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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 898
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren,

"I haven't seen any mention of it yet which leads me to think that ST is wrong."

A safe bet.

:-)
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mahigitam, at the quantum level, if particles are disappearing, wouldn't they be reappearing somewhere else?
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Darren
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your opinions Rarena and Dyson.

Perhaps the P's call it something else. According to ST, strings can change/convert into Neutrinos, and they are supposed to be everywhere, even billions passing straight thru our bodies.

Its hard for me sometimes to understand the scientific side of the meier material because of all the false scientific stuff i read in books or saw on TV/Cable which i know now is a lot. Its not easy to weed out the crap outta your head!
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 1167
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

***

A Theory is Just that = a Theory.

Until some experiential evidence, experimental evidence, or practical application manifests, any theory is open for modification as new truths arise in relation to the theory. Until then, any such theory is merely someone's "bright-idea."

As to the 'Virtual Particles' which appear and disappear (all the time and everywhere in the spacetime), it should be remembered that EVERYTHING is energy, that which we call "the material world" is really energy slowed by the value of C^2.

In effect, the 'virtual particles' are the effect of energy slowing down into mass, then returning to the energy state. The Energy is in the form of 4-dimensional Fields, always vibrating at many frequencies simultaneously (which, in reality, is a continuum of all frequencies, as the Integral from Zero to Infinity), and always moving relative to every other 'point' in the system of the field -- whether manifest as Stars or deep-"empty"-space.

That's my theory, anyways, and I'm stickin' to it.

Peace

***
~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 365
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

String theory , or 'the latest theory until the next' ,has not been alluded to yet by the Plejar , as Dyson has mentioned .
Personally , it doesn't seem to me like it weaves into the fabric of reality . I don't expect that anyone would be impressed by the idea that I am unimpressed . I watched the documentaries , and thought that it would unravel soon , to be replaced by something more substantial eventually.

It can easily be argued that , (who am I , and what credentials do I have to have an opinion over the current macademia ? )those who theorize would know better than such as I , or , have only woven another spell to dazzle the semi-informed and sometimes interested .

However, I do give full credit to those who keep trying ; they are the ones who will crack the shell and fry the egg of knowledge , eventually . They have chosen a difficult field , as mavericks of an uncharted frontier .
Austrian physicist Hahnkamp is aware of the Plejar informaton ,as well as Dietmar Rothe , who will ultimately have their influence on our future science .

MC
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Universe is basically composed out of spiritual energy - that we know of.

Just speculating and trying to connect the dots. What if waves of time imparts characteristics properties like like charge, spin and mass to spiritual energy? Then "particles" need not go anywhere - they are just "there" (matter) or "nowhere" (fine-matter). The basis of this thought was knowing the events around Billy's 7 minutes into timelessness where material body did not existed, but conciousness (spiritual energy??) did. Somewhere else (probably Randy Winter stuff) I found the information regarding time turning particles on and off.

But soon I begin to question this as it is mentioned in Billy's information that positive and negative energies from the 3rd and 5th belt come together, annihilate and create mass, as there are more particles than anti-particles since there is excess positive energy. There was an excellent post by Phaetonsfire on this.

Then again, there lies a possibility that positive energy from Ur-space interacts with negative energy from Transformation belt just like material energy of similar kind do - producing waves (waves of time??). Then both of these information perfectly fits each other - interaction between positive Ur space energy with negative transformation space energy producing waves of time in turn producing mass.

This cannot be proven or mentioned in Billy's information, but I just wanted to give other forum members a different line of thought.
Salome.
Suv
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Edward
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Post Number: 1654
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Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jokoveltman....


Yes, the small Wise Yoda....

Very interesting character, no?


Pleasant Studying....

Edward.
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Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
i have a question about the spirit Nokodemjon,
I hear its the same spirit as ;
Henoch
Elijah
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Jmmanuel
Mohammed

And Eduard

now here is the question. How is it posible that Billy eduard Meier could talk to Jmmanuel if its the same Spirit?????

Hope i get an answer soon,

Salome,
Hendrikus
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Rarena
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Post Number: 561
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren,

Nice to meet you and I agree with you... We don't know where they are in the area of spacetime physics... or what their exact model is and it will be many years before we find out... As to tachyons... (beyond light speed particles) it is my understanding... the Plejaren have mentioned them.
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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you guys for info on string theory..i think the appearing & disappearing of subatomic particles are explained by ST...
i have gone thru the Contact Report 213, Tuesday, December 2, 1986....and my questions are

1] Samira, an Arab girl - bitten by a poisonous snake and died..
Cudnt Billy heal her & save her life? As billy is spiritually more advanced spirit-form than Jmmanuels..or it was beyond his ability at that time...

2] BIlly : Semjase once told me something in connection with the movement of matter and light.

Quetzal : I can remember that because I was there when she told you that light can move any matter, and it actually does this.

Please explain..


3] Quetzal : The exact year of Jmmanuel’s birth was five years before the Christian calendar known today.At that time, there actually was a very large and unusually strongly radiating comet that was observable from the Earth, which we call the “Fruitful One,” because from very early times, inseminations for the Earth and for the planet Phaeton, respectively Malona, have goneout from it, by what means life could develop on these two SOL satellites.

Does this mean that life on earth & malona also came about as a result of comets(apart from black smokers)..whose debri with organic molecules entered these SOL planets...panspermia theory?..
Fear not what is not real,never was and never will be.What is real,always was and cannot be destroyed.
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Darren
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Post Number: 152
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice to meet you too Rarena! :-)
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Hendrikus1970,

Refer earlier discussion on this subject. Especially this post by Hector. This is not the proper section to discuss this.
Salome.
Suv
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Edward
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Post Number: 1657
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hendrikus....

Yes, they are the same Spirit-form only each their own personality, in each
reincarnation.

You mean, Billy going back into time and talk with Jmmanuel, I take it?

Well, it is best you study and examine the Time Travel thread; it has been
discussed over the years and just some time back. We should try to avoid
repeating the information, which is already there to read and to study, ok?

And you can also study the materials at your own pace; step-by-step; which
would make it more easy for you to understand. You can always come back for
questions, and anyone here will be pleased to help you out.

Pleasant studying and reading...


Edward.
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Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward,
Thanks for your answer .
i was thinking about this Time line subject and your right i do have to tudy this also.
But its all so much. and i think then by myself what is more important? study The Spiritual Teachings or, The contact notes ,The Goblet of truth its all so very much and very intresting.
I honestly belief that Eduard is telling the truth so maybe its best to start with the Spiritual Teachings and the Goblet of truth

Thanks again Edward,

Salome,
Hendrikus
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Thomas
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Edward but BEAM himself has said that they are not the same spirit fo= rm but only the same lineage.=A0 There is a big difference :-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Memo00
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Post Number: 407
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Hendrikus

1-Billy´s and Jmmanuel´s spirit are not "the same", everything changes, nothing remains the same even for 1 second.

2-Since the past cannot be changed if Billy travelled to the past and talked to Jmmanuel it means it has already happened 2000 years ago, so it was meant to be.

take care
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Edward
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Post Number: 1662
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys....

The point is:

The Spirit(/the Battery) IS the SAME(, only in Strength/Intensity in may
Change)....as was made clear just some time ago, once again: it is the
Consciousness...that Changes in composition/contents, and (new) Personality
(generated), to be. I stated this even already sometime, ago.

And it was indeed, meant to be, which I stated back years ago, when
discussed, also.


Edward.
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Edward
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Post Number: 1663
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hendrikus....


My apologies, I was somewhat very occupied with some other matters, not to
help you out in details, so...I made it a bit sort. But, as you study the
details with the help of the Search Engine, you will gain more insight of the
matters.

Yes, it would be positive to start with what you selected. Just take your
time. It is...a step-by-step process accumulating the substance. We all
begin...somewhere.


Edward.
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Jonzie
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mahigitam - does The Fruit One give organic life to Earth? Yes. All life on this planet was not created. Evolution did occur.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."
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Christian
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Post Number: 197
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hendrikus1970,

Jmmanuel's and Billy's spirit form is the same, although Billy's is +/- 2000 years older.

Billy was able to talk to Jmmanuel because he was allowed (through DAL technology) to physically travel back in time.

Salome,
Christian
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Techieatwork
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi all.

For me to understand how one spirit can incarnate into different bodies, I use the analogy of the flame, burning though several sticks, you can not deny it's the same flame.

The two sticks can look at each other and share stories on how hot it gets on their side, or from each other's point of view.

We are all connected in spirit, we come from the same huge flame.

Spirit burns (inhabits, incarnates) in us and experiences through us.

If anyone can share a better analogy, please do share.
--
Salome
Carlos
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Thomas
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Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Then why, Christian, did BEAM specifically say that the two spirit forms are not the same but only the lineage? I am now officially confused :-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gib_niner
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi techieatwork,

ok thats really good...so you got me thinking, not sure if this works - but going to offer it up in any case..

...in a cathode ray tube - there are only three electron beams: red, green and blue - is that right?? i think so, (my theory depends on that!)

now if we take one BEAM (he he, ) - say for example a green one, well - depending on the refraction\deflection of that BEAM - many more multiple instances of various PIXELS can be generated yet however, it must be remembered - stemming only from this 1 original BEAM alone. therefore that is to say.... 1 electron beam ray of light serving to animate or light up the various other INSTANCES OF PIXELS being generated, ie the following...
illustration serving to show it more clearly.

(dunno if it works as analogy - but maybe?! Muhaha)


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