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Justsayno
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 07:49 am: | 
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Human robot in the space station by September:
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/apr/HQ_10-086_R2.html
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 05:29 pm: |
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Ramirez,
Once again you're displaying blatant intellectual dishonestly. Yeah, after 4 minutes of listening to one of Shakespeare's plays, its obvious so you don't have to watch the rest to understand it. After 4 minutes of watching a documentary on Billy Meier, you don't need any more information because you know what it's all about. That could come straight out of the mouth of a Meier skeptic.
This is so absurd on its face I can't even believe someone is trying to foist this up as a legitimate point.
How about this video? Try this one out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838&playnext_from=TL&videos=pQQdVNsz5oE
Note at about 12:45, Tim Turner is asked about religion under the republic:
Female panel member: "There are a lot of people that don't necessarily believe in God"
Tim: "Yes, that's their prerogative."
He later states: "This has nothing to do with religious law at all"
You can watch the rest for the details on his explanation of maxims of common law.
Obviously, there are some devout Christians among these people, which shouldn't be shocking to anyone since this is a majority Christian nation. As I've said, I disagree with them on their religious views, but from the specifics of what a true Constitutional republic will entail, which is all they support, there are absolutely no restrictions on my freedom of thought or freedom to disagree with them about religion.
You have to change people through PERSUASION. Look at the Plejarens. When they offered to make contact with the U.S. government, they didn't ask the U.S. government to ban religion and enforce it with weapons of war. They know full well THE LAW OF CAUSE AND EFFECT. When you try to control other people who aren't aggressing against you, YOU CAN BE SEEN AS THE AGGRESSOR. Then you've lost a chance to speak freely with them and attempt persuasion.
I guarantee you though, that these folks will be open to speaking with anyone. Meier could knock on Tim Turner's door tomorrow and he would hear him out. He might demand more proof, but then so would a lot of people. But at least he would speak to him, which is more than one could say for Bush or Obama. They both take themselves far too seriously. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 328
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 08:34 am: |
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"A Jordanian newspaper's April Fool's Day report chronicling a late-night visit by 10-foot-tall aliens in flying saucers sparked public panic and almost led to the town's emergency evacuation, officials said Monday."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hRYPIJ1wr5RKYkV8eZIQdnBg9o9wD9ET1I980
A couple of weeks old news, but worth a notice.
Salome.
Suv
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 08:37 am: |
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Our reform party started out as an extremely right wing religious group. Truthfully it was a bit scary because they were against abortions and homosexuals. But clearer heads always prevail because most people are somewhere in the middle. The then reform party is now the conservative party which now governs our country. Guess what? Homosexuals can freely marry and abortions are not illegal or restricted. So much for the extreme religious right who never got their way.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 222
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 08:46 am: |
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Btw Hunter, our monarchy is nothing more than a figure head. Sure we have the queen's representative and have to foot the bill when the monarchy comes to visit, but really they have no say in our government or laws. I also quite like the way our parliament is set up. Because in parliament they can say anything and I mean anything and are protected by law. What is really telling is if they say the same thing outside the house of commons, because that's when they can get sued for slander. So we can always separate the wheat from the chaff by what is said outside of the house.
We have torte laws in Canada, so no suing for hurt feelings. Negligence has to be proven.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Darren
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 06:28 pm: |
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Hi Justsayno,
isn't Canada's parliament set up and laws the same as in Australia's? |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 08:34 pm: |
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Hi Darren, for the most part yes. Except your senate is elected and you have proportional representation, which we don't have, yet......
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 328
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 09:25 pm: |
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Justsayno,
I think the same thing will happen here. In common law, there must be an injured party in order for the government to claim there is a crime. Therefore two individuals entering a contract (which marriage is a form of) cannot be illegal under common law - neither can polygamy for that matter. This will basically create a libertarian society. |
Hunter
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 09:27 pm: |
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The Story of Your Enslavement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&feature=player_embedded#!
Interesting discussion of the development of present day governments. |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1146
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 11:14 pm: |
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Hi all,
Canada was late (1960) in getting a Bill of Rights. Australia is still without one and it shows.
I hope Canada doesn't still have a Governor-General who (also) legally represents the English (& Australian) Head of State, being Queen Elizabeth II, because, on 11/11/1975 (there's that number 11 again!) our duly and democratically elected Prime Minister was sacked, without notice or precedent, by the Governor General (who was, until then, merely a figurehead who opened hospitals, etc., and gave an annual Christmas address) who installed the (U.S. puppet) Leader of the Opposition as Australian Prime Minister.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis
If you are capable of reading between the lines, you will catch the familiar stench of Uncle Sam, because there's MUCH more to this story than meets the eye.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Australia
From Special Bulletin No. 30:
Die CIA ist tatsächlich eine Weltmacht, und ihre Verbrechensliste ist so lang, dass sie nicht abgemessen werden kann.
As a matter of fact the CIA is a world power, and its list of crimes is so long that it cannot be measured.
Nebst unzähligen anderen Verbrechen gehört auch das Stürzen von Regierungen in ihr Metier, folglich sie unter anderem 1953 die persische resp. iranische Regierung stürzte, 1954 die von Guatemala, wonach 1973 Chile und 1980 die Türkei folgten.
Along with innumerable other crimes, the overthrow of governments also belongs to their line of work, consequently, among others*, in 1953 they overthrew the Persian, respectively, Iranian government, in 1954 that of Guatemala, after which followed Chile in 1973 and Turkey in 1980.
*[Note: Australia, 1975]
Dass einige dieser Regierungen zuvor von der Bevölkerung demokratisch gewählt wurden, kümmerte die CIA nicht, denn für sie war nur wichtig, dass diese nicht in ihre Ziele passten, weil sie nicht mit den USA hätschelten.
The CIA was not concerned that several of these governments had been democratically elected by the population, because it was only significant to them that these governments did not fit into their goal, since they did not cuddle up to the USA. - Billy, October, 2006
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.p14-19.s30.htm
Salome,
Dyson |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1147
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 12:25 am: |
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Whistle Blower Comes Forward With Solid Proof The Price Of Gold And Silver Is Being Manipulated By Major Financial Institutions
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And it wasn’t just that Maguire predicted that the price would be forced down. It was the level of precision that he was able to communicate to the CFTC that was the most stunning. He warned the CFTC that the price of silver was to be taken down regardless of what happened to the employment numbers and that the price of silver would end up below $15 per ounce. Over the next couple of days, the price of silver was indeed taken down from $16.17 per ounce down to a low of $14.62 per ounce.
Because of Maguire’s warning, the CFTC was able to watch a crime unfold, right in front of their eyes, in real time.
So what did the CFTC do about it?
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Which is extremely alarming, because the size of this fraud absolutely dwarfs the Madoff or Enron scandals. In fact, this fraud is so gigantic that it is not even worth comparing to any of the other major financial scandals of recent times.
(snip)
Very curiously, the live television broadcast of the CFTC hearing suffered a technical failure the minute before Murphy began his testimony. The technical failure was corrected the minute after Murphy was finished.
Coincidence?
(snip)
http://www.inteldaily.com/2010/04/gold-manipulation/
Perhaps this relates to the "Order of Darkness" to which Billy makes passing reference in GoT?
Salome,
Dyson |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 07:47 am: |
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Hi Hunter, I also hope the same thing happens there.  I would still love to see marriage become a civil union. Take the religion right out of it. There is a polygamy sect in BC which the provincial police hassles on occasion. There is a concern about the underage wives. But nothing ever comes of it.
My buddy from PA sent me a video where a couple were trying out a waterbed in a store and the bed exploded. He said they would probably sue the store. I told him if that had happened in Canada, the couple would be lucky if the store paid for the dry cleaning of their clothes. It would definitely put some of your lawyers out of business.
Libertarian Society - get the hell out of my bedroom!
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 231
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 08:39 am: |
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Hi Dyson, this fall our current GG's position will not be renewed and a new one will be appointed by the Prime Minister. Whatever group of people the Queen's hubby hates the most, hopefully that's who he will hire, lol. I can guarantee that it will not be a former CBC (national media) employee (like the rest). The US would love it if the opposition would come into power. Michael Ignatieff a former Harvard professor who only came back to Canada (after being away in the US for 34 years) to become the liberal leader. Well we're not buying it. The only ones that do buy it are the media. Btw our conservatives are far more left leaning than the current democrats in the US. Socially liberal and fiscally conservative is what I like to see. For the first time in my life, I actually trust the people who govern our country.
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Hunter
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 08:50 am: |
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On Obama, per Darren's earlier comment, I've gone back and read some of what Billy has said about him recently (I've been away from this forum for a while). I have to say, on this issue, Billy seems like he's contradicting himself a little. I do not see how someone can say Obama is moving in the right direction. Granted, as Billy has said, he has a lot to deal with from previous administrations, but ONE MUST DO THE LOGICAL THING or this will just get worse.
Is Obama acting logically? By talking to world leaders more than Bush did, this could be a positive trend, but what's up with him sending more troops to Afghanistan and continuing all the old operations in Iraq in Afghanistan? Seems like the opposite of what he should be doing. Our troops marched in and they can march out - and that is what they should do. Did the world fall apart when we left Vietnam? No. And the world will not fall apart if we bring all our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. We're actually in more danger by leaving them over there. It creates more hostility towards us, as the Plejarens have commented.
Now, on health care, Obama didn't even read the bill that was passed. Is that logical? Is it logical to pass laws that you don't read? Is it logical to trust an organization like Congress, that we know is corrupt, to pass laws without reading the proposed legislation? That's like signing a contract that you don't read. It's not only not logical - it's completely stupid and irresponsible. Not to mention against the law because according to the Jefferson's Manual - the rule book for Congress - they are supposed to read the bills 3 times before they vote on them - and then the bills are supposed to go to the American people for a referendum vote.
Here's a couple of examples showing that Obama doesn't even know the specific details of what's in the plan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVjc9mopH58&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDizyQK5DHo
When you start debating specifics on this plan, Obama seems to say he doesn't know about that then changes the subject to a discussion of broad generalities. Just saying "hope and change" over and over again is meaningless when you want to have a specific debate.
Another point on economics, Billy has stated that if the U.S. government keeps spending and printing money that the only worth it will have is as wallpaper - meaning that hyperinflation will be the result of such policies. What has Obama done to change this? Nothing. He has spent more than any other President in his first year, with no signs of stopping. He is also continuing to place the U.S. in greater debt. It's like everything that Bush was doing wrong, Obama is amplifying.
What could Obama be doing, well he could actually try printing less money, or stopping the printing presses in the short term completely. The Keynesians are wrong, and have been proven to be wrong by the current financial meltdown. The solution is to stop printing money and restore some type of intrinsic backing, such as gold. The example of the German economic miracle proves that this results in prosperity. They CONTRACTED THEIR MONEY SUPPLY BY 93%, cut taxes and removed government controls over prices and wages and the result was prosperity for the people. You can read about it here:
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/GermanEconomicMiracle.html
Obama could do this, but instead he is putting greater government controls over the economy and printing more money.
On corruption, Obama took 5 times more money from Goldman Sachs than McCain did. Here's a discussion of some of the corruption from the Alex Jones show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx83je1spjw
Alex Jones, in his documentaries the Obama Deception and Fall of the Republic, has also demonstrated clearly that Obama is being used by the elites to usher in their tyrannical New World Order, and remember, Alex Jones was just as critical of George Bush, so this is not a partisan political attack.
I know Billy is wise, but I have to disagree with him that Obama is a net positive. Right now, I just don't see that. Billy is a human being and can make mistakes - so can the Plejaren. I hate to disagree with them, but I think the facts show that Obama is doing a terrible job so far.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Hunter
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Post Number: 331
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 09:05 am: |
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Various discussions about the devaluation of the U.S. dollar and the possibility of hyperinflation:
The Ultimate American Dollar Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhnHo3RDfg&playnext_from=TL&videos=awrI__ESPm4
The inevitable collapse of the dollar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3g5lUgkWk&playnext_from=TL&videos=fLISIMdOV1k
The Dollar Bubble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZA0qNsf4m0&playnext_from=TL&videos=QyRJ3DCRpNM
Robert Fisk reveals truth behind 'dollar demise' report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFi1KlUh5PI&playnext_from=TL&videos=lDx2DGWDUOk
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 502
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 08:00 pm: |
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hey there hunter, if you put any confidence into a guy like alex jones, i have to question your sanity. no offense.
rather than saying obama put more troops into afghanistan, why don;t you ask what their positions or duties are?
i see no sign that obama is doing anything that bush has done, 5 times worse, or 5 time more etc.
bush is a dog who can laugh and tell jokes while knowing full well his soldiers are going to be killed here and there to some degree and number.
you seem to place so much focus on politics and none on spirituality. i find that odd.
obama is not perfect, let's remember that.
another thing that gets me is how americans tend to say "obama is'nt doing enough, he did'nt fix this or that" rather than saying "what can i do to help my nation, what can i do to help make obama's job a bit easier so that some of the responsibility of the nations direction is placed on me and people like me, giving obama a chance to focus on other as important and significant matters that need immediete attention"?
thanks for hearing out my opinion. |
Darren
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 12:08 am: |
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Hunter, Obama can't do everything right every time. No one can. He also has restrictions that prevent him from making the right decision a lot of the time too.
What shouldn't be forgotten is that Obama's heart, so to speak, is in the right place as Billy and P's had mentioned. I think thats the important thing to remember. |
Darren
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 12:45 am: |
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"hey there hunter, if you put any confidence into a guy like alex jones, i have to question your sanity. no offense."
I agree! Actually I was just about to say something to the same effect as that. I will also add that many people believe he is a CIA disinformation agent (one of the biggest!) This 7 minute video gives a good account of whats going on and how it all works (in 2nd half video, 1st half Jones is making himself look like a complete idiot) -
Disinformation Agent & Provocateur Alex Jones
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2010/4/2/disinformation-agent-provocateur-alex-jones-1800184
other links
http://www.wingtv.net/gcnabc.html
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html
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Darren could you contact me again. I cannot locate your recent private post.
Robyn
(Message edited by indi on April 19, 2010) |
Darren
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 01:30 am: |
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I forgot to mention that I share Billy's opinion on the NWO, and not what in that video says.
Robyn, I just sent another one, thanks. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 04:26 am: |
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Hi Hunter,
You write "I hate to disagree with them, but I think the facts show that Obama is doing a terrible job so far."
Well with these Guardian Elders and Guardians Of The Republic .... are only those with blue eyes and blond hair welcome ?
So what is it that gives persons who justify their ideas & actions by quoting from bible passages special insight into a higher reality ?
What stands behind the Guardian Elders ?
Cheers.
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Sergi
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 05:19 am: |
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Good video, thanks! |
Phenix
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Post Number: 338
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 06:23 am: |
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...Servus, Ramirez,
Perhaps this is a part of the answer to your question:
" To Restore America
* Call All voter eligible Evangelical Christians in America to REGISTER TO VOTE and to VOTE in the 2010 elections and every election thereafter
* Call All Bible Believing Pastors and Christian Leaders in America to call their congregations and organizations to 100% VOTER REGISTRATION and TURNOUT
* Call All Christians to VOTE for those who acknowledge our Christian Heritage and respect God's authority over all mankind, including civil government "
http://www.restoreamerica.org/ourplan.asp
Salome. |
Hunter
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Post Number: 332
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 11:20 am: |
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Peter,
No problem. I don't put confidence in anything anyone says because of who they are. I put confidence in FACTS and FACTS alone. We're all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. And the truth is, Alex Jones has been right about a great many things. Now, he is also wrong about some things, but he will at least investigate stories that the frauds in the mainstream press try to cover up or ignore.
I know you didn't post the assertion, but as far as him being a CIA disinformation agent, I find that laughable. He has uncovered an unbelievable amount of dirt on the CIA. Why would they want someone on the air that makes the American people suspect of the CIA? Such a strategy makes no logical sense.
Darren,
I didn't say Obama should be perfect, I just said he should be logical, and the FACTS show that he isn't behaving logically. Yes, his heart may be in the right place, but if you're a bad decision maker, good intentions won't save you. The facts show that Obama is making poor decisions in many areas. He has options, but he isn't exercising those options.
Rameriz,
Once again, you fall back on intellectual dishonesty and fraud - even to the point of posting Nazi photos. If you had listened to any of the information (instead of just the 4 minutes that you admitted to) you would have heard declarations for Americans of all creeds and colors. So, no, to answer your ignorant question, this is not for caucasians only. That's ridiculous on its face. It is for all Americans of all races, and the proponents of the plan have stated that in several difference venues.
Again, if you would have listened to the first audio/video links I provided, you would see that one of the first people that want to release from prison that has been wrongly convicted is Sherry Jackson Peel - who happens to be a black woman. They fear for her safety in prison and want to get her our as soon as possible.
And Phenix - you have stumbled upon a site unaffiliated with the Restore America plan. This was announced on Sam Kennedy's call last week (4/11/10). The restoreamerica.org and restoreamerica.net sites have nothing to do with the Restore America plan. These are plans based on voting - apparently for Republicans. That will not restore America - that will destroy America.
The only official site for the Restore America plan is here:
http://guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/front-page.html
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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