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    Edward Member Post Number: 1996 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Derrick..... It should be: Summarized....sorry. Edward. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Edward, I hope this is more acceptable...salome Belief (faith) are not a requirement of the creation. Belief (faith) are also not a requirement of the fragment of creation (the human spirit.) To believe in yourself is a contradiction to the creative principals and recommendations of the creation. I have often been asked if I believe in "myself" I reply with, No. Because the creative principals are founded on truth and can be exactly explained,tested,and completely understood without faith and belief as a factor. Faith and belief have no solid foundation in which one can build upon,use or explain with clarity and true cognition. Knowledge is the sword that cleaves through belief and faith. truth is the fire that conquers ignorance. Faith and belief only requires one to blindly accept things in which they cannot intellectually grasp or understand. " test everything exactly and trust that which is good". "Everything is made known and is taught by the spirit teachings" Belief (faith) is not a requirement of the creation nor the human spirit.(fragment of the creation. Belief is not a requirement of the human spirit. Only through love,knowledge of wisdom,truth,peace,self compassion,patience,diligence enthusiasm,and self discovery can we inwardly achieve a more advanced state of being. To say "I believe in myself" is not acknowledgement of the creative force but subservience to the intangible that is nothing more than desperation for the purpose in life. Knowing that we are all the determining factors in our lives, we are able to learn and grow with true cognition and are able to apply the spiritual principals taught in the spirit teachings. Better? | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2011 |
To FIGU, I know that I can write this better. I apologize for being a little vague. I'll work on this more thoroughly. Though...I would also like to hear any input available on the subject of "believing in yourself". I'm still formulating my thinking on this subject. Peace in wisdom. Derrick | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 527 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Derrick, Belief may not be confused with self confidence. In fact people who lack in self confidence often deviate from self-responsibility and are the ones who often turn to "belief". When it is said that "belief" and "faith" are bad - it means trusting something or someone without any basis of reason, logic or fact and which cannot and could not be proven by any mean(s). Our religions are thus belief systems, because they contain concepts that cannot be proved by logic or fact, not now, neither in the future. Saalome. Suv | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi smukhuti,You said that very simply and right to the point.I have noticed even in my own past that When people start "believing" they stop thinking. thats when reason and logic go out the window.  Thanks for the feedback Derrick salome | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi everyone! I wonder...is semjase's husband now an earth human? and is he aware of the spirit teachings? It was said that he was atomized in the Sol. system. Wouldn't this mean that he is now commited to this earth for many lifetimes ahead? Is there more information on this? I have been wondering about this for some time. I can't seem to find more information on this except for a small segment on youtube. Salome Derrick | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 528 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hi Derrick, Those are false claims. Where did you get that info? Refer: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/7634.html#POST30613. Saalome. Suv | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi smukhuti, This exerpt is on my space and also steelmark llc. Is this correct? I would like to know the truth about this. Read last paragraph. I spaced it for you. Derrick Salome Semjase is 344 years old, about 1.7 meters (5.5 ft.) tall and is a slender, young, pretty woman with fair skin, sparkling blue eyes and light-blond hair. Her very long and somewhat forward-placed earlobes form a special distinguishing feature. This is the only anatomical difference compared to our women here on earth. Due to her exceptional knowledge, which far exceeds the average of her home population, she has assumed the rank of half-Jschrjsch, which means a half-queen of wisdom or a half-goddess, as they were called earlier on earth (and which can be read about, for example, in Greek legends). Having occupied herself with various matters on our planet years before taking up contact with Billy Meier on January 28, 1975, she is by far the best-oriented extraterrestrial concerning our situation on earth. During the period from February of 1965 until June of 1973, she stayed in the DAL-universe with Asket's people. After her return from the DAL-universe to Erra, she came to earth in July of 1973 and continued to carry out the task she had performed here earlier in a hidden station. The First Contact with Billy occurred on January 28, 1975. Of all the earth languages, she only mastered German and learned no others. In November of 1984, Semjase finally had to leave the earth for health reasons. Her field of work was exclusively restricted to the European area. She had no authorization whatsoever to become involved in any matters of, or establish contact with, any Pleiadian work groups on earth outside of Europe (neither in America nor Asia) Unfortunately, on December 15, 1977, she suffered a life-threatening accident in the Semjase Silver Star Center in Hinterschmidrüti and had to be taken to her home planet of Erra immediately for medical treatment and rehabilitation. In May of 1978, she returned to earth and resumed her contacts with Billy until March 26, 1981. From March of 1981 until the end of January 1984, she was again absent because there were other duties she had to fulfill. On February 3, 1984, the very last contact took place between Semjase and Billy. As an after-effect of her accident on December 15, 1977, she suffered a cerebral collapse in the beginning of November 1984 and was transported again as quickly as possible to the DAL-universe where she was healed by the help of Asket and her friends, the Sonaer. Her father, Ptaah, explained that the complete regeneration of her brain and all psi-powers, abilities and memories lost during her collapse would presumably take about seventy years. During this period, Semjase will spend most of her time in the DAL-universe, and it should be noted here that it is absolutely impossible for Semjase to communicate by mechanical or telepathic means with anyone here in our universe. (The only way one could communicate would be to travel to the DAL-universe oneself.)  On a personal note, Semjase was married but tragically lost her husband after she had been wed for only seven years. Her spouse had participated in a research expedition in a foreign galaxy. At that time, approximately 200 years ago, they did not know the hyperspace technology yet. Of the two research ships dispatched, only one returned home after eleven years, whereas the other with her husband aboard suffered control damage and crashed into a sun. Her marriage was without children. | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 529 Registered: 06-2009 |
Sun (as in "...crashed into a sun...") does not mean our Sun. It implies a Sun in the "distant galaxy". Saalome. Suv | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Smukhuti, On youtube it reads this: Over 200 years ago in the pleiades a husband left his wife to go on a mission to a new "SOL"- system but he never returned for his ship went astray and was caught in the orbit of a star and was atomized by fire. I assumed that since our sun is named "SOL" that it happened in the region of earth that orbits around our sun. (SOL) Perhaps the person that posted that exerpt "Orionifo" should have said "SOLAR SYSTEM" instead of abreviating it. I know this seems minute but it made "me" think... To avoid further confusion on this I would like to see that corrected. Regards Derrick Salome | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Derrick, In Smukhuti's post #528, his question merits some thought. I would suggest searching through the forum and find out where to begin and proceed with approved sources. This will help you, as it did me, to know for a certainty that you are reading and learning from actual approved sources. I mean this, in your general quest to search, analyze and study the material. In this way, we can make accurate and educated cognition and thereby not waste our time. Welcome to the forum. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Eddie, Thanks for the recommendations. I will surely be extremely careful from now on...it's disturbing how quickly stories,words and meanings are misconstrued from the "original" source. This is a classic example. I agree, I don't want to waist my time nor anyone else's with misleading information. In regards to smukhuti's question on post #528, As far as I understand at this time, is that the only approved sources that I can trust and depend upon are Billy's books,Future of mankind and FIGU.As well as youtube contact notes with Billy's picture and approval. It would be cool to have a reliable "list" of accurate sources...like a star list. Lol  where all the good stuff is. Have a great day all. Salome Derrick | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Derrick, I have been a member of this forum and studying the Teachings only a short period longer than yourself I presume. Knowing what I know and based on my experiences thus far my friend, I would suggest you seek Scott's and Robyn's (moderators) council and advise on your source materials for studies and research. They pointed me in the right (correct) direction and I have not been disappointed Glad to make your acquaintance and welcome my friend. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2000 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Derrick... Yes, excellently said. Concerning: When people start "believing" they stop thinking. YES, very TRUE! Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2001 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Derrick.... Yes, I would agree with Suv. Semjase's husband's Spirit-form will just Gravitate to the nearest Compatible planet, which suits it's configuration, if you will; and reincarnate, there. Edward. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Eddieamartin, I once rented a video in the mid 80's called pleiadian Beamship. I enjoyed the video very much. I never saw anymore material about Billy and the pleiadian's (Plejaren)after that. On March 29,2010 (my 42nd birthday) I had a kind of a mental collapse. As strange as it may seem, I was very angry about the religious enslavement of the people of earth including myself. I always had a feeling that the truth could be provided by extraterrestrials. I couldn't understand why "They" wouldn't do something more than just fly around in secrecy. I literally shouted out with my voice saying, "Give me the truth"! (with many swear words) I was very broken inside. I had previously purchased my first computer. I wasn't very savvy but after I calmed down I remembered Billy Meier and the Beamship video... so I started searching on youtube for Billy Meier. To my "amazement" there was loads of information. For two weeks straight I listened to every youtube segment that I could find. That first night on my birthday I cried and cried and was overwhelmed with reverence and gratitude that I finally found the truth. Hence "ask and you shall receive". For several weeks as my belief systems were falling away from me I went through periods of delusional thinking. I felt my psyche being effected and my personality was completely gone. As weeks went by, slowly my personality began to resurface and I felt balanced. I posted on figu under a different user name (Jason) and asked about the effects on the human psyche after contact with Et's. I had an experience driving my truck on april 2, 2010 It was so powerful that I thought I had some kind of a contact maybe an impulse contact of some kind. I felt so connected with everything and I realized the meaning of peace and the magnitude of the mission. I purchased the Talmude Jmmanuel and printed out the goblet of truth with which used all of my ink. I'm still learning to be better on the computer. Thank you very much for advising me to seek council with scott and robyn. Where do I start? Salome Derrick | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hey Derrick, Enjoyed your post #22. I think many of us, upon learning of the Billy Meier material sense or attribute an intuition or an inner sense, to be possibly an impulse message from the Plejarens; perhaps due to their meditation efforts? Perhaps it's something our spirit-form is aware of (?)....perhaps we ourselves (our spirit-form) are the origin of these impulses? More importantly, it is the journey with which we embark upon from here on forward correct? Which is why, I personally, would encourage everyone to make certain that the source material is one from Billy. I've found, and some members have posted, material perpetrated to be from or about Billy Meier and his Teachings, on the internet. So be safe and confirm with the moderators and members here. Regarding the TRUTH: 1. First use the 'search' engine of the forum to see if an answer has been posted; when not found, do the following. 2. We can simply post our request or questions to Scott or Robyn in the appropriate forum heading. 3. We will find that other members will have excellent resources as well. 4. We can also simply post it as a general request or open question for everyone; again, in the appropriate forum heading. 5. One thing that I had begun to do, on the forum, is look under the specific heading that I wanted to learn about and I just started looking through the archives, from the beginning, until I find something relevant to my interests. I then copy-paste onto a Word document for later studies. I found the following link to be a good source too. You likely have this one of course. http://us.figu.org/portal/SpiritualTeaching/IntroductiontotheSpiritualTeaching/tabid/91/Default.aspx = = = = = = = In regards to YouTube: Many scientists and researchers have been unearthing and discovering some interesting facts about many aspects of our physiology and world around us. You may have run into them or find them of interest. The following link deals with how we program beliefs and belief systems into our neural net in our brains. Good to consider, should we pursue sharing Billy's material with religious relatives and friends. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BkI8LD24y0 Correlate the above with the following: http://ca.figu.org/FIGU_Bulletins.html **Click on : FIGU-Bulletin no.62 - "Greed devours the Brain" by Mariann Uehlinger Mondria. In addition: Robyn (moderator) turned me onto the second link titled: "FIGU-Bulletin no 69 - "Thoughts about the sentence 73 ...." by Mariann Uelinger Mondria The following link may be of interest due to how certain principles of the Teachings are demonstrated and brought to light. How our thoughts do get projected outward and do impact. 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWn4QF6dCwM&feature=related From the above YouTube links and the related documentary, science today is discovering what we are learning about in the Teachings and the material we have access to here. All very fascinating finds. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Borthwey Member Post Number: 222 Registered: 09-2007 |
Regarding faith and belief, One is required to trust in life, to believe in it… The opposite of that is fear, or nihilism. There‘s no life without belief. But beliefs must be grounded on realism. I thought this formulation the other day: If you believe in what you don’t know, you remain ignorant. But if you don’t believe in what you know, you remain ignorant as well. So, confidence/belief is needed for life, but it should be based on knowledge, not the other way around. | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Eddieamartin, Thank you for the info and links. you said ...Perhaps it's something our spirit-form is aware of (?)....perhaps we ourselves (our spirit-form) are the origin of these impulses. I have been contemplating these same questions since I had my experience. I really think that our "own" spirits are the orchestrators' that do tie in somehow to the plejarens meditations etc. In other words...we must all formulate a relationship with our spirit in order to ever communicate with higher intelligences. I don't think one could ever communicate with the plejarens without the proper prerequisites being met which has allready been extensively been explained by Billy. ( prerequisites of contact with the plejaren's) I have allready read "greed devours the brain but naturally I'm sure I will read it again. So...to inquire with the moderators how should I address them? To scott or robyn? Thanks again. Your a great help! Derrick Salome | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 132 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hey Derrick, Yes my friend, under the heading of what you seek information on, simply address Scott or Robyn or anyone else for that matter. You want to post your question under the specific heading so as to keep, what ever is learned from your post, organized, archived and logically accessible to everyone. Plus, we exercise consideration of the moderator's time and efforts. So, have you found out which one it is for sure? Let me know. Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hey Eddieamartin, Thanks again Have I found out which one it is for sure?...This question brings me much laughter. It is also a trick question so to speak. Could there be one without the other? I cannot answer that honestly at this time. I can tell you this...I've been seeing ufo's since the 80's. Most recent was dec 19th 2010 and I had a wittness with me. I do feel very connected though to the plejaren. I had a dream once...I was in a round craft flying through a valley of large mountains with snow caps. There was a woman with long light brown hair seemingly giving me some kind of a tour around what looked like the swiss alps. I never saw her face. The windows (viewing screen) that I looked through as we flew through this valley were the same shape as one of the plejaren's beamships. It was a great dream that I'll never forget. I still wonder who the woman was... Special thanks to our moderators for being patient and understanding during my learning proccess. I will surly respect their time.  Salome Derrick | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 133 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hey Derrick, Interesting dream. I think many people may find themselves with dreams such as yours; especially now. I too have seen ufo's. Myself, a friend and his family were out front of his house, not too long ago, the kids brought our attention to these round objects that were standing still and doing maneuvers. Afterward, as I'm reading the Contact Notes, turns out one of the core members, while on vacation with his parents, snapped a picture and this same object was caught. Ptaah told Billy it was a Druan ship. I sent a copy of the picture this member took to my friend. He said it was identical to the ones we saw (he was curious about where I got the picture). This is going to happen and has been happening for ages. Do you find it interesting that in earth's past, ufos shot up to the skys with fire and smoke for all to see and wonder? Even to wonder about what is on the other side of the blue sky that the phenomenon with smoke and fire disappeared to? What about our Plejaren BEAM ships wobbling for Billy's camera? HaHa, no my friend, not a trick question, but rather, an important one. Where do we get these impulses, intuitions and dreams from, that seem to be telling us something about what people realize upon the factual realization that there are e.t. visiting us. I take it you have gone through the Contact Notes? Salome, Eddie [7:-) | ||
Derrick Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hey Eddieamartin, I have studied every contact note available in english I believe. I have been writing down (by hand) some contact notes that are only in german translated to youtube. For example:"Faith belief and god" About your question "Where do we get these impulses, intuitions and dreams from, that seem to be telling us something about what people realize upon the factual realization that there are e.t. visiting us. This is a very good question! It's such a good question that to speculate, wouldn't give it enough justice as to the whole truth of the matter. If our spirits are a fragment of the whole of the creation, than we receive impulses directly from our spirit as well as from the creation. this should apply to et's as well as earth humans. I think yes...to differentiate humans and et's would only separate the level of the knowledge information and level of evolution coming through. What about akashik records? Do they only keep records of the past? Or,what ???? I can only speculate that we all get little tid bits of information and intelligence from impulses because if too much information floods our consciousness , our psyche would suffer as mine did. The beauty of it all is that we can ask these questions and eventually receive the answers from our own thinking processes. (our own spirit) This is the best I can do for now but I will continue to ponder the issue. Wow! what a great question! Try this one...Has anyone ever had a dream of being on another planet??? Is it even possible? It's been a great pleasure conversing with ya. Salome my friend, Derrick |
