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J_rod7
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Post Number: 926
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:51 pm: | 
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Best greetings All,
Gaia,
Perhaps to say, I misunderstood your meaning in "Concept of Malice." A new-born infant comes into this world with an entirely new personality and in a state of Tabula rasa, a clean Slate.
Imprinting begins immediately following birth. Unspoken thoughts of other persons generate feelings and emotions which ARE recorded by all infants, they know the truth if they are wanted, loved, secure. An infant, by virtue of having no preconceived biases, is closer to the purity of Spiritual Truth, and is able to recognize "wrongness" or "falseness" in the attitudes of those close to it. Someone approaching an infant with malice, will be recognized as such, even though the baby is unable to call for help or defend itself.
This is the intent in what I wrote. Certainly, your point is correct, that no Infant is born with malice forethought.
Matthew,
The old expression applies: "beware what you wish for, for that is what you will get." It also is true: whatever you fear the most, is what you will experience, for this is a lesson which you have chosen for your self. Your Thoughts generate your own Reality.
In Peace ... Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Michael
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Post Number: 814
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 02:55 pm: |
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And this gives unfortunate confirmation to the necessity to consider the extremes, with which we obviously seek no association:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98O1K7O1&show_article=1
Michael Horn
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 03:37 pm: |
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Badr,
What do you think about the exploitation of oil by the Saudis?
Why do you think the British put them in power to begin with?
They fight with the Jews 'like brothers'. We might hear about the murder of Princess Diana from friends of the Saudis in Egypt like Muhammad al Fayed, but the Saudis themselves are guilty of many of the same crimes as the Jews, and ultimately do constitute a splitoff of the Hebrews.
The conflict between Saudis & Israelis is not much different than that between the Windsors in England & the Rothschilds in Europe. These are the same Saudis who have offered free energy developers up to 1 billion dollars to keep quiet about their technology.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 03:53 pm: |
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Badr,
Also, I do know what the Saudis are like, as there are many Saudis at my university in Canada. They were more receptive to things like criticism of Israel and the USA, and most of them seemed to believe in Jewish conspiracies, but they were rather resistant to real criticism, even upon scientific grounds, of their country and its actions. My uncle is a politician in Canada, and a friend of the prime minister. When I started talking about the Illuminati to him, he gave me a book called 'the House of Saud' about the Saudi royal family. There are many things you could find out about your own country through reading such books and also facing the evidence, which is probably difficult to obtain where you are, that the Saudi royals also engage in the abuse of drugs, prostitutes, weapons smuggling, terrorism, and worst of all their oil enterprise, just like the Israelis and Americans, only under the guise of being traditionalists. The same goes for Dubai, where most of the wealthy men are interconnected and go out to the desert to drink alcohol and have sex with prostitutes. Even though the Saudis are probably not as bad as the Americans & Israelis, they are still barbarians for sure, and certainly have direct ties to Masons. There are likely even more Masonically-connected people in Egypt, though.
Also, to Michael & others interested:
My views on genuine Jews partly comes from what I have learned about my own ancestors from Lebanon. They pretended to be Maronite Christians while in fact being Jews, and developed a jewel merchantry there which they brought over to Chicago in the early 20th century. There, they developed connexions with organised crime and pretended to be Catholic. My great grandfather was forced to move to Canada, where he already had jewelry stores, after a disagreement with Al Capone. There are stories of ritual activities, incest, and all sorts of other immorality among them. My father remembers as a child being told by a man calling himself 'Pindar' (the head of the Rothschild family in Germany) that he was his real father. Pindar is a shapeshifting reptilian like the Queen & George Bush, and is the head of the Illuminati worldwide. Jews are not what they seem to be at all, and many of them don't even publically acknowledge their Judaism.
Just observing the idiotic state of brainwashing of the persons filmed by Max Blumenthal in Israel, though, one must take action against them, even if one is not able to imagine the whole reality of things.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 05:29 pm: |
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Badr,
Read about King Fahd's involvement with MKULTRA and sexual abuse of Monarch slaves in Cathy O'Brien's book, 'Trance-Formation of America'. Hear about the Saudi royals in the Kay Griggs interview. Listen to what Stewart Swerdlow has to say about seeing 'Middle-Eastern figures' whose names he did not know at satanic rituals in America in the 1970s, and consider that GIZA is in Egypt right nextdoor to Arabia. Just like in England, most of the hangers on/henchman/lackeys do not know about the real nature and activities of their leaders, although honestly, their treatment of oil reserves speaks for itself!
Salome,
- Matthew |
Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 05:48 pm: |
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Mr. Moore;
Keep things in perspective. Quite evidently, I would not suggest that the Plejaren need to be forcibly sterilized in droves (even if the method be reversible) -- they do not need to be, they have reached a state where the majority of those within society are capable of controlling their actions and of not procreating without first achieving the proper level of education, marriage, etc.
Earthlings are not of this level. This is evidenced by the very state which the Earth presently finds itself in. I do not doubt Billy's advice on the matter, but I don't think he would necessarily disagree with me all that much when it comes to the average Earthling -- yes, ideally, his way of doing things, by gradual education, is best -- and I am not suggesting for a moment that we should simply sterilize people and then forget about them, because that should not be the case, we should both sterilize (reversibly) them -and- educate them, as well as children, about these issues. After a few generations, low and behold, we won't need to control the masses forcefully because they will have reached a stage of competent self-control.
I do think that my method of doing things would result in a lot less bloodshed and needless loss of human life, while also allowing the human population to be brought down naturally and peacefully as the sterile folks who did not have the procedure reversed gradually grew old and died -- when one considers the current state of the human race. If people woke up and listened to Billy, that would be grand.
Facing reality, however, one must contend with the fact that the human race is on the brink of world warfare again, with many, many nuclear arms and the capacity for annihilating human life in droves with freakishly little effort. So, it is against this backdrop which I suggest the sterilization policies that I do.
Do I think these will be carried out? No, I don't think they will. I wish they would, but a regime capable and willing of carrying out such measures does not exist. What do I think will happen instead?
If things continue upon their current path, then I suspect that, as prophesied by one of Billy's former incarnations (and Jmmanuel as well, I think, I will go looking for the quote to post in a follow-up post) -- we will reach a point where they simply enforce population control with brutal measures such as the murder of the mother, father and child/foetus.
So which would you prefer? Perhaps I am wrong, and I would be happy to be wrong in this instance (although I do not think I am, considering my studies of the human race up to this point) -- but if I am not wrong, then consider again which method you would prefer.
Perhaps you will not understand or see my point here, but I suspect there are those who do understand and who would agree with me, and perhaps Billy might even be one of them, though of course I cannot say at this point in time as I have not had the opportunity to put this particular scenario before him.
Peace;
- Gaia |
Michael
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Post Number: 815
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 05:58 pm: |
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I know that this is going to come as a surprise to some people but we're not going to improve things by focusing on, and amplifying, the negative stereotypes, and actual working models, of the worst of any group.
Coincidentally, today, I spoke with a man who is hosting a presentation of mine in L.A. I didn't know it until today's conversation but he's an Israeli very into archeology, non-religious, who's lived here a long time. I figured it was a good idea to let him know just a bit about what he - and maybe I - will be getting into in my presentation.
I won't bore you with the details of my 1 1/2 hour phone conversation but suffice it to say that he was fascinated by what I told and VERY interested in our staying in communication even after the event because of his pet project, a book to help bridge the gap for peace in the Middle East. Lots more interesting stuff about him, I mean considering that he's a...Jew.
And then there's my friend and training partner, an Israeli marital arts instructor, who's become so fascinated with the info on the Meier case that he's now using the metaphors of UFOs wherever he can apply them in regards to training. He also sat spellbound listening to Obama's speech in the Middle East and was very much in admiration with the way in which he, so intelligently, tried to bridge the gap and bring people together.
Of course, may be I should remember that he's a...Jew.
Really, aren't we above this kind of stuff?
Michael Horn
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Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 05:59 pm: |
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Michael,
You seem to be confused about the difference between emotions and sentiments/feelings. Merely that I show strong sentiment in my statement does not imply that it is emotion, or uncontrolled neural outbursts as opposed to psychic reflexion (sentiment), which is the animus behind my words.
If one does not feel strong sentiment about the way that the Israelis, US-Americans, European Union, & Saudis, &c, are abusing the planet, as well as the common stupidity of the masses, one does not have much fine sentiment at all.
Indeed, most men are frustratingly stupid and imbecile, and very dependent from emotional belief as opposed to reason and sentiment. This includes those who accept illogical statements by the Plejaren about the PoZ and David Icke without reading out the blatant sarcasm and hints therein.
I strongly recommend re-reading contact 443.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 06:13 pm: |
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Contact Report 443
Ptaah
Such kinds of beings are pure inventions of the scribblers because they thereby connect the evil and want to thereby transmit the impression of the evil and diabolical, whereby the Earth humans are driven to angst and terror which naturally again has its effect on the numbers of sales of the books and brings in great profit.
Solcherart Wesen sind reine Erfindungen der Schreiberlinge, weil sie damit das Böse verbinden und dadurch den Eindruck des Bösen und Teuflischen vermitteln wollen, wodurch die Erdenmenschen in Angst und Schrecken getrieben werden, was sich natürlich wieder auf die Verkaufszahlen der Bücher auswirkt und grossen Profit einbringt.
Reptoid, respectively, reptilian beings, as these are described in the nonsensical books, exist even less in the entire universe than they do in other dimensions of this universe, so however, also not on the Earth - also not in forms of transmuted humans.
Reptiloide resp. reptilhafte Wesen, wie diese in den unsinnigen Büchern beschrieben werden, existieren ebensowenig im gesamten Universum wie auch nicht in anderen, diesem Universum eigenen Dimensionen, so aber auch nicht auf der Erde – auch nicht in Menschen verwandelte Formen.
It also corresponds to a lie that such extraterrestrial beings, or other kinds, have lived on the Earth since time immemorial or since more recent times and are even active in the governments, because assertions which claim that it is true, indeed, correspond to the crazy fantasies, illusions, angsts or conscious lies and slandering of the book-scribblers.
Auch entspricht es einer Lüge, dass solche oder andere ausserirdische Wesen seit alters her oder seit jüngerer Zeit auf der Erde leben und gar in den Regierungen tätig seien, denn Behauptungen, die darauf ausgerichtet sind, dass es doch so sei, entsprechen verrückten Phantasien, Illusionen, Ängsten oder bewussten Lügen und Verleumdungen der Buchschreiberlinge.
Yet in every regard believers do not, as a rule, let themselves be impressed by the truth, rather they faithfully remain in the prison which they themselves delusionally imagine because that is simpler than having to grapple with the real truth.
Doch Gläubige in jeder Beziehung lassen sich in der Regel nicht von der Wahrheit beeindrucken, sondern sie bleiben gläubig in dem gefangen, was sie sich wahnglaubensmässig einbilden, weil das einfacher ist, als sich mit der wirklichen Wahrheit auseinandersetzen zu müssen.
So if there was any type of "Reptilian" life forms on Earth then I think Ptaah and Billy would tell us. After all we have been told about the Bafath which in my view was dangerous for Billy to speak about openly.
There is no race of "Reptilians, Draconians" on Earth and has never been.
Just thought I would remind people of the facts from JHWH Ptaah.
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Davo
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:05 pm: |
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Hi Gaia,
Your whole reply to John should have been directed to me and my number 16 post and not to him. (and u told me to read ur posts properly?-I did)
Your reply to John was
Gaia "In all honestly, I would say that one really should not turn one's children over to any institution, public or private."
-should have been directed to me with what I said to you in my post 16
Davo "I went to both public and private schools and I didn't think there was much difference between them. They will still get all those negative influences and experiences no matter what type of school they go to in todays world."
John was actually talking about the religous side of going to private schools, something which you haven't given him a response back too yet. You did give him one but it was my reponse i gave to you that you virtually gave him. I was the one who was talking about not turning one's children over to any institution, public or private and to raise them from home. That was the whole point behind why I said that 24/7/365 bit;
Davo "...if we were to take parenting as seriously as you, we would all be at home 24/7/365 (no work) to raise our kids, something which I agree would be beneficial for our children but something which is completely unfeasible in todays world."
You missed what I was trying to say completely but instead blamed me for not reading your posts properly. You probably got posts mixed up, but I do not know.
(please don't take this as an attack from me to you coz it is not. Also like to say that I enjoy reading ur posts and to keep it up) |
Davo
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 07:29 pm: |
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to make it easier, here's what i mean;
"Consider the following as examples of bad parenting:
- sending your child to public school
- neglecting your child
- invalidating your child's experiences
- invalidating your child's perceptions
- invalidating how your child feels
- deceiving your child............."
Hi Gaia,
While I agree with most of what you say about bad parenting, I think you may be taking it to the extreme a bit because if we were to take parenting as seriously as you, we would all be at home 24/7/365 (no work) to raise our kids, something which I agree would be beneficial for our children but something which is completely unfeasible in todays world.
I went to both public and private schools and I didn't think there was much difference between them. They will still get all those negative influences and experiences no matter what type of school they go to in todays world.
Davo;
You should read my posts thoroughly, but also realize that while I speak in harsh terms, I do know and realize that the world is not going to transform into upholding the ideals of parenthood, etc. within my lifetime. That said, how does one know what one wishes to accomplish if one does not have a blue-print?
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John;
Most private schools will not properly educate a child, this is true. Consider it a matter of oversight that I did not include them upon the list as well. In all honestly, I would say that one really should not turn one's children over to any institution, public or private. Children need to be educated individually and according to their own style, which is not possible to do if one has even ten children in a group together trying to learn.
I know, also, that it is not 'feasible' for the average parent to be at home with their children as much as they should be in today's society -- but do you not realize that that's precisely part of the problem? Children suffer when their parents are not there for them, and getting back to the education: children suffer hugely when their parents are too ignorant to educate them properly themselves, which is (in addition to the time constraints) the reason one farms one's children out to public or private institutions to be educated in the first place, rather than keeping them at home and teaching them. |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 09:41 pm: |
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Michael,
The point should be clear, but let me restate it:
If I am to speak of the sterilisation of racist, religious extremist, war-like, nationalist extremist, etc. groups so that they may not raise children in such an environment, I must include the Jews therein, since they are -all of the above-, and therefore an exceptional example of those unworthy of having offspring. Those secular pseudo-Jews or non-Zionists who would feel 'unfairly treated' by this, though they would -not- be included as Jews, should simply acknowledge the fact that they are not Jews, but merely related to men who were or are Jews, and get over the idea of a 'Jewish race', which -evidently- does not exist.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Phenix
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 12:39 am: |
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Matthew,
I just want you to know, i completely disagree with you on this one.
I find your stance neither adequate, nor neutral-positive.
Hoping, you understand, that i won't be posting further on this issue,
Salome.
Adam. |
Earthling
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Post Number: 257
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:58 am: |
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Matthew, you're a comment deleted living in a world of second hand ideas, not wisdom.
Give it a rest already. Take a deep deep loooong breath .. for a couple decades .. just chill before you spread more poison on your planet.
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Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 03:14 am: |
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Gaiawingz
To be honest with you nothing you say would change my opinion on mass forced (reversible) sterilization.
You mention a nuclear war. What would happen if there was indeed a nuclear war and the survivors was all sterilized. No one would be able to have children. Humanity on Earth would be no more.
Who would decided on who gets sterilized and who doesn't. Forcing people to be sterilized would create more problems. People would become resent full and hate full towards those chosen not to be sterilized. There is enough hate between the differences of people on Earth already. If everyone knew the real meaning of life and that no matter what skin colour they have or where they was born on Earth we are all here for then same reason. To evolve.
My parents did not educate me. I educate myself as I work through life. Its not solely the responsable of the parent. The child has to want to be educated or it is a waste of time trying to educate a child.
I cannot understand how sterilizing some people, or all people would do any good for anyone. If sterilization was a good idea to do on Earth why is it not mentioned by Billy and the Plejaren. After all they know more about what is good for Humans on Earth then the rest of us.
That is all I have to say on this issue. It is not within any FIGU material and also to me personally is not a intelligent way for controlling overpopulation.
I think in the interest of this not becoming a slanging match that our discussion on this should end.
Thanks
My Website - www.ufofacts.co.uk
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Earthling
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Post Number: 258
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 08:34 am: |
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Scott - considering what Matthew has been spewing, I don't think what I said is too bad.
Matthew, who gave you the mandate to be sterilizing other humans based on your 2nd hand prejudices?
I'm all for needing a permit and passing inspections (as with building a new home) to breed; but all this sterilization talk reeks of desire for power and control over other humans, based on age old prejudices, passed on from one conspiracy freak to another. |
Michael
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Post Number: 818
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 09:46 am: |
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Matthew,
I don't know exactly why you self-destruct with things like, "Pindar is a shapeshifting reptilian like the Queen & George Bush, and is the head of the Illuminati worldwide." To think that we could have simply lured Bush out of the White House with a significant supply of flying insects and avoided the troubles of those sad, eight years!
But I am grateful that your own ancestors weren't sterilized and I hope that you are too.
Michael Horn
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Gaiawingz
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:15 am: |
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Mr. Moore;
All children want to learn. Therefore, it is absolutely the duty of a child's parents to educate that child to the best of their capabilities.
Only children who have been neglected or mistreated, ill-educated and misraised are not naturally inclined toward wanting to learn. It is true that children learn in different ways and at different rates, but certainly all naturally-developing children are full of questions about everything.
Also, you seem not to realize that, in the interests of not having people be jealous about who didn't get sterilized vs. who did -- I suggest we simply sterilize everyone, universally, at the age of 10 or 11 onward and simply have in place the proper guidelines for evaluating whether or not to reverse the procedure at a later date.
In that vein, Christopher Langan (the man with the highest documented IQ in the US) seems to agree with me: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0gjyXG5O0&feature=related
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Davo;
My replies were indeed meant to go to the individuals which they did. I maintain that you should read my past posts more carefully and actually think about them, think about what I say and what it logically entails. Perhaps if it will help you, ignore the part where I suggest the use of sterilization and simply think about what I am generally saying about children and their needs.
Also, do be aware that I have not, of yet, gone into the particulars of how I would accomplish this if (say) I were endowed with a well-trained, honourable peace-keeping force and the means to (reversibly) sterilize people. So far, I've been primarily focused on those things which parents do, inadvertently or otherwise, which cause harm to their developing child.
Peace;
- Gaia |
Badr
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Post Number: 501
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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Hi Matthew,
3 posts only in response to my short comment. I know about some of the things you talk about, not living in a bubble, as far as I know. Some of your info is true and well known but your conclusions are far from truth. I will say again this is the FIGU forum and no place for me to discuss Saudi culture, history or traditions.
Peace |
Scott
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Post Number: 1804
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:11 pm: |
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 04:51 pm: |
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Here's an eye opener about women's rights in Israel:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/israel-sex-slave-trade.pdf |
Atlantis82
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 10:30 pm: |
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many races have came here and died which means they are bound 2 reincarnate here, is that right? so many of us could have originated in other star systems/galaxies. might explain an inclination towards certain concepts |
Edward
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Post Number: 1764
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 01:21 am: |
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Hi Michael....
Yes, interesting insight.
Have seen that on a documentary, once.
Edward. |
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