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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 12:55 am: | 
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I didn't actually make any of that video, it is from the ending of a videogame called Final Fantasy X. All I did was get the video files and edit and encode the video. (and sorry for being so off topic)
If you want me to get the overpopulation petition on youtube I could do that easily, just what type of video should I make for it? By the way due to this being a bit off topic Adam you should reply to me at:
marksmanr@hotmail.com
Reece Stiller
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1318
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 03:29 am: |
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Hi Mark....
Yes, I had the same thoughts as you concerning the "Octopus woman" with
sixteen children.
Speaking of (Personal-ly) Collecting Cars...and now (Personal-ly) Collecting
children!
Scandalous!
"Materialist", in all ways, she is.
Truly NO responsibility the woman has. Saw her being interviewed and it did
not make much sense: her Personally...Collecting the babies/children. And the
most negative was, she even had problems concerning the foods and so forth, to
keep all those children alive. And here is where the social benefits come-in,
Tax-payers money. And some would disagree to such actions by the woman, and
she not be allowed to receive that support and benefits.
Edward. |
Marcela
Member
Post Number: 105
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:45 am: |
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I really think that this woman is mentally not sane. Some people accumulate objects, some animals, but this lady has chosen children as her obsession and she sees them as objects. This is a good example of why parenting should be regulated. I heard that people now will help her with a new house and a bunch of money. And this is so unfair for all those children that are born in poor homes, like these babies. They just should prohibit this kind of medical procedures.
Salome
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 612
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 01:14 am: |
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For those on this forum saying that the number of children and the number of wives allowed, etc. as mentioned by FIGU, are Creational laws, you are incorrect. These are in no way Creational laws because Creational laws cannot be broken. These numbers are suggestions and further might only apply to certain planetary situations. For example, the people on Erra live on a planet with the same approximate size as ours and this might be why they keep similar suggestions for themselves. This is only conjecture but my first statement stands and is absolutely correct. If a law can be broken, it isn't a law of Creation... |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 04:14 am: |
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Thomas didn't Billy Meier once say that the spirit stays in the fine matter world for about 152 years but because of all the overpopulation there is on Earth those laws are broken? I dunno... maybe I'm wrong. |
Marcela
Member
Post Number: 108
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:17 am: |
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Ramirez:
Well, I while ago I read that in average and under normal circumstances more women than men are born. I my country, the last census revealed more women than men, because we don’t practice selection of gender at all. What is happening now is that in China and India girls are aborted because those societies prefer to have male children. The result is that there is a shortage of females worldwide and life is being destroyed yet again by these practices. In my country indigenous people don’t practice abortion by gender, but as soon as they move to the cities, their mentality changes and who knows what is happening now. All I know is that in India and Chine this problem is known and there are laws against it, etc…What a shame for humanity.
Thomas:
I thought Billy said that it was a creational law about the wives and one husband. But I was wrong. Billy said that in nature one male has many females and also animals have one life-time partner. For example, the male deer has many females; on the other hand, parrots have one partner for the rest of their lives. There is not one case in nature where a female has more than one male partner. Billy always says that we need to look in nature for the creational laws, so I think this might be a natural law. Some many laws can be change and modified, nullified…this is another law, but some laws cannot be change at all… like changing the past..for example.
Salome
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 616
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hi Joe, since you are likely referencing that I said Creational laws cannot be broken, I will answer by saying that the time spent on "the other side" by the spirit form is not fixed and also therefore not a set Creational law. As you mentioned, the time is variable under varying circumstances. |
Thomas
Member
Post Number: 617
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 12:03 pm: |
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Hi Marcela, now I believe you have your information correct :-) |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1322
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 03:10 am: |
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Hi Joe....
Yes, I understand what you mean.
Indeed, because of the Global Overpopulation, reincarnations occur quite
SOONER than the known.... - The Standard Processing - of the reincarnation
cycle/mechanism.
Even This...IS within the framework of Creational Law! Simply said: Natural.
Even the Overpopulation of our Earth IS within the framework of Creational
Law(; Natural); but ONLY....executed in the WRONG manner. [Christian
mentioned similar similarity....once.]
TRUE Creational Law would mean to apply...TRUE Creational Values, and thus
Handle our actions within the TRUE framework of Creation. And not be 'sloppy'
in executing the Creational Laws...as we are doing, NOW...so to speak.
Edward. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 239
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:31 pm: |
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Dear moderators, friends,
Greetings to all in peace!
Here is a major update from Earth Policy Institute - before i rush to work!:-)
Earth Policy News - PEOPLE IN ACTION: Spreading the Plan B Vision‏
Briefly:
"The spirit of change is in the air as President Obama has taken office and is working for solutions to the problems facing America. He has called for mobilization in all communities to help remake the country.
One of the challenges the United States, and indeed the world, is facing right now is how to alleviate the mounting pressures on the environment, including climate change, dependence on oil, and the exploitation of natural resources. As Earth Policy Institute President Lester Brown says, “It depends on you and me, on what you and I do to reverse these trends.”
We have highlighted people who, inspired by Lester Brown and Earth Policy Institute, are taking action to build a better future for generations to come. Visit www.earthpolicy.org/Books/Reaching.htm for more examples.
*Seeing Plan B 3.0 as an inspiring, comprehensive blueprint for saving civilization, Colin Grant and his team at Vancouver, Canada-based software firm Visible Strategies have brought the book to life with their unique, visually-engaging SEE-IT software. Their interactive multimedia presentation allows users to quickly and clearly see the goals and strategies outlined in Plan B 3.0. See http://epi.visiblestrategies.com."
Further reading: http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/Reaching09.htm
Do have a nice day!
Salome,
Adam. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 241
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:36 am: |
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Greetings moderators and all members,
While going through the site of FIGU Society USA (gathering information and the necessary contextual understanding in order to properly translate some parts of the Birth Control Petition in German), i bumped into a Word of Mr. Billy Meier, which touched me profoundly.
I could not help, but wonder, whether all members of this forum are aware of this:
"Important Appeal
Dear readers,
Please copy and disseminate this booklet, A Crusade Against Overpopulation, as vigorously as you can, and do not forget to place your return address on the envelope.
Should you have perfect command of a foreign language, please translate the booklet text. We would appreciate receiving a copy of your translation and, along with it, your written permission for further use of the translation in case we require it.
It is important to disseminate this text worldwide. Indeed, only through this action will it ever be possible to publicize the fatal overpopulation problem. This action will also allow deliberate, international measures to be taken against overpopulation and against torture and capital punishment. (The pamphlet Torture, Capital Punishment and Overpopulation can be obtained from FIGU. It may be copied, translated and distributed as well.)
Please disseminate these writings to the best of your ability. Send copies of the texts to your relatives, acquaintances, friends, colleagues and associates; to physicians and scientists; to organizations of all types; to churches and sects that preach unrestrained human procreation; to environmental protection agencies and clubs of all types; to relief and peace organizations; to ministers, priests and clergymen; to radio and television stations, newspapers, journals, periodicals, tabloids and others; to the authorities, journalists, politicians, the military, legal authorities, schools and universities, attorneys, the government and all types of agencies; to private citizens, professors and officials; to businesses and corporations; to every Tom, Dick and Harry, and any other person of whom you may think. The overpopulation problem, along with the ensuing destruction of life on Earth and the planet itself, concerns all human beings, even those in the remotest and loneliest of hovels.
Please help us in our crusade against overpopulation and the destruction of all life on Earth. It is only through your help and that of every single person, that this suffocating monster and destroyer called overpopulation can be checked, reduced and normalized. This would permit life on Earth to once again become worthwhile for man and all other creatures, and the preservation of all life and the planet itself. The assistance of every single person is required for this task. If individuals participate and unite in this undertaking, the outcome will produce a gigantic mass and force capable of attacking and eradicating all ills on Earth. Nothing will ever be accomplished, however, unless each and every individual strives to fight against all current and future ills. In unity lies the strength to change and improve ills, i.e., when an individual ventures forth, undertakes a task and then meets like-minded persons; together they will slowly but surely form a great, vast force whose strength can then unfold. For this reason it is essential that every individual endeavors to act now and seeks like-minded individuals to powerfully attack all ills.
Please help us, as an individual human being, by backing the fight against overpopulation through your own actions, and standing up against the subsequent, already partially evident destruction.
Please support us in this task in every possible way.
Help us stop the destruction caused by overpopulation in accordance with the motto
"Save the Earth, life, plants, man and animals",
in the same manner that FIGU’s Active Alliance supports it.
An appropriate sticker may be purchased for CHF 1.00 from FIGU at CH-8495 Schmidrüti, Switzerland.
Time is of the greatest essence in effectively dealing with the rapid and explosive increase in overpopulation, and in controlling this most fundamental of all ills.
With your cooperation you support a campaign that disseminates the listed and pointedly demonstrated data and facts on overpopulation--a campaign that has mankind’s basic and total survival as its goal. The facts offered in the booklet illustrate and identify the progressive, rapidly deteriorating developments related to overpopulation.
Only when even the last Third World inhabitant of the remotest hovel in the bush is conscious of overpopulation’s meaning for himself and for mankind, and only when he is willing to then exercise common sense, may our campaign be looked upon as a success.
Please do not let matters rest after mailing and distributing only a few copies of the text. Continue to help us in our campaign by collaborating repeatedly with us throughout the coming years and decades.
Urge your children to do likewise so that they, too, will continue to carry on in the same manner.
We appeal to you as a human being, to distribute this text to the best of your capability by making it accessible to all of your fellowmen.
PLEASE NOTE: Many billions of people are in urgent need of this information!
Billy Eduard Albert Meier."
(http://us.figu.org/portal/SocialIssues/ACrusadeAgainstOverpopulation/tabid/102/Default.aspx )
I say: 'Yes, Sir!!!'
Salome. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 247
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 10:11 pm: |
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Greeting of peace and love to the moderators and all members,
The following is an update from Earth Policy, called 'HEALTH CHALLENGES GROWING'.
It draws a rather disturbing picture of the state of health of Earth population - as if Herr Meier didn't warn us enough! For decades!
The direct and 'collateral' damage of overpopulation is far reaching.
Salome.
"Earth Policy News - HEALTH CHALLENGES GROWING‏
From: Earth Policy News (Earthpolicynews@earthpolicy.org)
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:14:31 PM
To: aepsilonm@hotmail.com
HEALTH CHALLENGES GROWING‏
Health challenges are becoming more numerous as new infectious diseases such as SARS, West Nile virus, and avian flu emerge. In addition, the accumulation of chemical pollutants in the environment is starting to take a toll. While infectious diseases are fairly well understood, the health effects of many environmental pollutants are not yet known.
Among the leading infectious diseases, malaria claims more than 1 million lives each year, 89 percent of them in Africa. The number of people who suffer from it most of their lives is many times greater. Economist Jeffrey Sachs estimates that reduced worker productivity and other costs associated with malaria are cutting economic growth by a full percentage point in heavily affected countries.
Although diseases such as malaria and cholera exact a heavy toll, there is no recent precedent of a disease affecting as many people as the HIV epidemic does. To find anything similar to such a potentially devastating loss of life, we have to go back to the smallpox decimation of Native American communities in the sixteenth century or to the bubonic plague that took roughly a fourth of Europe’s population during the fourteenth century. HIV is an epidemic of epic proportions that, if not checked soon, could take more lives during this century than were claimed by all the wars of the last century.
Since the human immunodeficiency virus was identified in 1981, it has spread worldwide, leading to the deaths of more than 25 million people." [...]
Lester R. Brown
http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/Seg/PB3ch06_ss3.htm |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1348
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 03:32 am: |
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Hi Phenix....
Yes, excellent information!
MAN with his Global Overpopulation, WILL...indeed...Destroy himself!
[Generation: of Viruses and Plagues, etc...]
Similar, to which had occurred on other plants throughout the universe, as you
may know.
Even when it comes down to Man's Pervert Sexual Habits, which was the result
of the AIDS epidemic...and the related HIV. [Have know individuals whom pass
on by the mentioned; if they would have lived a more (Conscious and
Discipline) Humanly life style...than a 'leech-like' life style(as Semjase
stated), than perhaps they would still be alive and kicking! Their Free Will
and Self-Determination has alas directed them into the Wrong path, alas....
with a premature death.]
There is Consequences: Cause and Effect....to very aspect in the Material
World. And MAN....should indeed, be very Conscious of this Fact(of Life).
Edward. |
Schantz
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 11:44 am: |
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http://www.ajc.com/health/content/health/stories/2009/03/18/US_birth_2007_1950.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab |
Rarena
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Post Number: 420
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 02:01 pm: |
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It's not about the ozone layer or atmosphere problems... it's about too many people on this planet. We need a world-wide birth stop.
Ozone or oxygen with three molecules bonded together is surrounding the Earth to protect us from the Sun. The heavier variety generated by the auto and fossil fuels hangs around near us and effects our lungs negatively...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-ozone12-2009mar12,0,2086958.story
<<<nanosolar.com>>>
The atmospheric ozone which is ruined by bromine and chlorine due to too many people using chlorofluorohydrocarbons emitted from automobiles and other fossil fuels IS NOT THE REAL PROBLEM... By being destroyed more ultraviolet rays reach the earth and cause respiratory problems, skin cancer, Ozone levels are greater in LA because the cars are many but holes are forming at the poles... plants are dying at a phenomenal rate... Cars old refrigerators, air conditioners and hot tubs generate ozone depleting chemicals... which make breathing harder, ozone is very oxidizing (bleaching, acidifying... acid rain, global warming all are caused by this problem). As Billy and Ptaah spoke of... the main problem is as Nancy Pelosi mentioned: O V E R P O P U L A T I O N
Births are increasing at the rate of 100 million per year. The planet is not sustainable beyond 510 Million. That was 1900 levels... We are at 7.8 or 8.0 Billion people... US census claims six Billion but Plejaren sources claim with biograhm analysis confirmed 7.8 Billion on Dec 12 2007. They do not record those living underground. Please tell her or forward this and tell her she is absolutely on the right track according to our Swiss friend.
Here is a graph of Antarctic which is better than the North Pole:
http://jwocky.gsfc.nasa.gov/multi/oz_hole_area.gif
They don't show beyond 1993 because it would probably freak us out:
http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/education/class/vito/ozone.html#hole also I have not found the current data.
They used to be current but the hole is now very large: http://www.eoearth.org/image/Antarcticozonehole.jpg it has broken out and is getting closer to the equator...
It was on this page in real time, but they’ve taken it off it is so serious... http://sidc.oma.be/LatestSWData/LatestSWData.php#GEO
either that or it is in a different area that I'm not familiar... I have to watch the KP indexes for our surveyors team using GPS units rather they way us real men did it years ago... eh eh...
Here is how NASA measures it physically http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/EarthObservatory/EO_Study_SOLSE.htm
We can try to fix the ozone problem but it will cause other problems... Fix the overpopulation problem and all other problems will resolve naturally. Try hiking up Mt Tam and on the watershed and notice all the dead and dying trees... IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
Cure overpopulation you at the same time will prevent war, poverty, weather anomalies, under abundance, drought, hunger, suffering and quality of life. We need a worldwide birth stop to fix these problems not atmospheric scientists proselytizing about ozone levels and chlorofluorohydrocarbons... |
Creational
Member
Post Number: 251
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 08:36 am: |
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Dear members,
It is sad to see that there is merely a total of 64 people who signed Billy's "Petition For A Worldwide Controlled Birth Stop", posted on the webmaster; http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition
There is a total of 1054 members in this forum alone.
Other than a handful of members, there is literally no activities pertaining this most important issue.
It is wonderful that we have a chance to talk about issues here at the forum, but action is a thousand times stronger than mere words.
I am urging all members to take thier time and sign this petition if they have not done so already, and more importantly; please spread the word to as many people as they can.
salome,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Schantz
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 08:58 pm: |
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Zhila,
I have thought the same thing myself about the lack of signatures. This is the most important problem of our time, so you would think more people would take a few moments and sign the petition regardless of what real impact it will have. I'm not criticizing anyone for not signing it, but I think it shows how much of an uphill battle this issue is when we can't even get like minded individuals to sign a petition. Look at the amount of time and energy Billy and the FIGU devote to this issue, most recently Christian Frehner's in depth article which had to consume a great deal of his time. |
Syn
Member
Post Number: 159
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 05:27 pm: |
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comment deleted the current mindset of people today dont like the idea when they can be told to when they can procreate. not only that but people dont think 526 mil is a reasonable level.
besides who ever watched zeitgeist will think that population would not matter as much now. ofcourse this would be my opinion for zeitgeist. but zeitgeist addendum does provide very interesting and valid points. the reason population is such an issue is because we are not efficient. if we were to be more efficient and follow guidelines layed out similar to the venus project, we would not have such a severe collapse or social breakdown based on food/water as we currently do with our outdated production techniques. i cannot recall at the moment but peter joseph mentioned that there was a special way to grow food anywhere and very easy to mass produce. if we put this into action immediately we may be able to eliminate famine that is prophecized in the future and also from us classified docs showing a severe famine + drought taking place near 2020.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 253
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:54 am: |
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To member Syn,
Do pay attention to point 12(*):
www.thevenusproject.com
This new experimental city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:
1. Conserving all the world's resources as the common heritage of all of the Earth’s people.
2. Transcending all of the artificial boundaries that separate people.
3. Evolving from a monetary-based economy to a resource-based world economy.
4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.
5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, and agricultural and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and conveniently serve the needs of all people.
6. Evolving towards a cybernated society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management.
7. Sharing and applying all of the new technologies for the benefit of all nations.
8. Using clean, renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, and tidal power, etc.
9. Ultimately utilizing the highest quality products for the benefit of all the world’s people.
10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega-projects.
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
*12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
14. Eliminating any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.
15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.
16. Enhancing communication in the new schools so that our language and education is relevant to the physical conditions of the world around us.
17. Providing not only the necessities of life but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind, emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.
18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the possible changes that lie ahead.
Salome,
Adam. |
Schantz
Member
Post Number: 35
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 12:24 pm: |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/5015051/Food-and-energy-shortages-will-create-perfect-storm-says-Prof-John-Beddington.html |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 75
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 04:14 pm: |
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I guess you might have read the furore surrounding Papa Ratzi during his present tour of Africa.
Condom use is nein, verbotten, nyet.
Procreate, spread aids, die, leave plenty of orphans. 
Cheers.
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 725
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 07:19 pm: |
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*****
Indeed, 'Papa Ratzi' has gone beyond all logic.
It is past time for the vatican to return all the wealth
they STOLE from people over the Centuries,
and then to GO OUT OF BUSINESS ...  
*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Elreyjr
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 10:51 pm: |
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greetings,
on Zhila's post 251, could it be possible that the forum's system email the appeal to each of our 1,054 members? it might ring the "fire alarm bell" louder for those who care to act.
Jun |
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