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    J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1122 Registered: 10-2007 |
***** Best Greetings to All, Peace be with you Dear Smukhuti, Borthwey, Sheila, and All Friends of Billy  In reference to the Organic Brain of the BeamShips, I've been carefully re-reading through Volume I of the book: Message From The Pleiades - The Contact Notes.... Finally = Found the reference written by Wendelle Stevens in the "Annotations" to Contact 6. This reads as follows: ... (In reference to Semjase's explanation of the 7th sub-stage in the 4th major stage (of 7) in the Human Evolution = [ "7) Creation of first living creatures" ]) ... [ (1) ...][ The Pleiadians use part mechanical/part organic automatons to perform specific jobs aboard their mother-ships, such as care and maintenance of their spacecraft. The beamships also have an organic part in the central computer system which has rational intelligence and can be communicated with telepathically. Thus the beamships, once finished and commissioned, become veritable living entities having a metal and composites body and equipment and a living mind. ... ] --- Wendelle Stevens  Persistance pays -- read a little every day Salome ***** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Marksmanr Member Post Number: 137 Registered: 02-2008 |
Michael, I haven't researched this myself but the 198th contact report (of Friday, November 30, 1984, 10:51 PM) seems to have some relevant prophecies and predictions which occurred between 1985 and 2005: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=386805075 I think a lot of them could be used as proof. Reece Stiller | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Rod, thanks for that explanation. I wonder if the metal composites have anything to do with the element Tellurium? Sheila Yes I've been reading the contact notes everyday...so much to learn  | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 07-2009 |
Thanks to everyone who is suggesting info for the DVD presentation. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 94 Registered: 07-2009 |
P.S. Scott, I probably won't go into the past stuff regarding Kal's antics, etc. and just leave it to him to make his case. I encouraged Garrett to write his story and am leaving on the site. I just want to focus on the strengths in the case and not the various dramas surrounding the questionable things associated with Kal - though I have already conveyed to him that being seen by many as a kind of "villain" is largely the result of how he approached everything to begin with. He didn't disagree. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 766 Registered: 03-2004 |
Thanks JRod but I was hoping for info on this technique from a source outsi= de of the Meier case.=A0 I have that book :-) patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2009 |
Thank u verymuch J_rod7 for ur info on organic brain and my questions regarding jet fighter photo.. "The description of the advancement in computer scanning and software for exponential analysis (originally developed by NASA for photos sent back from Mars probes), is found in the Photo album book: UFO...Contact From The Pleiades, Volume II, by Lee and Brit Elders, published 1984 by Genesis III Publishing of Phoenix Arizona, on page 62 of this beautiful photo album. I have the certified #4994 copy of the publishers first-run production". If it is a valid process,then why is it not much highlighted by the proponents of meier case also not showed in any of IUFOC meetings, i can see it in only the "contact" movie... is it possible for u,to send me that particular part of page where it is mentioned about that technology...Is "Contact From The Pleiades, Volume II" any different from "through space and time" photo book,which i own...if there is more information and more photos that are not included in "through space and time" photo book,i will try to buy it,though it is very expensive,some $250 for volume-2 and $110 for volume-1.... Does volume-1 has any more info and photos which are not produced in any other books...please guide me as to where can i get these.. thank u verymuch J_rod7..   Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Sheila ; It's Thulium , which differs from the other element by the lium . Mark | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 532 Registered: 10-2005 |
Thomas, Your question to J_Rod I understand... which Mahgitham asked labeled number 2 was how frequecies above visable light could be analyzed. Intercep the Arizona based company purchased a line analyzer to do this work. Jim Dilletosso did not own it... Intercep owned the line analyzer. As you may know visable light is a very very small part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Going from ELF (Extremely Low Frequencies) to Xrays and beyond there are many devices which can detect these wavelengths... There are many frequencies we (most Earth folks) can not detect in the extremely low and extremely high frequency ranges... | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 532 Registered: 10-2005 |
Jgarbush, Concerning your post #48 on Gary Kinder... Kal Korff has told people in the past that he is/was a secret agent... What does that tell you? Gary Kinder writes well and appears to be well read into the Meier case. He explains things in a well formatted, logical manner and explains facts in a non stuffy way. I learned about the book which I purchased from Amazon from a recomendation by Michael Hooten... give a hoot for Mike... eh eh... when working together with him for Billy in 2007. Mike seemed down to Earth and explained many things to me without the smear campaign Dyson and the gaia guys appeared to perpetrate on people. Am on page 154 of Chapter 8 in Light Years and so far it is indeed factual with some minor inconsitancies as to consciousness which is still far beyond what I knew in the mid eighties... so yeah... although I'm not finished with the book... Gary Kinder and his book light years does not sway me from the Meier material or make me feel it is incorrect or a lie. Also, it is imperative to understand, this is from myself... someone who has spent more than seven weeks in this area of Switzerland in the mountains near the exact spots many of Billy's photos were taken. Having an understanding of photography and knowledge of the developement of color photos, light and physics helps me to know this material well enough to understand and recognize it to be factual. The photo below shows the logpile photo in 1975 (right taken by Billy)and 2009 (left take by me). In my mind the distance rules out a model on a string since it is more than 300 yards to the treeline. Having participated in gathering wood... it is my understanding those logs are each generally about eighteen to twenty feet long. Since my photo was taken behind a rise and less in the valley the distant mountains are less visable in my photo adds more three dimensional credence to Billy's photo as indeed being real.  | ||
Jgarbush Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 09-2009 |
Rarena Don't forget he was consulted on counter terrorism and is an archeologist. I believe that in order to make up a lie there needs to be a fact in it. Thank you for the clarification on the question I asked. | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1127 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** * Hi Mahigitam, I prepared to scan page 62 of the book (UFO..., Vol II) into a PDF document, then looked at the Copyright. This says that "no part of this book may be reproduced ... without written permission from the publisher". Sorry to tell you, but for this reason I will not post the page here. There are three sellers listed on Amazon.com willing to sell a copy at US $240.00 or $249.00 each http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000PC43XS/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1259007907&sr=1-3&condition=all Mine's not for sale, but I would let you look at my book, if you want to drop by here in Florida. (Just curious = where are you located?) In Peace -- Salome * *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2009 |
Thanks Mark, but I'm pretty sure Tellurium and Thulium are two different elements | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2009 |
Forcefield or Aura surrounding beamship & jetfighter: In Supplementary Investigation Report,page no:516 "It was during one of these research steps that the computer program designer brought out the otherwise invisible heat plume from the jet fighter engine,when in the original photograph even the whole Mirage airplane was almost invisible in the distance.It was in a subsequent step in that test sequence that the "field" appeared,extending from the UFO toward the Mirage jet fighter in flight.We had selected red to display the heat plume,and this red field came out in a search sequence following that.Fortunately the man operating the 8"X10" Polaroid camera captured it before the search went on past.We were unable to find out how we did it later,but we did discover that the jet plume could be revealed another way by using certain filters and by doubling and also cancelling steps. These innovations were going on so rapidly,with so many kibbitzers offering advice,that we were not able to keep up with notes,and we do not know exactly what step produced the image of a field.We are not even sure that it is an image of a field.It appears to be that,but it could also be "noise" in the computer,and since we have not been able to reproduce the step,we have not been able to further analyze it.The only thing,if it is a "noise" it is unusual noise and not characteristic of normal computer noise in these steps. And so that question remains open.Jim Dilettoso carried that Polaroid print around with him for years trying to find out how to duplicate the step." May be this cud be the reason why the aura or forcefield or noise results are not much putforth by the investigators... ------------------------------- J rod: i am from hyderabad,india.i have seen the page no :62,of UFO..., Vol II,but it didnot reveal whether they were able to repeat the test in finding the aura or forcefield.(which was the main problem) Rarena : where can i find the "line analyzer" info? Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2009 |
[1] In SIR ,page no:515,last line, "In that top picture you see the ufo in and surrounded by smoke from a ground fire more than a kilometer away. There was no smoke near the camera."  pictures can be found at ,[PIR 358,359],[UFO contact from Pleiades,vol I,32,33] SIR-supplimetnary investigation report PIR-preliminary investigation report.. i am not able to spot the smoke surrounding the craft in either photos...are u guys able to ? --------------------------------------------- [2] In the SIR,page no :531 "Note the shadow cast on the ground by the object hovering over the stalled tractor." where exactly is the shadow?  Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 06-2009 |
Mahigitam, BTW, I'm also from India. I have been to Hyderabad before. Next time probably we can meet. The scanned copy of the picture of the ufo hovering above the tractor you have posted is of among the worst quality example of all Meier's ufo pictures. I have a coloured sample of the same photo in jpeg format which is better but not the best thing to have because jpeg pictures are basically compressed pictures. There can be no substitute of the original positive or a first copy bmp picture at least. I am not a photo expert, but shadows and all can be identified by using very easy methods of adjusting brightness contrast and angle in GIMP (a good free alternative of photoshop I use) or photoshop which is even better. Picture 1 - original Picture 2 - car shadow Brightness- 72; Colour-72; Shadow angle measured=7.35 (to the left and back) Picture 3 - ufo shadow near road Brightness-10; Colour-65; Shadow angle measured=7.7 (to the left and back) Picture 4 - ufo shadow near tree Brightness- 10; Colour-65; Shadow angle measured=16.5 (to the left and back) The difference in angle of the ufo shadow near the vehicle and near the tree is due the round shadow of the ufo projected in a upward curving ground. Picture 1  Picture 2  Picture 3  Picture 4  Salome | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1130 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** * Best Greetings A complete description of the photo-analysis, written by Wendelle Stevens, is found at the link following (if you have not seen this already, this goes into the technology available for analyzing photos). ... [Photographic Analysis]... [We found excellent computer graphics systems in production and available for use now. De Anza Systems of San Jose, California, and COMTAL of Pasadena, California offer comparable computer graphics capability. We chose Hamamatsu System's microdensitometer and scanning electron microscope modules to introduce the data into the De Anza equipment Mr. Jim Dilettoso of Phoenix undertook a one-man campaign of operation between the various scientific disciplines, i.e. Lasers, Optics, Video Cameras, Computers, and Video Graphics Systems, seeking the best marriage of equipment for what we wanted to do. When we finally got alt the pieces in one place we were able to perform the following repeatable steps: Microscopic examination of film, transparency or print to very high magnifications, up to 500 diameters. Microdensitometric scanning of film or transparencies, using various scanning programs. Scanning Electron Microscope examination oŁ film and film make-up. Laserscopie examination of film or transparencies, and preparation of laser holographic plates for computer work. Computerization of the data for storage on discs or tapes. Videographic display of stored data, examinations, and the results of various tests, also transferred to storage disc or tape together with analysis programs used. Basically, for our initial test programs we performed the following steps: ...] -- source, and complete history, here: ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Photo_Analysis_from_the_Preliminary_Investigation_Report  In Peace Salome * *** TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 02-2009 |
 i think gibniner has posted this on futureofmankind.co.uk website [1] can u provide me some links on the photographs taken by independent people where UFO's are looking similar to Billy's. [2] Are these photographs taken by FIGU people or those who dont know anything about BIlly. [3] There are some photos taken by figu members like Guido and others more recently...cant we analyse their genuinity?Are these Original negatives lost?Most recent pics are taken with digital cameras...is there a way to prove the genuinity of photos taken with digital cameras.. Smukuthi, my gmail id is mahigitam@gmail.com,if u want to add.bdw were do u stay Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 101 Registered: 07-2009 |
Here's an update. I have decided to NOT continue with the DVD project with Kal Korff, as it became rather complicated on a number of levels and is actually...unnecessary. I found that the complexities and limitations of trying to do a kind of (but not actual) interactive debate in pre-recorded format outweighed the benefits. Of course Kal Korff and I are free to continue to present our respective views on the case through DVDs, articles, etc. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1307 Registered: 02-2000 |
Michael, I think there's nothing to gain at this point. Kal would just be able to make more money. My Website | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1549 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michael.... That, also came up in me, at first. Through the already present existing materials(dvds, etc...) should also 'do it', for those who want more insight and facts, and can still make their own opinion, here from....[No use, in overdoing it....] Edward. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Edward, Yes, and the focus now has to be more and more on the teaching. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 105 Registered: 07-2009 |
Chris Lock asked me to post these comments regarding the WCUFO stuff above: Hi Michael, I agree with all he says in his first paragraph: orig posi or first copy bmp are best. The shadows are a different matter. The nearest curving shadow (Mahi's pic 3) looks to me to be apparently from the generator in front of the van. When you go deep into processes as in pic 3 and 4 it's very difficult to know what you have because you're getting so far from the original in terms of hue and tone. Looking at the original there is no real shadow as in (pic 4). I think if there is any a shadow from this craft it is at the very bottom of the picture under the craft, or conceivably in the bottom left corner. But these could be due to overhanging trees. On an overcast day like this shadows quickly disappear with height. Take a dustbin lid outside on a cloudy day and place it on the ground. As you slowly raise the lid up off the ground you'll see the shadow directly underneath quickly disappears once it's raised off the ground. This is because the shadow is from the diffuse light of the sky above giving a shadow only directly below the object, and there's ample ambient light to reach the ground beneath the moment height is introduced. Without seeing the whole terrain it's difficult to know exactly what's going on. The trees, however, are preventing ambient light from reaching the objects (van, generator and craft) in the left of the pic so they are darker on their left side and you get the ground shadows on their left. This is very likely what is causing the darker shadowed area in the bottom left corner too. I calculate this craft to be around a minimum of 3m above the ground. I'm not convinced it will be shedding any detectable shadow on the ground, though a computer might be able to pick up some minimal loss of light on the ground underneath it. The area underneath it will not be visible in this picture as the camera is tilted up slightly cutting off the foreground and the craft is situated between the camera and the van and generator. You can post this if you like, Michael. I'm really busy at the moment. Chris |
