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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:51 pm: | 
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Every once in a while I test those groups of men & women who might have the capacity to rule themselves, or at least have access to the knowledge necessary to do so. From my tests, there is no question that the Rothschilds are in legitimate and rightful control of the Earth, even if they have obtained this power through crime, etc. Why? Does this mean I agree with their means? Does this mean that I think Henry Kissinger and his ilk are good guys? No, it doesn't. However, just as during the Middle Ages, terrestrial humans are not quite ready for self-rule, and so barbarian kings must make them serfs. Although I try to coax some reason and rulership quality out of the populus from time to time, as my ideal government is indeed a democracy, I project that for at least 500 more years the Illuminati will be dominant upon this planet. I do not blame them any more than I blame you, man of the Earth, for whatever tyrannical methods that government, which is already secretly in place, may use.
I shun criminal abuse of the population just as I shun ignorance and weakness, because my main concern is my own spiritual evolution at this time, although I heartfully wish that y'all would stop attacking the environment and overpopulating, etc. The Illuminati will solve these problems in their own malicious way, since you haven't. You watch.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Syn
Member
Post Number: 199
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 03:49 pm: |
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holy buttercups, HR 1207 got 222 sponsors, thats a majority of the house!!!
ron pauls audit the fed is going through the house right now. its gonna get interesting 
and now, its time for the big event, getting it through the house then the senate.
its now on like donkey and diddy kong doin the kong all night long with a shalong in shao kong with lil dong goin to the long pickin up some rong and bakin' some gongs.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Jimmy
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 05:38 pm: |
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Kingman
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Post Number: 630
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 07:45 pm: |
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Matthew,
Illuminati. Is this a particular group? Do they have names you can speak? Kissinger? Who's their current leader. Are there any photos of them leaving a secret meeting? How many governments do they control from the shadows?
I would bet that people so powerful in this position of, 'ruling the world', do not trust one another in the least bit. If what you say is completely true, I can't visualize any of these 'top dogs' allowing someone other than themselves to make critical decisions for the world. Who bows down to who? I don't doubt there are small groups that have control over certain aspects of society and they have designs to become the ruling party for a one world government. But the, 'all mighty'-super sekrit-Illuminati, is hard to acknowledge.
You speak so assuredly about this group I think you may have infiltrated their world. Please don't offer David Icky as your source, because credibility is what is required for a resource.
Maybe you just mean, 'The Evil Doers'.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 08:44 pm: |
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Syn,
HR 1207 represents little more than the longstanding infighting between the Rothschild & Windsor factions of the 13 families. Nothing truly new.
If they are saying that '222' sponsors have signed on for it, this is rather curious to begin with, isn't it? Such a blatant symbol of duality may be a sign of a schism, or even worse, of duplicity. As in, there might be something hiding beneath the cover of this act.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 09:04 pm: |
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Michael.
Dr Greer makes no claims to being a prophet.
Shining flashlights at specified places during specific times in the desert will surely bear light on UFO's ... well maybe occasionally the US black ops ones being tested so the boy scout hikers get a treat, part company with a few hundred dollars, listen to some stories around the campfire ....
Greer just doesn't seem the type who would use the proceeds of his "training" or "instructional" excursions to line his own pockets. I suspect that except for bare minimum necessities similar to Billy the remainder goes towards the sponsored researchers at the MEG project.
In their own way his group are as dedicated as Billy's though working on different projects.
Billy takes care of the guideline publishing aspect whilst Greer handles the energy problem.
Does Billy praise & support Dr Greer publicly ?
Whilst you may or may not be aware Dr Greer's group does contain at least one impulse recipient and you know we cannot name names publicly.
To Greer in his mind he is doing something real with a tangible outcome possible, whilst Billy lays a foundational groundwork which is .... way behind schedule.
In essence isn't the the substance of Billy's foundation supposed to be the entire Contact Reports plus several books (OM, Goblet Of Truth .... more) acting as a collected body of knowledge. It might exist partly finished in German.
Also consider that Billy wont appear in public so that aspect leaves his motives suspect .... to Greer anyway. Look at how many ex military, air traffic control, pilots etc have risked their careers to step forward publicly as disclosure witnesses during public events & telecasts.
We know the reasons here why Billy wont appear but try convincing others.
Greer is a hands on action driven get results man who has managed to get his effort organized and assembled around him a dedicated team.
Billy's task is in various ways more difficult due to the overall primitive average level of awareness permeating society at this time compounded by a tradition that Prophets are supposed to be able to perform spectacular miracles.
That is Billy's dilema, the books and contact reports whilst quite spectacular to a person with sufficient consciousness & awareness are just mumbo jumbo to most and nowhere near enough of a circus act to impress the majority of society who would however respond to cars, houses removed from the grid etc which can run perpetually with no fuel at no cost.
That is a materialistic reward for sure .... but one which is understood.
Cheers.
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:07 pm: |
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David Icke - Big Brother, the Big Picture (July 6th 2008)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4799447112501062338&q=4799447112501062338&ei=aqJzSKXlE5SK2wLd6JGoAQ
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:22 pm: |
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Kingman,
I find that people tend to dismiss primary sources.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Syn
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:08 am: |
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matthew that was the dumbest load of crap i seen on this forum besides jpm and his pelegon self discovery trip shattered by billy.
how in the hell did you come up with that conclusion about 222. its a 1 page amendment to remove audit protection of the fed. and you want to connect that to something as stupid as you have said.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Michael
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Post Number: 819
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:35 am: |
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This is the FIGU forum and, while we discuss all sorts of things, the main purpose really is to explore the core elements of the information and teaching. Central to the teaching is the power of thought, referred to as the most powerful force, second only to the spirit.
While there are many "stopped clocks" in the world, people who may be right about some elements of this or that problem, i.e. conspiracy, etc., the teaching in the case is absolutely not about conspiracies. It is not even about fixating on the various evils of the world to the point of being contaminated on any level by the negativity that comes from dwelling on them, as opposed to acknowledging that these things may exist, to lesser or greater degrees and to pursue neutral-positive thinking in dealing with them.
For instance, the Salome peace meditation doesn't focus on all of the evils of our world, it seeks to strengthen the positive to help dissipate and overcome the already existing negative.
At no time during my 10 years of visiting and speaking with Billy did he ever take me aside and say, "Okay, I think we can trust you enough to tell you that it's actually...the shape-shifting reptilians that we're most concerned about." Maybe I need another 10 years of visits but the funny thing is that none of the other people around Billy, some for 30 years or more, have uttered a word about it either. Are we to marvel at just what a tight-lipped conspiratorial band THEY are, or are they yet to be entrusted with such secrets themselves?
Rather than continue to suspect that the PoZ, David Icke, Reptilians, etc. are such hot buttons that Meier and the Plejaren won't speak their honest minds about them - in contradiction to decades of existing evidence to the contrary and to their policy of not commenting on things rather than give outright false statements - let's leave that stuff to the forums that deal in the circular conspiracy theories and hysteria that accompany such. The real "reptilians" are the ones that we conjure up in our own minds, feed fear and energy to, and thereby cause ourselves to waste our precious time, energy, life force and...peace, when we should instead be focusing on the evolution of our consciousness.
Michael Horn
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Earthling
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Post Number: 259
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 12:01 pm: |
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Just like to say to Michaels above post #819 ; my sentiments, exactly.
All that reptilian this, conspiracy that, is just entertainment, a diversion from what one should be focusing on.
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:36 pm: |
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Michael,
Your views on 'feeding negativity' are simply wrong and do not seem to be from the spirit teaching at all. Billy tells us to accept reality, not to ignore the negative because it 'feeds negativity' to do so.
You are also quite wrong about conspiracies, & even though the Pleiaren have a directive preventing them from directly commenting on secret governmental matters, they nonetheless have done so on many occasions, and, when necessary, got around that directive.
It is a good idea to observe and understand how groups like the Illuminati are able to maintain such control over such a large number of people when there are so few of them. In fact, the force of thought is their main tool, the tool of magic--most of their 'insurance' in their operations is the occult manipulation of the course of thought and fate/weird upon this planet.
It is not the Pleiaren's responsibility to lay everything bare for us, as we must figure out the puzzle for ourselves.
It IS our responsibility to know how things truly happen in politics here on Earth, because otherwise there is little possibility for doing anything but falling for their ruses.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1806
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 02:35 pm: |
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Matthew,
Do you feel you are being influenced by the "Illuminati"?, because so much of what you write about seems to have that element interwoven into it.
Scott |
Michael
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Post Number: 820
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 02:52 pm: |
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Matthew,
I think you are projecting some things here that I neither meant nor said. Note, "acknowledging that these things may exist, to lesser or greater degrees and to pursue neutral-positive thinking in dealing with them." This isn't to ignore anything but, well, read what I actually said.
Your own words here contradict the idea that the Plejaren and Meier are doing some extraordinary backbends in regards to the PoZ, Icke, Reptilians, etc., "even though the Pleiaren have a directive preventing them from directly commenting on secret governmental matters, they nonetheless have done so on many occasions, and, when necessary, got around that directive." So...why haven't they in these cases? Could it, just possibly be because these aren't what you are making them out to be?
Of course it's our responsibility to "figure out the puzzle for ourselves" as it is to remember that the "force of thought" is OUR main tool as well.
As for knowing "how things truly happen in politics here on Earth", I disagree. We may know how some things happen but it's more important to accept/understand THAT things happen and, in considering and contemplating the laws of cause and effect, we can see how those things that are indeed negative will also bring the consequences back to the perpetrators, while through our proper practice of neutral-positive thinking and understanding of the laws, we can accelerate the process, while not becoming enmeshed in it needlessly through unnecessarily dwelling on all of the dark details.
Cheer up!
Michael Horn
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 03:45 pm: |
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Scott,
The Illuminati, 13 European families/dynasties claiming direct descent from the tribes of Israel & the royalty of Babylon, along with many other historical figures of note, are the ones behind the European Union dictatorship (as Billy calls it), the forced microchip implantation Billy warned about, and the last 2 world wars (they financed both sides; among the 13 families are the Rockefellers, Warburgs, Krupps, and Rothschilds, all of whom were deeply involved in funding Hitler & Stalin). Much of their success is not through direct manipulation, but through their knowledge of the occult, including the teachings about the power of thought. This is the scientific reason for their use of 'satanic' rituals. The intensity of thought & mental forces, etc., aroused during these rituals allows them to project a thought-form into the mass human subconscious, which emerges at the opportune time in -reality-, just as our actions emerge from our subconscious after we have consciously set out a general plot and desire, etc., as described in 'die Psyche'. It is clear that even absurdly wealthy and powerful individuals such as the Rothschilds could not take over the world without the help of such principles, because of the number of details involved in ensuring that every necessary circumstance comes to be.
Part of this is simply mass psychological manipulation, or mind-control. It is known that the majority of humans do not act consciously, but develop wishes/desires, propositions, ideas, etc., based upon sensory input and simple manipulation of emotion. Thus, free will can be circumvented by something as simple as a subliminal message riding a sexual 'carrier', or by religious belief, etc. However, in the past century they have gone much further than this, developing such weapons as HAARP and other ELF transmitters, which can literally produce emotions, seizures, or insanity at a distance (isn't there a page about this on the English FIGU site?), microchip implants with the same basic effects, etc, etc.
Since the 13 families are effectively in control of the world, having cybernetic hierarchical dominance over the would-be free will of most humans and keeping occult knowledge nearly entirely to themselves, I think that their power is of concern to anyone who honestly wants to take control over the course of their own fate & that of their environment.
However, they aren't the only group with these powers. There is also the Japanese Illuminati, who include the Yakuza, in Japan, North Korea, etc., splitoff factions within the Illuminati hierarchy, and a surprisingly large group of Nazis who want to recreate Hitler's empire. If terrestrial humans want to control their own fate, they must control their own thoughts through controlling wishes, plans, etc., and thus moulding the subconscious. At present, most terrestrial humans simply react based upon whatever is programmed into their subconscious emotionally, through manipulated desires, etc.
The 13 families also own and control most of the world's major religions.
What I find disturbing is that most of this is hardly secret any longer, thanks to the internet, and yet so many people would still rather just believe whatever they hear without mentally digesting a thing. Such goes also for the nude belief without cogitation in statements by the Plejaren about the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Chemtrails, David Icke, etc. Since they are not permitted to make direct comments on many of these matters, I take these as their indirect confirmation of these facts, for those who can perceive it/fulfill the necessary requirements.
Isn't 9/11 itself enough to prove that there is a very powerful group out there with exotic technologies at their disposal, who also have a very strong influence over what gets reported by the media, U.S. governmental offical sources, etc?
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 05-2009
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Syn, according to Alex Jones' website, only 213 co-sponsors have signed on for the bill.
I have found that Illuminati-controlled news sources often modify numbers to fit an occult meaning, even if these are not very accurate. This goes especially for numbers killed during murders, etc.
Ritualism is very commonly included in world events.
And if looking for mathematical patterns is dumb, in a world where the average person can't even calculate the tip on a restaurant bill, I suppose that the staggeringly low probability of these numbers collectively occuring so frequently is also 'dumb'. I suppose it is 'dumb' that Swissair Flight 111, carrying U.N. officials, crashed off Route 333 in Nova Scotia. I think you're dumb. It's sad, because you have no excuse for it, since I assume you are not cerebrally deformed.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Scott
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Post Number: 1807
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:18 pm: |
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Matthew,
Thank you for your explanation. Currently during this time in history, do you feel you are being influenced by these "forces"? Almost all of your posts as I mentioned before are interspersed with these themes. To be honest it is grating on my nerves considering the volume of material presented by the Plejarens which is designed to bring us out of material thinking into learning the lessons of spirit which will free us from this limited view of life. These ideas of race, secret societies etc...are part of the Piscean era and will fade away as we progress into this new age. Hopefully we can implement this spiritual knowledge sooner than later, because mankind is sorely in need of enlightenment. Possibly some of the things you have presented to this forum are true, maybe yes, maybe no, but what does anyone gain from this in the long run?
Scott |
Syn
Member
Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:13 pm: |
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oh god here we go again another repeat of jpm.
david icke isnt stupid nor is everything he says is false. what he does is mix truth with lies in and people tend to look for the truth and then assume the rest of his crap to be true also. its a very easy tactic to pass off something as bs to be true.
the illuminati was just a simple blood line from all the way back in the 1600's. if your listening to that alex jones crap hes been talking about dont take everything he says seriously as he was caught MANY times over in his own lie, even ron paul says hes a little nutty.
and this depopulation crap alex jones talks about the nwo is bogus. he tries to link it with the georgia guidestones.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely—improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion—faith—tradition—and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth—beauty—love—seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth—Leave room for nature—Leave room for nature.
sure it sounds fishy in current times but in the end goal this is what would make a good guideline.
population wont happen for a long time or until people gain trust in their officials.
reproduction wise, good luck with that one especially with the nazis experiments.
uniting humanity is the best and extremely important.
but ofcourse alex jones doesnt mention the rest and the 3rd one. alex jones is stupid narrow minded and just in it for the money and power. its disgusting as i cant stand listen to that guy anymore. he thinks everything is propoganda.
bleh anyways thats my piece. matt, you shoudl always investigate everything and know everything before you go talk about issues you dont know fully well. only talk about areas you are certain 100% with irrevocable proof.
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Syn
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:55 pm: |
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matthew
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19818
currently its actually at 223 sponsors. we just have to wait for the bank committee hearing.
scott thank you you beat me to it. its the same as all these conspiracies you hear about it. so what? it happened, if it didnt oh well. billy is different atleast there is knowledge for us to get serious about.
>.< god im hungies.
anyways i used to be indulged into this conspiracy crap, but then i eventually realized that it wasnt leading me anywhere. and then i found out about billy where he actually had a message and that i canh improve my life on that. so far i had tremendous results, my thinking is clear even though my choice of words is horrible >.<.
and then it was just blown outta the water when i seen addendum and the venus project which now i am dedicating myself to grab hold of my bonds in canada and considering investing in some money to help get the venus project rolling.
anyways brb imma make me a sammich :D
They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then the truth as the authority
-Gerald Massey
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 05:32 pm: |
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Scott,
Because I think that the prophecies as well as current events suggest that if we do not do something about the fact that organised crime controls most of the world's free energy, weapons stocks, etc., we will have to suffer through 500 years or so of dark ages before we begin to see the truly positive effects of the Age of Aquarius. There is no question that the 'New' World Order is little more than feudalism, and there is even a 'New' World Religion to go along with it. Their power is so materially great at this point that it is probably best not to directly protest. Perhaps I am doing little more than what Billy is doing with reguard to the now inevitable natural disasters. At least it is an exercise of conscience.
But if men & women are aware of what the Illuminati are capable of, they can also use this knowledge to empower themselves and become rulers in their own right. If, like the Illuminati have, people acknowledge the fact that there really are perfectly good alternatives to oil & gasoline out there, that alien craft have been recovered and partly reverse-engineered, that there is much power in astrology, numerology, etc., then they can use this knowledge, this 'Illumination', for their own ends, and not necessarily bow down to false religions and ultra-rich white people who come from a handful of bloodlines.
Even though the Illuminati are quite malicious and ruthless, one can learn a lot from them about positive ways of thinking, too. They are extremely confident, never assume that they can be defeated, have access to the best of everything in the material world, have knowledge which few others do, feel like the deserve everything, etc. If students of Billy's Spirit Teaching develop similar attitudes, witout the arrogance, malice, and disreguard for Creational laws, the establishment of a true democracy and world government on Earth by rightful rulers would become much more feasible and likely.
In relation to direction by the 'forces' of the Illuminati, all Americans and Europeans, Australians, Canadians, etc, live in their fiefdom.
Has anyone noticed the very directed effort in the USA alone to eliminate freedom of speech, opinion, religion, the freedom to disagree with the federal government, etc? Under Bush they called those who could recite the constitution 'left-wing extremists' and 'terrorists'. Now they call them 'right-wing extremists', 'racists', and yes, 'terrorists'. Same shit, different toilet. It seems like they've just change the direction they're square-dancing in, but any observant man or woman can tell that they are goose-stepping their way to totalitarianism in all cases.
Thus, if Obama does -anything- good, it will be in defiance of his Illuminati advisors like Brzezinski.
There is a real possibility that FIGU could be deemed 'extremist' in the future, especially if they get away with creating a 'New One World Religion' like they have been planning to. Thus, I think we should all be concerned about this social tendency.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 06:03 pm: |
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greetings Matthew,
are you in total support of the FIGU mission? have you found the truth?
Jun |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 631
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 07:14 pm: |
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Matthew,
Seriously, just let this drift into the background. Your steadfastness is honorable, but your stubbornness is poopy! Maybe turn down the volume a little. I think I can gather your absolute position on this issue so I will just relax. It's agreed, we disagree and that's quite alright.
Salome brother,
a friend in america
Shawn
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Sparky
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 07:33 pm: |
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Hey Syn,
I'm also a Canadian and agree with you on the whole Venus Project thing. Have you heard about the New Zealand Venus Project? They are working on building a Venus Project City in Northern New Zealand. They are also trying to make contributions tax deductible.
In respect to what is possible, I would say that we should definitely not underestimate humanities potential to change for the better. |
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