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    Michael_horn Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 07-2009 |
Earthling, I only know that Meier has said that virtually all top level governmental/intelligence agencies know about the case and its authenticity. And they certainly could know far more than I do, since they would have the best translators available (except for the spiritual teaching!). I do notice a significant increase in visits from U.S. federal government agencies and U.S. military when certain radio shows air, or certain articles are published. I usually get a combined total from the two of about 6-10 per week. This week I had 90. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 714 Registered: 07-2004 |
Smukhuti, You posted these statements: "Still unexplained from the alleged failed Bulava missile launch: 1. The blue beam of light." Why are you describing this part as, "light"? Light curving? "2. A missile whose nozzle has loosened and turned sideways may rotate in a spiral manner (with decreasing thrust/fuel) leaving a spiral trail, but the spiral smoke trail from the nozzle would not rotate as was seen from the Norway incident." And you know this non-proper rotation because why? How many failed rocket launches have you had? "3. The smoke would not vanish inside out which the rings of the spiral did, but outside-in." The inside spiral would be more susceptible to diffusion early on, due to being older, if the spiral continued to increase in circumference as it progressed in its burn. I'm proud to say I haven't had a failed rocket launch yet, so I can't verify either hypothesis. "4. The alleged exhaust trail vanished very quickly in a matter of 4-5 seconds which a traditional exhaust trail would not do." Um, obviously this wasn't a "traditional" rocket launch. What type of fuel did you say this was? Oh yeah, I don't have that exact information either. There's that other great saying, "This ain't exactly wrocket science!" Except it doesn't really apply here, but funy just the same! a friend in america Shawn | ||
Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 167 Registered: 05-2009 |
I have noticed that, besides encouraging might-greed and collapse at vices, etc, the Anti-Logos, that cloud of illogical and false thinking and feeling that surrounds the Earth in the occult/astral/psychic plane, also known as Satan, if not head-on opposed, faced in the face, antagonized itself as anti-anti-Logos, attempts to sow discord among humans who otherwise would make good allies against it and its servants. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 102 Registered: 03-2006 |
Hi Micheal H., Do you know which alien species is responsible for the genuine crop circles(which accounts for only about 5% or less of the crop circle phenomenon)? It is certainly not the Plejaren. Who would do this? Thanks. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1313 Registered: 02-2000 |
Earthling, We Will never get the truth about Hiler's death from the Media. Just imagine if they had some Hitler DNA & it matched Jewish DNA. What firestorm that would cause. Also Israel is trying to find lost tribes using DNA. Even thought theres no such thing as a Jewish race. My Website | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hi Sonik, No, Sonik, I have no idea. | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2009 |
hi SOnik,somewhere in one of the bulletins,billy answered to a question from a reader regarding crop circles. Billy told that they are due to cosmic phenomenon,where the thoughts/intentions of an artist or a person working on a design in a computer or a sheet of paper will be imprinted/projected at some places(may be places where there is unusual em fields exists)...and this kind of theory was also proposed by sme researcher in "crop circles-the hidden truth" video found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFFM7YaZRs and it worked out for them too... Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed. | ||
Gib_niner Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 06-2006 |
great documentary on the crop circles - one thing though - seems to be the case that these two individuals have also given the thumbs down to the Chilbolton crops (face & message etc.) - ie that in respect to these also - alas Man-Made in the end. Wondering now, for arguments sake - if it is not the case that the still semi-existant gaiaguys page might need to be now amended - as there are references to the chilbolton crops on more than one of their pages - ie that is to say the backup copy that remains via futureofmankind site... (also too - they have mention of the mayan crop - thinking it to be real, whereas these two chaps are going on record saying for definite that it is fake owing to obvious tell-tale signs) in any case (regarding the chilbolton crops - or more specifically the Arecibo message itself)..remember thinking that i had my doubts about it ...because of something i once read about it - of it being in reverse order - like as if it was copied from actually an incorrect version (of the original) that had been put into a book - or something to that effect at least. I'd have to backtrack somewhat to get the exact details of that again, but it went something like that. but again - good to get info. from these two reliable researchers in orfer to then help clear up much of the confusion about the crops - always hard to imagine how some of these really big ones - like for example the huge Mayan one - could at all possibly be constructed in one night, it just seems like a mind-boggling and impossible task - yet according to these two investigators - not such a big deal after all in the end. Puts things into perspective - a very 'down to earth' and thorough examination indeed. also i can remember browsing onto that page the 'Circle Makers' some time ago and actually thinking that their whole business seemed somehow highly peculiar and strange to say the very least - also very interesting light being shed on that too. anyway thats all. good doco! | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1566 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Norm.... Very True! The defined Israelites, as we know...were indeed a - mixture - of many tribes of people. The Prophet lineage, mentioned also of this Race Mixture and Interbreeding, which they did not agree with: due to the Consequences. Which is also..related to today! I guess, also due to the very much - Junk DNA -, consisted in humans, with illnesses and anomalies, etc, which through their offspring...will be set forth, alas to say...and, which their offspring will lose much of their body's immune system abilities, etc....; and still pass this onward. Edward. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Shawn, "Why are you describing this part as, "light"? Light curving? " This would be the light that extend from the centre of the spiral to the horizon/ground clearly seen on all the pictures/videos of the phenomena. " And you know this non-proper rotation because why? How many failed rocket launches have you had?" It's not based on my experience since I have only watched in TV, but this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4 " The inside spiral would be more susceptible to diffusion early on, due to being older, if the spiral continued to increase in circumference as it progressed in its burn. I'm proud to say I haven't had a failed rocket launch yet, so I can't verify either hypothesis. " I assumed the missile going away from view so the centre of the spiral would be furtherest and hence the newest. In that case, the outside arms of the spiral would vanish first. But what you say is a possibility too. "What type of fuel did you say this was?" I do not know either. Wikipedia mentions solid propellant. Salome. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2009 |
Good info on the crop circles Michael. Hi Sonik, only 5% are real? Interestingly enough they said that the ones in Canada seem to be original, because they are so simple (maybe it just takes practise to do the complex ones?). There's only been 4 of them here in the last two years. In 2008 there were two at Duncan, B.C. and wouldn't you know they recently had severe flooding. Makes me wonder what I'm in store for by next year. But since I don't believe that cattle mutilation has anything to do with ET's, I've come to the conclusion that this is also done by black ops (maybe not M15, lol, but we do have some crazies from Bruce Power who like to strut their stuff, plus they are LLP's, which means that Bruce Power doesn't have to pay out for all the damage they do, and really, what kind of damage is done by a crop circle?). Right before our crop circle was discovered there was a black van going down all the streets and alleys to upload information to google earth. Maybe this has something to do with it? Also on wiki it said that microwaves can make crop circles. And we have huge amounts of microwave towers, some pointing in that direction. The simplest answer is probably the correct one. I think this is what you were looking for? And I quote: " In the 328th contact of July 20, 2002, Ptaah explained that ETs are not involved in the making of the crop circles. They (the P’s) first suspected this to be the case, but then detected that cosmic influences are involved instead (influencing the ideas of those who are creating the pictures on computers or by hand-drawing). The crop circles are man-made (terrestrial). There have been UFOs flying above sites where crop circles were made; but they were not involved in the „construction“. Some of those UFOs were coming from our terrestrial future." This myth, totally busted!!! | ||
Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 174 Registered: 05-2009 |
Justsayno, Stewart Swerdlow has always called these 'crap circles', claiming that they are made using technology developed at Brookhaven National Laboratories. Others, such as Preston Nichols, have confirmed this, but since their credentials are controversial, one is open to doubt them. Certainly some of them were not possibly crafted by commonly-available means, but perhaps those could have become made using some electromagnetic antenna or satellite-directed reflexion from a ground signal, or a scalar weapon. This would imply that whoever upon Earth makes those few very unique crop-circles is aware of the principles of electrogravity. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 717 Registered: 07-2004 |
Smukhuti, Logically light can be bent due to strong gravitational forces as seen in views of the cosmos by our scientists. I was more viewing this blue spiral as being lit by local light and not a light source of its own. So it is more of a blue 'cloud'. A rocket launch is the highest probability. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Jonzie Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 04-2009 |
If the missile turned O-- toward the viewer, the center would vanish -o-. The missile turned and was coming straight toward the camera, thus the middle vanished first and the margin view of the ring vanished behind the oncoming missile. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 350 Registered: 06-2008 |
Copenhagen talking heads carbon trading racket festival. Not the sort of review likely to appear on the pages of your local newspaper. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16518 Cheers. | ||
Sanjin Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 06-2009 |
Previously undiscovered ancient city found on Caribbean sea floor http://www.heralddeparis.com/previously-undiscovered-ancient-city-found-on-caribbean-sea-floor/65855 36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 06-2009 |
Great article Ramirez. My takeaway quote: Mohamed Nasheed, the President of the drowning Maldives, said simply: "The last generation of humans went to the moon. This generation of humans needs to decide if it wants to stay alive on planet Earth." Salome | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2009 |
Thanks Matthew, I don't doubt that they were guinea pigs, but I also question some of their recall. Like they said, mind control was being used on them. What makes us so sure what they are saying now, doesn't have something to do with mind control? And would the people controlling their minds actually tell them the truth? The Brookhaven National Lab is a pretty interesting site, did you know they want to expand? Even though you may have a patent on some new technology, you are not allowed to talk about it until the field testing is done. So much secrecy, what a shock, lol. Unfortunately I spent (wasted) a lot of time looking into the crop circles (and also wasted a question to Billy). Maybe I answered my own question in that the field where the crop circles were found had huge amounts of natural gas right underneath. Not that this is common knowledge - but I do have my spies (regular people) out, lol. Maybe this technology is able to detect large amounts of gas or oil? | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 353 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Smukhuti, If you enjoyed that expose here is another detailed appraisal of what the Copenhagen circus is really about. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16473 Where is there any mention of how to actually slow down or stop emissions from cars, power stations, factories ? What about working technology which can be installed in vehicles for instance: Hydrogen power units using water as a fuel = zero emissions and ..... no need for petrol. Or carburetors able to deliver about 30% more power, 20% more mileage for 80% less emissions .... they exist ..... maybe explaining why over the years sealed electonic fuel injection modules have gradually replaced carburetors. The fuel injector units are virtually impossible for backyard inventors to modify, experiment with or fit a carburetor in place of. Or free standing torsion field devices the size of a shoebox having no moving parts producing 10KW of totally emission free electric power. Take your house off the grid for ever. No mention of those sort of things is there ? All they talk about is markets, carbon trading, carbon offset schemes. Money .... it's all about money and taxes, not practical for your home or car solutions that can actually reduce or eliminate emissions. Cheers. | ||
Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 175 Registered: 05-2009 |
Justsayno, Preston Nichols first had a blockaded memory of his work at Montauk, but Stewart Swerdlow never forgot his memories, and simply did not speak about them with many before the Montauk Project came public. Just by reading Peter Moon's books, one shall find out that something involving major secrecy, apparently alien technology, and the occult, did happen at Montauk. Ptaah says that the preceding Philadelphia Experiment never happened, but that might after all be a concealment. The physics involved conforms with that described by Richard Crandall in 'They All Told the Truth'. Although mind-control was indeed done at Montauk, the bulk of what was done to the workers was programming, distinct from mind-control in that it is literally a programming of the human brain and personality instead of a mere influence upon the human senses. One must carefully study for oneself if one will to find out just how much of what these humans talked about did take place. Salome, - Matthew | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2009 |
Something to keep in mind. Mariann and I were chatting about the Contact Notes and she said something to the effect that they were the "the true history of our time". In that case we might want to ponder whether there really is the intention to deliberately hem, haw and obfuscate by Meier and the Pljaren...as is done by so many others in our world. While there have been things that the Plejaren and Meier have had to correct or amend, and even only partial information given, I think that if they say that it is their opinion that something is a hoax, didn't happen, etc., that they're not deliberately misrepresenting or lying. there are parties who have a vested interest in disinformation and who have indeed succeeded in leading many people quite astray and into wasting their precious time dwelling in all sorts of unfounded conspiratorial areas. Maybe the greatest conspiracy is simple the disinformation process and its disseminators. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 334 Registered: 05-2008 |
Matthew .. fwiw . I live a few miles from Montauk .. a friend of mine grew up there and had free access to the air force base and moved freely there. He says there was nothing remotely close to what the Peter Moons books wrote about. Peter Moon says that my friend was one of the kids they experimented on. I can tell you with 100% certainty, that that accusation is incorrect and absurd. | ||
Matthew_justin_deagle Member Post Number: 176 Registered: 05-2009 |
Michael, I do not view any book as the last word on history or current events. If one really aims to know about these things, one must do research in many different sources, or even travel to the locations oneself. I have found that what is said about history and current or recent events in the mainstream is either blatant lies, or a conscious mixture of lies and the truth, either out of partisanship/bias/camp-captivity or on-purpose manipulation. I know that you are aware of at least the influence of bias on historical accounts, but you seem to think that Billy being neutral in his point of stance must therefore always be telling his opinions or information publically. This would be too dangerous, though, for him to do in all cases. It is evident to me that a man with so many assassination-attempts against him is not free to talk without occasionally formulating protective concealments of himself and his group. Which of his statements about history correspond with the truth, and which are merely protective measures for the sake of defence against enemies or for the sake of those unable to cope with reality, is a question for the individual reason and understanding. Salome, - Matthew --- Earthling, You have said this before. However, I have heard, and seen, the exact opposite of what you claim, and your friend's story is not consistent with the facts, unless indeed he is either lying, or has occluded memories of his own. I do not say this as a personal attack on your friend, but as a warning that one must not always trust the eye-witness accounts of one's friends at face value. If one person's account contradicts hundreds of others' accounts, even certain non-dependent facts, one must discount that account. I think that you, being acquainted with the Montauk Project, probably have access to further explanations of the facts. Salome, - Matthew |
