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    E. Visser |
Just read the 235th contact-note (again). It says that 5 other people (contactees) besides Mr Meier are in communication with ET's.This contact note is from 1990 so perhaps changes will have occured by now. It also deals with crop circles.True that most have been created by men,perhaps even a few by a powerfull whirlwinds.One person with a camcorder filmed a small ufo hovering over a cropcircle. This could also be a reason why people would be eager to link it with extra-terrestials. The sightings in Belgium are mentioned and if one would carefully read the words one would notice what he (Ptaah) actually means. The same would apply to the origins of the Chinese and Japanese peoples. Funny how each ET race wanted a 'piece of the pie'.Perhaps on other worlds they call our planet 'Cocktail' or 'Rainbow'. Regards, TerraX. | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi Everyone: Question.... While I was reading the contact note 235 again few days ago, I realized Ptaah said 'According to observer of time....' that next contact about spiritual teaching will happen in 761 year later, anyone know what/who is the observer of time? Maybe it is a spiritual level race? Hampton Chiu | ||
Mark Campbell |
Hi Hampton ; The observer of time , as I understand it , is the Arahat Athersata . I think the Petale is too busy . Mark | ||
E. Visser |
Hi Hampton. I thought that particular term was Observers of Time.What comes to my mind when I read it is that it perhaps is an organisation which monitors temperol incursions.Meaning they check and perhaps prohibit time travel. Regards, TerraX. | ||
Norm |
TerraX, Are watching to much Star Trek again! ;) | ||
E. Visser |
Hi Norm. Guilty! But I think there's logic to my explanation.If someone would alter time-lines than things become highly chaotic perhaps even disasterous. Surely intelligent space travelling races who have the capability to time travel and who joined a council of worlds would have agreed upon guidelines and perhaps even an institution which checks time travel. When I read Ptaah statements of research trips into the past I was amazed how lightly he adressed the topic.That comes from my conviction that time is a dimension which should be handled with the utmost care. Regards, TerraX. | ||
Norm |
If I'm correct from the Billy's info you can't change the past once its set. | ||
Hampton Hsien-Ting Chiu |
Hi TerraX(Mr. Visser) and Norm: I tend to agree more with Mr. Visser on this one, hey, I am a Star Trek fan... Of course it could be Arahat Athersata as Mr. Campbell stated. There are numerous of space travel races, just imagine on one planet, similar to Erra, with 500 million population, each house would have a time travel capacity craft. The chance of one crazy guy take off with one of the spacecraft and go back in time is not only possible, but very probable. Since pure spirit form race is not limited by time like us, they are most suitable for this purpose, I would imagine there is a pure spirit form race is guarding the timeline against any 'unapproved' changes. And one thought for Norm, remember Ptaah mentioned to Mr. Meier that he spoke ancient Greek when they met first time in the huge space station? so does that implied he went to ancient Greece in the past timeline and do something there in the past Earth time? So the we can say that any change in the past is destined(no suitable word here?) to happen, maybe you can say that we can not go back to change the past, but that would include the events done by time travel races to go back the past timeline already, like a paradox... Whatever Ptaah did there may have changed the history and I would assume he needs approval to do that. You just can not simply go back time and give native indians some M-16 and wipe out the invading invading federal troops, right? It would change the events later, maybe with serious consequence. It would be logical that any physical form race whenever they found the means to do time travel, they may be approached by some pure spirit form race and have some rules lay out, that is the game rule for time traveling, similar to First Contact concept. Maybe it is anther good question to Mr. Meier... Peace. Hampton Chiu | ||
Savio |
Dear all History/past can be changed through time travel was proven by Billy and his ET friends, example: the elimination of a tree. What I think is, what can be changed can be reset. Would it be one of the jobs of "The Observers of Time"? If they perform this job well, it virtually equals to "history can never be changed". Regards Savio | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Savio, You make a good point with reference to the disappearing tree. In addition when Billy went back into the 13th century he left, I believe a flashlight with the gentleman living in France. (I cant remember his name). Maybe there are situations or events which when calculated through probabilities will have no significant impact on the future. I would also assume any race of beings capable of time travel would have reached a level of technology and evolution in which they understand the nature of probabilities and what can or cannot be done. I'm sure there are Creational laws which prevent any tampering with certain aspects of the past because this would create a chaotic situation for all, but just removing a tree may not harm anyone or thing, therefore it is allowed to occur. This would be a good question to ask Billy on the next go round of questions. Salome Scott | ||
Incredible Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 06-2007 |
If they remove the tree they can change the future. What happen if in the future was programed that a guy step bellow that tree during a storm of rays? and now that guy will not die! The future was changed!!!  "we born to die and we die to born" | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 278 Registered: 08-2004 |
I don't think removal of the tree relates in any way to changing the future. For us on our timeline the tree was just there one day and not the next, just as if it had been cut down. The Ps said they just shifted its time. That may not mean they sent it back or forward on our timeline. Maybe they shifted it like they are shifted in time from us on their planet. Exactly what that shifting of its time means for them is difficult to grasp, because it seems different from jumping along a timeline -- which is what Billy did with the torch episode. If Billy -- or anyone -- traveled into the future and left something rather inconsequential it wouldn't be changing the future, but rather programming a certain event to happen in the future. Don't we all do mundane examples of this future programming without traveling physically to the future and leaving the inconsequential object? We are the scuptors of our future. We all "change" or mold the future with every moment we live. If the future has not yet existed how can it possibly be changed? That sounds illogical. The future is born of what we each decide to do now and next. We can change perhaps the future we imagine, think, or project to be coming, but not what will be, because that hasn't yet existed, neither does it exist -- until you get there. And if you travel there it is always just a little different because it doesn't exist as a whole predetermined reality -- only the major things remain the same because they are predictable. | ||
Likeaflower Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2007 |
Hello Incredible and Cpl, The question of "can the past be changed through time-travel?" has already recently been answered by Billy in the "Questions to Billy" section of the forum. The answer was basically that: No, one cannot time-travel to the past and change it. What is done is done. If I had some time I would point you to the exact Q&A post this answer was given, but you may find it yourselves by using the "search" function of the forum. Additionally, you should note that Savio's last post re. this topic was dated 2002. Salome, Anthea C. Overpopulation Threat Blog | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 281 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Anthea, "No, one cannot time-travel to the past and change it. What is done is done." Not sure why you address this to me. Yes, I am aware of that, and it agrees with what I have said on this subject a number of times. cpl | ||
Francofiori2004 Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 03-2007 |
When you go to future with a beamship, you see one of possible future or you see the only one real future? Is it a prevision that humans will accept truth in year 2800 or it is only a prophecy? An amazing invention for natural health: WWW.ETERNARINGS.COM | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 282 Registered: 08-2004 |
There is not only one true future. Certain details may be predicted. Quetzal told Billy that if they went to see the future SF quake a number of times there would be slight differences in each visit. Humans have free will and so can create the future they want to certain degrees. Given choices they will not always decide the same way. Presumably, geologically or ecologically the planet might be different each trip according to how human decisions have affected same. Perhaps the farther out in time the more likelihood of greater changes. I'll leave the answer to your last question for someone at FIGU, but will add that the quest for truth is endless and eternal. No one can ever know it all. | ||
Francofiori2004 Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 03-2007 |
Thank you cpl, I didnt' know that quote from Ptaah. So there is slight possibility that earthuman will be more spiritual and wise long before year 2800? An amazing invention for natural health: WWW.ETERNARINGS.COM | ||
Likeaflower Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2007 |
Hello Cpl, My sincere apologies, that was a mistake of hitting the send button before doing a double-check. And yes, I certainly do agree with your thoughts on this matter. Salome, Anthea C. Overpopulation Threat Blog "He is happiest who hath power to gather wisdom from a flower." -- Mary Howitt | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 284 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Fran2004 and Anthea, I believe it was Quetzal's comment -- when he took Billy to a/the future SF -- that each visit would see slight changes. The other comments are my own. IMHO some earth humans will be wise and spiritual before 2800. Again IMO from what I've read here and elsewhere together with my own intuitions I think 2700-2800 is a ballpark figure for when the whole of humanity can be said to have awakened en masse. Again IMO, highly developed and sophisticated technology will have a lot to do with this, as it will be able to probe into the inner levels of human physiology and psycho-physiology (for want of a better word) to reveal the truths there for all to see. I stress this is my own opinion. I am not aware of any information on this from FIGU, Billy, or the Ps as such. IMO we will begin to see this occurring towards the latter part of this century, when, again IMO, the human spirit will be scientifically proven to exist. Again IMO, then, if not before, there will be more openness to Billy's teaching and messages, as there will likely be a true spiritual renaissance in conception. If someone at FIGU has more specific information on 2800 as being a prediction or prophecy perhaps they could post something. No problem Anthea. Mistakenly pressing the post button instead of the preview button is easily done. I've done it myself too. | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 197 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello cpl and others, Regarding the 800 years, someone just asked today on the German forum about it and Hans from the core group has written this.. „Diese Jahreszahl erscheint in meinen Beiträgen als Beispiel, dass es vielleicht in 800 Jahren auf dieser Welt besser sein könnte, wenn wir heute mit der Veränderung beginnen.“ „This year appears in my posts as an example that it could be better in this world perhaps in 800 years, if we begin today with the change.” So I take it since he talks about it as a prophecy then that is the view of FIGU regarding the 800 years. Salome, Badr | ||
Lonnie Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 12-1999 |
There is a logical progression in the 800 years and beyond. If, as Hans stated, we begin today with the change, then yes, it will take about 800 years for the mission on Earth to be completed. Namely, a return to logical thinking and a way of life in harmony with the Natural, Creational laws. You could liken this change to clearing out a virus in your computer so that better progress can be made. At that point when mankind has awakened, we can then make more progress in the other important sciences such as space technology and exploration, in order to safely get off the planet before the year of the exodus, 3999. However, we are going to have to be well prepared before that time by means our growing knowledge, wisdom, love, humanity and consciousness development, to be able to live in peace with other human beings in a more highly developed civilization, within the Federation, on other planets. Since we will be living longer in the future, this gives us possible only a few lifetimes to prepare. Salome, Lonnie Morton | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1257 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Lonnie, You mentioned "before the year of the exodus, 3999", what exactly are you referring to? Regards Scott | ||
Lonnie Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Scott, The year of the exodus is when all human beings and spirit forms must be off the planet. Our sun is dying. Shortly after 3999 the sun will die out like a candle. Then, the whole solar system will be drawn into a black hole. Other planets are being prepared for us as we speak. Salome, Lonnie |
