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    Schantz Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 03-2007 |
In my post above I should have stated that I can prove in a court of law that the information on the IIG website is false. I have the documentation to prove it and they know it. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1097 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Thank You Michael. I'll see if it will fly. Jgarbush -- GOOD Question::: [ "Also, where is contact report 7?" ]. It IS missing from the list at TheFutureOfMankind website. Your best bet would be to get the DVD of the Contact Notes Vol-I, from http://www.theyfly.com/ In the meantime, there is a synopsis of this Contact Report here: ... http://www.theyfly.com/ContactNotes.html Salome *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2009 |
Schantz, Would you mind passing that documentation off to us? If you need to mail it you can send me a copy harygarfield@gmail.com | ||
Bodhran Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi Schantz, I agree with you about IIG, it's already been proven by Michael Horn and other members of this forum that IIG, specifically Derek Bart has made false claims regarding their "evidence for hoax" ( The Marcel Vogel testimony for example) and point blank refuse to discuss anything that contradicts what they say. I pointed out the obvious flaws in their wedding cake carpet tack theory to Derek on another forum and despite wading in on many other topics he refused on multiple occasions to answer my questions which reeks of cowardice and means he obviously has no intention of looking at this case rationally. Can I ask you to tell us what you have on the shady bunch? Salome Tony. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 02-2009 |
Schantz i am person who didnt laugh nor felt that its a hoax when i firt saw laser gun,2 years ago.(while many did)because i simply dont know.its too stupid to comment on anything without studying the case of the concerned person,in this case billy meier. i dont work with or support IIG,i am not interested to be a part of deluded bunch of idiots.i even found many faults with their assertions in their website and also pointed them in ats forum.though they also indirectly help in dissemanating the case... well coming to images i uploaded futureofmankind.co.uk ...wat i thought was if we answer the glitches[plausible denaiability] by posting the questions which skeptics frequently pose...it will be of much helpful to those generations who are unborn in the future,and are seeking the truth...so in short,my idea is for the futureofmankind.co.uk website to show all sides of the case and pretty well answer everything there is and make those skeptics think again.....which they havent done in the first place... bdw i just now got "through space and time"album which i have ordered...its amazing... Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Mahigitam, A very noble thought but please be careful not to play the skeptics game. Billy has given enough proof for the authorities to take notice and the truth-seekers to get attracted to the case, but not so much as to emphatically remove all doubts (as you say...plausible deniability). Not everything and anything being raised by the skeptics can be answered in a simple way because the circumstantial evidence is only available to the CG49 who have read the contact notes as soon as it was written down or maybe to German audience who can read the notes much before the English speaking world does. I have an idea here - why don't you prepare a document listing down all the questions raised by skeptics so far and answered by FIGU plus the questions raised by the skeptics that has not been answered so far. From there it will be possible for you to prioritize which are the pressing questions which needs attention and can be answered without need for circumstantial evidence. Then we can discuss those in the forum without worrying about each and every questions. Just a suggestion. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 186 Registered: 01-2009 |
Mahigitam Why dont you write an article on futureofmankind explaining why all the pictures and statements for the pictures you added are false, manipulations and copys of Eduards real photos? I am concerned with you motive here. You posted this picture http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:Kalliope.jpg with a description "Meier's ex-wife has said the UFOs were models" WHY? Eduards ex wife took a lie detector test and past and has signed an afrodavid saying Eduards contacts with the Plejaren are real and she has seen the Beamships. Surely your not saying that the supporters for the mission are liers. My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2009 |
Smukhuti,Stephen_moore thank you guys for ur support... actually i planned to post these photos along with the explanations in futureofmankind.co.uk.... and i found a page "Contamination or hoax evidence article, Internet, January 2009" ...so i felt i cud post photos of those which are raised by many skeptics as evidence or Contamination of hoax...but its not the place where i cud post the explanations... as stephen moore said i shud prepare a new document explaining the reasons behind those pictures...before posting there in the website,i will post here so as u guys can verify it and add more data to it. well about the kalliope picture,from what i know is that she passed the PSE/Lie-Detection tests and was also witnessed the spaceship with other group members..ofcourse later in the mean time due to personal problems,she burnt alot of photos ,negatives and after divorce she came back full circle saying that they were models.... also about the burned ufomodel photos which martin sorge got.It was actually kalliope who gave it to sorge who then went on blah blah...i read Gary Kinders "light years"..in that book martin sorge accepts that meier was in contact with ET's but feels that it was of different nature...also if i am not wrong those models were made by bilys children at that time,to take a few photos to see how they wud look... yes,i agree we cant convince anyone with those explanations but i thought it wud be helpful for a healthy skeptic to consider the amount of disinfo and contamination the case faced... Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 02-2009 |
hey guys bdw,derekcbart in ats forum pointed to couple of radio shows and said that jim dilettoso said the wcufo pics were fake.. i also found many faults with the radio hosts of paracast..i dnt know who they are..but they seem to enjoy critisizing,slandering,character assasinationing of other people and not interested in anything and laughing at everything.... check this out... ------------ By derekcbart, "These are the links to Jim Dilettoso saying that the Wedding Cake UFO is a fake and that he was unaware that Michael Horn was still using his 20+ year old analysis and presenting it as though it was recently done: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/april-27-2008-x-conference-2008-3-hour-special/ http://media.podcastingmanager.com/21059-20107/Media/Paraculture%20of%20Concast.mp4?ref=rss " my asnwer: " Jim Dilettoso saying that the Wedding Cake UFO is a fake " at 1:59:20[of www.theparacast.com]Jim actually said there are two ways 1-subjective brain-mind-eye thing 2-Data model,which i havent done that clearly says that he has not done any data processing of WCUFO ships and hes just letting out his opinion according to wat he has seen & analysed many other UFO pics in his life(most of them are fake and are not at this close distance from the camera to make a clearcut judgement)... SO this clealry is not a healthy skepticsm sir...taking opinions rather than facts... ---------------------------------- IN that audio at 1:40:00 and 2:00:00,jim says he never said that those crafts are of paranormal nature... i agree with him he never said that those were of EXTRATERRESTRIAL in nature,what he said was there was no evidence of hoax... i didnt find micheal horn saying anywhere that jim dilettoso anlaysed and found that these were of EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPACECRAFTS.. -------------------------------- At 1:46:00 JIm says that the equipment he used at that time was almost same as the equipments used in present day technology[MEDIA CYBERNETICS]..u will hear him say "fourier transforms are fourier transforms,histograms are histograms". he concludes that only the resolution and speed of the machine changed but the analysis procedure pretty much remained the same... ------------------------------- photo analysis document is for free at www.theyfly.com but not for $30 as the guys in the radio show says...seems they really know nothing except bad mouthing,character assasination and laugh at anything that doesnt make sense to their minds... ------------------------------- also in the radio show,they say "BIlly said that he was the reincarnation of jesus".. BIlly never said that he was the incarnation of jesus anywhere..if u can show me.try it... this is misrepresenting facts and called disinformation.. Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 308 Registered: 07-2008 |
Greetings out there, Mahigitam, I second the stances of members Schantz, Smukhuti and Stephen Moore. Your intentions may well be honourable, but the way you went about them, i am afraid, is rather unfortunate: posting those pictures without/out of any context does indeed look pretty suspicious and certainly, not quite neutral-positive. In all your presentation - as in the example indicated by Stephen Moore, above - you left out both the factual context and, most importantly, the other side of the discussion, that is, the explanations of Billy and FIGU, falling thus short to realize your idea, which is " for the futureofmankind.co.uk website to show all sides of the case[...]" Besides, 'Future of Mankind' is not exactly what one could call a 'photo gallery' or a 'Corner for the Skeptics'. I think, it would be fair to state, that there are three - progressive in time and depth - stages in the structure of Billy's materials, which one may experience and/or go through : - the material evidence ( pictures and other samples aiming to draw initial attention to the case); - the message, the Teachings themselves, the Mission; which one would acknowledge, study, analyze, understand...; - the application of the Teachings in one' s own life and view of the world (an example of that could be the efforts to realize the birth control program of Billy/FIGU, at both personal and public levels ). I would bet, that most of those, who work at/consult/visit 'Future of Mankind' are at the last two stages: the study of the Teachings and the application of the Teachings. The way it now is, your contribution could be seen as 'rolling back the tide', for, twisting pictures, material evidence, is truly behind the effective, current mode of temporality of 'Future of Mankind'. So, if you wish to correctly fulfill your plan, do then please launch a page at the site with a specific name/title, the way member/contributor J. Jensen is currently so rightly doing - a title like 'A Sample of Meier's Pictures and Their Opponents'; 'A Couple of Meier's Alien Pictures Hardcore Skeptics Questioned and Meier's Reply'; 'An Example of Controversy in Meier's Case'; 'Meier and His Detractors: Some Twisted Alien Pictures'; 'Material Evidence and Contamination'...could do. In short, your imagination/creativity is the only limit here. Objectivity would then be better served. Salome, Adam. (co-administrator of 'Future of Mankind') | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2009 |
I think it's time to take a little firmer, clearer stand regarding IIG and Derek Bartholomaus (DB). Unfortunately, the following statements are factual: 1. DB claimed that Meier used model UFOs and model trees and then had to retract that statement, his foundational premise that Meier hoaxed his evidence: http://theyfly.com/newsflash91/Top_Skeptic_Fixed.htm 2. DB falsified my email to make it appear that I said something that I didn't (and apparently still has it posted!): http://theyfly.com/SkepticsCaught.htm 3. DB lied to the forestry experts claiming that James Deardorff and I had said that the forestry experts had commented on the UFOs in the photos. Neither Deardorff nor I ever said any such thing, we only referred to their comments regarding the trees. Their comments went unchallenged for over 20 years and it was only when Bartholomaus distorted and lied that they, understandably, denied making the comments about the UFOs that were never attributed to them by us in the first place. 4. DB tried to get Uncharted Territory to retract their unambiguous statement regarding the impossibility of Meier hoaxing the UFO circling the tree video, which they didn't. He created a false scenario pertaining to forced perspective and then asked them to comment on it, a scenario for which he provided zero evidence, of course. 5. DB was so inept and incompetent that he based his critique of Marcel Vogel's metal analysis on an error that I made in copying information into a document. In other words, he did zero actual research into the facts of the matter, which were certainly never hidden from him. On the contrary, I had offered him Vogel's videotaped analysis and informed him of the book that it was also in. He never accepted my offer, not apparently did he obtain and study them on his own. And, of course, he misrepresented the information about the sound recordings analysis as well. 6. Bartholomaus and his organization had at least SIX YEARS to thoroughly research and assemble their case for presentation - and to present their photos and films duplicating Meier's, as had been my original challenge to Vaughn Rees of CFI-West (now CFI-West/IIG) which they had accepted. To date this has never been done. There are only a series of photos of obviously small models and no film clip whatsoever. (It should also be noted that DB was the only person who scripted every word of their presentation in The Silent Revolution of Truth and as such cannot claim that he was in any way tricked by any questions, etc. As a matter of fact, when I do get to ask him a question at the end of the interview he affirms that it is indeed his position that Meier used models to hoax his evidence...a claim that of course he later had to retract.) 7. DB has pointed to documents on the internet that have apparently been posted subsequent to my research and, of course, which were not ever shown to be available to Meier, in order to try to impeach Meier's credibility. However, Bartholomaus was very unhappy that, in my rebuttal to him in our film, I had responded regarding the Lyon nuclear power plant prediction with another, earlier document that I too found subsequently on the internet and that not only further supports Meier's specific warning about that power plant but which wasn't available to him either, having only been posted well after even my own original research. 8. DB continues to misrepresent the photo of Meier standing in the middle of the circle of static electricity, claiming that it shows Meier making the effect by swirling around burning steel wool, etc. However, it is not only clearly stated that Meier is holding a microphone above his head to try to record the sounds of the UFO, it can be clearly seen...as it can be clearly seen that Meier's hand is MOTIONLESS while the circle whirls and surrounds it. 9. I have sent Bartholomaus links to the Hasenbol article (and practically everything else I've posted) and I pointed out that Meier and Yaoi can be seen walking next to the tree(s). This further completely destroys the model tree argument and, of course, there's been no response from DB. 10. DB's attempts to "deconstruct" the WCUFO are effortlessly refuted by: http://theyfly.com/Dyson%20Debunks%20WCUFO%20Skeptic.htm http://theyfly.com/New_Photo_Analysis_Shows%20.htm 11. It's now also time to point out that the film clip made at Hasenbol shows: "This was the last movie sequence Meier has filmed to date. The analysts examining the movie footage from this last event were amazed to find that what at first looked like a flash of reflected sunlight from a part of the rim of the ship and an area of the dome, was in fact a projected beam of bright coherent white light from something. The beam is clearly seen and it is sharply distinct and does not spread out as it leaves the ship. There were pine tree branches visible in the movie frame that are clearly blowing in a sharp breeze of perhaps 20 knots. There is no apparent wind effect on the spacecraft. The spacecraft withdrew and Meier packed up and went home in the dark". (See: http://theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis.pdf) DB and his merry little band should also be asked to not only explain it but to...duplicate it. A "projected beam of bright coherent white light...it is sharply distinct and does not spread out as it leaves the ship."!!! These things have been hidden in plain sight for a long time and now that there is more and more attention being focused on the case the failure of wannabes like DB and associates are going to be strongly illuminated by some very coherent BEAMs of bright light. DB and his thoroughly defeated associates have engaged in truly despicable lies, manipulations and distortions. They came to this with their minds already made up that this was all a hoax, to quote Vaughn Rees, "an easily duplicated hoax". They cannot accept that the evidence itself makes monkeys out of all of them, so they've had to make sure by making monkeys out of themselves. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 754 Registered: 03-2004 |
To Michael Horn: I have a serious question for you and it is not an attack but only an honest question. Do you have permission of Jim Dilletoso to sell his report? The reason I ask is because I heard the audio of the link mentioned in a previous post and he clearly says that he did not give you permission and that he does not approve of you selling it. As I said this is not an attack but I think it needs to be cleared up unless you are going to stop selling the report. I might have it wrong and maybe you have someone else's permission who has ownership of that report. I know that BEAM authorizes you to represent the case, but as I understand, BEAM is not the owner of that report. I don't want to jump to conclusions so I am going right to the source of the answers...in this case, that is you. Thanks for your response :-) Thomas patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 03-2007 |
From the IIG website. WWIII Prophecy Deconstruction CLAIM: Billy Meier Predicted That Four Heads Of State Would Die Within Seven Days Of Each Other And This Would Signal The Coming Of World War III IIG’S FINDINGS: The Four Heads Of State Did Not Die Within Seven Days Of Each Other, Nor Were All Of These Active Heads Of State At The Time Of Their Deaths. With the deaths of these four individuals Meier and his supporters professed that the above prophecy had come true. Niyazov was the only active Head of State when he died, but we can let that slide for our discussion. False! Meier and his supporters never professed that the above prophecy had come true. Starting backward Saddam Hussein died on December 29, 2006. Three days earlier Gerald Ford died on December 26, 2006. Five days earlier Saparmurat Niyazov died on December 21, 2006. The second interpretation of the prophecy is looking pretty good so far. Unfortunately for Billy Meier and his supporters, Augusto Pinochet died eleven days earlier on December 10, 2006. This means that these four Heads of State are not the Heads of State mentioned in the Contact 251, Part 2 Prophecy and it is intellectually dishonest for Meier and his supporters to claim otherwise. False! Meier and his supporters never claimed the prophecy had come true. November 2008 Update: Since originally publishing the research into this prophecy of Billy Meier's there has been some debate as to whether or not Billy Meier himself has claimed that this prophecy had come true the way that Michael Horn said that it had. A member of FIGU contacted the IIG and asked where we had gotten this information about the prophecy coming true and we replied that the information had come from Billy Meier's publicist, Michael Horn. This person then contacted FIGU Director Christian Frehner about whether or not FIGU had declared that this prophecy had come true and Mr. Frehner said that it had not. False! Michael Horn never said the prophecy had come true. Michael suggested that it may have in his December 2006 newsletter. False! Christian Frehner is not the FIGU director. False! I contacted Christian Frehner 18 months before contacting IIG. I contacted Christian Frehner in January 2007 after there were some rumors here on the forum that the the prophecy had been fulfilled. He told me in January 2007 that the prophecy had not been fulfilled. January 2009 Update: Michael Horn's initial claim that this prophecy came true has been proven false once again. The prophecy states that "within merely 2 years of these events the long-feared world war will indeed erupt". These events happened in December 2006 so World War III should have "erupted" by December 2008. It didn?t. False! Michael Horn never claimed that the prophecy had come true. False! Michael Horn stated to me and IIG that the newsletter suggestion was his and not Meier or his supporters in September 2008 and that his suggestion was a mistake on his part and he did this long before the two year period ending in December 2008 expired. IIG had all the information to correct their website long before the two years had been completed even it the prophecy had come true. IIG chose not to correct their mistakes and waited to post updates in November 2008 and January 2009 so they could make it fit their agenda. From all the above statements where I wrote false I also presented IIG with documentation over a several month period to prove their statements were false and not once did IIG ever change or correct the information. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1100 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Greetings in Peace Mahigitam, Where you refer: [ "...also if i am not wrong those models were made by bilys children at that time..." ] --- --- In actuality, there was also a very Beautiful model given to Billy from the Plejarens. It was an exquisitely executed scale model, made from fine wood, of one type of their BeamShips. I don't know if that one had been burned or not, which would be a proper shame if it were. As to the remarks given you from Phenix, it is well to consider any public posting at FutureOfMankind should be completely clear and balanced. Certainly, the skeptics are already confused enough, without casting further doubts from any of "our own team." Salome ***** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 07-2009 |
I just went to my site to check and see what it is. As far as I know, it's from Wendelle's books and, actually, I don't think I've ever sold it, as I offer the free Photo Analysis document at: http://theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis.pdf I'm not aware of selling any of Jim D's stuff. Some of the stuff in the Products area was set up some time ago for me and I didn't pay a lot of attention to it. And since I think that the report that I give away is probably the same as the one I supposedly sell, I could remove the one for sale. But if you can point me to something specific of Jim D's I'll look into it. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 07-2009 |
"As I said this is not an attack.." I don't believe that because this is a question that should have been asked privately via email and not publicly here simply because of who the person is. I see no reason to ask such a question other then wanting to make someones else's intergrity look bad or questionable. And why would anyone want to look or chase someone down that street unless they wanted to cause some kinda trouble for them. I may be wrong but this is what it appears like to me anyway. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 07-2009 |
" I don't want to jump to conclusions so I am going right to the source of the answers...in this case, that is you." ....and I hope you don't mind me putting you publically on the spot too, so if we find any dirty laundry or crap around you, your enemies will see it. I wonder about this Thomas person because I would associate that line of thinking (in his whole post) with someone who is against the mission, like as in a plant. This is not the first time he appeared to attack the mission or important people tied to the mission. Sorry if I am wrong with all this. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2009 |
Re the IIG, the thing that shocks me most is their willingness to lie and falsify information. Obviously they have an agenda and it certainly isn't to find out what the truth is. I had sent them several requests in the past to approach this differently, to even find a way or forum in which to be cooperative instead of adversarial. They never even responded to that. I pointed out to Bartholomaus that it was cowardly of him to attack on the Paracast and ATS forums when he knew they banned me from responding. But I was most surprised when I saw that he had edited my email to make it look like I said something other than I did. And it's amazing that they kept it posted despite being called out on it. So these are people in very deep denial who are VERY invested in the truth not coming out. I think that Bartholomus may be in some state of shock, actually. He really underestimated not only the Meier material but me as well. And since he showed himself to be unbelievably incompetent, to the point of having to retract his foundational claim about models, as well as running after the forestry people (and lying to them, etc.) and not getting Uncharted Territory to retract their statement, he's just resorted to pathetic measures to try to salvage his ego, since it's too late for him to save his reputation. As for the predictions, etc. It's also as Schantz pointed out. These were my thoughts, not FIGU's and I was (luckily) wrong about the WWIII prediction. I hope that I'm not wrong about my interpretation of "On a broader scale, expect a strike (NOTE: originally translated as coup) involving the USA and its president, which will stun the entire world." I interpreted this as pertaining to the Iraq War and saw "stun" as comparable to "shock", as in "shock and awe". Of course I'm hoping that this is so since the alternative, a possible actual coup involving a U.S. president, would not be great...especially considering who the current president is. Darren, thanks but I wasn't offended by the question, though I am wanting to get clarification about the idea of selling Jim D's report, etc. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 755 Registered: 03-2004 |
Darren I accept your apology since you are wrong and I merely want to see things as they are. You seem to have made an assumption about me based on one post. Shame on you. As for the photo report, it seems to have disappeared from one part of the theyfly site. I went there less than 3 or 4 days ago and it was listed at 25 dollars. Either it has been removed or something else strange is going on. I make no assumptions but the fact remains that it was listed for sale less than a week ago. I believe (to be fair) that the report was also in the free section and so it seems there may have been an error of omission. No worries either way. I was just curious and the question was a valid one. By the way the photo analysis from the Stevens material was done by Jim D as I understand it from reading Wendelle's books. Thanks for the response Mike...and Darren, try not to jump to conclusions or you might find yourself at the other end of the stick one day and you wouldn't like that. I sure don't appreciate it when people assume things about me, especially untrue things. By the way there are TONS of mistakes I have made that I am not proud of but if they involved the public, and they don't, it is only fair they would be fixed or aired out in public. Back to the learning everyone :-) Thomas patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 07-2009 |
Thomas, I actually think that it's still in the Products area but I'll be glad to remove it since it's always been available for free on my site. I think what happened is that when I "inherited" the site from the people who originally had developed it and then agreed to give it to me (Steelmark now) that the CD version was originally for sale and I simply added stuff to the site along with it. However, the text is published in Wendelle's book and while it may include Jim D's work it is included in Wendelle's copyright. So my understanding is that it's Wendelle's to license, sell, give away, etc. and I have Wendelle's permission to have it on my site. | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 07-2009 |
Thomas, no-ones integrity is perfect. I thought it was unfair to expect that from MH and to put him on the spot too. What for? (not saying MH was guilty of anything) You should be doing that to people who are working against the mission instead of people who are working for it. That's why I was suspicious of you. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 06-2009 |
Editing someone’s e-mail is not something a simple off-the-block sceptic will do. Michael, you may be right when you say they have an agenda. In another note - I just would like to share some commonalities which I observed between most UFO and paranormal sites and forum. They not only spread disinformation and misinformation, but also seem to serve a broader message:
Cocktail of fear, hope, story telling, race, religion, conspiracy, new age and profiteering.  | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 523 Registered: 10-2005 |
The report of recent mention above, if it were a part of the Steven's book, which it was... became public domain with authorization from Wendelle Stevens I understand. If that were true; Jim D. was hired by the team whom collaborated on the book(s) and I don't see a problem with Michael recouping costs for material freely given him by Mr Stevens. Jim D. may have been hired by the author as a private contractor making his proceeds paid in full at the completion of work on the book unless some contract stating otherwise can be produced and shown to Michael directly... if there is a problem with selling it which there shouldn't be... if Wendelle, the author of the book, allowed it. In other words, Michael provides a service making the Meier material available to many in the United States and other English speaking countries with his truly exceptional, excellent and honest service. |
