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Edward Member
Post Number: 1378 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 12:27 am: |
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Hi Sparky.... It is mentioned that in our future to come the Earth's monetary system would one day be abolished. As far as I know, there was not mentioned a time-frame; I guess, it is just one of those aspects, that will just come our way....when the time is 'ripe' for it to occur. And, it was also mentioned, that certain individuals, of a certain Criminal background, will once again try to diffuse the monetary system; this all is linked, as usual...to Power (Hungry) and Ruling and Domination, of the human beings! At this mentioned point in time, we should of course, take heed to such Criminal aspects and Avert them from doing so. Or else, we will return to the same ill and insane 'vacuum', as we are in today. Concerning the Plejarans: I can not recall HOW they abolished their monetary system; perhaps, someone else can fill in this gap? The Plejarans can live without money. Every individual/family have their daily tasks to fulfill(; number of hours a day; which can vary, etc..). Which is just conducting certain aspects of work, in which...they are best in profession, in. Please read - And Yet....They Fly - Guido's book, which explains more in details...the Plejarans matters. Edward. |
Syn Member
Post Number: 170 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 12:48 am: |
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sparky, billy mentioend in a prophecy that it would be abolished around 2700-2800. It is a prophecy. With the huge success of the zeitgeist movement....That idea might actually happen....much sooner. Possibly the very limits of our life times?? It all depends if the zeitgeist movement gains enough momentum and sustains it(its got the momentum...just wonder if itll keep it). Thats what bothers me is the prophecy and the zeitgeist movement. As much as i love the idea of success of the movement, i always think about billy meier. Prophecies although can change. I did ask billy meier if he heard about the venus project(main motive from the movement) of what he thinks about it. He didnt hear anything about it. But christian i believe did hear about it, but has his doubts. Maybe billy meier should watch zeitgeist addendum and see what he thinks possibly? Dear Syn, Your post might be misinterpreted, your conclusion that abolishing of the monetary system has a relation to the zeitgeist movement is a bit out of place, unless you have some evidence, which you probably wont have as you are talking about prophecies. Try to make a clear separation between your theories and that of FIGU, so people don't get confused between both. Don't remember seeing a specified date for abolishing money, can you please mention the source? Peace.. Badr - Moderator (Message edited by badr on April 21, 2009) They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey
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Syn Member
Post Number: 171 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 01:55 am: |
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Badr... The main objective of the zeitgeist movement as i understnad and please feel free to corrent me, is the intelligent management of our resources. This would eventually leading to the abolishing the monetary system as it cannot survive in an abundant world, as the monetary system can only function in a scarce world. The venus project is also mainly dealing with that abd also including a system where people are able to submit ideas or let creativity flourish. Regarding to figu, michael horn stated that the money system would eventually abolish itsel;f in 700-800 years. So i was merely guessing around 2700-2800?? At the monent i cannot find the ezxact date for abolishing money all i could find is an approximate of 700-800 years. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey
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Badr Moderator
Post Number: 492 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 02:30 am: |
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I know what you mean Syn, but all I was asking that you mention things like "from my observation" or "in my opinion" instead of stating your conclusions as facts. From what I understood is that in 800 years there is a big chance that the majority of humans will follow the teachings. A direct reference would clear this up. Peace.. |
Syn Member
Post Number: 172 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 03:33 am: |
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ahhh no worries. BTW badr...have you looked into the zeitgeist movement? http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com I strongly urge you to check into this. Its also got bi weekly radio segments. Peter(creator of zeitgeist) already had 2 segments with a good sum of success. Infact i highly recommend anyone who is interested in new innovated ideas. Because the zeitgeist movement isnt just getting rid of the monetary system, but rather changing our social structure and innovated design and exploration. I think we have a real shot to deal some serious damage to the monetary system for exposing its corrupt system for what it really is. Ofcourse i mean this for good intentions for humankind. They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey
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Bianca Member
Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 04:23 am: |
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I vaguely recall that a prophecy states that money will be abolished in the far far future and that idea will be tried to be implemented soon but will fail. How soon is this to happen it didnt say. |
Syn Member
Post Number: 173 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:37 am: |
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bianca where did you read this? They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey
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Scott Moderator
Post Number: 1748 Registered: 12-1999
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:13 am: |
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Syn, There is mention of money in Contact 251: "As an experiment, money will be briefly abolished, but clandestine trading with valuable goods such as precious metals, diamonds and other commodities will continue." Scott |
Syn Member
Post Number: 174 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:02 am: |
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now does that mention a time line of some sort? They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority -Gerald Massey
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Yoid Member
Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2008
| Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 02:36 am: |
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The FED and bankers leading it should be stopped. Billy wrote on Henoch prophecies that if some people will not be removed it will lead to war. |
Ramirez Member
Post Number: 140 Registered: 06-2008
| Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 01:17 am: |
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Yoid. If you are after information regarding the connections between banking, corporations, motives, influence on government & power behind the scenes there exists a 41 page booklet explaining these issues from the American perspective. An excellent read which reveals much. Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy. Published 1984. By Murray N. Rothbard Cheers.
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Stephen_moore Member
Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 11:24 am: |
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Hi This is in response to a post by Michael Horn on the Disease thread post number 773 I know Michael has done lots of work and research into the prophesies and predictions of our good friend Billy Meier. I have also looked into various prophesies and predictions of Billy too, Every one I have looked into has been 100% accurate. When Billy has given dates for the for filling of the prophesies or predictions then these from what I have looked at have been 100% accurate too. For example Excerpt from "Warning to all the governments of Europe!" dated 1958 6.) Sectarianism will bear bad fruit and will cost many lives through murder and suicide as, also through politics and power lust, in diverse countries, hundreds of thousands of people will be murdered as in the Soviet Union which will be dissolved no later than 1991............. Excerpt from The Cold War Museum "Fall of the Soviet Union" In December of 1991, as the world watched in amazement, the Soviet Union disintegrated into fifteen separate countries. Its collapse was hailed by the west as a victory for freedom, a triumph of democracy over totalitarianism, and evidence of the superiority of capitalism over socialism. The United States rejoiced as its formidable enemy was brought to its knees, thereby ending the Cold War which had hovered over these two superpowers since the end of World War II. Indeed, the breakup of the Soviet Union transformed the entire world political situation, leading to a complete reformulation of political, economic and military alliances all over the globe. Also Excerpt from "Warning to all the governments of Europe!" dated 1958 40.) And it will be that even before the time of the Third Millennium, and indeed in 1993, a political and commercial European dictator will arise that will be called the "European Union" and, in evil, will carry the number 666............ Excerpt from Wikipedia "European Union" The European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 27 member states, located primarily in Europe. It was established by the Treaty of Maastricht on 1 November 1993 upon the foundations of the pre-existing European Economic Community. With almost 500 million citizens, the EU combined generates an estimated 30% share (US$16.8 trillion in 2007) of the world's nominal gross world product. I could post many more Thanks Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence
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Schantz Member
Post Number: 64 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |
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Stephen, Billy's prophecies are not 100% accurate. Michael knows the prophecies are not 100% accurate otherwise he wouldn't be doing what he does to keep them from being fulfilled. |
Sparky Member
Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 12:49 pm: |
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What are some of the predictions for the next decade that are as clear as these ones have been? I'm debating whether I should stay in the city and buy a condo or move out to the country and be self sufficient. Spend my days studying FIGU material and meditations. |
Stephen_moore Member
Post Number: 67 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 06:48 pm: |
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Schantz The prophesies that have been for filled have been accurate. The ones that have not yet been for filled are not accurate because they have or have not been fore filled. The ones that have been fore filled have been accurate to my research and knowledge. I personally have not found any in accurate information in the prophesies that have been fore filled. You may have. Asket: - The Creation is the basic foundation of life and all existence. In the force of The Creation, we fulfill our mission, which is not only of cosmic, but all-universal importance, because The Creation IS the life, and The Creation IS the existence
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Jonas Member
Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 02:34 am: |
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Hi guys Just want you guys to see something I stumbled accross on You Tube about Billy . Its not really impresive but can someone explain it to me. BUT REMEMBER ONE THING I PERSONALLY THINK WHAT EVER THE CASE MAY BE What Billy Meier says and hopes to achieve for humanity does make alot of sense for the future. Even with Jesus or any religion there has always been a shroud of doubt. But the evidence about Billy is unsettling to say the least. Although what I can't understand is the predictions he wrote in 1958 were they written in 1958 ??? Did He have to create the wedding cake UFO to assist the mission. But the other footage just makes him the most brilliant special affects guy in the world if they are faked. The link contradicts Billy's intentions as he never said the world will end and they even relate FIGU to mass suicide . Please check out the link and load me with comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltZxchhIaNs&feature=fvsr |
Schantz Member
Post Number: 65 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 08:59 am: |
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Jonas, What do you want explained to you? If you would study the Meier material and compare it with the video then I would hope you realize that the information in the video is a load of crap. |
Michael Member
Post Number: 774 Registered: 10-2000
| Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:21 am: |
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Jonas, I suggest that you go to: www.theyfly.com ...and read the articles linked under The Latest Evidence. The skeptical challenge to the case, to the physical evidence, etc. is over. The skeptics had EIGHT YEARS to substantiate their claims, debunk and duplicate Meier's film, photo, video and sound evidence. They couldn't, they didn't...they failed. These were the top international, professional skeptics. They failed. They're finished, done, over, finito, kaput. And they're VERY silent about it now, with good reason. P.S. One of them, who at least made a good try at it, interviewed me. It's at my site now too. Michael Horn
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Jonas Member
Post Number: 27 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:20 pm: |
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Thanks guys I'll check it out , thanks Michael, by the way the movies made it to TVS community television and should be aired soon . I'll try to find out the right date. It just gets very confusing especially when the only mechanism for proof is the internet, as much as I would like to vist Billy's place and see for myself it is immpossible for me to just get up and go even for a holiday, I've been to Zurich and it is beautiful in Switzerland. But as for Cult following I don't think it is and never will be, unless Carl Croff figures out how to make a buck out of it by setting up churches. I really appreciate your comments because spiritually intelligent people are hard to find these days thanks heaps |
Jonas Member
Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 02:24 am: |
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Schantz Go easy, with what you know ,do you really care what is said and what is written? I have seen even in my simple little world what the wealthy do to maintain their status, anything ! these people I trusted when I left school and looked up to thinking the law makers and the wealthy respected everyone and would direct the world for the good of man. But as it turns out the polititians, Law makers and the wealthy (billionaires)have only concern for their profit and status at any cost.I'm a very skeptical person but as some things in Billy's story look thin, much looks thick. Billy explians things how I have always imagined them to be. To me Billy is no different to anyone apart from delivering a message and the choice is yours to access the information he supplies from his celestial sources, and looking at the technology we have and what Billy predicted, it all makes sense. This is not a Cult as I would never be apart of one and will when I get time load my little You tube explanation to Mr Croff just for fun to try out my new sony camera.But can someone tell me when the 1958 predictions where first published and where becuase the accuracey of those predictions will never be debunked and that will be my basis for Billys profetic ability, which not many people know about, on my first You Tube commentary. Don't you just love technology |
J_rod7 Member
Post Number: 854 Registered: 10-2007
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 07:53 am: |
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***** Hi Jonas, Well, to state the obvious, the 1958 Prophecies and Predictions were published in 1958. That's like asking: "Do you know who's buried in Grant's Tomb?" The full text of this important work from Billy may be found at the following link::: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Warning_to_all_the_governments_of_Europe! Even today, this is a fascinating text to read. In Peace ... Salome ***** You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped) Rod
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Schantz Member
Post Number: 68 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 10:56 am: |
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Jonas, You are the one that asked for someone to explain the video to you and you also asked to be loaded with comments. I gave you my loaded comment. If you would prefer me not to comment then maybe next time when you ask the forum a question and ask for comments you can say excluding Schantz. |
Jonas Member
Post Number: 29 Registered: 03-2009
| Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 08:00 pm: |
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Schantz Your right my bad please, please understand my attitude is partly from the inviroment I'm in everybodies comments are greatly valued to me, please don't ever discount yourself from commenting. I'm not perfect, I'm just at a stage in my life trying to work things out and in search of the truth. I'm still gathering all the information and rock solid proof to defend aligations about Billy, but this is not about Billy if you look at the big picture, its the message that has to be protected. It is being tarnished with cultism false and fabricated events. same with J-Rod stating the obvious. Our world is in a mess due to untruth. Have you researched the cow mutilations, since 1894 this is been going on and not one ever charged, but there has also been human mutilations found, people cut up with some type of laser too and dropped from a great height.( All the same findings tongue cut out,facial tissue removed, reproductive organs removed, body completely drained of blood,Anus and part of large intestine completely removed, 10's of thousands of cases since the turn of the century) This has all been hidden and large amounts of money has been spent, some claim it is the reason for the finacial crash, as so much money has been taken from the system to pay for black opps. This mission is a crutial part of the puzzle.And we really need to adopt Billy's way of thinking. As I said prior I have the same respect for everybody that deserves it and tis is not a cult or religion and the FIGU headquarters is not a place of worship like many debunkers are leading people to believe, like the Boheimien Grove of the presidents of America. Just remember you guys are my brothers and this wisdom and knowledge found is treasure beyond believe. |
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