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Kingman
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Post Number: 752
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 06:03 pm: | 
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When a wrong becomes righted, to not examine it closely and chance a repeat is lazy and illogical. In this case of MD, a long ordeal was endured by many here and things were learned. Could of it been handled differently? Well obviously. What is particularly painful was watching a pattern repeating over and over with no relief in sight.
Out of all the postings from our friend Matthew, the majority needed to be surrounded and marked as possibly poisonous and unsafe for general consumption.
Gaia,
I would suggest that Matthew's fathers image, which is very public, had a very strong effect on Matthews world view. This is not to bash either one of them, but IMO, it had a strong negative effect. If all Matthew claimed to be in his scholarliness was true, he failed miserably in understanding his skills. We're supposed to think he's accredited as a teacher as he once told me? The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. In the end his mind is just as unbalanced as his fathers, IMO, of course.
His sum total of all he did here at this FIGU forum was to subliminally disperse chaos. Except it wasn't really subliminal. He succeeded well in his discord and misguided aim. You say I'm being unfair? Hardly.
I went through dozens of posts I had with Matthew and I can say most of the time(99%) there was no effort on his part to alter his directive one iota. Commendable in his steadfastness, disastrous in its results. Was this pure blindness on his part? Is he that fixated on being fixated? This went on for years. Did I already say that?
I did the best I could in showing Matthew where I thought he could change for the better, but now I can actually let this chapter rest and move forward. No matter how anyone may think about this whole ordeal, it all boils down to the choices we make and the effects we reap. Some choose poorly.
Well, the dust is settling, the conclusion clear, and the light is now shining on someone who didn't just force his way back here like Matthew did previously. Dyson, welcome back my friend!
a friend in america
Shawn
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 140
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 06:51 pm: |
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Gaiawingz,
And I think that it would be more "appropriate" and helpful if, instead of trying to extend control over people here, you attend to assisting Matthew in learning how HE discredited himself, how HIS own actions and character deficiencies precipitated his forced departure, and how HE can take full responsibility for the mess HE'S made by repeatedly abusing the trust and patience of everyone here who were subjected to HIS degeneracies.
Then maybe you can come back and lecture us again...if you're really still so inclined. |
Gaiawingz
Member
Post Number: 87
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 07:28 pm: |
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Michael;
This is my final post regarding this matter.
I told Matthew many times not to waste his energy on 'refuted-by-Billy' matters here on the forum; and I am somewhat glad, overall, that he has been banned from the English-forum because now he can focus his energies where they are more fruitful.
I do not think it is correct (or fair) for individuals who hold a grudge against him to continue to be allowed to post their negative, largely-character based (as I said) opinions concerning him, in light of the fact that he is not allowed to post or defend himself anymore.
There are false things being insinuated and said about him which reflect very poorly upon the people who choose to post them, and since no-one else seems inclined to acknowledge that Matthew is not some evil, lying, disinformation specialist -- I choose to do so, as it is unfair for him to be falsely portrayed as such.
Finally, now that he has been banned, unless some question arises about something he has previously posted, I don't think there is any reason for the forum-members to continue bringing him up and proclaiming false things about him. Honestly, each of the members who has wanted to get their 'final say' posting through to the board, crowing triumphantly about the matter, strikes me as foolish and petty.
Peace;
- Gaia
gaiawingz.wordpress.com
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Gaiawingz
Member
Post Number: 88
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 07:36 pm: |
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Kingman;
You're looking in the wrong direction. Matthew set his father on the path which he now pursues. Bill's distortions of the truth are only made possible because Matthew foolishly shared information with him and told him about things (about eight years ago) which he had no reason to tell him about. The result is that Bill now distorts matters, mixes falsehood with truth, and refuses to acknowledge 'Billy' Eduard Meier's legitimacy, ergo he refuses to learn from him.
On the other hand, Matthew owns 43 of Billy's books and is steadfastly and thoroughly reading through them. He preforms the Salome meditation at the appointed times, and he meditates for a minimum of 20 minutes every single day. Matthew is also qualified, through Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia (Canada), to teach English as a second language.
Your opinion, while you are welcome to it, does not reflect the reality of the situation, which is why I have responded to you, although I am ready to be done with talking about Matthew and defending him from the attacks of those who dislike him here. To those who dislike him: he's been banned, he won't be bothering you again, and you can stop wasting your time and energy posting things about him which you know he will not and cannot respond to.
Peace;
- Gaia
gaiawingz.wordpress.com
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 341
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:39 pm: |
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Expertly said by Michael .
Gaiawingz, I like to think of Matthew as an intelligent young man ,like the young classical composers were great , but when they started , they used everything in one piece ; all guns blazing , eager to brag their skills. As they aged, they learned to use their tools wisely .
He has the will to learn from his mistakes ; one , that a forum is not a monologue , but a circle of folk who... discuss . His lectures about his version of the English language were only self indulgent , like the way that I'm going to tell you about my love of Ford Mustangs. It's out of place , innapropriate , but I want to do it, and by golly , I think the moderators won't read this so ....
The superior design of the 60's Mustangs were a masterpiece of both engineering and beauty. The true American icon is a rare coin of a car.
Enough about cars , and enough about Matthew. never speak ill of the departed .
Matthew , come back someday and help with the translations . I'm certain that you are a fine human being .
Long may you run .
Mark |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 342
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:50 pm: |
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Finely expressed , Shawn .
In any case , we all can be a bit responsible by not kicking him in the typeface in his absinth .
Gaiawingz should be respected in her will to defend him . Anger being a cruel thing to inspire in someone that we really don't know , who can't speak a piece in person to any of us .
This is my understanding of respect between persons in all neutrality .
Mark |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:21 pm: |
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Gaiawingz,
Perhaps you should have taken your own advice and let matters be, attending to whatever can transpire privately between you to perceive and rectify that which he has brought upon himself.
Fairness is a pretty subjective thing, as your post demonstrates, absent as it again is in acknowledging the unpleasant effects that OTHERS HERE obviously, almost unanimously, experienced.
And there is a legitimate, unrepressed sense of relief at not having to suffer, or babysit, the inappropriate behavior tolerated for far too long, despite such release not meeting your standards of approval and appropriateness as to expression, form, duration, etc.
Please stop trying to control others and you may not feel so out of control.
As to what he is or isn't, it can be - fairly - said that everyone here has been at some time, and may well yet again be, in some ways perceived, even accurately, by others to be inappropriate, offensive and not welcome in any possible number of environments and/or situations.
Painting him out to be some poor, misunderstood victim, etc., actually only diminishes, demeans and effectively emasculates him. Let him take his lumps, dare I say as a man, for his behavior. Hopefully he will learn what he needs to from the experience.
FYI, I have been banned from any number of forums, on and off for years, for my advocacy of the Meier case. Not only am I not crying about what those forums actually had a right to do, whether I liked it or not, I'm not going to encourage or allow anyone, certainly not my girlfriend, to try and plead my case.
Go take care of your business and leave us to take care of ours...as WE see fit. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 753
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 09:33 pm: |
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When we use ugly terms like 'dislike' in describing someone else's feelings towards another person, it wrongly colorizes the situation. In the most recent event, at least for myself, there was no 'disliking' anyone. But there was a preference. Like I have stated many times before, we always have choices. I choose what I prefer, not what I don't prefer. Not to be confused with 'dislike'.
this fool stopped 'dissing' when I quit my 'gang'(Yo eastside, whatssup!). But I can still hustle wit da street creds'
a friend in america
Shawn
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Gaiawingz
Member
Post Number: 89
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 11:02 pm: |
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Scott or Badr: my first post contained a typo, which I have corrected. If you notice this, please forget the first and post this second (subject to your discretion). Thank you.
Michael;
Do not attribute things to me which I have not said or done. I do not seek to control anyone, but I will defend someone I know very well from unjust vilification. It is, however, cowardly to attack someone based on their character, especially when they cannot respond or defend themselves.
Objective complaints about his behaviour (such as this forum not being the place for talk about David Icke, etc. as evidenced by past occurrences) would not be argued by me. Matthew chose to conduct himself as he did and he will now contend with the consequences.
Saying that he does not or cannot understand, read or speak German, however, or that he is insane and should take his (nonexistent) medication, etc. are not examples of objective complaints. Insinuating that he is a disinformation agent, that his words are laced with 'poison', assuming the attitude (and insinuating) that he has never contributed anything of value, that he has never had a valid point, etc. -- these are examples of character-attacks. This is what I do not agree should be taking place on the forum, most especially now that he has been banned.
I'm done talking to you now, Michael. If there's anything else you would like to say to me, you know my email address and you should send your correspondence there.
Peace;
- Gaia
P.S You also know my name (Gaia), so let's not be pretending that I am using some false alias when you choose to address me by my username instead of my given name (which you know, and have used to address me in the past).
gaiawingz.wordpress.com
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J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 1151
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 01:09 am: |
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Yo Bros', words heard
clear head, 'nuff said
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Earthling
Member
Post Number: 359
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 05:08 am: |
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Dyson; you wrote:
"Benjamin – who admits he has no German – can crank out reasonably accurate “gist” translations like sausages simply by using software and dictionaries."
and ....
"a good translation as opposed to a machine “gist translation” represents the difference between a meal which is good for you (and sometimes even tasty!) and a meal which might even make you sick."
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All I can say is when one is starved and hungry, sausages seem mighty tasty and life-sustaining. I have yet to become sick from Benjamin's tasty gist sausages. Rather, I look forward to his generous morsels ... as do I look forward to your gourmet meals. As one cannot afford to go gourmet each night, a very decent local restaurant will do the trick and imo Benji's work is done with correct intent, modesty, diligence and passion/personal interest.
OK, enough on that. Welcome back and I look forward to your efforts. |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 360
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 07:22 am: |
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Gaia,
I would like to say in defense of Michael D., that I did notice a slight change for the better (iow growth), in the tone of his messages; from his latest incarnation on this forum, as opposed to the one prior to that, when he took a forced or by choice, leave of absence.
That's all any of us can do; to proceed from where we are, and to move forward/evolve/learn/grow. I give him credit for that, even if I think he goes on over the top about certain things.
It's one step at a time for all of us or as Billy says, 'constant drops fill the Goblet'... or something like that. I can't recall the exact quote. |
Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 72
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 05:39 am: |
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[1] Contact Report 204, Sunday, December 22, 1985
Obesity as a purely genetically conditioned & can be influenced by our thoughts[2nd part still not found by mainstream science but by a few others like bruce lipton]
CORROBORATION:
Fat Gene Found [2006]
http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/next-one
"After a decade of often overblown stories about one would-be 'fat gene' after another, scientists seem to have at last found the gene in question....researchers based in the U.S. and Germany pinned down what may be the first gene that is commonly connected with obesity in humans."
[2] Contact Report 206, Friday, March 7, 1986
Billy talks about death of Franz Joseph Strauss[the Prime Minister of Bavaria] & about 9-11...so i think this contact was not published[except to a few inner CG members] to the public on the above date mentioned but after the particular events happened.
[3] Contact Report 208, Tuesday, April 8, 1986
"...greater the amount of serotonin is in the brain of the person, the less aggressive person would be.."
CORROBORATION: [September 2008]
Serotonin Keeps Aggression in Check
http://www.dana.org/news/Brainwork/detail.aspx?id=13182
"Now, researchers at Cambridge University and UCLA have found that serotonin also plays a critical role in regulating emotions such as impulsive aggression during social decision making."
P.S : Correct me if i made mistakes in years and data
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Davidmg
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 03:18 pm: |
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Scott
here the link to the article that user name "Thetruth" posted
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31410&page=2 |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 168
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:29 am: |
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Thanks Mahigitam for your research.
Salome.
Suv
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 08:57 pm: |
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Salome Suv,
i have doubt regarding the distribution of contact notes having some sensitive content[like 9/11]...
If a contact report has both a sensitive content like 9/11 and also at the same time have some useful[medicine,etc] info which is useful to people..will that contact report be published excluding 9/11 content or the whole report wud only be published after sensitive 9/11 event....?
For example in Contact Report 206, Friday, March 7, 1986
"...much guilt will be awarded for an event that will occur on the 11th of September, 2001 in America, when fundamentalist, radical extremists, who hate Americans, will murder thousands of people in an act of terrorism, about which I may not mention the closer details officially but rather only tell you confidentially...."
Didnt mention about extremist muslims & planes but exact date is given..so is this contact report published on 1986 or only released after 2001..
It also contains some interesting data,that would cme under prophecies
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"It will be very bad with the Swiss national pride, namely in the year 2001, when the Swissair will be entered by irresponsible managers and administrators...."
CORROBORATION :
Swissair Grounding 2001
http://www.all-about-switzerland.info/swissair-history-grounding-2001.html
[2]
"new president of the USA only a few months earlier, a man by the name of Bush, whose father will have already been a U.S. president"
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 75
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 09:02 pm: |
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Contact Report 212, Thursday, November 6, 1986
Quetzal : ....Americans, in their great pride, are encountered by aircraft that are reutilized as destructive and thousand-fold deadly weapons.
Billy : You mean, what will happen with respect to the WTC, as you told me in confidence, an event that will arrive in about 15 years; do you mean that?
Quetzal : That is correct. About that, you should release no information.
Is this contact report released in 1986 to public or after 2001,coz it clearly mentions "WTC,AIRCRAFTS,2001"..
Assuming that only the information regarding WTC is not published in 1986 but the rest of the contact info. is published....
Quetzal : ..Earth’s core, thus the center of the Earth, is not simply a solid mass, as is erroneously supposed by the earthly scientists; rather, it is a core that is similar to what the Sun is in its entirety......
Billy : So it’s a bubbling, nuclear furnace.
Not yet accepted by the mainstream science but found some scientists backing up this theory & waiting for funding...
"Scientific maverick's theory on Earth's core "
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/29/MNGPIA17BL45.DTL
"According to traditional theory, the core of Earth consists largely of iron.The SanDiego scientist J. Marvin Herndon has added a new wrinkle by arguing that a large deposit of uranium also exists in the core, where it powers a natural nuclear reactor or “georeactor.”
J. Marvin Herndon
http://www.nuclearplanet.com/Herndon%27s%20Nuclear%20Georeactor.html
p.s : Correct me if am wrong in attributing the corroborations...to the contact reports info.
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 173
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 11:57 am: |
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As per my understanding, parts of the contact note having sensitive content are not published for general public and are published only when the Plejaren gives a go-ahead.
Salome.
Suv
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Creational
Member
Post Number: 389
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 03:55 am: |
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Dear All,
With all the recent feedback about the movie Avatar, I thought to recommend everyone to grab yourself a bag of popcorn and rent a movie I have just watched by the name of “Golden Compass” (2007); based on a trilogy Written by Philip Pullman directed by Chris Weitz, and played by Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig, and Dakota Blue Richards,. Here you will find some details;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/
Without spoiling it too much for you , My only comment is that, the golden compass may very well be representing our own Billy’s Spiritual teaching (The teaching of Truth), The Goblet of Truth, since it reveals the truth!
This movie was criticized by Vatican and other Christian groups to be anti God/religion. Please see the interview bellow;
http://www.imdb.com/video/cbs/vi2907176985/
“Controversy surrounds the new film, "The Golden Compass," over whether it teaches children an anti-religious message. Charlie D'Agata reports.”
I love to have your feedbacks after watching the movie since much to my surprise; I couldn’t find anything about the movie or the author searching the forum posts.
This movie was supposed to have a sequel by the name of “Subtle Knife” in 2009, but interestingly enough, is now put on hold;
http://www.squidoo.com/the-subtle-knife-movie
Love,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Johnnybalmain
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 01:36 pm: |
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Hi Zhila,
My 14 yr old daughter read the book and saw the movie. Apparently there was meant to be two sequels but the first did'nt do to well so they did not follow up.
Peace John |
Creational
Member
Post Number: 390
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 06:50 pm: |
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Hi John,
My 15 year old daughter saw the movie in 2007 also. However, she has not read the books. I have just watched it for the first time. May be it is me but I thought the movie has some striking similarities to the material.That is the reason I recommended it so we could talk about it.
Have you seen it?
By the way, dear Scott/Badr, it seemed the most appropriate to post this here. Feel free to move it if you have a better thread in mind.
Love,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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Marksmanr
Member
Post Number: 141
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 02:28 am: |
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Dear Zhila,
I watched The Golden Compass movie today. Interesting how the main character is called Lyra and the boy is called Billy. The theme is the truth, and most adults wish to suppress it because they want to be "safe" in their religious belief. But Lyra is disgusted by it and takes her own free path towards the truth. This movie has a powerful message.
Thankyou and salome.
Reece Stiller
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Creational
Member
Post Number: 391
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 02:42 pm: |
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Hello Reece,
As you have cleverly observed my dear friend; other than the actual theme, all the names and places are even pointing toward the truth as we know it.
There are many hints and clues such as the dust (records?), and demons (spirits?), the witches (Semjase and others?), the Majesterium (Vatican?), the high priest using poison to stop the truth etc, etc.
I might get the books since the movies are put on hold.
BTW, I am a member of IMDB which is actually a free membership. As a member you can vote to have them actually make the sequel if there are enough votes. Watching this type of movie is great and may lead humanity to the right direction. Therefore, I find them extremely important.
There also exists a petition for the “Subtle Knife”. I think it is worth the effort. They have made a game also as I know that you have an interest in the games. Here are the links for a petition, votes, trailer, game and other good stuff;
http://www.squidoo.com/the-subtle-knife-movie
http://www.imdb.com/video/cbs/vi2907176985/
I just posted the petition in my facebook as I find this extremely relevant to the material thus important to produce.We might need to investigate a bit about the writer Mr. Philip Pullman!!!
Love,
Zhila,
Thank you Billy.
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