tabid/105/Default.aspx
As I understand from reading translated FIGU material (thanks to FIGU, and Gaiaguys [which is unfortunately offline at the moment]) the greatest cause of global warming / climate change is Human overpopulation and the ever increasing demands for energy, goods/commodities etc and actions thereof. I think this information written by Billy sums it all up pretty well, definitely worth reading, if only those thousands attending the conference in Bali could understand this information perhaps something positive could come about!
“Beyond a doubt, Man alone is responsible for the depletion of the ozone layer, the greenhouse effect and climatic changes on Earth – the larger the human population on Earth, the worse and more irremediable the situation becomes. Unquestionably, the climatic changes now evident will lead to increases in hurricane activity and other destructive natural events with catastrophic consequences”.
http://us.figu.org/portal/SocialIssues/OverpopulationBomb/tabid/105/Default.aspx
Salome
Mike |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 343
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:50 am: |
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Nuclear blasts in the open, "nucular" tests in the pacific and other areas (have also had a large influence on today's changing, chaotic weather patterns.
According to the Plejaren, our scientists still don't know anything about the sub-atomic particles which are set free after a "nucular" blast and affect negatively to vital processes like planetary magnetism, the ozone layer and the different layers of the earth atmosphere/stratosphere.It seems like after a "nukular" blast pandoras box is inmediately open, and such blast brings about painful changes, some of them can be witnessed (immediate destruction) but some other develop unwitnessed to the naked eye.An one of them is the change of normal wheather patterns to chaotic weather patterns.I recently uploaded a video about the Castle Bravo Hydrogen Bomb "nucular" test.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_hZlXijRg
Best regards |
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