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    Gib_niner Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 06-2006 |
Interesting to see what's on hillary clinton's bookshelf of late..one can only wonder as to how much of the bigger picture she actually grasps or is aware of? (btw better to just turn off volume on this video - annoying unnecessary excessive rock music.) http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/37989/Hillary_Clintons_BUSTED_On_E_T__And_UFO_s/ also, wonder does Billy know anything about the following - ie apparently much increased ufo activity in the Himalayas leading some to conjecture about a possible base (or indeed possible construction of totally new base no less) http://www.exopoliticsireland.ie/news/2-blog/71-villagers-say-aliens-building-base.html | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2009 |
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100128/NL_sky_100128/20100128/?hub=MontrealHome Missiles off the eastern coast of Canada? I wonder if Norad knows what they were? http://www.colinandrews.net/SolarSpheres-02.html Nasa confesses to having telemeters (just like the Plejaren). | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 214 Registered: 01-2009 |
Hi all http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_231 Contact Reports volume: 6 Page number(s): 120 Date/time of contact: 9th November 1989 Translator(s): Dyson Devine and Vivienne Legg Date of original translation: Unknown Corrections and improvements made: N/A Contact person: Quetzal Quetzal 38. Bush junior and Blair would plot with one another against Iraq, whereby Bush, will avenge his father's defeat in the Gulf War through a new war against Saddam Hussein, as already would be resolved by both Bushes and their closest hangers-on, to which also the highest positions of the CIA belong, if the plotted war in 1991 would not bring the desired results. Here in England Tony Blair has given "evidence" of his claims that Saddam had WMD's and that is was right to murder, rape and torture innocent men, women and children in Iraq along with he even more warmongering Bush JR. I have seen some of Tony Blair's answers to the questions put forward to him. In my mind he is digging a big hole for himself as he continues to lie about his decision to Bomb the crap out of Iraq. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100129/tuk-blair-no-private-deal-with-bush-over-dba1618.html Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2009 |
Tony Blair should have stayed on the front page of Mad magazine.  Am I the only one who sees the striking resemblance? Btw Stephen Moore, I really appreciate all your hard work, as I never got to tell you that from a previous post on this thread. I'm sorry for getting so caught up in the little things. What you said is what matters the most. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 146 Registered: 07-2009 |
I am taking the chance that posting these two items in their entirety will be allowed because of the terrible, shameful truths within them, of which we must become aware (especially here in the U.S.). If this is too much, out of place, etc. and is moved, edited, etc. I will understand: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/jan/11/mawkish-maybe-avatar-profound-important AVATAR IS A PROFOUND, INSIGHTFUL, IMPORTANT FILM ON MANY LEVELS! / CAMERON's BLOCKBUSTER OFFERS A CHILLING METAPHOR FOR THE WHITE ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT EUROPEAN BUTCHERY OF ALMOST 100,000,000 NATIVE AMERICANS ... NO WONDER THE U.S. NEO-NAZI, FANATICAL, ULTRA-RIGHT WING HATES IT! – By George Monbiot, The Guardian, Monday, February 1, 2010 AVATAR, James Cameron's blockbusting 3D film, is both profoundly silly and profound. It's profound because, like most films about aliens, it is a metaphor for contact between different human cultures. But in this case the metaphor is conscious and precise: this is the story of European engagement with the native peoples of the Americas. It's profoundly silly because engineering a happy ending demands a plot so stupid and predictable that it rips the heart out of the film. The FATE of the native Americans is much closer to the story told in another new film, "The Road," in which a remnant population flees in terror as it is hunted to extinction. But this is a story no one wants to hear, because of the challenge it presents to the way we choose to see ourselves. Europe was massively enriched by the genocides in the Americas; the American nations were founded on them. This is a history we cannot accept. In his book AMERICAN HOLOCAUST, the U.S. scholar David Stannard documents the greatest acts of genocide the world has ever experienced. In 1492, some 100 million native people lived in the Americas. By the end of the 19th century almost all of them had been exterminated. Many died as a result of disease, but the mass extinction was also engineered. WHEN the Spanish arrived in the Americas, they described a world which could scarcely have been more different to their own. Europe was ravaged by war, oppression, slavery, fanaticism, disease and starvation. The populations they encountered were healthy, well-nourished and mostly (with exceptions like the Aztecs and Incas) peaceable, democratic and egalitarian. Throughout the Americas the earliest explorers, including Columbus, remarked on the natives' extraordinary hospitality. The CONQUISTADORES marvelled at the amazing roads, canals, buildings and art they found, which in some cases outstripped anything they had seen at home. None of this stopped them destroying everything and everyone they encountered. The BUTCHERY began with Columbus. He slaughtered the native people of Hispaniola (now Haiti and the Dominican Republic) by unimaginably brutal means. His soldiers tore babies from their mothers and dashed their heads against rocks. They fed their dogs on living children. On one occasion they hung 13 Indians in honour of Christ and the 12 disciples, on a gibbet just low enough for their toes to touch the ground, then disembowelled them and burnt them alive. COLUMBUS ordered all the native people to deliver a certain amount of gold every three months; anyone who failed had his hands cut off. By 1535 the native population of Hispaniola had fallen from eight million to zero: partly as a result of disease, partly due to murder, overwork and starvation. The CONQUISTADORES spread this civilising mission across central and south America. When they failed to reveal where their mythical treasures were hidden, the indigenous people were flogged, hanged, drowned, dismembered, ripped apart by dogs, buried alive or burnt. The soldiers cut off women's breasts, sent people back to their villages with their severed hands and noses hung round their necks and hunted them with dogs for sport. But most were killed by enslavement and disease. The SPANISH discovered that it was cheaper to work the native Americans to death and replace them than to keep them alive: the life expectancy in their mines and plantations was three to four months. Within a century of their arrival, about 95% of the population of South and Central America were dead. In CALIFORNIA during the 18th century the Spanish systematised this extermination. A Franciscan missionary called Junpero Serra set up a series of "missions": in reality concentration camps using slave labour. The native people were herded in under force of arms and made to work in the fields on one fifth of the calories fed to African American slaves in the 19th century. They died from overwork, starvation and disease at astonishing rates, and were continually replaced, wiping out the indigenous populations. JUNPERO SERRA, the Eichmann of California, was beatified by the Vatican in 1988. He now requires one more miracle to be pronounced a saint. WHILE the Spanish were mostly driven by the lust for gold, the British who colonised North America wanted land. In New England they surrounded the villages of the native Americans and murdered them as they slept. As genocide spread westwards, it was endorsed at the highest levels. George Washington ordered the total destruction of the homes and land of the Iroquois. Thomas Jefferson declared that his nation's wars with the Indians should be pursued until each tribe "is exterminated or is driven beyond the Mississippi." DURING the Sand Creek massacre of 1864, troops in Colorado slaughtered unarmed people gathered under a flag of peace, killing children and babies, mutilating all the corpses and keeping their victims' genitals to use as tobacco pouches or to wear on their hats. Theodore Roosevelt called this event "as rightful and beneficial a deed as ever took place on the frontier." The BUTCHERY hasn't yet ended: last month the Guardian reported that Brazilian ranchers in the western Amazon, having slaughtered all the rest, tried to kill the last surviving member of a forest tribe. YET the greatest acts of genocide in history scarcely ruffle our collective conscience. Perhaps this is what would have happened had the Nazis won the second world war: the Holocaust would have been denied, excused or minimised in the same way, even as it continued. The PEOPLE of the nations responsible -- Spain, Britain, the U.S. and others -- will tolerate no comparisons, but the final solutions pursued in the Americas were far more successful. Those who commissioned or endorsed them remain national or religious heroes. Those who seek to prompt our memories are ignored or condemned. THIS is why the right hates AVATAR. In the neocon Weekly Standard, John Podhoretz complains that the film resembles a "revisionist western" in which "the Indians became the good guys and the Americans the bad guys." He says it asks the audience "to root for the defeat of American soldiers at the hands of an insurgency." Insurgency is an interesting word for an attempt to resist invasion: insurgent, like savage, is what you call someone who has something you want. L'Osservatore Romano, the official newspaper of the Vatican, condemned the film as "just an anti-imperialistic, anti-militaristic parable." But at least the right knows what it is attacking. In the New York Times the liberal critic Adam Cohen praises AVATAR for championing the need to see clearly. It reveals, he says, "a well-known principle of totalitarianism and genocide -- that it is easiest to oppress those we cannot see." BUT in a marvellous unconscious irony, he bypasses the crashingly obvious metaphor and talks instead about the light it casts on Nazi and Soviet atrocities. We have all become skilled in the art of not seeing. I AGREE with its rightwing critics that AVATAR is crass, mawkish and cliched. But it speaks of a truth more important -- and more dangerous -- than those contained in a thousand arthouse movies. RELATED RESOURCE PAGE: Reconsider COLUMBUS Day: http://nhne-pulse.org/?page_id=2314 And here's an article from 2007 about this tragic situation... ------------------------------------------ http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/08/4398/ COLUMBUS DAY: AS RAPE RULES AFRICA and AMERICAN CHURCHES EMBRACE VIOLENT, SADISTIC and BLOODTHIRSTY "CHRISTIAN VIDEO GAMES!" – By Thom Hartmann, Common Dreams Columbus Day, Monday, October 8, 2007 "Gold is most excellent; gold constitutes treasure; and he who has it does all he wants in the world, and can even lift souls up to Paradise." -- Christopher Columbus, 1503 letter to the king and queen of Spain. "Christopher Columbus not only opened the door to a New World, but also set an example for us all by showing what monumental feats can be accomplished through perseverance and faith." -- George H.W. Bush, 1989 speech. If you fly over the country of Haiti on the island of Hispaniola, the island on which Columbus landed, it looks like somebody took a blowtorch and burned away anything green. Even the ocean around the port capital of Port au Prince is choked for miles with the brown of human sewage and eroded topsoil. From the air, it looks like a lava flow spilling out into the sea. The history of this small island is, in many ways, a microcosm for what's happening in the whole world. When Columbus first landed on Hispaniola in 1492, virtually the entire island was covered by lush forest. The Taino "Indians" who loved there had an apparently idyllic life prior to Columbus, from the reports left to us by literate members of Columbus's crew such as Miguel Cuneo. When Columbus and his crew arrived on their second visit to Hispaniola, however, they took captive about two thousand local villagers who had come out to greet them. Cuneo wrote: "When our caravels where to leave for Spain, we gathered some thousand six hundred male and female persons of those Indians, and these we embarked in our caravels on February 17, 1495 for those who remained, we let it be known (to the Spaniards who manned the island's fort) in the vicinity that anyone who wanted to take some of them could do so, to the amount desired, which was done." Cuneo further notes that he himself took a beautiful teenage Carib girl as his personal slave, a gift from Columbus himself, but that when he attempted to have sex with her, she "resisted with all her strength." So, in his own words, he "thrashed her mercilessly and raped her." While Columbus once referred to the Taino Indians as cannibals, a story made up by Columbus -- which is to this day still taught in some U.S. schools -- to help justify his slaughter and enslavement of these people. He wrote to the Spanish monarchs in 1493: "It is possible, with the name of the Holy Trinity, to sell all the slaves which it is possible to sell here as there are so many of these slaves, and also brazilwood, that although they are living things they are as good as gold." Columbus and his men also used the Taino as sex slaves: it was a common reward for Columbus' men for him to present them with local women to rape. As he began exporting Taino as slaves to other parts of the world, the sex-slave trade became an important part of the business, as Columbus wrote to a friend in 1500: "A hundred castellanoes (a Spanish coin) are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to 10 (years old) are now in demand." However, the Taino turned out not to be particularly good workers in the plantations that the Spaniards and later the French established on Hispaniola: they resented their lands and children being taken, and attempted to fight back against the invaders. Since the Taino where obviously standing in the way of Spain's progress, Columbus sought to impose discipline on them. For even a minor offense, an Indian's nose or ear was cut off, se he could go back to his village to impress the people with the brutality the Spanish were capable of. Columbus attacked them with dogs, skewered them with pikes, and shot them. Eventually, life for the Taino became so unbearable that, as Pedro de Cordoba wrote to King Ferdinand in a 1517 letter, "As a result of the sufferings and hard labor they endured, the Indians choose and have chosen suicide. Occasionally a hundred have committed mass suicide. The women, exhausted by labor, have shunned conception and childbirth. Many, when pregnant, have taken something to abort and have aborted. Others after delivery have killed their children with their own hands, so as not to leave them in such oppressive slavery." Eventually, Columbus and later his brother Bartholomew Columbus who he left in charge of the island, simply resorted to wiping out the Taino altogether. Prior to Columbus' arrival, some scholars place the population of Haiti/Hispaniola (now at 16 million) at around 1.5 to 3 million people. By 1496, it was down to 1.1 million, according to a census done by Bartholomew Columbus. By 1516, the indigenous population was 12,000, and according to Las Casas (who were there) by 1542 fewer than 200 natives were alive. By 1555, every single one was dead. This wasn't just the story of Hispaniola; the same has been done to indigenous peoples worldwide. Slavery, apartheid, and the entire concept of conservative Darwinian Economics, have been used to justify continued suffering by masses of human beings. Dr. Jack Forbes, Professor of Native American Studies at the University of California at Davis and author of the brilliant book "Columbus and Other Cannibals," uses the Native American word wétiko (pronounced WET-ee-ko) to describe the collection of beliefs that would produce behavior like that of Columbus. Wétiko literally means "cannibal," and Forbes uses it quite intentionally to describe these standards of culture: we "eat" (consume) other humans by destroying them, destroying their lands, taking their natural resources, and consuming their life-force by enslaving them either physically or economically. The story of Columbus and the Taino is just one example. We live in a culture that includes the principle that if somebody else has something we need, and they won't give it to us, and we have the means to kill them to get it, it's not unreasonable to go get it, using whatever force we need to. In the United States, the first "Indian war" in New England was the "Pequot War of 1636," in which colonists surrounded the largest of the Pequot villages, set it afire as the sun began to rise, and then performed their duty: they shot everybody -- men, women, children, and the elderly -- who tried to escape. As Puritan colonist William Bradford described the scene: "It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they [the colonists] gave praise therof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully." The Narragansetts, up to that point "friends" of the colonists, were so shocked by this example of European-style warfare that they refused further alliances with the whites. Captain John Underhill ridiculed the Narragansetts for their unwillingness to engage in genocide, saying Narragansett wars with other tribes were "more for pastime, than to conquer and subdue enemies." In that, Underhill was correct: the Narragansett form of war, like that of most indigenous Older Culture peoples, and almost all Native American tribes, does not have extermination of the opponent as a goal. After all, neighbors are necessary to trade with, to maintain a strong gene pool through intermarriage, and to insure cultural diversity. Most tribes wouldn't even want the lands of others, because they would have concerns about violating or entering the sacred or spirit-filled areas of the other tribes. Even the killing of "enemies" is not most often the goal of tribal "wars": It's most often to fight to some pre-determined measure of "victory" such as seizing a staff, crossing a particular line, or the first wounding or surrender of the opponent. This wétiko type of theft and warfare is practiced daily by farmers and ranchers worldwide against wolves, coyotes, insects, animals and trees of the rainforest; and against indigenous tribes living in the jungles and rainforests. It is our way of life. It comes out of our foundational cultural notions. So it should not surprise us that with the doubling of the world's population over the past 37 years has come an explosion of violence and brutality, and as the United States runs low on oil, we are now fighting wars in oil-rich parts of the world. It shouldn't surprise us that our churches are using violent "kill the infidels" video games to lure in children, while in parts of Africa contaminated by our culture and rich in oil (Congo) rape has become so widespread as to make the front pagen of yesterday's New York Times. These are all dimensions, after all, our history, which we celebrate on Columbus Day. But if we wake up, and we help the world wake up, it need not be our future. ------------------------------------------ Excerpted and slightly edited from "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: The Fate of the World and What We Can Do Before It's Too Late," a book by Thom Hartmann http://www.thomhartmann.com/ which helped inspire Leonardo DiCaprio's new movie "The 11th Hour." Hartmann's most recent book is "Cracking The Code: How to Win Hearts, Change Minds, and Restore America's Original Vision." | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 376 Registered: 06-2008 |
Hi Michael, As to the origins of and justification for the wholesale subjugation and genocide carried out in the Americas those interested might wish to examine these documents. Found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requerimiento And another: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas Requerimiento. (Document written in 1513 by jurist Palacios Rubios, of the Council of Castile): "On the part of the King, Don Fernando, and of Doña Juana, his daughter, Queen of Castille and León, subduers of the barbarous nations, we their servants notify and make known to you, as best we can, that the Lord our God, Living and Eternal, created the Heaven and the Earth, and one man and one woman, of whom you and we, all the men of the world at the time, were and are descendants, and all those who came after and before us. But, on account of the multitude which has sprung from this man and woman in the five thousand years since the world was created, it was necessary that some men should go one way and some another, and that they should be divided into many kingdoms and provinces, for in one alone they could not be sustained. Of all these nations God our Lord gave charge to one man, called St. Peter, that he should be Lord and Superior of all the men in the world, that all should obey him, and that he should be the head of the whole human race, wherever men should live, and under whatever law, sect, or belief they should be; and he gave him the world for his kingdom and jurisdiction. And he commanded him to place his seat in Rome, as the spot most fitting to rule the world from; but also he permitted him to have his seat in any other part of the world, and to judge and govern all Christians, Moors, Jews, Gentiles, and all other sects. This man was called Pope, as if to say, Admirable Great Father and Governor of men. The men who lived in that time obeyed that St. Peter, and took him for Lord, King, and Superior of the universe; so also they have regarded the others who after him have been elected to the pontificate, and so has it been continued even till now, and will continue till the end of the world. One of these Pontiffs, who succeeded that St. Peter as Lord of the world, in the dignity and seat which I have before mentioned, made donation of these isles and Tierra-firme to the aforesaid King and Queen and to their successors, our lords, with all that there are in these territories, as is contained in certain writings which passed upon the subject as aforesaid, which you can see if you wish. So their Highnesses are kings and lords of these islands and land of Tierra-firme by virtue of this donation: and some islands, and indeed almost all those to whom this has been notified, have received and served their Highnesses, as lords and kings, in the way that subjects ought to do, with good will, without any resistance, immediately, without delay, when they were informed of the aforesaid facts. And also they received and obeyed the priests whom their Highnesses sent to preach to them and to teach them our Holy Faith; and all these, of their own free will, without any reward or condition, have become Christians, and are so, and their Highnesses have joyfully and benignantly received them, and also have commanded them to be treated as their subjects and vassals; and you too are held and obliged to do the same. Wherefore, as best we can, we ask and require you that you consider what we have said to you, and that you take the time that shall be necessary to understand and deliberate upon it, and that you acknowledge the Church as the Ruler and Superior of the whole world, and the high priest called Pope, and in his name the King and Queen Doña Juana our lords, in his place, as superiors and lords and kings of these islands and this Tierra-firme by virtue of the said donation, and that you consent and give place that these religious fathers should declare and preach to you the aforesaid. If you do so, you will do well, and that which you are obliged to do to their Highnesses, and we in their name shall receive you in all love and charity, and shall leave you, your wives, and your children, and your lands, free without servitude, that you may do with them and with yourselves freely that which you like and think best, and they shall not compel you to turn Christians, unless you yourselves, when informed of the truth, should wish to be converted to our Holy Catholic Faith, as almost all the inhabitants of the rest of the islands have done. And, besides this, their Highnesses award you many privileges and exemptions and will grant you many benefits. But, if you do not do this, and maliciously make delay in it, I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country, and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their Highnesses; we shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as their Highnesses may command; and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey, and refuse to receive their lord, and resist and contradict him; and we protest that the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault, and not that of their Highnesses, or ours, nor of these cavaliers who come with us. And that we have said this to you and made this Requisition, we request the notary here present to give us his testimony in writing, and we ask the rest who are present that they should be witnesses of this Requisition." Cheers. | ||
Kingman Member Post Number: 759 Registered: 07-2004 |
I've recently watched Avatar, and have been listening to Thom Hartmann- Monday thru Friday every week for a few years now, and can say that Mr. Cameron, and Thom, are people that dare to speak/show the hard truths which pervade our past and current historical realities, which is that of an evil darkness. It's our barbaric nature we are constantly re-taught by those in power, thus enslaving us in their desire for the material riches. Mr Hartmann is confronted constantly, by his design, by the thinking of the right. He directs his phone screeners to always move any conservative based callers to the front of the line when he takes calls. It's clear these people are in the thought they are justified in their policies and actions. Scientifically proven that the Republican-based mind is vastly different than a Democratically aligned mind, the lower level Republicans are programmed with constant reinforcement to the necessary mindset to maintain the parties power. The base Democratic members(not the powerful leaders) don't need to be constantly reminded of their direction. Fear is heavily favored by the Republican leaders to motivate their base. While Democrat's can be motivate also thru reminders that invoke fears, theirs has a much stronger base in reality. The Earth-person is a defective beast of its own design at this point in its evolution. What has been really abandoned from the nature of humankind is the power of the spirit. Religion has been the other original sin we've allowed to fester. Correcting our genetically engendered form is considerably more challenging than using our own individual abilities to reason for ourselves that religion is the anti-logos, stagnating poison of humanity, that has created the material greed and is going to destroy our world if left unchallenged in its path. I'm sure any conscious, truth following advanced race that examines us, could only conclude that nearly all our different civilizations are in a very deep, hypnotic-like trance. Sadly, we must represent an unusual precedent of an incredibly negative nature in our universe. A single idea, one which could help awaken our future generations, would be to constantly impress into the children that their minds are easily programmed by others to become unknowingly enslaved by these others. Tooling them to see the wrong living and negative side of life as a positive god-loving side. Our world we live in is a lie, and you will always be lied to, unless you learn to operate by your own responsibility powers. All directions are choices, it's just needs to be examined, at an individuals level, as to who's direction is this really. American schools train our children to pass examines, not to reason out a subject. Our next generation will surely decide whether we live in a future which a slow growth towards the better happens, or we live in a long drawn out darkness of suffering beyond anything we are even capable of imagining until we eventually return to the rightful living, several centuries from now. There can hardly be anything in between. a friend in america Shawn | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 857 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear friends, We also went and watched Avatar recently, enjoyed it immensely and were impressed with some of the teasing hints, that Cameron may have been exposed to and influenced by Billy's texts. We also applaud his metaphors of the abovementioned heinous atrocities. But without taking anything away from those metaphors, I just wanted to remark on the fact that this mainstream mega-production was PRIMARILY about advanced human extraterrestrials, (who were not evil monsters!) with whom we were in contact in 2154 - as in "ET contact", regardless of whether it was "us" contacting "them" or the other way around. Reviewers seem to be ignoring this.The important metaphor BEHIND the story seems to have overshadowed the important story itself. All in all, it left me feeling good about how the truth is starting to visibly seep into the culture, but left me feeling more apprehensive than ever that the Dark Order might decide to react to this unexpected global cultural phenomenon called "Avatar", with their delayed hoaxed "ET" invasion plans, before us cattle start losing our induced terror of "aliens". (I've cited the references to this on this forum recently.) Salome, Dyson | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 796 Registered: 03-2004 |
Avatar was written before BEAM went public. patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Bianca Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 03-2009 |
Dyson, my sentiments exactly! And I was sitting enjoying this movie and thinking to myself... finally someone has the courage to tell it to the general population and give them some 'food for thought', I was also trying to remember Billy's material vis a vis this movie and asking myself... was he 'influenced'? he wouldnt know it... ! but then I wondered what counter productive rubbish Hollywood will produce soon? | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1636 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Stephen.... Yes, an familiar with your posted information. And 'Yes' it does show very CLEAR...HOW Criminal The Bush's are and Bush junior's 'lap dog'...Tony Blair. [As Tony Blair...is named in the media!] Some - Criminal Organization -...there are. And even getting away with it all! We know now the facts from the interviews on the television, but WHO is going to persecute....these WAR Criminals!?? Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1637 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michael.... Excellent posting! I have the views, as mentioned! Have not yet seen the movie, but perhaps soon? Edward. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 06-2009 |
As per my knowledge, Avatar's script was written in 1994. There was something like a "director speaks" in HBO 3 months ago hat was telecasted here. BEAM actually went public in 1964 in New Delhi, India. Salome. Suv | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 797 Registered: 03-2004 |
The Avatar story, according to Cameron, was created decades ago although th= e final script was more recent. patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1325 Registered: 02-2000 |
People can think up things similar to what Billy writes. I think its a mistake to jump to conclusions to fast & associate Cameron as a BEAM student! My Website | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 559 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Michael, Avatar was a masterpiece as far as I'm concerned. It is nice to see large groups of the population being exposed to differing viewpoints. All you have to do is look at the history of the Americas as you have so rightly done... to see the fallacy of the conquering "newcomers'" policies. As Marian often says it is good to put Billy's wonderful writings into our own perspective, in our own words... in order to more fully understand the novel and intelligent ideas he shares with us. Happy Birthday to our friend! | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 04-2006 |
I saw Avatar today and thought it was great! I was very moved by this film. I saw it as an allegory of what the whites did to the natives in North America, South America, Australia, New Zealand--almost complete genocide for the sake of monetary profit by corporate magnates. And since corporations are the real power in developed countries: they have carte blanche to kill as needed. They usually are clever in creating a body of lies that help to dehumanize the victims. (Easier to kill 'em). | ||
Sitkaa Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 10-2004 |
Eustace Mullins epitaph: Eustace Mullins Passes On 2-2-10 Legendary author of scores of books and pamphlets demolishing the lies of warmaking mainstream media, historian Eustace Mullins died Tuesday, Feb. 2, at the home of his caretaker in a small town in Texas. "He was absolutely BRILLIANT in his research, writing and verbal presentations, and as honest a man and scholar as our country has ever produced. In all the interviews I had the great honor of doing with Eustace, he never ceased to amaze me...and to teach all of us critically-important truths about our world and the evil, satanic group that is and has been dominating it for far too long. HIs knowledge and wisdom about the controllers was simply astonishing." said Jeff Rense. Mullins, who would have been 87 in March, suffered a stroke three weeks ago in Columbus, Ohio. He had been on an extended tour of his admirers for much of the past year, visiting and chatting with many of his thousands of fans who jumped at the chance to buy his books from him in person. The author of such incendiary books as "Secrets of the Federal Reserve, "Murder by Injection, and "The Curse of Canaan, Mullins was harrassed by the FBI for almost a half century, and had one of his books burned in Germany in the 1950s. These stories are recounted in one of his books, "A Writ for Martyrs. A protege of the imprisoned patriotic poet Ezra Pound, Mullins compiled a well-researched raft of works that detailed the passage down through time of a hereditary group of banker killers who have essentially ruled the world from behind the scenes since ancient times. "Eustace Mullins was the greatest political historian of the 20th century, and not just because he was not beholden to the power structure that deters candid reports about significant events, but because, guided by the greatest poet of the 20th century who was imprisoned for broadcasting for peace, his meticulous research eventually uncovered virtually every significant political secret of the last 400 years. "It, is a pity so many people are afraid to believe what Mullins told them, because it was much more of the truth than has ever been seen in our schools or our media. Funeral arrangements and appropriate memorial information have yet to be released. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins Love is always the way | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 880 Registered: 03-2004 |
R.I.P Eustace Mullins. You will live on through your heroic work and in the hearts of all those who carry it forward. Salome, Dyson | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1326 Registered: 02-2000 |
I'm sorry but Eustance Mullins was a racist & anti-semite. A fan favorite of Neo- Nazis everywhere. And was the first to write about NWO / Jewish conspiracies in the 70s up to now. My Website | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 380 Registered: 06-2008 |
RIP Eustace Mullins. Gentleman, dedicated investigator and seeker of truth. To get an some idea of his message, integrity, knowledge and sense of humor here is the first from a 7 part Youtube series. Part 1 Eustace Mullins talks about the New World Order (interview date around 1992-1993) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jy8QgEpXhE Each part about 7-9 minutes. If you remain interested after watching Eustace Mullins interview trawl about for videos by Jordan Maxwell and Daniel Estulin. Cheers. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 887 Registered: 03-2004 |
Dear Norm, I hope you're well. Those are very serious, unsupported charges you've made, about which we can perhaps agree to disagree. Billy's material reveals much the same thing as Mullins', albeit in much less detail. Salome, Dyson | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 119 Registered: 03-2006 |
Actually, Mullin's material is actually very dangerous because you are exposing the bigwigs for what they are. This material could get you shot or incarcerated, and Billy doesn't want that. That's why Billy and Ptaah and Quetzal in their conversations are not permitted to talk about the military-industrial complex. It doesn't hurt to know, but what could you do about it? Going against these people is impossible and they can and will make your life a living hell if you get too close to knowing their plans. The only thing I could think of that is in our power after reading the prophetic and predictive information for the third millenium is to halt overpopulation so that these people can't get rich off of the vast amount of uneducated humanity available right now for the taking. Billy doesn't talk about this stuff for our own safety and for the safety of his mission. Overpopulation, which leaves many people uneducated and gullible, is our main problem, not George Bush, the CIA, or The Illuminati, or whatever. Like I said, it doesn't hurt to know this information but it is very dangerous and could wind you up in a mental institute or something. We have to fight where we could win, that is, within ourselves, arming ourselves with spiritual knowledge and abilities to lead life without a doubt and in success of our spiritual abilities. There, within our spirit, nothing could touch us, and that's where the main battle should be. Not outside of ourselves because these people have real power and they dont shrink from the worse possible deeds. As we know, nothing is impossible for them. Be careful! I don't wish to sound fatalistic, but I'm not saying this for no reason, you know? Spiritual abilities and knowledge are our best possible defence against anything, and like it said in the Goblet of Truth, it is not required for you to give your life for the Truth. Life is much more precious than that. I'm not Batman or something you know, going after criminals, like some vigilante. That's insane! I think it is better to just concentrate on your spiritual nature and discover what that is instead of worring about criminal activities of these people. Trying to educate people about this stuff is, using one of Billy's expressions, like trying to teach a donkey to brush it's teeth. Using spiritual abilities to spread peace, love and consciousness, in the long run, will do far more good than babbling like a crazy loon about the Illuminati and George Bush and the freemasons. Besides, nobody would believe us (That's NOT how we should operate, by the way, looking for other people to believe us!) because there is so much misinformation out there that everybody has their own assumptions and they live by them. Besides this, we have no evidence for our claims, and could wind up incarcerated. That sucks. Like Billy says, the wise rarely utter a word to speak to or counsel because they know the truth requires few words. If you use the spiritual teaching and teach people the nature of assumptions (versus knowledge) and the nature of themselves and how to use their consciousness for the purposes of spreading peace and good, then we are making life matter again, a thing we could never do with babbling about the power structure of the planet. Even if there were a revolution and these bigwigs were overthrown, the people replacing them, without spiritual knowledge, would degenerate into the same thing within a few years. That's my opinion. We should concentrate on overpopulation, something we can prove and have evidence for, instead of all this mess, and in the meantime, learn to enjoy life and work hard to see our spiritual abilities unfold. I know this post will rustle a few feathers. I'm sorry. Sonik_01 |
