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    Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 07-2017 |
A little of a lot of wisdom: 472. When a human descendant steps out of their childhood stage, when they have obtained the laws and recommendations for the leading of their worldly life through their parents, then they are fully on their own and therefore reliant on themselves alone. 473. Therefore, he/she has to master his/her life themselves and also live according to this unwritten law. 474. Therefore he/she is autonomous. 475. Their back-connection with their parents rest in them only as knowledge and certainty that they were their progenitors and granted them a certain upbringing. 476. An upbringing that embodies nothing other than fundamental laws and recommendations in all things that should guarantee a regulation. 477. But if the parents commit the error that they educate their descendants with irrational teachings, then these become anchored in him/her and he/she becomes dependant on them throughout his/her life and thus dependant. 478. Their initiative for their own evolution is thus taken away from them already at the beginning of their existence. Arahat Athersata pp. 128-130. Andrew Grimshaw - The Quiet Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 12-2019 |
Pages 114-116 of AA, verses 386 - 391 are clear. Then verse 393 states: "When a new spirit is created by the union of two different onenesses which are in themselves autonomous, the new spirit then integrates itself into the creational regulation." I thought the spirit is just a part piece of the Creation ??? Can someone please explain this. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1381 Registered: 08-2010 |
Norms, That's a really good question. Note to everyone: *Do not accept the following as conclusive, it could have mistakes or be incomplete in the effective understanding; This is why it is important to contemplate and fathom oneself in order to obtain the highest prize and evolution through the cognitions. The spirit(form) is certainly (logical) a part-piece of the Creation, whereby the Creation itself evolves... this itself is a hyper-oneness. On page 114, line 388 lays the foundation (example) of the hyper-oneness that makes up the human being. So the hyper-oneness are the parents that procreate the offspring. The parents as a oneness unto themselves are completely autonomous, but as parents (procreating), they both (together) are a hyper-oneness. The creational idea for the spirit(form) is the same in principle (as I am understanding it). To me, the explanation by Arahat Athersata pertains to the fundamental creational idea for the Spirit, so that it can be recognized (registered) by any human being who makes the effort and has the interest in understanding the very basic fundamental construct and potential of the Spirit. It should be understood that this explanation by Arahat Athersata is in no wise a thorough detailing or outline of the whole (complete) construct of the Spirit itself... Arahat Athersata knows the Prophet has put forth the thorough and instructive explanation regarding the whole (totality) of the construct and functions of the spirit and the consciousness. The spirit(form) itself is a hyper-oneness in the sense of the power and the learning. I would suppose that the function (two-part oneness) of the spirit is its power to animate and its creational regulation based need (drive) to learn (gather knowledge) and evolve (lines 396-397). Another hyper-oneness can be understood in the fact that the spirit(form) evolves, in union of a sort with the Creation, wherein the Creation itself evolves. In this case, the Creation itself and the spirit(form) are a oneness themselves and are each autonomous, wherein the Creation evolves from the gathered knowledge from all its creations and the spirit(form) gathers knowledge from its own experiences (lines 392-395). It would be good to fathom and contemplate creational laws pertaining to the hyper-oneness because the hyper-oneness is integrated into every creation (line 385)... For example: the hyper-oneness between the sun's radiation and the leaves of plants (photosynthesis), the hyper-oneness of the photosynthesis and the roots of plants, the hyper-oneness between the roots and the biology in the soil (these are the ones that actually (should) feed the plants), the hyper-oneness of the molecule H2O (water)... The hyper-oneness is easily recognized because it is integrated into everything that exists... this is why Arahat Athersata used the example of the human life-form in line 387. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2644 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi norms I don't know where your confusion happened to ask such a question but these passages as far as I can understand is giving example about the material life in order to convey how similar a process it is for the new spirit as well. 391. The newly conceived life thus forms itself within the laws and recommendations of the brazen regulation. 392. Now as this example serves for the material life, so it is also in line with the creation of the spirit. 402. So likewise for the new spirit; it learns and evolves; it gathers knowledge, ability and wisdom. Matt lee | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 75 Registered: 12-2019 |
398: When a new spirit is created by the union of two different onenesses which are in themselves autonomous, the new spirit then integrates itself into the creational regulation. What are the two onenesses, which are in themselves autonomous, that when combined form the "new" spirit? @Eddieamartin, an evolving spirit that is still in the phase of knowledge and wisdom acquisition is contained within the Creation so that the Creation is conscious in real-time of any new knowledge or wisdom that is being acquired and will actually observe with increased attention and interest. Once, a spirit merges back into the Creation, the only difference in the entire Creation is that that spirit is no longer distinct from the Creation. Can make this statement from direct experience with me instantiating copies of myself (my spirit) to investigate multiple phenomena of interest so that each copy makes unblinking observation on one phenomena only while the parent samples the experiences from the copies in real-time. The copies themselves can also instantiate copies as needed. Once the observation is complete, a simple command has all the copies re-integrating into the parent. This is what is transpiring from one moment to the next between the Creation and all the distinct spirits within the Creation! This experience is an observation not only of myself but also an distinct Consciousness observing me together with many many spirits who become conscious of this Consciousness. This Consciousness has two noticeable attributes: 1. an absolute unbiased attention and interest observing for something new. 2. the fine-matter eyes within which are glittering points of golden light at the centre of the eye and what lines the entire so-to-speak retina. Each point of light radiating the wisdom of a King of Wisdom. You can actually sense this looking into the eyes. @Newinitiation, my understanding of a new spirit is stated in verses 396 - 398 of AA on page 116: 396: These laws and recommendation contain only the knowledge that the evolution must be observed but no other knowledge and ability, because still fully inexperienced, it must first gather values of the knowledge and ability through the learning. 397: So, therefore the Creation does not give to the new spirit any knowledge and ability at all, except the knowledge of the laws and recommendations, for how could the Creation relatively absolutely fulfil itself if it were to indulge itself in the knowledge and ability that it already possesses? 398: It would thereby destroy itself. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1382 Registered: 08-2010 |
Norms, Sorry but I can't understand what you wrote. But either way, best of luck with your enquiry. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 844 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Norms I presume that the term “New Spirit” means a human spiritform is formed for the first time. Human spiritform is different to other spiritform types, it is created only when two units (onenesses) are in union, e.g. The Unconscious-Evolutive Spirit-Consciousness Spiritform and the Comprehensive Consciousness Block. http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Death,_Afterlife_and_Rebirth#Structures_of_the_Spiritual_Realm Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 885 Registered: 07-2006 |
Savio, Your understanding of a New Creation-created spirit-form (Creation-energy-form) is almost backwards. It is the new spirit-form (Creation-energy-form) that creates both the Overall-Consciousness-Block and the Consciousness-Block, the type depending on the type of life form it, the spirit-form (Creation-energy-form) first incarnates into.. A new spirit-form (Creation-energy-form), which is created from a creational idea, is endowed with a basic-individual-consciousness, that has the ability to developmentally change itself and develop in accordance with the life-form into which it for the first time is drawn into, to inhabit and animate. At this point it is neutral pure creational-energy and is knowledgeless. When it FIRST incarnates into a life form (Wesen) the spirit-form (Creation-energy-form), depending on the type of life-form, creates an Overall-Consciousness-Block and a Consiousness-Block appropriate for the life form it first enters into. Single/multi-cell organism & plants - Overall-Impulse-Consciousness-Block & Impulse-Consciousness-Block Animals - Overall-Instinct-Consciousness-Block & Instinct-Consciousness-Block Human Being - Overall-Conscious-Consciousness-Block & Conscious-Consciousness-Block See also my Incarnation/Reincarnation Process drawing at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/Reincarnation-Incarnation-Process-sec.pdf This is also explained here: My translation (may contain errors) of an excerpt from the book: Teaching Script for the Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Creation-energy, Teaching of the Life (Lehrschrift für die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre der Schöpfungsenergie, Lehre des Lebens), by 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier Question 97: In regard to the plants, the animals and the other creatures, and indeed from the most minute to the greatest, which indeed, are non-human nature, it behaves itself in the same frame concerning the neutral and without knowledge spirit-form, because fundamentally these spirit-forms from their origin are of uniform and absolute neutral nature and therefore not specifically distinct for human beings, animals and all other creatures as well as for the plants. Each individual still as unused creation-created new spirit-form is thereby endowed with a basic-individual-consciousness, that has the capability, to developmentally change and to develop itself in accordance with the life form in which they for the first time enter and this inhabit and animate. Therefore when a new spirit-form enters for the first time into a human being, then the basic-individual-consciousness itself evolves as creational-human spirit-form, through which also a conscious material consciousness comes about, consequently the human being is able in conscious-consciousness to develop itself. However when a new spirit-form enters for the first time into an animal or into any other creature, then the basic-individual-consciousness forms itself in accordance with the genus and species the animal or the other creature into a corresponding instinct-consciousness, which accordingly in instinct-based develops itself further. When a new spirit-form enters for the first time into a plant, then the basic-individual-consciousness forms itself to an impulse- consciousness, which likewise further develops itself. Everything else, that does not exist in visible liveliness, like e.g. stone, water, radiation, swinging wave and gas as well as elements, atoms and quarks, etc., naturally also determine over a spirit-energy, which is however of an entirely different nature than the spirit-form of the human beings, the animals, other creatures and the plants. These forms of existence are provided from the basis with an energy-consciousness and given for all time in the material realm, while entirely all neutral and unknowing spirit-forms with a developmental change-capable and capable of developing basic-individual-consciousness in an universal-all-embracing group from the basis are given by the Creation and is established on each planet, that begins to bear life, in order to on this (planet) inhabit and animate the life forms. In bezug auf die Pflanzen, die Tiere und das Getier, und zwar vom winzigsten bis zum grössten, die ja nichtmenschlicher Natur sind, verhält es sich im gleichen Rahmen hinsichtlich der neutralen und wissenslosen Geistform, denn grundsätzlich sind diese Geistformen von ihrem Ursprung her von einheitlicher und absolut neutraler Natur und also nicht speziell bestimmt für Menschen, Tiere und alles Getier sowie für die Pflanzen. Jede einzelne noch als ungenutzte schöpfungsgeschaffene Neugeistform ist dabei mit einem Grund-Individual-Bewusstsein ausgestattet, das die Fähigkeit hat, sich gemäss der Lebensform zu wandeln und zu entwickeln, in die sie erstmals einzieht und diese begeistet und belebt. Zieht eine Neugeistform also erstmals in einen Menschen ein, dann entwickelt sich das Grund-Individual-Bewusstsein als schöpferisch-menschliche Geistform, durch die auch ein bewusstes materielles Bewusstsein zustande kommt, folglich sich der Mensch bewusst bewusstseinsmässig zu evolutionieren vermag. Zieht eine Neugeistform jedoch erstmals in ein Tier oder in irgendein Getier ein, dann formt sich das Grund-Individual-Bewusstsein je gemäss der Gattung und Art des Tieres oder des Getiers zu einem entsprechenden Instinkt-Bewusstsein, das sich dementsprechend instinktmässig weiterentwickelt. Zieht eine Neugeistform erstmals in einer Pflanze ein, dann formt sich das Grund-Individual-Bewusstsein zu einem Impulsbewusstsein, das sich ebenfalls weiterentwickelt. Alles andere, das nicht in sichtbarer Lebendigkeit existiert, wie z.B. Gestein, Wasser, Strahlung, Schwingung und Gas sowie Elemente, Atome und Quarks usw., verfügt selbstverständlich auch über eine Geistenergie, die jedoch völlig anderer Art ist als die Geistform des Menschen, des Tieres, Getiers und der Pflanze. Diese Existenzformen sind von Grund auf mit einem Energiebewusstsein versehen und im materiellen Bereich allzeitig gegeben, während gesamthaft alle neutralen und unwissenden Geistformen mit einem wandlungs- und entwicklungsfähigen Grund-Individual-Bewusstsein in einem universumumfassenden Pulk von Grund auf durch die Schöpfung gegeben sind und sich auf jedem Planeten festsetzen, der Leben zu tragen beginnt, um auf diesem die Lebensformen zu begeisten und zu beleben. ------------------------------------- NOTE: the term "Comprehensive Consiousness block" is no longer used. See: http://dict.figu.org/node/156 ------- overall consciousness-block Willem Mondria - Wed, 11/26/2008 - 15:57 English Notes: The former term used was comprehensive consciousness block. Billy stated that the term "overall consciousness-block" was a better translation for "Gesamtbewusstseinblock". English Description: Storage bank in the other world, created by the spirit form. Place where the consciousness-block is dissolved and a new one built up -> death-life Hope this helps, PatM | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1383 Registered: 08-2010 |
Thank you Patrick! That helped me fill in where I had a feeling I was lacking some information. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2648 Registered: 07-2005 |
I don't think any forum member here can answer you question norms as nobody knows other than Billy and the plejaren. I have yet to come across any information regarding how spirit is created by Creation. Matt lee | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 845 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi PatM Thank you for the detailed explanation that contributed a clear picture on the incarnation/reincarnation process of human spiritforms. Yet, we still need a clear picture on the following sentence: 398: When a new spirit is created by the union of two different onenesses which are in themselves autonomous, the new spirit then integrates itself into the creational regulation. Can you please share your understanding on the above sentence? Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1347 Registered: 04-2013 |
Norms, your question, "What are the two onenesses, which are in themselves autonomous,..." In short, the two onenesses are the parents of the new born human being. Kenneth | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 886 Registered: 07-2006 |
Hi Savio, RE: "398: When a new spirit is created by the union of two different onenesses which are in themselves autonomous, the new spirit then integrates itself into the creational regulation." (note 398 is not the correct numbered sentence, should be 393) I am uncertain of the two different onenesses, specifically what they are... The only other thing I have found regarding the creation of a New Creation-created spirit form is found in FIGU Special-Bulletin No. 103, Reader question #4, pages 10 - 11 See: http://au.figu.org/content/Question%20About%20the%20Ur-cell%20(LUCA).pdf specifically Question #4 --------------- 4. Question: Each life form possesses a spirit form which at one time incarnated into it for the first time as a new spirit form. How is it determined whether a new spirit form incarnates into a certain life form or whether a spirit form reincarnates into a certain life form? Answer: There is no determination for a spirit form incarnating into a certain life form, rather only a determination into which genus/species a spirit form re-incarnates. The facts and circumstances for it are these: Around each planet and in the entire universe exists the creational-spiritual-energetic mass, from which each 1x10^-18 sized spirit form arises for each material life form. The spirit form, through which individuals are enlivened, from the very beginning forms according to the corresponding life forms, when it enters, that is to say births into a life form as only a tiny new spirit form, that is to say, as a neutral-positive tiny-little spirit-form-mass. The entire great mass of the spirit-form-agglomeration (fullness), which encompasses, that is to say fills and comprises all planets and world-space-objects and the entire universe, exists in its own universe-wide spiritual-energetic sphere, however in its Ur-condition is absolutely neutral-pulsating and inactive. In this form, the entire spirit-form-mass lies idle and was never before bound to a life form. A bonding of a spirit-form-agglomeration to an undetermined life form arises only when a 1x10^-18 sized separation of spirit from the entire neutral planetary and universal spiritual-energy-mass, takes place. Hence a 1x10^-18 sized separation of spiritual energy arises from the entire planetary, that is to say universal spirit-form-energy and forms a new spirit form, only if a new life form of any genus or species must be ‘inhabited’ by a new spirit form. If this is the case, then the new spirit form, as a neutral spirit-form-energy / spirit-form-agglomeration which never incarnated or reincarnated prior to this, births into the new material life form, which can belong to the first genus or species that comes along. The 1x10^-18 sized new-spirit-agglomeration is invisible and when it births, that is to say incarnates for the first time into a brain of an individuum – regardless of which genus or species – then it immediately attunes itself harmoniously to the life form concerned and ‘programs’ itself so to speak to the individuum concerned. That is, if a neutral spiritual-energetic mass, which is 1x10^-18 sized, births, that is to say incarnates for the first time as a new spirit form into a human being, then, via impulses, it is identified as human spirit form and remains one for all time. On the other hand, if a neutral new spirit form enters into another life form of another genus or species, such as into an animal, a reptile, a bird or fish, then it ‘programs’ itself thereupon and as a result becomes the spirit form of an animal, reptile, bird or fish. Hence the new spirit form assimilates the first form of individuum which it enlivens, in order to then repeatedly reincarnate into a similar individuum after each passing of the respective life form. The new spirit form, which has begun to evolve via impulses through the first incarnation in the individuum, is therefore henceforth integrated into the same individuum-line and reincarnates only in this line. Each neutral new spirit form incarnating into a brain of an individuum for the first time is therefore in each form absolutely neutral, consequently also neither masculine nor feminine, however absolutely specifically attuned to a certain life form and individuality and its progressive line of life. However it is only when the spirit form enters into the brain of the individuum and enlivens it – in the case of human beings in the ‘roof of the mesencephalon’ = optic tectum = superior colliculus – because a living brain requires this, that the human spirit form develops in the corresponding necessary form. And so, in the case of the human being, the spirit form is labelled human spirit form, in the case of other life forms, correspondingly as animal, wildlife, android or other necessary spirit form organised according to the individuum. Only through the entry of the 1x10^-18 sized new spirit form, that is to say spirit-form-energy, into the brain of an individuum for the first time, does it therefore accordingly develop into the life form and the spirit form belonging to it and is named according to its species. ------------------ The specific question regarding what the two different onenesses are (as referenced in 393. When a new spirit is created by the union of two different onenesses which are in themselves autonomous, the new spirit then integrates itself into the creational regulation.) should probably be directed to FIGU. Sorry I couldn't give you the specific answer you are looking for. @Norms: your response "In short, the two onenesses are the parents of the new born human being." is only correct for the newly created human Wesen which the spirit-form will reincarnate into and the Consciousness-Block will incarnate into. Hope this helps PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 887 Registered: 07-2006 |
The queue (FILO - first in last out) will probably put this first, however, it should follow my next post. Another note regarding the new creation-created spirit-forms on the earth: From FIGU Bulletin No. 75, Reader questions, pages 5-6: Reader question Are there today on the Earth (in this life) new spirit-forms in great number or amount, when we consider today's overpopulation,? Michal Dvorak, Czech Republic Answer No, there are not. The Plejaren estimate that approximately 120 thousand-million spirit-forms are integrated into the reincarnation-cycle of the Earth , which means, that in the realm of the other world a very large number of spirit-forms are found, which are already very much further developed than new spirit-forms. The Earth is already beyond the stage, in which still pure new spirit-forms are able to incarnate on it. From the outset already a great many different spirit-forms incarnated on the Earth. In addition it is also thus, that a great number of spirit-forms 'immigrated' to the Earth, because it happened occasionally that large amounts of immigrants from foreign planets died on the Earth and their spirit-forms have integrated themselves here into the cycle of the terrestrial human beings. Also in addition came still the spirit-forms of the former planet Malona, which had to seek a new homeland after its destruction. Because they, at that time, were not very far ahead in their evolution of the earth-human being at that time, i.e., as these were approximately equally as far, these spirit-forms also regulated themselves into the cycle of the earth-human beings, which means, that on the earth thus also spirit-forms of the former planet Malona reincarnate. Bernadette Brand, Switzerland Hope this helps PatM | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 12-2019 |
@Kenneth, GOT Chapter 6 verse 108 page 217: But as you transform (manipulate the genes of) growths (plants) in their growing and their yield, as well as transforming (manipulating the genes of) animals and other creatures and you modify (breed) them, then you cannot raise yourselves up as gods and tin gods or place yourselves at the side of the primal wellspring of all vitalities (Creation), because it alone is given the might to create out of itself created creations (creatures/creations/life forms) of all species and forms; people of your kind (human beings), however, are created creations (creations) of the primal wellspring of all vitalities (Creation), therefore you are integrated into its laws and recommendations, so you can only bring forth (create) new created creations (creatures/creations/life forms) and growths (plants) through transformation (gene manipulation) and change (breeding) as is permitted to you through the laws of the primal wellspring of all vitalities (Creation). ... working on a solution but need to do some checking... | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1384 Registered: 08-2010 |
Regarding line 393 of page 116 in the book Arahat Athersata. An explanation from Christian Frehner: Hi Eddie I see a language problem with the use of the term "Einheiten" translated as "oneness". You probably have another understanding of "oneness" than I have of "Einheiten". Just as in the material world an ovum and a sperm must unite to build a hyper-oneness, the same principle applies for a "new spirit", i.e. the "new spirit" is created based on a balanced union of negative and positive polarity (energy), from which neutrality results. But of course the whole explanation in the book is formulated according to the understanding of terrestrial mankind, because in reality everything is occurring on a swinging-wave-based energy level, a process we cannot understand with our limited, material brain capacities. The whole process belongs into the "realm" of Creation-energy. Salome, Christian Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 846 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi PatM and Eddie Thank you so much for the explanation and information  Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2019 |
@Eddieamartin, Now having read AA, that explanation is correct. Fine-matter forms have corresponding material values. | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 09-2021 |
Tat_tvam_asi, Kenneth and Phi_spiral: On page 260-262 of Arahat Athersata the teacher writes: “238.Through thinking with strong feelings, the human being unceasingly mobilizes the forming and shaping power of his/her thoughts, which then fertilize his/her fundamental thinking and deeds accordingly and, due to their affect, bring forth the evoked consequences. 239. If the once adopted thinking direction is pursued further, then more and more things, circumstances and Wesen put themselves at the service of the thought-realization. 240. Consequently, an affirmation of the life and of a success of it is therefore of the upmost importance, for what the human being intends in thoughts regarding a good and healthy mode of thinking is fundamentally decisive and of the greatest significance. 241. This is the most reliable and only means, namely that the human being with all his/her circumstances and things goes in the right way of thought because I only right thinking weeds to truth and to the success. 242.The human being only has to allow him/her self to be instructed in this. 243.From the vantage point of the human being, no time should be thereby wasted on using the power to look for suitable helpers. 244.Their own thoughts them selves must to the groundwork so that the body of thoughts or orderly and directed towards the right lines. 245. One’s own thoughts are ones on helpers,Which are able to create enough substance in anytime, with with the thinking can be driven forward. 246. The tremendous power of the thoughts has not only been discovered in the present time, even though it’s right use is as good to the new human being today because for them, everything has been pushed into the past. (•ahem...F.e) (VVVVV) “247. This knowledge therefore appears to him/her as a book with seven seals.” Now, what this says to me is that Billy has already Cracked the seven seals, through incredibly difficult and tremendous groundwork. Ok, so now it’s up to us to crack the internal seals within each of us. He has devoted his life to the Mission. Why would he mention it otherwise? This almost goes without saying it is so obvious. s.l. F.e -Ziffe a thire z da Ummi! | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2019 |
AA p.346 v.74: This task and mission lies therein that he/she recognises and acknowledges the origin, the value and the BEING of his/her spirit and relatively absolutely fulfils it for the purpose of further evolving the Creation itself through the later conscious becoming-one with it when the spirit has attained its relative absolutely full development. My understanding of "through the later conscious becoming-one with it" means the spirit completely reflects the knowledge and wisdom of the Creation so that there is no more distinctness with the Creation implying a becoming-one with it. So I'm not clear on the terms "... when the spirit has attained its relative absolutely full development." Please explain. | ||
Norms Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 12-2019 |
AA p.354 v.108 Every world-body was and is created according to exact measures and this means that which each life form, only very definite number of life forms can exist on the individual world-bodies without them running into any danger. Does the bolded "them" refer to the life forms only or both the life forms and the world-bodies? | ||
Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hello Norms, My understanding of "through the later conscious becoming-one with it" means the spirit completely reflects the knowledge and wisdom of the Creation so that there is no more distinctness with the Creation implying a becoming-one with it. The spirit-form, or Creation-energy-form, can't reflect the whole knowledge and wisdom of Creation, because it is only a tiny part of it. And it wouldn't be possible, because Creation is also evolving constantly. The spirit-form only contributes what it has gathered by itself regarding knowledge, wisdom, etc. So I'm not clear on the terms "... when the spirit has attained its relative absolutely full development." The spirit-form eventually reaches a point where it has to merge with the Creation in order to continue evolution, as per the creational law of evolution. In this sense, it has fulfilled it's purpose and has learned everything it can learn, and is therefore 'absolutely fully developed' but only relatively, because evolution and progress has to march on. The 'goalpost' keeps moving forward, so to say. Does the bolded "them" refer to the life forms only or both the life forms and the world-bodies? I think it is referring to the life forms, because a planet can easily protect itself from harm e.g. overpopulation. Eventually it will restore itself when given enough time, and the problematic life form(s) will be left in the dust. But it is open for other interpretations. Just my thoughts, do not accept them as truth. Salome, Niko | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 155 Registered: 04-2020 |
Friteeucman: “247. This knowledge therefore appears to him/her as a book with seven seals.” Ok, so now it’s up to us to crack the internal seals within each of us. He has devoted his life to the Mission. Why would he mention it otherwise? The context of the passage in AA, which you cite, is of "thoughts" - its' control, might and mastery as it pertains to consciousness evolution. Throughout the teachings, The Law of Seven applies and in this case it may be referring to the Seven Principles for the Aspiring One, which you may read here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Seven_Principles_for_the_Aspiring_One And it also applies to the unfolding of consciousness from unconsciousness by Creation itself in cycles of seven as explained in the book, GENESIS: 47. If it would awaken and become conscious and self-aware and begin its all-temporal BEING, in order to fill its time-unending life as a BEING existence and to spread its all-temporal and enlivening breath: 48. to evolve itself to the Primordial Flame/Re-creation in the course of seven times seven total Great Periods. Further down... 124. but the sevens are the unity of: 125. 1)Universal BEING 126. 2)Universal law 127. 3)Universal mind 128. 4)Universal love 129. 5)Universal force 130. 6)Universal time 131. 7)Universal creation 132 And since the Sevenfoldness was ideated in creation and transformed into an idea, conceived and thought, begotten, animated, developed and created in birth, in its own evolution and power out of itself through the conceived thought, then the shell of its mind broke and animated it with the power of the won existence of creation, with the power of creation, which is there again called logic, knowledge, truth and wisdom, born out of the unity of the Sevenfoldness: 133. The Sevenfoldness, then, was conceived, begotten, and created within the mind. 134 The unity of the Sevenfoldness, however, forms the primordial beginning of all life in spiritual and material form. 135. The seventhness is the fundamental law of all life in any form. 136. From it also result all concepts of time and space, the form of all creation and creation, the existence and existence of creation itself and also the limitation of finiteness by the number 7, which, calculated in sevenfoldness, led in constant multiplication to BEING in BEING, which is BEING in the highest central creation, in the Absolute Absolute. There are other groupings of SEVEN which you can find here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Genesis_(the_book) Regards Bob |
