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Justsayno
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Post Number: 241
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 06:32 am: | 
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Hi Michael, thanks for the message from Christian. The only reason I wanted crop circles to be made by ET's is because it would have been easier to take. Now I have to figure out who made this one so close to where I live. I don't know how I forgot this, but about a year prior to the appearance of my crop circle, exactly 20 miles south, there was a horse which the owners found dead. It was healthy but they found it with its penis lasered off and missing. No tracks, no blood, no predators, no other wounds. The horse was pastured right across the road from a church, and the community is very religious. They didn't bother with a vet, but did get the police out, but they'd never seen anything like it, and their investigation went no further. The people who owned the horse are very closed mouth and only a handful of people who live there actually know about the incident.
So I guess we should be thankful that the Dark Order is not lasering us, only cattle and horses. But when will that change?
I still think this has to do with Raytheon who has a manufacturing plant in Calgary. Is this a perfect place to do field testing or what?
Hi Dyson, before your crop circles appeared was there any mutilations?
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 261
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 08:35 am: |
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I hope it's understood that my point isn't really about the crop circles - which I personally still have a hard time accepting are made by terrestrials. I actually enjoy "being at odds" with the Meier information when that occurs because it does make me stretch my own thinking abilities.
And, while I proposed to Dyson that he stretch his own thinking in regards to this matter, I figure that he is more technologically knowledgeable than I am and may actually come up with a plausible explanation or possibility that would then correlate more closely with what Meier said. And I don't say that because we "have to make Billy right" about everything.
Rather than the technological angle, or the blind belief one, I was centered more on not only my conviction that Meier doesn't lie, nor that this was some matter of "concealment" but also on my own personal experience of him explaining the matter of the Creational impulses.
Further, my point regarding the PoZ is that if one kind of a conspiracy is viewed as plausible and accepted by Dyson, based on Meier's immediate, clear, reaffirmed, unambiguous statements regarding the true source of the hoax, perhaps Dyson can "take the other side of the argument" and make an equally intellectually valid argument for Meier's position.
Should that be the case then the question would be why he would seem to prefer the Zionist conspiracy position over the Russian one. In other words, is there something that he can learn about his own thinking and predilections for certain conspiracies and perhaps even for so much seeming attention on conspiracies themselves? |
Christian
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 10:09 am: |
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Hi Dyson
"For clever people with a scientific background it is not a problem to evoke all kinds of effects in plants and on the ground with different kinds of chemicals and radiation devices etc."
That's just my opinion. In light of other "phenomena", like cattle mutilation or chemtrails, etc., not a far-fetched opinion or view. Since I don't personally research cropcircles on/at the locations (my interest is very low), I leave this issue to those who draw their own conclusions etc.
Btw: I don't have access to http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_09_2_levengood.pdf (I don't want to register). |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1179
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 05:44 pm: |
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Hi all,
Dear Sheila, I'm sorry. I don't understand what you are asking me. ("Hi Dyson, before your crop circles appeared was there any mutilations?") What do you mean by "my" crop circles? The Disclosure Project witnesses' May 2001 appeals (to Congress for open hearings) about their role in cattle mutilations, etc., continue to fall on deaf ears. (Please see below reference to Congressman Findley's book.)
Dear Michael, if you go back to >> The Mission » The Pleiadians/Plejarens and the Federation » Miscellaneous » Archive through March 19, 2010 and carefully read what I wrote, and follow the pertinent the links I provided for you, I'm sure you will find the answers to the questions you keep putting to me. I think your remark, "...as far as a quick glance revealed to me..." may be the one to focus upon. And my totally ignored, tiresomely repetitive requests for people to read "They Dare to Speak Out" also sheds bright light on why people might believe that the Russians are the problem as opposed to the Zionists.
From http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/11172.html#POST49621
"And for everybody here unhappy with the difficulties associated with USAmerican political/social reform and how it should best be approached, you will remain in the darkness of freely-chosen misfortune (ignorance) if you don't familiarise yourself with the contents and themes of U.S. Congressman Paul Findley's courageous book about who REALLY sits firmly in USAmerica's driver's seat. I think that it is one of the most important books that there is at this moment in history and is also just about the most shocking and unbelievable book I've ever read (and I don't state that lightly) although my research forces me to accept that it is a true account of a grim, factual situation.
They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby - by Congressman Paul Findley
http://www.amazon.com/They-Dare-Speak-Out-Institutions/dp/155652482X
Significantly, although I've now made numerous recent attempts here to shine a spotlight on this very disturbing truth, those attempts have resulted in not one single solitary forum comment in reply. Why is that?"
Dear Christian, I'm sorry the URL I provided was not a public one. My mistake. But this one (of several) scientific, peer-reviewed papers is widely publicly available elsewhere, if you are at all interested in reading the corrections of your erroneous assumption ("For clever people with a scientific background it is not a problem to evoke all kinds of effects in plants and on the ground with different kinds of chemicals and radiation devices etc."). Simply Google "Semi-Molten Meteoric Iron Associated with a Crop Formation". Even a layperson should understand that terrestrial science not only cannot melt iron and glass onto living plants without harming them, (among many, many, many, many other things) but your suggestion that creating polyembrionic wheat is "not a problem" is also certainly not consistent with commercial (money-making) agricultural reality. Similarly, graphic artists accept "Crop Circles" as THE pre-eminent leaders in their field (no pun intended).
Art is art. It can't be hoaxed or faked.
Neither can mathematics.
It's impossible to (logically) explain how the Military-Industrial complex has access to abstruse hypotheses of Euclidian geometry which were never described by Euclid (superseded by differential equations) of which the terrestrial mathematical community remains unaware. Without doing one's own research, nothing I can say or do can help. As you know, I'm having great difficulty now providing information here about what Billy is saying about how to deal with these matters (of how proof must be achieved and the dangers of belief and the need for personal research, etc.), now that BEAM's own (translated) words are being silently and repeatedly withheld from this list. Can you at least just edit out the objectionable lines and leave in what you can of Billy's? Please?
In closing, Christian, are you now suggesting that "chemtrails" are not imaginary? ("In light of other "phenomena", like cattle mutilation or chemtrails, etc., not a far-fetched opinion or view.")
Thanks,
Dyson |
Techieatwork
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 09:45 pm: |
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Hi Dyson:
"Significantly, although I've now made numerous recent attempts here to shine a spotlight on this very disturbing truth, those attempts have resulted in not one single solitary forum comment in reply. Why is that?"
My personal reason: because some topics you touch are incendiary, dangerous topics and most people prefer not to make any comments, out of fear mostly. Fear of what you may ask? Well, fear of persecution, fear of being targeted, and the family or close group of relatives harmed in any way.
Is it the right thing to do? ..to remain silent in light of those many truths that you enlighten us about, on what is going on in our planet right now?
Maybe yes, maybe it is the right thing to do, considering the above, and considering we are without power to make any changes.
Should I have the power to do something about it, I would have done it ages ago, without making any comments anywhere, without creating evidence pointing back at me.
We are unarmed, defenseless, we can only argue here in forums like these, what else can you do apart from screaming under water?
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Phenix
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 02:25 am: |
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Peace in wisdom be with you,
Dyson, by extension Techieatwork-Carlos:
"Significantly, although I've now made numerous recent attempts here to shine a spotlight on this very disturbing truth, those attempts have resulted in not one single solitary forum comment in reply. Why is that?"
I personally did not react, solely because i am not interested in such matters.
Salome. |
Elreyjr
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 04:08 am: |
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Greetings,
How about joining the Peace Meditation regularly?
How about learning and acting/living the Spirit Teaching?
How about self-responsibility?
How about asking Dyson what is it that he recommend what the forum members can/should do which he failed to/can not do despite him knowing and being privy to all his materials?
Jun
My will be done |
Christian
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 11:40 am: |
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Hi Dyson
Thank you for reminding me about the book (link). I just read through the critics at Amazon, and I'm not surprised at all about the information. Anyone with eyes to see and a half-way functioning brain must have become aware that - regarding the USA-Israel connection - there must be strong lobbying behind the scenes in favour of Israel. In a way it is understandable that US American Jewish citizens are supporting Israel. And since many people of Jewish faith/origin are in high positions in high offices, in the financial world etc., it is obvious (not only to me) that they are working for Israel's interests etc. This does happen openly and behind the scenes.
With that said I also want to state that I'm absolutely against the shameful, criminal and degenerative politics and machinations in the Middle East of the many factions that are involved and are hampering every effort to bring about peace.
Of course there are also strategic objectives which are playing important roles regarding the U.S.'s servile role towards Israel.
Well, there are other "shady" political "games" going on, like e.g. regarding Saudi Arabia etc.
I could go on and on.
But I got away from the subject "cropcircles".
Perhaps I was a bit naive about my remark about the people with a scientific background. I will now wait until that moment in the future when the originators of the cropcircles will step forward and tell us the reasons behind their endeavors and the ways they performed their art.
Btw: I don't have the time to read that book. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 261
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 11:09 am: |
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"Significantly, although I've now made numerous recent attempts here to shine a spotlight on this very disturbing truth, those attempts have resulted in not one single solitary forum comment in reply. Why is that?""
Tightly held beliefs. And an unwillingness to actually dig into recorded history when they conflict with the threatened worldview.
Love is always the way
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 02:01 pm: |
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I think there's an apples and oranges discussion going on here regarding Israel, the PoZ, etc. We know from the Talmud Jmmanuel how strongly Jmmanuel spoke out against his present day Jews/Hebrews/Israelites, as well as how he prophesied what would become of them/their descendants in the distant future, i.e. the times of today and tomorrow. So it isn't that the machinations and evils are not acknowledged and understood as such.
If you read this http://theyfly.com/news2005/august06/august06.htm#israel from 2006 you'll see that I was trying to put together warnings from the contacts that further emphasized what cause and effect would unfailingly deliver, should Israel and its peoples not change these long established patterns and behaviors.
I think we all...get it. But the purpose of my article, and those by others, is to try to awaken rather than just repetitively bemoan, blame and/or condemn. While the book Dyson is referring to presents an unique, first hand, in depth perspective detailing how deep the injustice, outrages, etc. are, again, that isn't the point when it comes to the questions about the PoZ and Meier's supposedly "lying" about it.
Just for clarity's sake, is it that Dyson believes that Meier is wrong in this case, i.e. that he doesn't know that the PoZ is indeed a product of the Zionists, or does he still believe he's "lying", i.e. that he knows it and is "protecting" us (or somebody) from the truth...for reasons that Meier has unequivocally said don't exist?
I am pushing this issue because we seem to have not quite settled it. And just what will it take to settle it? Instead of just presenting another quote to seemingly imply that we're not looking hard enough for the hidden meaning/truth that Dyson has seemingly found, I would ask him for a plain answer: do you believe that Meier doesn't know the "truth" about the PoZ, or that you still think he is "lying"?
Somewhere in the material, and perhaps Dyson and Vivienne may have been the translators of it and know what I'm referring to, there is something about how in the future people will mistakenly believe that Israel/Zionism is the powerful force for world domination, etc. when in truth it won't be but that it will be America and perhaps some other powerful ones instead. Should I be correct in remembering that this exists, it would seem to me that, as I mentioned previously, the outcome for Israel is quite gloomy unless a significant percentage of its population wakes up. Taking all of this into account, the reality is that it's far less important who authored the PoZ than what Jmmanuel foretold millennia ago and how Israel has stubbornly stuck to a dead end script.
And I also think it's quite obvious that since Meier let nothing stand in the way of the publication of the TJ, with all of its negative comments about, and implications for, Israel, there's isn't even a whisper of a chance that he "lied" about the authorship of the PoZ, a document that he had nothing to do with...for any reasons. |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1182
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 01:57 pm: |
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Dear Carlos, You write, "...we are without power to make any changes." Is there anyone here who understands the key concepts of Billy's mission who would care to address this statement, please? (Sorry. I'm going out today, and can't spare the time just now.)
Dear Jun, I very strongly suggest that you follow first the advice I gave to our friend Hunter just recently, and then your heart - after understanding the above, of course. Sorry I can't say more. Prison still threatens us.
Dear Christian, the makers of the real crop circles (as opposed to the makers of the things which look like real crop circles from a distance) are every bit as unwilling to step forward as are Semjase, Quetzal, Ptaah and their Plejaren Federation colleges, and for preciecly the same reasons, of course. But, also for the same reasons, they have provided a nice drawing. Please google "Crabwood". (Then "Chilbolton".) Although not part of the Federation, "they" also obviously have similarly strict (logical) protocols.
Any chance of responding to this following section of my above post please, Christian?
(Comment Deleted, because of wrong assumptions on moderatos decisions and actions)
Similarly, could you please respond to this?
"In closing, Christian, are you now suggesting that "chemtrails" are not imaginary? ("In light of other "phenomena", like cattle mutilation or chemtrails, etc., not a far-fetched opinion or view.")"
Thanks very much for your time, Christian. I know how busy you must be, and thank you also for your words of truth, " ... regarding the U.S.'s servile* role towards Israel."
Thanks,
Dyson
*servile 1. of or pertaining to a slave* 2. submissive or slavish
*slave (plural slaves)
1. A person who is the property of another person and whose labor and also whose life often is subject to the owner's volition. 2. A person who is legally obliged by prior contract (oral or written) to work for another, with contractually limited rights to bargain; an indentured servant.
3. A person who is forced against his/her will to perform, for another person or other persons, sexual acts or other personal services on a regular or continuing basis. (Wiki)
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1184
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:34 pm: |
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Dear Michael,
You write, "Just for clarity's sake, is it that Dyson believes that Meier is wrong in this case, i.e. that he doesn't know that the PoZ is indeed a product of the Zionists, or does he still believe he's "lying", i.e. that he knows it and is "protecting" us (or somebody) from the truth...for reasons that Meier has unequivocally said don't exist?"
No and no. (And belief has nothing to do with it.)
Here's a little rhyme to help you remember my understanding of the situation:
Billy Meier ain't no liar.
He know what's true much more than you.
:-)
Cheers!
Dyson
P.S. The book I mentioned is not about Israel. It's about the USA. Did you read it before you commented upon it? |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 09:27 pm: |
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Hi Dyson,
Well I think that Billy knows what's true more than a whole bunch of us all tied together.
So I thought I exhausted the possibilities regarding my understanding of your position regarding the two areas in which it appears that you still disagree with what he said. I think that I would take your rhyme to mean that he's "concealing" the truth, despite his clear statement to the contrary.
I thought of a couple of other things that weigh against that, in my opinion. I think about the moon landing hoax info that Meier had to be dissuaded to keep quiet about by being warned of the military option that could be used against him and FIGU.
Then I thought about TWA flight 800 and how he inquired about it and Ptaah took two occasions to bring him the info, with the encouragement of the High Council to publicize the ugly truth.
Then there's the TJ, as I mentioned. And there's so much in the Contact Notes where he's quite openly calling out various leaders, countries, etc.
So I'm not buying concealment about the stupid PoZ, which he is not alone in condemning as a deliberate falsification. Do you have something *solid to back up your contention that he is somehow fudging here, for lack of a better word?
As for the book, I read several pages in and skimmed around to get a sense of it. Hardly in depth or complete but I knew I wasn't going to want to sit down and read it all. It's a priority thing for me. It reminds me that I got a rather sudden, shocking education that filled in a lot of blanks when I learned of the extent of U.S. aggression, etc., as I note in this article:
http://theyfly.com/news2005/aug05/aug05.htm#war
Okay, gimme your best shot on the burning questions *here!
Your pal,
Mad Dog Mike! |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 01:05 am: |
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The gulf tragedy, another inside job?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/goldman-sachs-reveals-it_b_558774.html
"NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) - In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.
The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.
"One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"
The news about Goldman's bet against the Gulf comes on the heels of embarrassing revelations that the firm had taken a short position on Lindsay Lohan's acting career."
Just disgusting.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 433
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 05:43 am: |
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Dear Carlos, Carlos, Carlos .. !
That guy (Borowitz) is a comic satirist.
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 05:08 pm: |
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I think it is unfortunate that there are so many charlatans/frauds/deceivers etc. who claim to channel "Pleiadeans" and other E.Ts, or have telepathic contact with them. I did a bit of youtube browsing and the sheer multitude of false new age stuff on there is ridiculous.
If someone were to actually search for the truth he/she would have to go through a lot of cob webs, which I'd say would be a turn-off for the average superficial person (or maybe they instead get caught in the cob webs!).
Hence, I think the majority of persons who discover the truth are the ones who seriously, genuinely searched and honestly used their intellect... or maybe just got lucky!
Reece Stiller
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Hunter
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 11:07 am: |
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What Are U.S. Troops Doing Overseas…
…if they are not defending our freedoms? Well, listen to a soldier who has been overseas who commented on my mention of the quintessential defender of the military:
I just read your recent blog post on LRC and wanted to let you know that as a current member of the U.S. military who has been deployed 5 times to the Middle East, we ARE NOT fighting to defend America’s freedom—we are murdering innocent people and those just fighting to protect their family and livelihoods. My enlistment is up in just over a month and I cannot wait to get out there and be more vocal against this murderous evil empire. I hope that my being a veteran will help give me some credibility. Not all of us are brainwashed, willing murderers for the state, but the military does its best to make sure most of us are. I see right through it all and I commend you, all the contributors to LRC, and the libertarian community as being the only principled anti-(aggressive)war advocates left in this country.
Blog with Article Link Here:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/57072.html
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 07:40 pm: |
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Regarding the 'Protocols of Zion' and a number of other docs that either outline or refer to a similar plan by the same group (such as the Communist Manifesto, the Harold Rosenthal interview, the multiple other near-analogues of the 'PoZ', and on, and on), which have presented themselves at different points of (mostly European) history:
It would be really nice to put aside the emotional tones surrounding supposed 'antisemitism', to be able discern objectivity from bigotry. As long as there are people who are more concerned with furthering their own racial, cultural, religious causes, there will be people who don't care about objectivity, and these people will push the arguments towards bigotry as much as they can. They are not concerned with a fair conversation revealing some sense of truth.
Were FIGU to objectively use reason to find center with the whole 'PoZ', etc., issue, then it would fill a much needed role, as well as becoming an instant number one target by people on both sides of the issue who don't want a reasoned perspective to present itself. But ideveloping a sense of center on this issue that is based in reason, this would be a worthy endeavor none the less.
Love is always the way
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 1190
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 08:11 pm: |
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Dear Sitkaa,
You have very eloquently identified the problem.
It is this axiomatic need, that debate be "based in reason", which is so lacking.
Any reasonable debate about this nauseating document can only proceed from the standpoint of it (naturally) being carefully and thoroughly READ and adequately understood in it's broad sociopolitical and historical context.
As I've previously mentioned, Billy's brilliant stance is the best way to safely engender debate and exposure.
Salome,
Dyson |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:54 am: |
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Dear Dyson & Michael, in Benjamin's latest translation, Billy admits to withholding the truth:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=386805075&blogId=533853012
(Thanks Benjamin!)
"How the hell would you know what my line looks like, it's imaginary." - my Dad, after being told by the police to walk a straight line.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 09:43 am: |
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I don't think this applies to the discussion at hand but it should be thought about for everyone who poses a question to him and then gets back seemingly evasive or "disappointing" answers.
Regarding the issue I've been pressing, Meier has made his answers unambiguously clear, agree with them or not. In the transcript you refer to, he speaks about not telling people more than they are ready for, or crafting answers appropriate to not well formed, thought out or complete questions, etc.
There's a huge difference. If we can't understand and accept when he, or anyone else, makes direct, clear statements and then further clarifies and reinforces them, we have difficulties with perception and comprehension, or are holding onto our own interpretations despite the answer. Again, that isn't to say that the answer is correct but that it is the truthful answer from the person who was asked the question, and/or from whom the clarification was sought. |
Christian
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 03:05 pm: |
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Hi Dyson, I must admit that I'm slowly but surely approaching an "ad nauseam" state of mind regarding your repeated attempts to convey the appearance that Billy is lying when referring to the PoZ. I think that after so many repeated clear statements about the status of that "work" it should have become clear that Billy is not lying. But obviously you want to keep to your view or belief that the PoZ are a "true" book and a fundamental work to uncover the machinations of "The Zionists". Of course you are free to stick to your view. As for me, I have not been there when the chief of the Russian Secret Service in Paris (Pjotr Ratschkowski) wrote the PoZ in 1897/98.
(http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/bulletin/2000/nr-28/weisen-von-zion)
I take Billy's word for it, and also his clear statement, that by calling the PoZ a fraudulent etc. work, he doesn't want to protect FIGU or anybody else. When reading the Contact Notes he made clear again and again that the Israeli war-mongerers (not the peace-loving part of the Israeli population) are a constant threat to world peace, just as it is the case with the USA and other regimes in the Middle East and elsewhere. And of course there are not only the Israeli governments, the orthodox fanatics and other capital criminals (like Sharon and Begin etc.), but also Palestinian terrorists and other Arabic/Islam groups etc. etc.
Billy's explanations of witholding the truth have nothing to do with lying. Just as responsible parents don't teach their 3-year old child to use a gun and to kill, Billy will not publish information that will produce more bad than good. This also applies to the spiritual teachings. It is unwise to feed a person with more knowledge than he/she can swallow. There were many persons who could not "digest" knowledge they received from Billy and finally got caught in delusions.
Thank you for the information about "servile". I think I should have used the term "submissive". Even if the actions that are happening "behind the curtains" are not visible to me, I get the impression that the USA appear "submissive" and are "extremely tolerant" in view of the Israeli government's behaviour.
In closing I also want to publicly state that my co-moderators have repeatedly withheld postings from you. I agree with them. Of course we are not "banning Billy or his words from the Forum", but we are "a little bit" fed up with your continuous hiding (at least this appears to be so) behind your quotations of Billy's texts. Please utter your own plain meaning. Stop from giving/provoking the impression that you "know" that Billy is concealing the truth or that he is fully of your opinion but has his reasons to hide it. In other words: Don't misuse Billy's words as grist to your mill.
As to your "habit" of referring to books to support your claims or lines of thought: What's written down in black and white isn't necessarily true.
As for reading books, I agree with Michael Horn: It's a priority thing. It's not laziness (for me).
And to your question regarding chemtrails: What I wanted to convey was the message that the so-called chemtrails as well as cattle mutilations and other phenomena have other origins/causes than the many ET-oriented schizophrenics and the conspiracy bums would like them to be.
Thank you for pointing me to the "Crabwood/Chilbolton" crop figures. An interesting work of art. I would like to talk with the originators. Creative, clever and skillful guys!
(Now it's midnight here in Switzerland, I have to go to bed.)
Regards,
Christian |
Matt
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 04-2006
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Hi Marksmanr,
I share your opinion on that present unfortunate matter.
"Hence, I think the majority of persons who discover the truth are the ones who seriously, genuinely searched and honestly used their intellect... or maybe just got lucky!"
I wondered the same thing about some people being here out of luck, myself included too perhaps. But I also heard some people say that the opposite of that is true. So, I don't know. |
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