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    Norm Member Post Number: 824 Registered: 02-2000 |
Does anyone know in what book of Message from the Pleiades & what page I can find the info about Franco's death? | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 03-2003 |
Hi Norm, I don't have the book in front of me to give you the exact page numbers, but the information about Franco's death appears towards the end of Contact 36 in Book 2 of Stevens. There is some additional information in Contact 38 as well (again, somewhat towards the end). | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 825 Registered: 02-2000 |
David, Thanx. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 195 Registered: 03-2003 |
Greetings everyone, Just to let everyone know, after coming across some new translations of Billy and the Plejarens info, I'm now under the impression that Wendelle Steven's books and CDs are about ready now for the fire pit. I knew Steven's books had a few errors, but I didn't realize it had that many errors. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 482 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear "Truthseeker", Please try to seek the truth a little harder. We provide an explanation towards the middle of www.gaiaguys.net/meierv2p406-410,v4p55-58,98-101.htm as to the origins of many of the errors of fact that appear in Wendelle's work. There is also mention of this topic @ www.gaiaguys.net/translations.htm and http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/6730.html#POST23641 There are forces who wish to continue to discredit Col. Stevens. We are not among them, nor do we advise that you burn his Meier-related books. Quite the contrary. Just be aware of the difficulties in trying to get all the details right when you haven’t read the original German language FIGU material which has now been corrected by FIGU. Salome, Dyson | ||
Oo1oo1 New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hello Truthseeker, Have you seen what those books are commanding at Amazon? Anywhere from $45.00 - $485.25 USD. I guess they're not worth the money in your opinion. If you don't mind my asking, are the new translations you've come across available on the web? | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 03-2003 |
Greetings Dyson and Oo1oo1, Actually now that I've given it some serious thought I know that I still couldn't burn Wendelle Steven's books because it still has reference numbers in it that can still prove quite useful for finding and looking up the original German counter parts for a much faster reading and comparing in new translations. I've known Wendelle Stevens personally for a few years now and I can agree with you in that he is a person of good intentions with his own perspective in the Billy Meier contacts, but I have to admit that I've taken in some of his info just a little to literal some times only to later discover otherwise a year or 2 or even 3 years later. Dyson, thanks for the links. Oo1oo1, you're right about these books been worth a lot of money, which is of course another reason why I can't just go ahead and get rid of them. Peace in being, James Truthseeker | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 01-2007 |
Dear “Truthseeker” First of all, I am new to the discussion forum and to the Billy Meier case. Before I came to this discussion forum (which I never knew even existed until recently) I decided to undertake a little research into this case as to what books and material would be a good place to start from with my limited knowledge. Therefore with an open mind I purchased “Contact from the Pleiades, a Preliminary Investigation Report”, by Lt. Col. Wendelle C. Stevens (Ret.). One of only 2000 such books published. It contained information that I thought was coherent, logical, objective and investigative and presented a wealth of information backed up with scientific analysis. In fact it was probably one of the most comprehensive reports that I have read on any UFO case. A friend of mine has the early four volumes of contact notes published by Mr. Stevens (I never knew he even had these until recently!). I would like to study these volumes to gain a perspective of the overall case, even while now knowing there are omissions / errors contained within those volumes as highlighted by FIGU, Dyson & Vivienne and others that are unknown to me. I don’t want to reiterate the old cliché of being human and making mistakes, but it does really include you, me, members of FIGU, Mr. Meier, Mr. Stevens and the Plejarans. If you remember back to the late seventies and early eighties the internet was not available, therefore this information had to be made known to the English speaking general public by book form even if it was in limited quantities and with these translation and minor errors (perhaps known and unknown at the time) the information was thought to be important enough to disseminate at great effort and time. I for one am glad that I can hold and study such material today in my hands! Therefore I would plead with you not to dispense of those works to a fiery end. Even books such as those by Kal Korff has it merits and does not deserve the same end because it goes to show if a person actually try’s to understand such books by logical and thoughtful processes they too can sort the “Wheat from the Chaff” in order to help find the truth and indeed untruth from such books. Please do not make the same mistakes that have been done in our past by burning books. I am sure there are other people on this forum that would gladly receive those books and material if you were to offer them. With the kindest of regards and wishing you wellness Mike “It is characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things” Henry David Thoreau, American Author and Philosopher. | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 03-2003 |
There it is done, all 7 books by Wendelle Stevens now gone up in smoke. Actually I'm kidding  , I still have them sitting safe and sound where they always have been on my book shelf in my library. But I've been thinking, does anyone here have a scanned copy of the San-Fransisco earthquake art photo found in book 4? I'd scan it myself, but I don't have a scanner to do so. I wouldn't mind seeing the original color photo of it, but Wendelle Stevens has long since lost it somewhere. Peace in being, James Truthseeker | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1078 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi James, Here is an old scan I did years ago. Of course it would be fascinating to see the original.  Scott | ||
Jakes Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2006 |
Hello, Does anyone know if that's the Bank of America building along the upper, right-hand side of the picture? The tall, dark building of similar height to the Transamerica building? If so, I guess the view is looking east-southeast? | ||
James Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 07-2005 |
Wow I haven't seen this future SF pic before. Here's a more recent image from a similar angle. I'd also like to see a better current pic of SF at the same angle, possibly a little further back so we can see where Billy was when he snapped the picture. <img> Welcome to Earth! | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 405 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear forum Oh no! the San Francisco earthquake is about to happen soon, within the next 5 years it seems. I checked the coordinates on google earth 37'47'49'.33" N 122'24'41'35" W The intact and half intact building featured in this photo is all there. View San Francisco from north westerly direction as this photo seem to have been taken from and follow in a straight line towards the pyramidal building and there is ample amount of reference of whatever is left of the buildings. Try to avoid using the 3D building options, it's not an accurate reflection of some of the real buildings. Anyone in the USA FIGU thought about warning the authorities? Scott? James? Mark? Norm? cheers Matt | ||
David_chance Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 03-2003 |
I once tried to track down a copy of the magazine the inspired illustration appears in but didn't have any luck. Perhaps someone else may give it a try...someone in Europe may have better access via a library copy. I think it's GEO Magazine, the September 1977 issue, ISSN 0342-8311, Heinrich Bauer/Gruner & Jahr AG, Hamburg, Germany: http://www.geo.de/ | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1079 Registered: 12-1999 |
James, This is not an actual picture, but a copy of an image from GEO Magazine which was actually a painting/drawing by someone who received "impulses" from a group of ET's at the time. The actual photos have since been confiscated by the Plejarens as I understand it. Scott | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 199 Registered: 03-2003 |
Thanks Scott for posting that up for me. I also understand that this is only just half of the original painting and what surprises me most is the fact that skeptics would claim Billy took a photo from this art when in fact they themsleves have never been able to provide proof that Billy even had pictures. -James Truthseeker | ||
James Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2005 |
That was a drawing or painting? Wow it looks so real. Are you sure it wasn't a miniature 3D model of the city? Welcome to Earth! | ||
Michael Member Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2000 |
From: http://www.theyfly.com/newsletter/november06/november06.htm#quake In 1978, Wendelle Stevens reported viewing (along with Lee and Brit Elders and seven other witnesses) 11 photographs that Meier claimed that he took, during a time travel trip, of an earthquake that would occur sometime in the future, in San Francisco. Since publishing his observations, critics have claimed that Meier really just took photos of a painting that appeared in Geo magazine. But as Stevens says, there were 11 photos and only one Geo painting, plus as the investigators reviewed the photos looking for clues as to when it might happen, they noticed that the cars looked very different than the ones that were current in 1978. Here is what Stevens had to say, "I carefully studied each picture as they came to me, trying to recognize familiar landmarks and buildings, and any prominent new structures I had never seen there before. I looked carefully at cars shown in the streets below for style and any configurations not familiar at the time. I did see smaller cars with smoothly rounded corners and no external projections, and some of these had half-glass and others full-glass cabin tops, making them look more like bugs than boxy cars." I recently sent Wendelle the picture below of the new Ford Edge, and asked him if this was at all similar to what he saw in those photographs. He replied, "Yes that does look a lot like the Beetle shaped cars we saw except, some of them were beginning to show small fins on the back of the rear fenders." Let's see if designers start to introduce any cars with small fins in the near future. Michael Horn | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1102 Registered: 02-2000 |
What I would give to see this picture. I still think this could be many years in the future. Plus it could change altogether. My Website | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 175 Registered: 10-2005 |
In this day and age, presenting a photo of a future event warning the authorities might represent an act of terrorism. If they took it seriously. Below is a copy of my question to Billy about this series of photos discribed by Wendelle Stevens, in the Questions to Billy section of this forum: ====================================================================== Rarena Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 10:06 am: Dear Billy or Christian, Living in the San Francisco area, my question is about the Semjase photographs W. Stevens mentioned. Is this a warning that we should change our thoughts to become more inline with the spiritual truths your message details, is this possible? Danke sehr, Randy ô¿ô Answer This flight into the future was done because of Billy's personal interest to see the effects of the earthquake and to take photos. It's not a warning. ====================================================================== | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 406 Registered: 07-2005 |
G'day everyone Gees this painting seem so accurate that it may as well be the real deal If it's that accurate enough to go by, then the growth of the trees around the bottom of the picture is a good indication as a reference point to gauge the time frame of this event. I mean you can see the trees in the google earth sat image and its amazing that the level of accuracy of how the painter interpreted the impulse into a picture in canvas as if he used a template to draw over it. Has anyone in possession of this picture living in America thought about sending some copies enclosed with a letter of warning to radio stations, public institutions such as universities, to the general public and the authoritative bodies? Michael? Scott? James Truthseeker? Mark? Randy? Norm? It seems if enough goes around, at least people will be gossipping about the potentialities. It's strange how I could feel something up in the air for this year not just in terms of the middle east crisis but some kind of natural disaster that will once again create a stir. No, this isn't my amateur attempt at playing nostradamus, just that sometimes, especially when I am alone reflecting on things in the quite of night, pictures, images, feelings, images of peoples that I have never seen etc comes through my field of vision so vivid, so real and so right there in front of me and all this with my eyes closed. No, I am not suffering from any kind of mental illness just that I don't know how to describe it, there is this sensation I cannot put into words and it's not from autosuggestion either nor delusional thoughts nor the creation of an entity from the occult forces of self creation nor a flight of fancy. Anyway, my thoughts are etched on this forum, only in hindsight will there come a time I guess when things will become much clearer, Time will tell. cheers Matt | ||
Jakes Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2006 |
Hello, Correct me if I’m wrong, but if Billy time-traveled and took photos of the SF earthquake, then it’s something that cannot be changed, altered or undone. It’s going to happen exactly the way he witnessed it, and at the time he witnessed it (although we don’t know what time that is). Here’s something else related from the Q&A back in 2003: Hello Billy, There has been conjecture on this discussion forum that WWIII will not begin until some time after the occurrence of the San Francisco earthquake you viewed in a time travel. The logic is that the Transamerica building, which was split in half but still standing after the earthquake, would certainly not withstand the havoc that will undoubtedly be unleashed upon San Francisco during WWIII. Therefore, the war couldn’t possibly begin before the earthquake. Is this logic regarding the timeline for WWIII correct? Answer Just as WWI and WWII did not destroy all cities on Earth, WWIII would not destroy all cities. In other words: WWIII could occur outside of San Francisco, and even before the great earthquake. However, looking at the FEMA Nuclear Target Map for California makes one wonder how San Francisco could possibly survive WWIII if the actuality turns out to be as horrible as prophesized. Perhaps the Russian targets have changed since 1990. http://www.radmeters4u.com/states/ca.htm | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1103 Registered: 02-2000 |
This picture is not a Meier picture. It means nothing. I wish it would go away it only helps debunkers who claim its the picture Billy took with his camera. You can use any earthqake picture to prove your point. The Plejarens took the originals away for a reason. My Website |
