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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1019
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Could China and India go to war over Tibet?

By Dan Twining, Tue, 03/10/2009

The New ForeignPolicy.com

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/could_china_and_india_go_to_war_over_tibet

Let there be Known Truth, That there May be Peace

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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 19
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dev,

China and India are not fighting. There are no such reports. It appears that China is doing reconnaissance incursion to test Indian response and to make a political-military statement to establish first to the world and then its citizen that the area is disputed territory. It happens everywhere around the world across hot borders and especially in times of economic doom when citizens need something to unite nationally. I am sure such acts from the Indian side get reported in Chinese media (only).

As far as I have read, the Henoch prophecies does not specifically mention Indian PM, but mentions that 4 world leader will die in quick succession. This is nowhere to be seen yet.
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Peter_brodowski
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey there dev,
i did not miss any of your points. i think as it stands, we already know that for some time there has been times where a world war 3 was closer to becoming possiblity, and further from possiblity.
i think you missed my points. but in anycase, we'll see what happens.
if worst comes to worst the entire northern hemisphere would be destroyed. no great white north, no eifel tower, no sssc, no figu.
i do not know about you, but i think that is what you call gambling. if you catch my drift.
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Dev
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Dev.

Where are you getting such ideas"

The article you posted is not the source. Here are my sources:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-China-armies-clash-in-Sikkim/H1-Article1-447812.aspx

The Indian and Chinese armies have reportedly been locked in sporadic exchanges of fire in Sikkim, where the two countries share a high-altitude border, since Tuesday night.

A senior defence ministry official in Kolkata, where the Eastern Command is based, said the conflict had been on at Nathu-la pass — 54 km east of Sikkim’s capital Gangtok.

In a statement issued on Thursday, the Ministry of Defence, however, denied any shooting on the border.

The defence official, who refused to be identified, said, “The gunbattle intensified during the early hours of Wednesday. There are, however, no reports of any death or serious injuries.”

War Rheotric:

China should break up India: Chinese strategist

http://news.rediff.com/special/2009/aug/10/china-should-break-up-india-suggests-chinese-strategist.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KG10Df01.html

Indian might met with Chinese threats
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - A series of steps taken by India in recent months to build up its defenses along its disputed frontier with China has prompted an angry response from the latter.

In June, General J J Singh, governor of the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh and former chief of army staff, announced that India would be deploying two army divisions of around 25,000 to 30,000 soldiers each along its boundary with China in Arunachal. A few days later, four Sukhoi Su-30MIK combat aircraft landed at the Indian Air Force (IAF) base in Tezpur. The IAF announced plans to increase this to a squadron strength of 18 aircraft.

The recent moves along the Sino-Indian Line of Actual Control at Arunachal "have no aggressive intent" but are simply aimed at "putting in place credible active deterrence against a vastly better-armed giant neighbor", a Defense Ministry official told Asia Times Online. It was intended to meet "future security challenges" posed by China, Singh said.


Indian Army fears China attack by 2017

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News/newdelhi/Indian-Army-fears-attack-from-China-by-2017/Article1-393140.aspx

The Indian military fears a ‘Chinese aggression’ in less than a decade. A secret exercise, called ‘Divine Matrix’, by the army’s military operations directorate has visualised a war scenario with the nuclear-armed neighbour before 2017.

“A misadventure by China is very much within the realm of possibility with Beijing trying to position itself as the only power in the region. There will be no nuclear warfare but a short, swift war that could have menacing consequences for India,” said an army officer, who was part of the three-day war games that ended on Wednesday

India surrounded by Chinese bases

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_magazine&opt=section&ptype=video&videoid=56636&part=3&sectionid=86&secid=42

China's military drill worries India

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_magazine&opt=section&videoid=56445&sectionid=86&secid=42&ptype=video


It is very clear all of this is pointing to a coming war between India and China and the preparations are already being made on both sides for it, with China especially prepared and mobilized for war, giving India little reaction time.

Recently a major Indian defence analyst has predicted war with China could break out by 2012, because after 2012 India will be prepared. It is not prepared right now, giving China the perfect opportunity to attack. And all signs clearly are showing China is gearing up for it.

Do you remember the predictions of Nostradamus how the red army would march into Europe and trample over 1/4 of the population on the way. This may well be an indication of India.

These are the most scary developments so far and very much in line with the prophecies of Henoch. We could be in WW3 as early as next year.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 264
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So are you having restless sleep and biting your nails down to the elbows fretting about the possibilities ?

What tangible benefit does it bring you to dwell on such things ?
Cheers.
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Dev
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Post Number: 21
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramirez,

It sounds like you are trying to provoke a fight with me. You don't like the message, so you think shooting the messenger(me) will solve the problem.

This is not just some speculative possibility, China is preparing for war with India. It has been confirmed by the Indian Army, the Indian Navy. And border fighting has started. I just supported all of this in my previous post with sources.

This is perhaps the most clearest confirmation of the Plejaren prophecy we had so far regarding WW3. If we want to stop WW3 we need to stop this India-China war from happening.
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Creational
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Post Number: 350
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear all,

A new report was released today by the International EMF Collaborative entitled "Cellphones and Brain Tumors: 15 Reasons for Concern, Science, Spin and the Truth Behind Interphone".

http://www.radiationresearch.org/pdfs/reasons_a4.pdf

Salome,
Zhila,


Thank you Billy.
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

From the Henoch prophesies

http://www.theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm

Quetzal
And China becomes dangerous, especially to India, as also at this time China maintains uneasy relations with her. China will attack India; and if biological weapons are used, around 30 million human beings will be killed in the area of and around New Delhi alone. However, this will not be the end yet—because the effect of biological bombs and missiles, etc., used cannot be controlled at that time, and terrible epidemics unknown up to that point in time will arise and will spread quickly to many areas. Also Pakistan will allow herself to be misled to instigate a war against India, which will be especially dangerous in view of the fact that both countries are developing atomic weapons.


Im sure most of you remember the shootings that to place in Mumbai, India last year. After these attacks western governments, Politicians started showing up in India and Pakistan. So possibly this could be the part of the prophesies that mention pakistan being mislead. But also it could be possible that China misleads Pakistan to attack India. I am not sure on this point.

But in the prophesies is clearly mentions China will attack India.

Is this prophesy being for-filled right before our eyes?

Thanks
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Karrol
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

India Predicts War with China by 2017-Press TV 03-28-2008
www.globalresearch.ca

The Indian army has predicted a war with its nuclear-armed neighbor China by 2017 as Beijing continues to strengthen its military muscle.

A secret military exercise, called 'Divine Matrix', by the Indian troops visualized a war scenario with China, the Hindustan Times reported Saturday.

"A misadventure by China is very much within the realm of possibility with Beijing trying to position itself as the only power in the region," a senior army officer told the daily following the maneuver.

An Indian military's assessment has outlined that Beijing would rely on information warfare (IW) to bring New Delhi down on its knees.

Earlier on Wednesday, the Pentagon released a report warning that China was busily trying to arm its forces with weapons that can be used to nullify the superiority of any naval and air power that could disrupt the balance of region.

China is concerned about growing ties between Washington and New Delhi. A controversial deal allowing India access to civilian nuclear technology has not been well-received among Chinese officials.

New Delhi, meanwhile, is suspicious of Chinese relations with India's long-time rival Pakistan.

India and China fought a brief but bloody war over border dispute in 1962 with a decisive victory for the Chinese.
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Dev
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Post Number: 22
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow this is very serious. Such advanced and immediate war preparations could mean this war could happen within a few months.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/After-LAC-incursions-China-now-violates-Intl-Border-in-Ladakh/articleshow/4978371.cms

Breaking News:

After LAC incursions, China now violates Intl Border in Ladakh

LEH (J&K): After helicopter incursions into Indian airspace, the Chinese Army has brazenly violated the International Border in Ladakh region
and painted boulders and rocks in the area red.

The Chinese troops entered nearly 1.5 kilometres into the Indian territory near Mount Gya, recognised as International border by India and China, and painted the boulders and rocks with red spray paint, official sources said.

The incursions were reported from the area, generally referred in the Chumar sector in east of Leh, and painted "China" in Cantonese with Red spray paint all over the boulders and rocks, they said.

The 22,420 ft Mount Gya, also known as "fair princess of snow" by Army is located at the tri-junction of Ladakh in Jammu and Kashmir, Spiti in Himachal Pradesh, and Tibet. Its boundary was marked during the British era and regarded as International border by the two countries.

The border patrol discovered the red paint markings on various rocks and boulders along the Zulung La (pass) on July 31 and the Chinese had entered into the area and written "China" and "China" all over the place, the sources said.

When asked to comment on the issue, an Army spokesperson declined to answer any queries regarding this saying it was an operational matter.

This is clearly indicating war. The recent border incursions, the war rheotric appearing in Chinese media, the violation of air space, the violation of Indian waters by Chinese war ships, the unprecedented drills on the Indian border.

Why would China attack India now? As a major Indian defence analyst has recently stated, China can only afford to attack India now, because in 5 years time India will be too powerful for China to attack. It lays claim to the entire North Eastern state of India. And it is clear it wants to get this by force.

But China will not just invade the North Eastern State. Once it has occupied it, it will continue to move further into India. We are talking about the demolition of the entire country.

It is clear a war is coming. But how soon? Meier said WW3 will begin in a month of November. Could be it November 2009?
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone who wishhes to help, to make some noise, please see:

http://theyfly.com/Easter_Island.html

...and realize that this is yet ANOTHER (and the most recent) corroboration of Meier's information, scooping scientists now by 20 years!

If you belong to other groups, forums, blogs, bulletin boards, etc., please help break the suppression and embargo on this information.

Meier was told that it would be at the time when the prophecies and predictions begin to be fulfilled that he would finally be recognized as the truthful prophet for these times, at least among many more people.

So here is more proof of that.
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1023
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hi Michael, Greetings All,

Reference to the Easter Island Update is now posted in a new Thread at...:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16355

If of members from the Forum here would drop by this address and leave some comments, that would help to "Bump-up" the rating there to attract more of the "locals."

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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE

Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1024
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Best Greetings All,

The LCROSS impact on the Moon is on schedule for 0730 EDT (0430 PDT), 09/09/2009. This post will likely be too late as a notice for observation of this event.

However, it's very likely that a PLUME could persist for another day or two, depending on how HIGH the dust and debris rise above the surface.

The plume could reach 100-miles, more or less. The impact site will be in a crater at the South Pole of the Moon. Since the Moon revolves once per 24-hours (due to Gravity Lock, the reason the same side is all we see from Earth), the North-South pole-alignment of the Moon is directly towards Polaris -- the North Star (else we would see the spin).

This puts the South Pole impact on the lower right edge of the Moon as seen from our perspective. Example: If you live at 35-degrees N.-Latitude, the South Pole will be at 125-degrees from "top-dead-center, i.e. 35-degrees below horizontal on the right side.

Any such Plume may be visible with a good set of Binoculars (stabilized).

Let's hope the ETs don't think that this a "War-Shot."

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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE

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Enlightenedatlast
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Post Number: 20
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Rod,

I am looking at the Nasa.gov website with the LCROSS information right now, where do you figure the impact is today 9/9/09?

From what I am seeing here at the website, the impact is for 10/9/09 set for 4:30 am.

In any case, I agree... I hope that the ETs don't think this is an act of war, I hope they, the ETs, realize that our scientists are just idiots out for their own praise and recognition in planning such an idiotic mission to search for ice/water on the moon.

Nasa Link: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/

Salome to ALL.

Amanda
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JRod
Where did you get this information? The LCross is scheduled for Oct. 8th and the plume can only reach a height of six miles before the moon's gravity will pull the debrie back down.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 265
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr Jones gets the prize. Yes in October.
Cheers.
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J_rod7
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Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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[ "LCROSS and LRO launched on Thursday, June 18 @ 5:32pm Eastern Time. Projected Impact at the lunar South Pole: Oct 9, 11:30 UT (7:30 EDT, 4:30 PDT)" ] ---

--- Source: http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/

Amanda, Jonzie, and all,

I am wrong in my calculation; Oct is indeed month #10, not #9. I'm still wrestling with the year 2009. I apologize for this obvious error.

Salome

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Edward
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael....

Am familiar with D & V's translation to your link.

Billy, did indeed 'hit the nail on it's head', there!

Some serious Facts and Proof, I would say....


Not to forget, that last week, I think it was, the islanders were protesting
against the tourism! They want a stop to it, and let the grounds be left as
they should; more damage is being done to the grounds as well as idiot
tourists whom hack off pieces of the statues, to take home as souvenir, alas.
Some people just do not have manners!!

Edward.
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Johnnybalmain
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Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you human you
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 152
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All

Humpback Whale Found In River Thames

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090914/tuk-humpback-whale-found-in-river-thames-45dbed5.html

Excerpt -

It is the first time ever that a humpback has been found in the river.

The young male was first spotted in the water on Thursday.

It was not seen again until it was found dead on Saturday morning near Dartford Bridge.

Initial examination suggests the creature may have died of starvation


http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/249th%20Contact.pdf

Excerpt -

Ptaah:


...For decades now he has been under the steady, greatly enhanced influence of artificial electro-magnetic waves, or rather oscillations, which greatly exceed the normal, planet-related measurements and are generated by Man's own thoughtlessness. As a consequence, he is now, and has been for some time, incapable of applying and relying on his magnetic sense. Hence, he can no longer recognize, grasp and perceive many items and events in nature in the manner that animals are able to, although their magnetic sense is increasingly harmed also through the irresponsibility of mankind on Earth. Birds and animals, for instance, are guided by their magnetic sense during their annual migrations or flights from one region to another when they frequently traverse many thousands of kilometers.



The longer they are exposed to this electromagnetism, the more the magnetic sense of orientation of these migratory animals and birds is upset and causes their death for many of them. Whales, for instance, lose their orientation and become stranded somewhere on river banks or in the rivers, where they die a terrible death; a situation that is increasingly becoming more common even for other aquatic wildlife forms. With increasing frequency, herds of many wild animals are losing their sense of orientation because their magnetic sense is upset. This causes them to flee and plunge, panic-stricken, over cliffs and crevasses to their death, etc. Thunderstorms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, as well as other great calamities of nature's elements also produce increased magnetic waves or oscillations. Animals and birds sense these increased electro-magnetic oscillations and behave accordingly. They flee or seek sanctuary elsewhere.
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Mavi
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peace and Greetings, I remember reading in a Billy's book about how people were going to kill elders, etc. watch this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOEySX_Pric
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Joe
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Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two whistleblowers independently report teleporting to Mars and meeting Martian extraterrestrials: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Two-whistleblowers-independently-report-teleporting-to-Mars-and-meeting-Martian-extraterrestrials

Does anyone know if there is any information in the contact reports about there being a "jump room" in the CIA facility in El Segundo, California? I dunno whether this is disinformation because what has to be taken into consideration is that Billy Meier had already taken a photo of an American satellite that was orbiting Mars back in the mid 1970s.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Garbage disinformation.

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