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Darren
Member
Post Number: 126
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 03:42 pm: | 
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Icke's a good scaremonger too! |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 747
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 08:36 pm: |
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I thought his name was Icky? Michael must of been joking then....
David's story of the fabulous lizard people who run the English Monarchy, shape-shifting and all, closes the David Icky chapter for me, but what do I know. I actually like lizards.
His methodology is the one of the best paths to murk up the waters of information that some would like to be kept secret. Since the real information has already been exposed to the world the best way to belittle it is have someone such as David include it in his 'novels' of belief. There it becomes nestled next to the lizard-Queen and becomes thus tainted. This man is a tool for the secret holders, and it's not the lizard people I'm talking about here.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 107
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 08:49 pm: |
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Matthew,
The reptilian disinformation thing is one thing.
I didn't say or know if the false information he gives is done deliberately or accidently.
My opinion is that if they're not behind Billy (eg shouting his name/mission out like MH and others do) then they're a hinderence to the mission.
Also as Ptaah pointed out to the material they sell. My opinion is that its true and that Icke's only in it for the money, for if he were not, he would be mentioning/pushing Billys material. He don't because it'll drive his sales right down. |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 239
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:14 pm: |
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I would say that, although the programmed reaction is timour/phobia/angst (as opposed to plain fear), David Icke himself makes effort not to frighten with his information, but instead to warn. If anything, he is rather optimistic from all what I have heard by him.
One must properly ponder what on Earth 'scaremonger' is supposed to mean in this context, anyway. Is he wrong for taking the blindfold off the endangered unwitting suicidals before they plummet over the cliff's-edge?
Determinately, that would breed fear, but not necessarily angst. Fear of the dangerous is just, well, logical. Angst/phobia, or being timid in other words, feeds upon a delusion, on the other hand. I and any other sane human, including the late Steve Irwin, would be afraid of a Black Mamba, but someone with a phobia of snakes, someone timid of them, would irrationally fear them to the point of complete inhibition. There is a big difference between an angst-monger and a fear-upruffling admonisher.
This apprehension that fear is bad in general is contradictory to the laws of nature and common-sense, and must become cleared-up.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 240
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2010 - 10:18 pm: |
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Darren,
The point is that if David Icke scares you unto angst, and does not just bring you rational fear of real danger, you must look at your own psyche and therefor your own thinking and feeling to find the cure for that fright.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 242
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 01:01 pm: |
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Matt,
You sound like George W. Bush. If they ain't with us, they're against us.
David Icke can choose himself whether he wants to talk about Billy or not, but when he does not, it may be because he understands how badly the concealments Billy protectively needs to say affect the false-thinking views of the stupid. He is not right in doing that, though, because those not intelligent and wise enough to see the truth should not be persuaded into accepting it as belief.
For that matter, Stewart Swerdlow actually does mention Billy Meier and since the 1990s he has been arguing with others on Billy's mission's behalf, saying that Billy is for real while receiving the slings and arrows of defamation from others for saying so.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 243
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 01:09 pm: |
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Kingman,
It is unintelligible to me why the elite being ruled by half-sauroids is so unbelievable. You know that this planet has been visited by nearly every imaginable kind of alien, and that they bred with the Earthlings. You know that the world WAS secretly ruled by a tiny elite of scientists living in Gizeh, Egypt. Givin that these scientists were able to create Cherubim and Seraphim, i.e. giant human-beast-combinations, I do not see why sauroid- or reptilian-looking humans are out of the question.
Not to mention that the rulers of the 'Jews' were often reported in the Middle-Ages to shapeshift into horned, tailed, scaly-looking creatures during human-sacrifice and other rituals. This was a big 'rumour' for nearly a thousand years.
Our own government proposed in 1956 having cyborg, reptoid androids created, and pig-human-hybrids are already in the works.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 749
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 03:02 pm: |
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More good thought from Matt. David Icky serves his bank account.
Matthew, are you a psychologist also?
a friend in america
Shawn
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Darren
Member
Post Number: 128
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 07:13 pm: |
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Matthew,
Icke doesn't scare me with his scaremongering. Not now anyway, he used to once, but then I found Billy and know better now.
IMO Icke deliberately appears to scaremonger people. He thrives on it. Its what sells his merchandise. |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 244
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 09:16 pm: |
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Kingman,
I do not see the relevance of me being or not being a psychologist, but no, I am not a psychologist. However, Billy has written the -best- texts in the world on psychological issues and problems, starting with the book 'die Psyche'.
Salome,
- Matthew
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Darren,
I see nothing of this 'scaremongering' you see in David Icke. I have read his books, and all that I can disagree with is his occasionally over-the-top New-Agey terminology and over-optimism. Otherwise, his books are spot-on about what is going on in the world. There is little point continuing this discussion. Just read what I have already said, and ponder and observe.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Trueprophet
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:47 pm: |
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Earthquake in H. and overpopulation on the Island. This is Primetime to witness the truth that was forecast as a warning to all earth people. BEAM's ancient prophecies are materializing. I have not met anyone yet who will grasp onto the teachings. Friends we are so few snowflakes in that rolling snowball, yet together we try to wet the glowing embers that could cause the world fire. Sincerely yours,Darcy Carlile. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 129
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:06 am: |
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Matthew,
I said "IMO Icke deliberately APPEARS to scaremonger people." There is a difference.
But not so much when his talking about reptilians, but when talking about NWO and general government conspiracies.
Actually I always thought that Icke might be using reptilians as an analogy for Zionists. There was a whole documentary (not made by icke) made about that, asking the question if he was using it as an analogy. In that video whenever the makers approach Icke to ask him the question, he always denied he was. Anyway they gave/pointed to numerous examples in the doco but in the end I wasn't fully convinced that he was. So I don't know about that. |
Darren
Member
Post Number: 130
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:38 am: |
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forgot to mention this before Matthew. You wrote "I have read his books, and all that I can disagree with is...."
I've never read any of Ickes books, just videos, so thats where I only see his scaremongering and not in his books as you refer to. I see the scaremongering in his videos. Perhaps he does something in them that he don't do in his books which we disagree on? |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1623
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:04 am: |
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Hi Michael.....
Excellent update!
Torino Scale, being mentioned. Have heard of that. Would explain the whole
scenario.
Such asteroids are also known as - PHA-Potentially Hazardous Asteroids -;
which are bound to hit Earth; and are the most monitored. The name says it
all.
Edward. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 109
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:11 am: |
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Matthew,
I was referring to fact that if there were less disinformation outlets (like Icke) out there, the better for the mission it would be. Do you agree?
Thats what I meant by that. |
Badr
Moderator
Post Number: 515
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:54 am: |
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Dear Members,
Just a quick reminder this forum is the FIGU forum and dedicated to discussing Billy and FIGU, not David Icke.
FIGU has clearly stated their opinion about David Icke and we should leave it at that, as there is no relation to him and FIGU, then there is no point discussing it further on the forum.
Peace,
Badr |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 750
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:33 pm: |
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I realize the moderators loads can interfere with daily needs in their lives, so I understand how the D.I. stuff continued on as long as it did. So next time I'm going to unofficially deputize Mark Campbell as a temporary stand-up comedian moderator to help the case load during the overload, overdone, over-the-top, repeating unnecessary posts. Like this one.
Thanks for that important, clear reminder. With a little more focus, some of my reply's could of stated something along these lines and ended this D.I. stuff early on.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Kingman
Member
Post Number: 751
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:58 pm: |
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Hi Matthew,
You posted this info:
"Not to mention that the rulers of the 'Jews' were often reported in the Middle-Ages to shapeshift into horned, tailed, scaly-looking creatures during human-sacrifice and other rituals. This was a big 'rumour' for nearly a thousand years. "
...often reported? Was it in the National Enquirer? Now maybe this stuff has something to it, but 'often reported' is not really a good scale to grade something extraordinary. I am open to anything, as even Billy's information in some areas has its 'Wow!' factors. The difference is his other material, like himself, can't be shot down.
Don't we have enough with Billy's material? Ask yourself that question honestly. IMO, there's almost to much for one lifetime. And for a consciously awake human, it's the only true treasure that leads to all other treasures.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 245
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 01:25 pm: |
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Darren,
If you post your e-mail I will continue this discussion in e-mail. It is safe to say that whether it is a metaphor or literal fact, the 'reptilians' are Zionists, whether or not they physically shapeshift.
Thus concludes this moderator-unapproved fellow-speech (conversation).
Salome,
- Matthew |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 337
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 12:32 am: |
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Shawn ;
I mentioned your post because you really said it , as Michael did . That's a flat nail , well hit .
This is just a serious atmosphere sometimes . You're kind to say , so , I pledge to respect my office and to not abuse the muse.
Our young friend has a rock hard head , yet he's still a friend . Maybe soon he will grace us with some friendly respect , but till then ; we patiently respect his young age .
Mark |
Mgilbo1
Member
Post Number: 109
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 12:07 am: |
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Very interesting article if true.
"Archaeologists are stumped after finding a 100-year-old Swiss watch in an ancient tomb that was sealed more than 400 years ago.
They believed they were the first to visit the Ming dynasty grave in Shangsi, southern China, since its occupant's funeral."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1096959/Mystery-century-old-Swiss-watch-discovered-ancient-tomb-sealed-400-years.html
Mark Gilbo
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Sanjin
Member
Post Number: 104
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 10:23 pm: |
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New image of the Pleiades and other astronomical phenomena captured from a garden shed:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1244686/Amateur-star-gazer-captures-astonishing-images-Milky-Way-hole-roof-garden-shed.html
36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
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