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    Borthwey Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 09-2007 |
Hi Yoid You can also get the ebooks (pdf files) in Wendelle Steven’s site, they have other payment options. http://ufophotoarchives.com/new_ebooks.htm You will find there two versions of each of the first volumes: Version 1: MESSAGE FROM THE PLEAIDES, CONTACT NOTES OF EDUARD(Billy) MEIER Vol 1 MESSAGE FROM THE PLEIADES, CONTACT NOTES Vol 2 Version 2: MESSAGES CONTACT NOTES VOL 1 MESSAGES CONTACT NOTES VOL 2 The second versions are a different translation, with less grammatical mistakes but also a bit more adulterated. They also have many important parts missing/censored, which are present in the first versions. There also may be some mistakes in the first versions. I think that both on theyfly.com and ufophotoarchives.com they include both versions on the CD, anyway. Nevertheless, these are the only available translations for now and definitely a very relevant read. David | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 428 Registered: 10-2005 |
Yoid, All the items for sale on TheyFly.com usually arrive in good order or the company will replace them. I've purchased many things from there and never had any problem that would cause me to distrust... | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2008 |
If there will be an option to choose Visa,mastercard etc pay on theyfly.com...as other sites do. | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 763 Registered: 10-2000 |
Actually, there is a phone number for credit card orders and a mailing address for checks, etc. Michael Horn | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2008 |
Borthwey, could u please tell me whether version 2 are actually proper PDFs or are they scanned images? | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 106 Registered: 09-2007 |
Hi Joe All the volumes and versions are scanned images... David | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2008 |
sorry but can someone please tell me if it's normal to have missing pages in the W. Stevens Contact Notes? | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 09-2007 |
I don't know if there are missing pages but I remember that some of them are out of order; probably that's what you are referring to. If you search you will find the missing parts. David | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 367 Registered: 03-2004 |
hi there are some missing pages, some are repeated, somewhere it is explained that parts of the contact reports that Wendelle had were lost and so they are not included | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 06-2009 |
There were no sections dedicated to Contact Notes Vol 5-10. So I am posting this here. Moderators are free to move it anywhere else deemed suitable. Benjamin recently posted his "unofficial,unauthorized" translation of contact 215 in his myspace site. I recommend everyone to read it as it (IMO) throws some light on the misinformation/disinformation concepts doing round-trips in conspiracy sites. IMO it is obvious that these misinformation originators got a bit of info from either these beings themselves or from reading the German contact way back when it was first published. Quetzal speaks on Roswell and the greys "82. The type of consciousness is designed uniformly and collectively in each android, which means that all of the androids have a uniform consciousness form, and so, they are collectively like-minded, and thus, a collective form of telepathic communication is owned by them. " ...hive mentality of the Greys with mass telepathy "88. The bioorganic androids of the Reticulum people contain an authoritative programming in their artificial consciousness, which prevents that the artificial beings could ever rise over their designers, respectively their creators, but the time of their lives is limited to 300 years of devoted servitude to these." ...the greys report to their reptile masters in the draco system "91. In the manner in which they are biologically created, they are incapable of performing sexual acts and also of reproducing themselves." ...there was a terrible war which neutralised their reproductive power "93. Animation is provided by the artificial brain, which is constructed in such a way that it can absorb and use the cosmic-electromagnetic life energies, so that the existence of life is guaranteed. 94. It is this cosmic energy, by which the artificial life forms are animated and also made alive. 95. All this, however, couldn’t be recognized by all the doctors, surgeons, and pathologists, etc. in the American secret stations, where the crashed android beings were taken." ...the greys are a dying race in search of human souls Quite fascinating. Salome. Suv | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 373 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Smukhuti, You seem to have made some astute observations & connections. All that makes perfect sense. Amazing how just a few scraps of accurate information can neutralize a mountain of distortions and fabrications. Cheers. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 10-2009 |
Benjamin's translation of Contact 215 - "20. Due to the irrationality and irresponsibility of the genetic opponents, it will be that a lot of genetic progress for all humans, animals, and plants, as well as waters and air, and even for all of nature, will be prevented for many years, even though life could be prolonged by centuries through genetic engineering and just through the genetic manipulation of the person, by what means his health could be so stabilized, namely in a few decades, that he would almost never get sick." Wow, I feel this is directly aimed at me. So should I assume that everything I've learned about GM is wrong, that we should be eating it? Even though by all accounts GM foods actually reduces the size of your liver, heart and brain and decreases the ability of your immune system to work properly. I'm not as opposed to GM as I am to the sprays and chemicals used on them. I'm really torn on this one as I've thought that one of the reasons I don't get sick is because I try and eat as much organic as possible. Now I find that I'm nothing but a hindrance. That hurts - but I guess the truth always does. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 850 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Smukhuti (et al), It's important to remember that some of these early contacts - this on is 23 years old - which may be taken as the final word by people only now reading these software translations, have been updated and amended in more recent contacts. I cite so-called "crop circles" as a salient example. Vivienne and I did a translation of an update on the material about "the Little Greys" @ http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb34.htm I also think that Billy may have said more on the matter since then. Salome, Dyson | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 853 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Sheila (justsayno), The difference between herbicide-resistant GM crops (for instance) and the genetic research on Earthlings’ (creator overlords’-engendered) progeria is like the difference between night and day. GM crops are indeed dangerous. And it does strike me that Big Pharma might be DELIBERATELY generating bad publicity for genetic research in general by creating these Frankenstein foods. Get us cattle ignorantly against the exact (open) research which will extend our lifetimes, while – fully aware of our true history (through Billy’s German language publications) – the Frankenstein stuff goes on apace among the Dark Order. „Das ganze abgekartete Spiel der Gruppierung und ihrer Kleingruppen beinhaltet, wie anderweitig schon gesagt, auch fingierte Begegnungen mit angeblich Ausserirdischen, wobei diese wahrheitlich nichts anderes als normale oder zu ‹Aliens› umfunktionierte Erdenmenschen sind. „ (The entire pre-arranged game of the group and their small groups, as already said elsewhere, also includes faked encounters with alleged extraterrestrials, whereby these are truly nothing other than normal Earth humans or those who have been transformed into "aliens".) - Ptaah- Extract from the 441st contact report of Saturday, February 3rd, 2007 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meiersb34.htm And the Disclosure Project has a lot to say about the ACTUAL amount of technical progress in genetic engineering which goes on “behind the scenes”. Look for the yellow highlighting. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/behindthescenes.htm “Consider this for just a moment: There is a top-secret Canadian document, written by Wilbur Smith (see "Wilbur Smith Document" on page 441), which states that, in 1950, the UFO matter was the most secret project in the US, surpassing even the secrecy surrounding the development of the hydrogen bomb! In 1996, the secret is even bigger, and the resources used to maintain the secrecy many orders of magnitude greater than that of 1950. Moreover, the technological resources available to this covert project involve reverse-engineered ET technology, in the form of operational craft, non-linear communications capabilities, and biological "cloned" entities. It is not hard from this to see that extraordinary resources have been used to maintain the secrecy of this subject.” Dr. Steven Greer, Director of the Disclosure Project http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/DPETC-AllthatGlitters.htm In short, (open) human genetic engineering – YES! GM crops – (as they are currently) emphatically NO! Salome, Dyson | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 08-2008 |
Justsayno: in this world of industrialization and toxic additives for faster growing of food and cattle and faster exploitation of the land, seeking health via organic products is very wise, I do the same. The way I understand technology as a means for evolution is in cases where we could hopefully in the near future, buy a device for producing our own organic (stem-cell) cloned meat, and eat that protein instead of the produce of industrial crazy massacres we have daily I am all up for keeping healthy From all my research, it's down to: - eat organic (as much as possible) - don't overcook your veggies and eat lots of them - no sugars or dairy products - very low amounts of alcohol, since the problem with fermented drinks is the alcohol (i.e. acidic PH) - also, a lemon drink, no sugar, before bed helps Seems to be that, as long as we can keep our body alkaline, we will remain healthy and full of energy Problem with this diet is, it can be a bit restricting and boring too Comments most welcome -- Salome Carlos | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 353 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Justsay ; My opinion about the whole GM debacle is just that the science has to "grow through going pains" . The years will have to pass with whatever mistakes the scientists make in full public scrutiny , a "pressure against progress" ; somewhat like the state of affairs with our President ; except that in both cases , progress will happen anyway . In regard to the issue of GM chemicals , I'm sure that those problems will be worked out , with interference by special interests , money , and the ever present presence of power players , and their questionable motives . It can't be blamed on the philosophy of GM , in the same way that we can't judge socialism by past example ; but the ones in charge of the programs hold the true culpabilty , if the perfection of the GM systems don't come into focus . Kind Regards , Mark | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 368 Registered: 05-2008 |
Dyson, do you have a working link to "Knowledge and Wisdom Spell the End to Anti-Semitism"? | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi Justsayno again. I see what you mean now, in terms of this translation: "20. Due to the irrationality and irresponsibility of the genetic opponents, it will be that a lot of genetic progress for all humans, animals, and plants, as well as waters and air, and even for all of nature, will be prevented for many years, even though life could be prolonged by centuries through genetic engineering and just through the genetic manipulation of the person, by what means his health could be so stabilized, namely in a few decades, that he would almost never get sick. 21. Also plants, fruits, and vegetables, as well as other food products, could already be so genetically altered in a short time for the welfare of humans that ample benefits would arise from it, but the irresponsible, irrational and, thus, the gene-negating ones will work against this with lies, deceit, and fear, by what means the actual successes of genetic engineering will also have to wait a long time for themselves, for when the first actual successes are achieved, from which the people will benefit – often not even knowing that their food or medicines are genetically engineered and are only actually useful and healthy because of this." I know what you mean now. I am also in cross-roads as to wether some of the GM produce in the market today is actually better for health, than organic disease prone ones. I don't know. -- Salome Carlos | ||
Techieatwork Member Post Number: 38 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi Justsayno: Allow me to send you yet another bunch of ideas on this regard, since, this topic strikes at me too. You said, you don't mind the GM as much as the chemicals they spray on them I concur. I think (need to review this) that ozonizing the veggies & fruits removes the chemicals I will check on this again, since it's of utmost importance for me too -- Salome Carlos | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 854 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Earthling, Used to be here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/ENDAnti-Semitism.htm http://www.theyfly.com/gaia/ENDAnti-Semitism.htm Maybe James & Michael had it hacked off by anti-Semites? Better ask. It used to be other places on the WWW too, but they're gone as well. ???????? Salome, Dyson | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 181 Registered: 06-2009 |
Dear Dyson, Yes, Roswell is further mentioned in many contact reports especially 251 and 424 and more reports yet unknown to the english speaking world. I agree with you that the GM crops are not useful they way they are because of the immature techology/methodology that we follow or the agents that are added during the process. I just feel the non-GM to GM conversion in countries like U.S. has been too swift. For example, how these GM crops interact with nature and with other non-GM crops is not well known to general public. The ramifications are large since a "defective" GM crop in unrestricted environment may pollinate with a non-GM crop. Then what happens? What are the dominant genes? What effect it has on the birds and insects and animals? And the humans who consume them? Is there any mutation? How fast the mutation spreads? What is its effect on our natural immunity? But still I feel, it should not stop us from researching on GM crops and refine the technology. For example, we can increase the nutrient value of the vegetable, we can make them self-preserve to a longer duration or make them provide us with animal protein or make them adapt to warmer or colder weathers (that we are experiencing as a result of global warming). Salome. Suv | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 143 Registered: 09-2007 |
Regardless of the genetic manipulations performed therein, GM products are just as "natural" as anything else. They can't be found in Nature in that form, but their entire composition stems from it. Just the same as most of what we eat, be it plant or animal, which results from centuries of cross breading and selective breeding. If some of the currently generated GM crops require additional treatment via chemicals, that's another thing. It's possibly related with the commercial interests (i.e. excessive greed) that are plaguing this whole matter and giving rise to abuses. In principle, GM, healthy, and "organic" should go hand on hand, due to the increased resistance to insects which makes the use of pesticides unnecessary. David "There can be no tyrants where there are no slaves." José Rizal | ||
Jonzie Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2009 |
Smukhuti, I have a few questions if you have a moment. I failed to find where it said they have reptilian masters. I also failed to find where it says there was a war that left them sterile. I am reading that the Greys were created without gender on purpose as a way for their creators to control their population and stop them from possibly overthrowing their creators. Where did you find these two ideas, please? I missed it somehow. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." |
