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Redbeard
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Dev, You have received a great deal of good advice from some great and caring people here. The only thing I wish to add and it goes along with what you said about being more of a thinker than a worker.

I have tried the reclusive life for a while for personal reasons and came to a conclusion because of it that I wasn't doing well and felt like life was closing in on me and the longer I hid away from people and issues the more out of balance I became. I was not physically active and soon realized that I could not continue in this way.

I discovered that I needed physical activity and interaction with people in order to keep me mentally and physically balanced. Thinking and Meditation is a very good thing to do, but if you don't take breaks from it, even a good thing or any other activity or line of thinking gets out of proportion from a wise life style a person can very easily get thrown out of sync in their thinking and perception of life around them.

One of the most effective remedy for people with depression is physical exercise as it brings about positive results for the entire being. Don't lock yourself away from life or the suffering that you want to avoid could possibly visit you in some other form as perhaps you have previously mentioned.

One of the teachings of Billy's that helped me the most to face life and conquer fear are the affirmations that he has put together to make changes in thought and therefore the entire man. Here is the link... http://clemmm.googlepages.com/Meditation_aus_klarer_Sicht_239-240.html

Peace and balance to you Matt B....
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Paarth
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dev,
I just want to reiterate a sentiment posted above, namely that you are really among friends here, no matter who you are, or what your achievements are. You are part of something eternal like all humans. And that realization exists, more or less occassionally, on this forum. In a world of social malevolence, find a little sunshine and fertile ground for growth in Billy's teachings. I am very familiar with the Vedas, and I agree with you. But the previous post got it right, go to the source. Invest the time to study this case. Contemplate each line carefully in the introduction to the spiritual teachings by Semjase. It will awake something in you. Warm regards.

Paarth
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Dev
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you everybody!

I do feel like I am amongst friends. I have read Semjase's spiritual teachings, they were beautiful and they drew me into Billy's case. I have a sense for truth, and whether that truth appears on the internet, in the Vedas, or in the utterence of a 5 year old child, I can sense it.

The truth is both logical and intuitive and our discriminatory sense that we are naturally endowed with catches them like a net.

In my case my intelligence is not so much as a problem, indeed that needs infinite refinement as well until I can know the string within the string. My shortcoming is translating knowledge into wisdom i.e. the application of knowledge into life. However, I think I am starting to do that. It might be too late, but maybe the seeds I lay in this incarnation will help my future incarnation.

In this life-time I have gained a lot of understanding as far as intellectual knowledge is concered. I have become acquainted with the Vedas, and now the Plejarens. I have gained a bit of understanding on the nature of reality and creation and my purpose(to self-realize) I have refined my thinking and my speech a bit. What I need to do now is integrate my knowledge into my life. I think the problem in my thinking is that I am treating life like a race to the end, and that must do everything, before I reach the end. In actuality I should do just enough, but the best that I can, because there is yet more lifetimes ahead.

I will try and find like-minded people in my locality. I've tried before, but I'll try again. I think that is the only way of fulfilling the social aspect of my being and bringing balance to it.

By the way I completely agree with the Birth-Stoppage policy. However, going by current thought patterns in the world, I think the humanitarian solution will fall to the man-made solution(which knows only war, greed and power) We have very turbulent times ahead and I am going to have to become very strong to face these times.

Om Shanti,

Dev
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 03:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dev.

Count how many times I or I'll was mentioned in your previous post.

It may be to your great advantage to investigate as to why this I requires so much attention. The rest will fall into place :-)
Cheers.
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Mat,
I am am 1/4 the way through this meditation course now and I already feel positive benefits from it already. I personally recommend it to any person suffering depression or has self esteem issues. It is a meditation that I found tends to breath strength into ones psyche. I also notice myself able to shake off negative thoughts with more ease.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 825
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Greetings in Peace to All, Salaam 'Alaykum

Matt,

Truly some good advice you have given. To be socially engaged, however large or small the circle, stimulates the intelligence, opens the psyche for Spiritual interaction, creates a 'grounding' energy in the concern for other Human Beings. Your advice for physical activity is Spot-On. "For unto man, it is given to earn the bread through the works." Honest labors are their own reward.

Johnny,

Keep on Keepin' on, brother. There comes a focus in your meditations when you may become aware of Light shining within, behind closed eyes. Breathe deeply of the Prana, the life-sustaining force, an energy which comes in with the oxygen. Imagine in your minds' eye, the pure white light swirling through your brain with each in-breath, to carry the grey fog out with each out-breath, until the the out-breath is also as clear. Then continue with your meditation. Good to hear that you are getting good results now.

Dear friend Dev,

Have you come across this Tibetan phrase used in some meditations = Aum Mani Padme Hum.

Certainly, I'm sure you already know this one. You know the AUM, of course, is the call to Bhraman, a greeting to the awakened one.

The phrase, in total, is to say = "Greeting to the Bright Shining Jewel of Intelligence" ( original is Lotus = the thousand-petaled flower of the mind). This acknowledges the Intelligence of Creation as the Spirit of oneself shining within.

The Spirit of Creation, the light within every Human Being, is honored, respected, and loved here. This naturally includes you, friend among friends. This is one of those Truths we learn along the path to knowledge to Creation. Already, I see growth in your understanding, so continue in studies of the Truth which come back to us from the Stars, back to us from Billy.


aum

In Peace ... Salome

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Dev, I think I understand what your problem is. You quite possibly have an old spirit, and due to so much illogic, misleading, degeneration etc. in the current societies on Earth you have difficulties connecting with it, and without ever meeting another person like you loneliness has struck you. However, in your search for truth you have found it, as you are here at FIGU.

I would say that you should continue reading/studying Billy Meier/FIGU material as you will recognise the truth easily and your consciousness will develop respectively. The contact reports and the other articles such as FIGU Bulletins which have been translated and posted on
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page
will be quite a good place to start, and also being here on this forum. And in the future you may eventually buy some books.

You should know that you are not alone, and it is up to you to do whatever you do in life. You should think about what it is you want to do and then plan to do it. Although there is currently much wrongness in this world you cannot reject it, as you live here and it is your responsibility to find purpose and fulfill your desires as a human being. If you really want to find someone who is like you and lives near you, you will if you direct your thoughts in that way and never give up. Also, the "Meditation from Clear Sight" Matt talked about and linked in his post #79 may be helpful.

Salome, Reece.
Reece Stiller
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Creational
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear members,

I hope all is well with everyone. I apologize for not responding to some feedbacks to my recent posts. I was out of town only to come back to a crashed computer system.

While my technology is being updated, creating limitation for me to be more involved, I wanted to share this video that someone has sent me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA&feature=related

Note how many people viewed this video and other ones by the same guy.
Perry, The governor of Texas also seems to be hinting for the separation with Ron Paul supporting the idea, as Billy warned us.
http://www.voteronpaul.com/newsDetail.php?Ron-Paul-on-CNN-s-American-Morning-864

Any feedback?

Salome


Dear Zhila,
Just a reminder the forum is not a place to discuss politics, we used to have a topic on government and politics and it was closed down.
Peace.. Badr - Moderator


(Message edited by badr on April 21, 2009)
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Creational
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Post Number: 310
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Badr,

The references made in my post #308, regarding current earth events is to point out the possible unfolding of one of Billy's prophecies; whether it is regarding politics, environment, science or any other subject matter. In fact, this sort of things are what the prophecies are all about. Ae they not?

It seems almost impossible to separate these if we truly want to have a total and accurate approach to matters related to the material.

However, If this sort of discussion start to detour to specifically politics only discussions, that is where I think there should be a halt.

Of course, it is understandable that this may create more burden to you guys as moderators to have to constantly monitor for such detours, and I don't think there is anyone here that does not appreciate your efforts. But in my opinion, total band of subjects is also out of balance and does not correspond to Billy's teachings at all.

Salome


Hi Zhila,
Then can you move the discussion to the prophecies and mention the prophecy you are referring to so people are aware of what you talk about even if your post is the first thing they read on the forum for the first time.
It seemed to me you are discussing US politics, rather than its relation to Billys warning.
And for people that are not living in the US and have no right to vote, and have no personal ties to the US it is a bit of a useless topic to discuss US politics on the forum especially that this is an English forum and not American. That was the reason I said what I said. But if you were going to keep on track of what was said by Billy then sorry for the interruption.
Peace.. Badr - Moderator


(Message edited by badr on April 22, 2009)
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Badr.

The video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA&feature=related has the hallmarks of being part of "Current Worlds Events"

Might I explore this thought with the members.
Please skip the contact notes if you are familiar with them.

From Asket contact 1. Date/time of contact: 3rd February 1953.


70. Less than 1130 Earth years ago, three races capable of space travel, from far galaxies of this universe, dispatched their expedition ships, and advanced to the Earth.
71. They explored this world with small scout craft, and also made contact with priestly Earth humans, secretly and unrecognised, in order not to spread terror and angst.
72. They heard and learned from the Earth humans the insanity of their ideologies and religions and suddenly they believed themselves to be disadvantaged and falsely led in their own philosophy of Creation and in their own evolution of consciousness and spirit.
73. As a life form still very spiritually underdeveloped and underdeveloped in consciousness, the Earth humans were able to throw these foreign life forms into doubt, and to sow discord among them.
74. Yet, was that any wonder then, if it is considered that very highly developed life forms from foreign galaxies visit the Earth, and here suddenly are instructed that they, as a race which has developed very far, are to have been disadvantaged by Creation, because, allegedly, Creation personally made Itself known to a still very underdeveloped race, and they themselves, as a much higher life form, were passed over.
75. Where was the blame to be found here, that Creation created its only begotten son, and transferred him to Earth to a poor, underdeveloped people, and did not create this only begotten son for the much higher developed life forms?
76. Thus this insane information was spread on three distant worlds, and announced to the races, which had, for thousands of years, lived in peace, love and in complete harmony among themselves, and with all forms of life.
78. After the return of these expeditions, it was concluded, after exact clarifications, that all peoples would be instructed according to the the terrestrial Christian religion, and indeed, in all matters.
79. This was a fatal error, because, within only eleven years, this peaceful humankind from a distant planet, having previously lived only by the creational laws, changed itself into the faith-based, Christian image of the Earth human.
80. At first, fights and discord originated only in the narrowest circles, then, however, everything expanded very quickly, and it came to public unrest.
81. Already the life forms soon murdered each other, until everything degenerated into a malicious worldwide war.
83. Different space-faring races became attentive to that, and finally intervened, and forcefully terminated the deadly discord, which had already slowly carried itself into the entire solar system.
84. The terrestrial religions, brought there through the expeditions, and the destruction-releasing Christianity, were strictly forbidden to any life forms.
85. All existing religious material was destroyed and the old way of life again became the highest law.

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My apologies for presenting such a volume of material but it has a purpose.

You might from this conclude that the mentioned spacefaring races in spite of their technology, history of peace, advancements etc were still dumb enough to listen to a load of rambling psycho babble mumbo jumbo spurting from the sick minds of a bunch of whacked out priests living in the dark ages.

So in spite of their granduer & sophistication those spacefarers were to all intents dumb as a post.

What happened then ?
Other spacefarers probably somewhat smarter stopped the carnage .... but in their wisdom left the source of this cosmic insanity intact at it's source.

So instead of cruising about the universe, leaving it on the shoulders of Billy and hoping for the best maybe some tangible action like overwhelming the major commercial broadcasting networks with such a message for a few days might actually have an effect of waking the people.

Hats off to whoever made that video :-)
At least someone is showing some awareness, courage & responsibility.
Cheers.
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Badr
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ramirez,

You don't need to ask for permission on what to discuss on the forum. If you discuss things in the light of what FIGU has published to this date and reference parts of the material, then you don't need to worry about anything.

Just remember its the FIGU forum. And so FIGU related discussions are always welcome.

Peace
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Yoid
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where can I find writtings about economic collapse and what happen after it?
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 848
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Hi yoid,

Here are just three among MANY. (not "live" links, copy/paste)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCt2yRqlCcQ

http://www.ehow.com/how_2130484_survive-total-economic-collapse.html

http://www.hermes-press.com/collapse.htm


*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Yoid
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks J Rod7
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Corey
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez: over 19 million people have been murdered and slaughtered by Earth religions and religious sects including the Chrisitian religion of course, at least that was the fiqure given in 1992 in the 249th contact correponding to a similiar fiqure.

If I personally was from a more advanced star sytem and my people had waged a war amongst each other and we had destroyed three planets over an isolated false religion from another planet in another system I am certian I would have felt like trying to return to that paricular planet and warring against the lesser developed people because of the losses of my people and destruction etc; even if I had to wage war against my own government on the way there.... I guess what I am saying is be glad that didn't occur at all. As for negativity transpiring on Earth (-) events connected to religion are probably absorbing some previous positivity attmepts (+) such as flying discs impulsed to German scientists which could have brought about an early form of world peace in the 1940's or perhaps even earlier, no direct landing in the United States,and the past time distrubance Zentrum of the Bermuda triangle etc. Perhaps 1000 or 2000 years time or even longer when we earthlings are more technologically developed and and beginning to develop spiritually etc, some races out in space may not want to associate with us even in a future tense due to some of the transpirings here on Earth/ I guess what I am saying in the future perhaps when we may not always be well recieved when we are visiting distant planets systems and peoples some peoples if some of our growing pains have affected other peoples. Religion is obviously a problem we need cease and work out ourselves.

Here is an example which is taken from the pamphlet entitled Contact 241-243 specifically quoted from contact 241 from Feb. 3rd 1992 @ 11:33 pm page 14: "-Considering that in the last 10 000 years the Earth has just experienced just barely 250 years of peace, and if one divides those into the past 10 000 years, one could get sick to one's stomach. As far as we know in our and the DAL universes, there does not exist anywhere another world and another mankind that comes even close to the mad and insane terrestrial machinists. We are well aware of warring human races on many planets in the vastness of space in the two universes familiar to us, but none comes even close to the terrestrial mankind's statistics. One of the planets of which we are aware, who has spent the largest amount of time at war over the last 10 000 years had a total of 4,062 years of war, which means they have had 5,938 years of peace. By contrast, Earth's mankind barely had 250 years of peaceful years." They also elaborate on how there is nothing like us in our energy production from nuclear reactors and the waste we make and remember their federation spans 48 000 000 light years (a) into both the DERN- Schöpfung die sich entschleiert and DAL- Schöpfung als Zweitgeborene universes.
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Corey
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Post Number: 162
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Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess what I am saying is be appreciative for the mission and the information in it's current form,

(a) contact 357. Also keep in mind we are told that just in this galaxy there are over 3 670 000 combined higher and lower developed human civilizations and in the DERN universe Plejaren scientists estimate that there are over 6 000 000 000 000 to 7 000 000 000 000 essentialy human civilizations of higher and lower form existing in our space time configuration Contact 228.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Reports
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 146
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey.
Maybe we have the mission because the inhabitants of this place are the only ones coping with religion & priests. It's a seriously deranged planet.

Need someone to save us :-)
Cheers.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe that's the type of thinking that got us into trouble in the first place ; for "someone to save us" .
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 147
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Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quite right Markcampbell :-)
Cheers.
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Kingman
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Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Truly, that required someone who needs to 'save us', can only be our own selves. As I am able to understand through my research into Billy's materials, the responsibility to create a better world for us Earth Humans is repeatedly confirmed in the words he shares to be the individual you see in the mirror every morning

I can see how this near revelation of self-responsibility, if it were to take hold on all areas of our planet, would quicken our evolution as an agreeable galactic civilization, thus we could then be helped in many needed ways by others with greater knowledge/wisdom, etc, and yet still being in proper creational harmony. Not just being 'saved' by others from ourselves and our responsibilities.

In a way, the political change in America is a step in this direction. We may not know exactly all that U.S. Pres.Obama plans on executing during his time in office, we can say there was an awareness boom from the citizens here that denied the previous evil-doers from jacking our future around so easily.
a friend in america
Shawn
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 862
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Posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*****

Certainly some disturbing news concerning Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs). From Dr. Michael Salla, Ph.D. ...:

Solar storms - the real threat to US electrical grid, published online at the link...:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner%7Ey2009m4d9-Cyberspies-or-solar-storms--the-real-threat-to-US-electrical-grid (copy/paste link)

"...the real threat (is) posed by solar storms – as National Research Council scientists warned in their 2009 report.

"Among the most significant problems discussed in the New Scientist article was the threat to electrical transformers that would be fused and destroyed by solar plasma hitting the Earth. Reports are emerging that action has already been secretly taken to deal with the threats posed by Solar Cycle 24."

Action? Secretly taken? Is it enough? Why haven't WE been told?

Solar Cycle 24 is expected 2011 or 2012.

Compare the size of Earth to this view of one Solar Prominence.

CME-sun

See the potential problem here?

*****
You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Kingman
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Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it would be interesting to note that Quetzal has informed Billy of the error of our current calendar. Our actual year of our calendar should read about 4 years later than what we understand it to be. That would place us already in the time frame of the 2012 Mayan calendar ending.

While many people are believing this date of 2012 to be a time of some sort of Earth changing energy, I feel it may have more to do with the reasons we are experiencing an unusual sunspot cycle.

So, if our calendar is adjusted to now and we are actually already past the 2012 ending, where's the fireworks? It does seem that if we were to consider all the different challenges facing us at the moment, a huge CME would outdo most of these earthly worries by a long shot. But at the moment I'm more concerned with today, as that is always in my face and I can actually do something about it.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Bianca
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Post Number: 12
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Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rod,
I met M. Salla a few years ago and much later I came to the conclusion that he doesn't really believe his own ideas, he 'makes up' this un-believable stories for for the general population, ( i may be very wrong, maybe Michael Horn has a better idea about his shenanigans) and maybe that's how he chooses to make his daily living? shame really but... or he may be really confused in his consciousness.

As to the Solar storm, could this possibly be not just a natural occurence but also because of Haarp? Have you read the article on They Fly?

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