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    Darren Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2009 |
"I don't think the country really wants anyone as intelligent as Obama leading them, as it's too foreign to their self-identity." Hi Michael, what do you mean by that? Are you saying they'd rather prefer some dumb idiot like G Bush over Obama during these troubled times? | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2004 |
Good to see your photons again, Michael : ) Would rather it were over some other topic, though. I have kept Zombie files for awhile, just on all the corruption going on. On Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and now Obama. Obama is doing some good, but in the background, unseen and unreported, there is another story going on - not just wild rumors, either. We all love Hero's, and can find hero's all over. But these people should find their way into public leadership, not by deceiving all of us who so crave a hero, but by actually being a paragon of good, honest, real wisdom. I am open to the truth, whatever it might be. It is too bad that what is paraded endlessly as truth, and debated by unbiased experts, is filled with not just innuendo, but secrets, deceptions, propaganda, and on and on. It just takes the wind out of my sails. Would rather talk about other things, though, especially on this board. Love is always the way | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 304 Registered: 05-2008 |
Sitkaa, I am no great fan of Obama's, but your swallowing the entire Obama character-defaming hatchet-job 7 course meal cooked up by the right wing in the USA, is no different than someone falling for one of earths falsified religions. Please use some logic & common sense before swallowing and then prosletyzing 2nd hand half-truths and outright lies, whether they are about some political figure, anything or anyone. You should know better. I second everything M Horn writes above. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2008 |
UFO alert: police officer sees aliens at crop circle http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6394256/UFO-alert-police-officer-sees-aliens-at-crop-circle.html | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 379 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Michael, Thank you for your no nonsense and to the point logic. You could not have said it any better. Salome with love, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 09-2009 |
Michael_Horn, You say no one called bush on economic policy and immoral wars. I think you forgot about the moveon.org movement. Maybe I heard more about it because I am along the conservative line, but there were many demonstrations and activists mobilized when Bush went to war in Iraq. Also, when Bush was doing the bank bailout there were the Tea Party demonstrations that spread all over America. I think that America has been due a civil war for a long time. When I was doing my travels around the country, when I was down south all I heard was how people are just waiting for the moment to step up. My wife and I were talking about this last night. Individuals like Alex Jones are trying to incite a riot instead of using their voice to help steer people in the right direction, but instead trying to cause a civil war. For instance, if we are going to be represented as a planet to the rest of the universe we as a people need to have a one world government. From what I've learned is the Plajaren use a system where they have the most intelligent people who are spiritually in line as their leaders. By having a one world government that is just and logical a third world war would not be needed because everyone will have the chance to be brought up to the same level of prosperity. This is just my opinion. | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2004 |
Earthling, you are right. I should know better. And I strive to. Love is always the way | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 306 Registered: 06-2008 |
Mail call for President Obama. Whether he reads these or takes any notice is anyone's guess but they have been sent. A good read for everyone and recommended. http://www.disclosureproject.org/PDF-Documents/ObamaBriefingIntroLetter.pdf http://www.disclosureproject.org/PDF-Documents/ObamaBriefingIntroduction.pdf Two very small .PDF files 45k + 95k. Cheers. | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 09-2002 |
"I don't think the country really wants anyone as intelligent as Obama leading them, as it's too foreign to their self-identity." I agree with Michael. Misery loves company or should I say stupidity. Obama isn't perfect but most people underestimate the power structure he will have to go up against in order to change anything. He will need the help of the American people and what are the chances of that happening? Mark Gilbo | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Mark (Mgilbo1), "...He will need the help of the American people and..." To me, your statement above is the core of humanity's problem. Humans historically had; presently are; and it seems that in the future will want to be too dependent on outside forces to resolve their issues. Corrupt governments, delusional religions, iconic gurus, worshipped idols, envious neighbors, sibling rivalry and so on, are the products and creations of those looking outside of themselves avoiding self responsibility in the interim. After all, who are THEY? It is and has always been US. I think when we realize that each individual’s competitions is him or herself to improve and evolve to a better self and not the guy next door; that is when we will be on the right track. Once this issue is tackled on an individual level, only then the exponential evolution of humanity as a whole will occur. Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 683 Registered: 07-2004 |
Sitkaa, Your talking head points of unsubstantiated events around Obama have left you exposed as a believer, IMO, of course. To address the baseless evidence will be unnecessary. You have said everything I needed you to say. In the future, it may behoove you to research deeper than a single layer of poo. It's dirty there, I know. But once you sift through all that delightful waste material any foraging pig would squeal for, a new day will eventually dawn on your thinking. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Once you've caught up to a reasonable perception of what we deem as reality, your opportunity to actually grow as a human spirit will move along more readily, rather than wallowing in the stagnant negative belief you have absorbed. The real truth is we don't know the truth in all its completeness. But this doesn't make room for false realities to exist. In my opinion, I can't fathom you've really made any real effort in collecting your, ahem, excuse me, "Zombie" file. I'm unable at this time to create an image of a learned researcher of Obama behind your 'informed' post to myself. I care not to hear a response from you, as this forum is not about carrying on about any US President. But using this site as a place to spread false info about any US President will be met with requests for your sources. At least by me. Have a good day. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2004 |
Creational, yet again I gotta agree with you. This is the crux of the issue: "After all, who are THEY? It is and has always been US." Self-reliability, self-responsibility, can be a touchy btch, no doubt, but it is the only way to really go forward. Now all we gotta do is figure out a way to follow what few pearls we know to be true. Love is always the way | ||
Karrol Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hi Michael, In regards to your post about getting the religious leadership in the US what are you referring to? Also, do you know what the likely cause of the civil wars in the US will be? Thanks, Karrol Steeves | ||
Mgilbo1 Member Post Number: 95 Registered: 09-2002 |
Creational, You may be over thinking a little (at least with my response to Michael, but I'll bite). Everyone knows the problems that encase the world today and the humans upon it. Its not rocket science and I think most of us wouldn't be here today on this forum if we didn't have the capacity to understand it. But just as Billy has had a tremendously hard time getting his message across to the world, even with a higher level of help, so will Obama. What you call a core problem, I call reality and deal with it as such. But dealing with internal problems are much more different than dealing with external problems that involve other people, other belief systems, other social systems, languages and more... Do we know the world will change one person at a time? Yes. But I'm under no ILLUSION that changing almost 8 billion people will be a cake walk. Nor do I underestimate how much work on all of our parts it will take to make it happen. Mark Gilbo | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 384 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear Mark, Your response came as a surprise since my post was written in total support of yours. I merely added my observation and noted what I thought was logic behind why we the people would not support Obama, since we do not want to take responsibility, again, in total support of both your post, Shawn's, Michael’s and others. In fact, while reading your post, the legendary statement of Kennedy “And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.”came to my mind. There was absolutely no intention either directly or indirectly in my statement to reveal a “rocket science” unknown to you or anyone else in this forum. It was a mere friendly support with my added observation as to why we do what we do, as today’s human being with limited spirituality or lower evolutionary state. You said; “What you call a core problem, I call reality and deal with it as such.” Well, core means the center, the heart, and the foundation. The truth is also the center, the heart, and the foundation, as the teaching applies. Reality is truth and if it is not; then IT SHOULD BE. So reality must be the foundation also known as CORE. Hence, What I called core and you called reality is in fact the same and again, if it is not, then it really should be or we are in trouble as you and I noted that in fact, we ARE indeed in trouble. Then where is the dispute? However, I do regret if my statement came across as offensive in any shape or form since it was meant purely complimentary in nature. Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2008 |
World's Largest Pyramid Discovered, Lost Mayan City Of Mirador Guatemala CNN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voY8jNcuGe8&feature=related Does anyone know if the lost Mayan City Of Mirador, Guatemala pyramid is mentioned in the contact reports? I typed "Mirador" in the search but got nothing and "Guatemala" which got a few results that had nothing to do with pyramids. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 06-2008 |
Current Earth Events .... Problems and questions ? No problem at all, ask Dr Fred Bell who claims to have the secrets to .... a lot of things. Here is his site, have your questions and credit card ready. http://www.raysoftruth.tv/ Two things stand out .... claims a contact with Semjase in 1992 as well as contact with the Andromedans. So were the Plejaran not exactly telling all to Billy regarding other contacts and activities ? Who knows maybe they really did visit California to reveal a host of secrets to Dr Bell ..... he claims that is true. Including .... Insights Into Pleiadean Science & Society: Learn more about pleiadean technologies and how their advanced society works. Then. Dr. Fred Bell explains: "I was playing for about 500 people in a concert hall, using Pleiadean ship sounds and wrap-around sounds of the Roland D-50 synthesizer and all 500 people were energized on that Fire Starr and chakra frequency. Suddenly, we had a group of Pleiadean ships hovering overhead, and people were seeing them through the windows. Then the German Air Force came out and started chasing them, after which the police arrived and cordoned off the town of Marnau. So this was a very exciting evening." Who among you would want to miss all this and far more ? Is this the place where all the juicy secret stuff Billy never told you about is revealed including ..... The Firestarr Orb is a communication technology given to Dr. Fred Bell from a Pleiadean woman named Semjase. The way to communicate is really through the human aura. The Firestarr orb is an interdimensional transmitting receiving antenna that develops psychic resources of practitioners to become a contactee, clairvoyant & channel with higher beings of the Universe. It clears blockages in the human aura and chakras/endocrine centres. Also please note: The company is registered in Cyprus. Hopefully Michael might comment or know if Billy admitted in private that yes for real Semjase visited Dr Bell and passed on details of the claimed technology. Who knows in this world where truth is stranger than fiction .... sometimes  Cheers. | ||
Indi Member Post Number: 352 Registered: 06-2006 |
Ramirez do a search on Bell on the forum, and you will find quite a few comments from the P's and Billy re his claims: here's one http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/4199.html#POST14464 Edwards post #488 There are others as well. Robyn | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 513 Registered: 10-2005 |
Ramirez, Fred Bell was considered a delusional person, he was mentioned as a member of a group of liars, frauds, deceivers, and charlatans who claimed to have contacts with the Plejaren but didn't. The idea of chakras was also mentioned as new age malarky... Salome | ||
Creational Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 09-2008 |
Dear All, Here is a very interesting four page letter written by Matthew Hoh, the senior U.S. civilian in Afghanistan's Zabul province, who resigned in protest because he believes the American effort there is simply fueling the insurgency. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/hp/ssi/wpc/ResignationLetter.pdf Salome, Zhila, Thank you Billy. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1299 Registered: 02-2000 |
Jgarbush, Where were all those great Tea Baggers when it came time to protest the wars? I'm sure they would have been out there if there was a draft & their kids were going. That's why Bush did everything he could to avoid implementing the draft. Now they are being fooled by the big Medical industry about health care now. They jump on any anti-Obama thing they can find. Bush screwed everything up now Obama's getting the blame. Too top it off if Obama gets to independent he will be knocked off from the powers that be. My Website | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 312 Registered: 06-2008 |
Greetings Rarena & Indi. Thankyou for the thread link. Yes everything is explained and makes sense. Should have used the search function. This site uses paid advertisements in google which pop up all over the place. Without going there most likely it's full of interesting stories including those about wonderous technical gadgets and discoveries revealed by the secret P sources plus off course links to all manner of places where you can buy the purported gadgets. On the surface it appeared very suspect so after a short witch hunt to confirm it's status, Fred Bell's raysoftruth joins the ever growing database of places mommy warned you to stay away from. Cheers. | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2009 |
Norm, You've got a good point, but I ask you another question. Where are all those liberals when a liberal wants to go to war. I think the lesson to be learned is that both parties think it's ok if their party goes to war but not the other. Also, I agree with your last sentence. One more thing. My wife always reminds me that a dictator is put in place because the people are willing to recognize his/her power. If people as a whole failed to acknowledge the power of their government and the ruling elite the world would be a different place. I'm not saying anarchy is the way to go, but I am saying we as human beings have a choice and choose to act powerless. |
