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Edward
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Post Number: 493
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 03:29 am: | 
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Hi Memo...
Well Complied, Memo.
Very very well put.
Truly, previous Popes have died in Mysterious ways(Murdered).
I fine it very very odd, that the Pope was exhibited at his balcony window
first, some time back, when it was Freezing cold outside, when his
colleges did know, that he was very ill. To me, it seems as if THEY wanted
to get rid of him in "Advance"! An old man that is very very ill, One does
not exhibit at an open window with a freezing wind breeze, not?
His last moments at the balcony window..he seemed like a Lifeless Zombie.
More a Robot..waving when pushed by a remote control button. I found this
very pathetic.
But the whole Vatican Scenario is one BIG Puppet "Show"...as can be.
One should realize, that the Vatican is as old as The Maffia. Man has even
mentioned that the Maffia is much and much older than the Vatican, it
self. The Maffia...goes back way before the Roman Empire is mentioned, and
that they were the first Rulers of the land at the time, and STILL ARE.
They just made themselves..."PART" of the in construction to be Vatican
City...and it's Religious system.
And it is said: The Vatican IS...THE MAFFIA!! And the Pope(s) are just The
Puppets, to keep the People "Under the(ir) Thumb". That is why, there are
good relations, and links to The Maffia...and the Vatican. The Vatican IS
the Most Richest Religious(Christian Catholic) Establishment on the face
of the Earth!! And They did Not do this...by themselves!!
So, as One can notice: the Vatican Christian Catholic Religion..has the
Same...Construction Scenario...as that of what came into realization by
the Israeli Nomads...that Constructed the Jewish Religion and all its
"Twisted" interpretations....etc...etc. Thus, once again, a "Repetition"
of a False Religion.
So, we should not be surprised...if Popes are "Eliminated"!
Edward. |
Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 07:35 pm: |
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Hi:
There are several articles on current threats on the head of state of Israel, Ariel Sharon, from extremist right-wing zionists
See for instance
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=628584
There is even rumours of coup from the military.
Salome
Eric |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 99
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 02:37 am: |
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dear Eric
It begs the question then, what really happened to ariel sharon? should we believe in the mainstream media report that he suffered a massive brain haemorrhage or whether the zionists were successful in their conspiracy to eliminate him? I realise ferverently that when it comes to politics, we never know.
peace be with you |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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From Contact 251:
Initial efforts are being made by a new movement to promote total non-violence; while a woman gains a high and influential position among world powers through another group's formation.
After hearing her speak recently on C-Span about impeaching Bush and prosecuting him and the others that lead us to war under false pretenses, resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent people, I wonder if the woman referred to is Cindy Sheehan. She speaks in the plain, commonsense way that people can understand, unlike the politicians. She will have much greater influence if she keeps to the grass-roots movements, rather than running for office. |
Eric_drouin
Member
Post Number: 109
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 07:59 pm: |
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Hi Newinitiation:
Very good observation. I did not think about this
connection. What you postulate makes lot of sense.
And from experience, what is logic and makes sense often turns out to be true....
Furthermore, those Palestinian elections (Hamas), to whom it will benefit? mmmm And that article from Russian general that International Terrorism only exist to benefit transnational oligarchs, and big money (thanks to consolato)
Exxon declaring record profits of 32 biliion?..
Iran to exchange Oil in Euros on March 20 2006?...
mmmm lot of connections indeed....
Peace to you all "like minded" people.
Eric |
Lonnie
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 08:48 am: |
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Dear Jo and Eric,
I can sympathize with Cindy Sheehan. It is very difficult to deal with the loss of a son for an immoral, illegal war that should never have been started to begin with. However, although it is commendable that Cindy Sheehan is trying to do something to bring about change for the better, she is going about it all wrong in my opinion.
Over the past few years, I, as well as others on this forum, have asked Billy several questions about how to bring about positive change for the better in this country in view of serious repercussions from the current political and military policies of the USA.
Here are some things that Billy has said about this urgent matter:
*Public protests are a form of war!
*We must create a good voting system to remove corrupt political leaders from positions of power!
*The corrupt leaders must be replaced with decent responsible human beings who will rule in the best interests of their fellowman!
*Use the legal system, for example. And educate and enlighten other people. Found groups of like-minded people!
*Practice the Peace Meditation!
When we solve our problems successfully on a small scale, then we can progress forward throughout the rest of the country and be a good example for the entire world of mankind. Even as they may be to us.
Ultimately, it must begin with ourselves as individuals. We must take care of our own well being first (spiritual and consciousness related).
There is much more we can do, but for a start I think this should suffice.
Salome,
Lonnie |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 99
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 03:08 pm: |
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Initial efforts are being made by a new movement to promote total non-violence; while a woman gains a high and influential position among world powers through another group's formation.
Heard Cindy Sheehan today on airamericaradio.com. She has decided not to run for US Senate. She is affiliated with/endorses womensaynotowar.org. This is a world-wide organization of women devoted to ending the Iraq war through non-violent means. Sounds more and more like the woman spoken of in Contact 251. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 205
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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A couple of links that show a desire to create the human/machine hybrids the Plejaren spoke of in this contact:
Humans will eventually "evolve" into powerful, immortal, Borg-like beings:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/03/BUG8QF0OO81.DTL&type=tech
This one shows a Cyborg as a potential of future "evolution":
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7348103/ |
Tjames
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 05:48 pm: |
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Hi Hunter,
I checked out the "Future of Evolution" and the concept of being in competition with machine one day sounds very similar to the prophecies where machines become uncontrollable and operate "on their own" however, the beginnings for all humanity starting in Africa is obviously wrong and perhaps some of the adaptations like the Cyborgs and especially the Astrans are a bit off track but still feasible. It is said in "And yet they fly" that treatments and mis-treatments like augmentation crossing human and machine will definately occur, it's just to what extent. And the "Astrans" who are genetically engeneered to go in a state of "suspended animation" is science fiction but with the development of newer and more effective drive systems, traveling between star clusters to visit other civilizations will become the norm WITHOUT suspended animation, but perhaps genetic manipulation for the better will make it possible to live a thousand plus years. It is possible and we must never forget that the actions we make now directly affects tommorow, literally. Additionally, I do not think that the time-frame they chose of of 1 million year segments is realistic, although our offspring will stretch that far and a million fold beyond, I do not think those time tables are even close to accurate. Personally I think genetic manipulation for anything like "suspended animation" is not 5 million years away but only 700-2400 years, givin this simple fact... our sun will weaken quicker than suspected spelling the end of life on this planet so I suspect a migration with long range travels (maybe we'll be assisted by our friends?) within the next thousand to several thousand years based on the breakdown of the prophecies. Although I cannot be sure, I suspect that things like new human species with or without nightvision developed from the darkness made from nuclear wars thereby causing genetic mutation can happen this century. So I think were not that far off. There are many pro's and cons about genetic engineering in general, but overall I'm excited for the future even if many around me see it as a grim one. Lets's prove them wrong!
Salome,
Tim |
Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:52 am: |
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tjames,
i'm a college student here at a HBCU and i'm taking history 101 which is world history. i learned that humans evolved from africa, but u seem to completely disagree. well, i totally disagree with you and agree with my teacher. u can read books and stuff written by white man, although i am a white female, and they continue to teach society things based on a racial issue and put blacks out of it. but if u go to any proffesional archeologists and paleothropologists, you'll find out that we all evolved from africa, although all of the previous humans had a dead end and we the homosapiens emerged while they died out. the reason why there are so many colors now is because when the homoerectus started to migrate to the northern parts and settled, of the thousands of years, a chemical inside there body cahnged their skin color, it's a gene that's located in our dna. if you stay in a cold north part, you'll turn pale, if u go in the south with the sun you'll get dark. now this is not over a couple years or so, but hundreds. it takes time, but it does happen.
sorry about this if u feel otherwise, but i'm just repeating what my prfessor said.
saloome,
isabella coca |
Tjames
Member
Post Number: 142
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:39 pm: |
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Hello Isabellacoca,
Ich heiße Tim! Have you read contact 251? I'm a student of Science at CSCC and as I progress in my major of Biology I have to rely on emperical evidence as well. The problem is our knowlege of origin is very limited which explains why we still have nearly uncountable schisms of religions. My comment "the beginnings for all humanity starting in Africa is obviously wrong" admittingly could have been put in a more precise context. First off this is the FIGU Discussion forum where we discuss knowlege/information gathered from Billy Meier and Co. (not attempting to patronize)where the theme "contact 251" is up for discussion. What I attempted to imply was that "not all" species of human evolved on this planet. I feel this assertion is very important to heed when beginning to study the Meier material. I am not sure how far along you've studied. Have you read all of Contact 251 or any? It is here:
http://www.figu.org/us/ufology/index.htm
Sometimes we here on earth have to assimilate when old data only tells a fraction of the story, sometimes the truth has much bigger story to tell. Here is an excerpt from contact 251:
"Ultimately, within more recent terrestrial history, they came to our planet, where they settled in China, Japan and other locations, and various new, so-called races formed. Upon leaving the Sirius regions, the other geneticallly-manipulated peoples found a way to the SOL System, where several thousands of rebellious genetically-manipulated people had previously been banished to a myriad of terrestrial locations as a punishment. These masses of diverse races found refuge on the planets Mars and Malona/Phaeton, respectively, where they constructed cities, pyramids, stations and other things. They led a good life on Mars until the planet became uninhabitable through cosmic influences. For this reason, the genetically-manipulated people had to leave that planet in ancient times and, subsequently, they settled on EARTH. Over the course of time, they became terristrial human beings whose true and genuine Ur-origin was within the regions and planets of Sirius."
Perhaps this is simply an issue of perspective.
It's a hard transition for those who are unwilling to listen.
Speaking of evidence, have you seen Chariots of the Gods? Plenty of archiological, anthropological evidence of ET ancestors as well and I could go on.
Salome,
Tim
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If you measure the size of your knowlege and compare it to the size of your EGO, remember that your Ego is infinitely larger. |
Markc
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:39 pm: |
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Hello Tim , Isabella ;
Much can be said about college girls and their professors , and you have said a mouthful .
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:22 pm: |
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Tjames(tim)
really? wow. i didn't look at it that way. no i havent't read contact 251 although it sounds and seems very interesting. i'll look into it. i've only had this professor for a month 1/2 although duirng the whole time she's been absent more than 5 times and late. i'll let you know in the future what i think about contact 251 and in a possitive way.
salome,
isabellacoca
PS: have any of you 2 heard from gicayhwh since his last access? he's my father and of all luck i just had to run in figu a year after hi last accesss.
salome isabellacoca |
Tjames
Member
Post Number: 144
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 10:24 am: |
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Isabell,
Truthfully, contact 251 (in English) is, in my opinion the most comprehensive and detatiled explanation of Earths distant past out of all the english contact notes. However, this may not be the case for the German selections and especially due to the volume of Deutche bucher / information.
As I have read so far you appear fairly proficient in the German language based on the fact that you've posted several lengthy posts in the "Learn German" section. Are you fluent in German? If so than you are strides ahead of many. And that, in my opinion is the first measurable step to understanding the broad sense and the "in depth" analysis that is required if one wants to fully understand our place in this universe and its conncection to the Meier Contacts.
I am on my second German course of four and I just took my final this week. I look forward to seeing you around the forum.
Salome,
Tim |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 206
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 02:11 pm: |
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"sorry about this if u feel otherwise, but i'm just repeating what my professor said."
Isabella, your professor is wrong. Our ancestors did not originate on earth. Humankind did not evolve from apes either. Apes were genetically engineered from humans and monkeys. They are not a naturally occuring animal.
Namaste,
Hunter |
Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Hunter,
"Our ancestors did not originate on earth."
Ancestors as in us humans? You mena we originated from outerspace and those people out there are experimenting on us to see how earth shaped us? I know for a fact we didn't evolve from those damn monkeys. But hearing the fact that we didn't originate on earth sounds interesting. We are the only animal on earth that has extraordinary intelligence.
salome,
isabellacoca |
Michael_d
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 07:13 pm: |
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Hunter,
Isn’t it true that some human forms evolved on Earth? That’s not to say that any of the current Earth races evolved totally on their own without ET intervention or cross-breeding, just that some human forms had their origin on this planet. Maybe more important than the origin of the human form is the origin of the spirit form. Most of the spirit forms enlivening Earth humans were created to this planet and are not of ET origin. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 207
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 02:13 pm: |
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Michael,
Yes, some human beings did originate on earth.
And yes, most of the spirit forms are of terrestrial origin. I think only around 200,000 are from higher level extraterrestrials. |
Hunter
Member
Post Number: 208
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 02:16 pm: |
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Isabella,
Please take some time to go through and read the questions and answers in the "Your Questions to Billy Answered" section. Also spend some time reading in "The Spiritual Teachings" section. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 168
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 06:14 pm: |
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dear hunter
G'day hunter I was just wondering for the sake of correctness whether what I've read wasn't falling on false premise when in the contact notes, billy stated that for every 1 million persons there are 203 ET spirit inhabiting persons alive in this world at the time of writing.
I'll get back to you on the exact contact notes and the date.
Judging by the rapid increase of earth population since the contact notes, the fact that all the ET's spirit form from Malona and Mars would have transmigrated to earth, not to mention all the ETs that have died here on earth since 22 million years ago who have migrated here to earth intermittently up to the present, added to this all 4000 ets that have passed away from the tunguska saga, all former members of gizeh intelligences who didn't return back to their original home but died here and the recent introduction of the yellow races from the other side of our galaxy who've migrated here approximately 1 apoch ago, It would be logical to conclude that ET spirit forms in the terrestrial sphere is higher in number bordering on 10's of millions against the figure you have given.
Anyway don't read too much into what I've written other than for the sake of correctness for all other participants, I have responded to your post to clarify the number.
In the end it matters little how many ET spirit inhabiting individuals live on this earth nor how many there are in the fine matter sphere waiting to incarnate just as long as we don't forget the fundamental importance of our place in this greater world and what the ulimate meaning of life is.
To evolve and progress our spirit by learning from life's experiences so that we eventually find our way home back to Creation.
Take care Hunter and everyone |
Junior
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 06:51 am: |
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Dear Isabella, Hunter, and all
It will help you separate the discussion into two parts, if I am not mistaken the initial topic started on the idea of the material body, and then changed to the spirit form.
From reading on various Billy’s books, earth did have humans that were generated on the planet that were influenced by ET’s, so the idea the human bodies is true that some originated on earth. But lets take it from this point it was so long ago that surely the genetics changed with every time another ET race came to earth and settled here.
Now for the next point the spirit forms are surely extremely different from each other on this planet, as mentioned by Newinitiation that spirits have stayed on earth for various reasons, which also point to the fact that there are both Earth originated spirit forms and spirit forms that came from our planet. Especially that I remember reading that because of over population new spirit forms are created, which some how explains that there are earth originated spirit forms.
Peace to all, and one Love
Junior
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Memo00
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 04:48 am: |
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hi Junior
its supposed that in our planet "new" spirits cannot incarnate because we have achived a level of evolution in which a human with such a spirit would be considered a complete idiot etc (all the new spirits are born knowing nothing, we all start from 0)
also it is supposed that due to overpopulation we all reincarnate a lot of time sooner than normally we should, and this produces confusion
take care |
Junior
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 06:11 am: |
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Hi Memo,
Well as I mentioned I remember reading it somewhere I will try to find where I read it. I agree with you that the spirits will be very out of place if they were new spirits on earth. But in the end of the day what would be the solution when most of the spirits are on earth, and the ones on the other side have jut been less than 10 years (earthtime) there on the other side.
Because this is the reason I read that spirits will need to be created to balance out the over population.
But I will try to find were I read it, one never knows I might have misunderstood this part.
Take care
Peace to all, and one Love
Junior
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