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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 139
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thomas,

that's why I distinctly said, "This is directed primarily at the native English speakers, primarily in the U.S. but anywhere else that teaches/uses English as its primary language...And I'm not asking for perfection here, I am incapable of it myself...It actually will also help in raising the credibility of the forum to those currently outside of it, as well as improve the quality of our daily writing and communicating, etc."

So dare I ask that you double check what I wrote and intended?
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 340
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Michael , and it's not a hard thing to do , especially if the corrections are easily communicated in a friendly way .Maybe we can have a section of common fluke-ups by us tea bag flingers.

I got a kick out of someone's slang expression here on the forum : "soda speak" which he or she (but really it was a he who done it) may have misunderstood all of his life ; "so to speak" being the correct slang ,an oxymormon if "I ever did here won".

Similarly , commonly used words may have never been learned in the regular couse of an eduvacation ,so .... oh ,you know what I mean .

Mark
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Thomas
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Post Number: 793
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oops!=A0 My bad :-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that diligence with one's posts is a good idea. Relying on spell-check is ultimately detrimental to the individual, however -- one should endeavor to spell correctly and understand the grammar of the English language. Spell-check breeds laziness, from my observation of others.

More common examples I have seen recently:

- due/do
- its/it's
- use of 'and' where one should use 'to', ex. 'try and plead' vs. 'try to plead', 'try and do something' vs. 'try to do something'
- excessive use of spaces between periods (ex. the end . ) and between commas (ex. the hare , and the dog , crossed the road).
- intentional misspellings of words for the sake of 'humour' or of 'lightening the mood', it might seem momentarily amusing, but I'm sure such individuals are capable of a more refined humour, and it doesn't help non-native English speakers for others to be doing this
- failure to capitalize proper nouns and the first letters of sentences
- excessive use of ellipses (ex. whee ................ jabber jabber jabber ........ blab blab,,,, ..)
- too/to/two

Also, if any single one of the forum members could tell me what this sentence means:

"Example. Human Being in The legal world means monster as to say Monsters cannot own now have anything for extended periods. something to think."

I would very much appreciate it. I have been puzzling over this since it was posted and as far as I can tell it means absolutely nothing.

Peace;

- Gaia
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Scott
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Post Number: 1911
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gaia,

Do you recall who posted or where the sentence is which your referring to?

Thanks
Scott
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All generalizations are false, including this one.
Mark Twain ~


~intent~ (Both Good or Bad has always been in the eye of the beholder!

Definition:
in·tent[ in tént ]

NOUN
1.
plan or purpose: something planned, or the purpose that accompanies a plan.

2.
criminal law state of mind: somebody's state of mind when deliberately committing or planning to commit an illegal act.

3.
connotation: the meaning or significance of something, especially when not explicitly expressed

ADJECTIVE ~
1.
with fixed attention: having full attention or effort concentrated or focused on one thing
"Intent on her work, she lost track of the time."

2.
determined: showing great determination to do something
"They are intent on leaving early."

[ 13th century. < Old French entent < Latin intendere (see intend) ]
in·tent·ly ADVERB
in·tent·ness NOUN
to all intents and purposes in effect, although not actually

Thesaurus ~

ADJECTIVE ~

Synonyms: concentrated, absorbed, focused, directed, fixed, rapt, engaged
Synonyms: intending to, bent on, determined, resolved, set on, committed

All you need is ignorance and confidence and the success is sure.
Mark Twain ~

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest, And any emotion, if it is sincere, is involuntary.

A round man cannot be expected to fit in a square hole right away. He must have time to modify his shape.
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott;

I'm assuming you mean the sentence I posted which I cannot figure out the meaning of -- it was posted recently in 'Translations' by Syn. The reason I've posted it is not because I want to pick on the member who posted, but because I honestly cannot make any sense of the sentence, so I am curious if anyone else can.

Thank you, Scott.

Peace;

- Gaia
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Scott
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Post Number: 1912
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Gaia,

Your right, I cannot make any sense of it either. Perhaps the person who posted it could clarify what they were trying to say.

Thanks
Scott
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Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Scott;

Don't mean to be picking on you now, but: your = possessive (this is your house), whereas you're = conjunction of 'you are' (for example; you're right), although it would be correct to say 'you know your rights'.

You can post this to the forum if you would like, but you can disregard it as well, since it's directed mostly just to you.

Peace;

- Gaia

Hi Gaia,

Of course you're right, just missed the apostrophe.

Thanks
Scott


(Message edited by scott on January 23, 2010)
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 811
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TJ7:4-6

"Why do you see the splinter in your brother's eye and are not aware of the beam in your own eye?
Or, how dare you say to your brother: 'Wait, I will take the splinter out of your eye!' And behold, there is a beam in your own eye. You hypocrite, first take the beam out of your own eye, then see how you can take the splinter out of your brother's eye."
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 345
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was going to take a breath , but instead removed my trachea in case I had a polyp .

Let's see , we went from 'spiritual teaching' to 'Shakespearean english' to 'spelling bee' and
" waiter , there's humour in my soup ."

Peace , if you can breathe

Mark
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Cpl
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Post Number: 516
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Gaia and Scott,

Maybe just a little slip, but of course, "you're" is not a conjunction but ("but" is a conjunction) a contraction of "you are".

Enjoy your weekend!
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Kingman
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Post Number: 754
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark...."waiter , there's humour in my soup ."

Waiter...."I know, we're out of English fear...."

Mark...."how droll...."

Waiter....."no, that's French. this is English humour...."

Mark...." that's wanky"

Waiter...."American humour........how dreadful!"
a friend in america
Shawn
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

~ If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.

John Kenneth Galbraith)
US (Canadian-born) administrator & economist (1908 - 2006)

As sure as, there are old Gods still on this earth in some form or other, then that one my dears, you can take to the bank!
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Davidmg
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gaiaguysnet

I think I can help you here.

Although I did not write this unintentional cryptic writing. It may have been from Balantine's Self Pronouncing Law Dictionary, 1948 reference somewhere on the internet in bits and pieces and copied in a hurry, not giving any consideration for the reader as well as the persons intent on fixing errors.

“Human Being” is defined as "See Monster." On page 540

of this same Law Dictionary,

“Monster” is defined as "a human being by birth, but in some part resembling
a lower animal."


"Example. Human Being in The legal world means monster as to say Monsters cannot own now have anything for extended periods. something to think."


correcting the word “now” to “or” may solve the improper sentence structure. It definitely made you think about it.

Viel Glück mein freund

David M. G.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 815
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear David,

Very nice, thank you! I own many, many dictionaries, so - if I make sufficient effort - almost any word can mean almost anything! :-)

Actually, I recall, from my old illustrated medical dictionary, that "monster" is a (very) non-PC medical term for any number of different types of grossly defective babies or fetuses.

du auch!
Dyson
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Edward
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Post Number: 1625
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Michael....

Would agree with you.

I do also prefer to write: 'they are', than...'they're'; and, 'I am',
than..'I'm', etc. [English not being my native tongue, as you may know.]

This is WHAT Ptaah, is to some point...referring to when he speaks of 'sloppy'
English(, or in most cases): in America-English, among others.

We should just utilize as much as possible, WHOLE Words, and not..Half Words,
or what ever.

There are indeed, NEW (foreign)boardess whom make the mistakes you mentioned.

Even I, at times do like-wise. Then, I just 'overlooked' a word during spell
checking; and notice it later on. [Example: meaning 'there'...but 'their' is
mentioned erroneously; so, it was not a 'conscious' mistake.]

Sometimes, writing can be just as the 'Last Sound Mix': if you listen 'too
long' during the Mix(ing), you become what they call: Sound Blind/Deaf, and as
they call this when writing: Writing Blind(ness)...; but, I think you get the
point, being a fellow musician.


Edward.
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Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A dictionary such as Black's Law Dictionary, or Bouvier's Law Dictionary, is not remotely the same thing as, say, The Complete Oxford English Dictionary.

Since English came from England, and it has been ordered that translations from the German should be into English English, I think the Complete Oxford English Dictionary (which costs more than most people are willing to pay, I know) should be in the library of any serious English-language translator.

Peace;

- Gaia
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Example. Human Being in The legal world means monster as to say Monsters cannot own now have anything for extended periods. something to think."

"Human Being, in the legal world, means 'monster', as if to say monsters cannot own (NOR have) anything for extended periods. Something to think about."

I didn't write it either, but sometimes it helps to break up the sentence, not just define the words.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Poth
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,I HAVE BEEN READING EVERYTHING i can find,mainly about the spiritual teachings,which I find fascinating and of great value!I at first was captivated by the ufo pics and the beings but have not been looking into or reading about the evidence at all,until today I decided to just google billy's name and I see many results with the word Hoax after his name ,so i clicked on one,now Please understand that I desperately want this all to be true,everthing seems to be familiar to me and make sense and fit into my way of thinking and ideas that I have always thought possible,like I don't buy into organized religion and was of the opinion that we keep coming back{to life} until we get it right and in all the vastness of space there certainly must be much intelligent life,just too far for us to reach with our current knowledge.My problem today is a picture of the wedding cake ship,much of what The hoax site claimed I saw as manipulated and I dismissed it,however...the one thing that gave me pause was the original photo has what they say is "carpet tacks" in between the spheres near the top,okay..the thing that is bugging me is there is one tack missing and is clearly laying{on the ship} right under the spot where it should be?I really need an explanation for this! you see if I find just one thing that my mind tells me is "Faked"...it ruins everything and as a result I would feel foolish and taken in and simply an idiot for ever thinking I had finally found the truth I have been searching for my entire life! This is so important to me I have been starting to implement the teachings into my life and was planning on diving in and making these teachings my new and final way of life and would have to spread very carefully what I have discovered to others,since I BELIEVE IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION i have ever found and think the world should be made aware of the truth! So Now I have to take a close look at everything,first the palaerjin contact,because that has to be true in order for any of this to mean anything,if there is any fakes or lies about that part,Then I am sunk! I so badly want and truly need this to be true and factual,I have been so happy and excited to read more and more each day and finding out more and more,It is becoming a mission to me,but I cannot have any doubts,everything...EVERYTHING must make complete and total sense to me in order for me to continue. Can anyone help me figure this out,this cannot turn into the way religion teaches,like you just have have faith and not question anything,the teachings tell us so,that it must make sense to you ,in order to know what is true. Thank you all....Poth PS:I looked at the original photo,not a copy fom another site.
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Poth
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all.Thank you all for your answers and suggestions,all of which were very helpful and polite.Thanx...Poth
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Poth,

Relax. Don't be desperate about any of it.

As for the claims about "carpet tacks", etc. It will take you a while to really go through all of the evidence and information, including about the WCUFO. The scale for a so-called carpet tack appears to be way off for the size of the WCUFO. More importantly, why would you or anyone assume that something's fallen off, laying on its side, etc.? How do you KNOW what you're looking at or how it's "supposed to be"?

Meier took 63 photos of the WCUFO and common sense tells us that if this actually was a hoax, he certainly wouldn't go to all that trouble and leave a "carpet tack" lying in plain sight!

You may also want to read this by Dyson:

http://www.theyfly.com/Dyson%20Debunks%20WCUFO%20Skeptic.htm

And as Dyson and most other people who've been at this for a while will certainly tell you, you have to take full responsibility for thinking your way through all of the information, evidence, analysis, challenges, etc.
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Poth
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kingman,Maybe you should consider If they have been asked many times then perhaps the reason people try to ask the same question in a different way is because the answers given were not sufficient or answered incorrectly or not to the point at all,just because they are answered does not mean its the right answer or even a good answer {is everyone an expert?},your post to me was rude,you basically were telling me to not ask any more questions.Up until now everyone else on this forum has been extremely polite ,that is until Your post.Is impatience what we want to teach? Who are you sir,to tell anyone they can not ask a question or questions?!Or to tell me I can ask only one question?I will continue to search my questions and If the answers make no sense or are incomplete,I will ask as many as it takes for me to understand,without interference from you. I wish you well...Peace...Poth

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