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Earthling
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Post Number: 537
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 01:16 am: | 
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Mark, why do you say, 'slightly differently than what he witnessed"?
I would think that is not possible, since it was a trip into the future and not a prophetic vision/dream or look. |
Sitkaa
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Post Number: 466
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 03:26 am: |
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Once observed, the happenstance evolves.
Fur leben.
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 549
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 03:27 am: |
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As I understand it, cosmic and natural events are predictions. Also, each trip to the future is slightly different, because the future is not fixed. For example, a trip from now (2011 A.D.) to 2100 A.D. to a place may be different than a trip from year 2090 A.D. to 2100 A.D to the same place.
Sorry, I do not remember where I read it, so cannot provide any reference.
Saalome.
Suv
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Rarena
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Post Number: 669
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 06:34 am: |
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It is my understanding, the future is left undone, and incomplete depending upon free will, actions, etc. The past is done and cannot be undone. There are only mathematical probabilities which can be anticipated by advanced intelligences... most of which do not inhabit our earth for obvious reasons.
A prophecy may be changed via the human being's free will, while a prediction will indeed happen.
The future is malleable with many variables whereas the past is done, and remains unchanged. |
Memo00
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Post Number: 468
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 07:22 am: |
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Hello FIGU friends
the San Francisco earthquake will happen exactly as Billy saw it, nothing can be changed from it, not even the smallest rock or dust particle can be in a different place.
Salome |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 08:27 am: |
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Henoch Prophecies(1976)..there were 2 major earthquakes, 1995 Kobe earthquake and 2011 Tohoku earthquake...Which year was the above henoch prophecies info more related, to 1995 or 2011 ?..."Also the land with the cherry blossom becomes shaken, and the city at the fault becomes totally buried. "...IS it Kobe city(1995) or sendai city(2011) ?
"...and the city at the fault becomes totally buried. "..Is the 2nd part about the city at the fault, related to other event or refers to the same event in Japan?
All ideologies are idiotic, whether religious or political, for it is conceptual thinking, the conceptual word, which has so unfortunately divided man - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 551
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 09:30 pm: |
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"...and the city at the fault becomes totally buried." may be referring to San Francisco.
Refer: http://geology.com/articles/san-andreas-fault.shtml
Saalome.
Suv
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 631
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 11:22 pm: |
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I did read it , Smukhuti read it , but it seems that if it hasn't happened yet , then it cannot be changed because I have no idea whatsoever . |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 372
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 09:45 am: |
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Well Semjase specifically refers to San Francisco earleir, so there doesn't seem to be a doubt.
Also, did anyone else notice this:
"The time of the first destruction already is here,
in the southland of the ancient people of America.
In coming times this land is hit evilly hard..."
...and think that it may have been referring to Katrina? |
Bennyray37
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 01-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 06:52 am: |
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Based on what Michael Horn posted on his blog about the prophecy in Contact 115 possibly being fulfilled by the recent tsunami that hit Japan, here is what I think he is getting at:
The relevant portion of the prophecy:
"Also the land with the cherry blossom becomes shaken,
and the city at the fault becomes totally buried."
Land with the cherry blossom seems to be a way of designating all of Japan; thus, the first line of the prophecy could be interpreted as follows:
"Also Japan becomes shaken"
"City at the fault" seems to be connected with "the land with the cherry blossom," so I don't think it is referring to some other city in some other land. Thus, the "city at the fault" in the "land with the cherry blossom" becomes totally buried, according to the prophecy.
The city of Minami Sanriku, which was recently buried by the tsunami that hit Japan, could certainly be described as "the city at the fault," since it is a coastal city that lies right along the fault line, along with many other coastal cities, however, of Japan.
Thus, the second line of the prophecy could be interpreted as follows:
"and Minami Sanriku becomes totally buried."
http://dailyqi.com/?p=31312
Benjamin Stevens
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Memo00
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Post Number: 469
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 06:21 am: |
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Hello to all FIGU friends
my understanding is this: There exists infinite possibilities of how things can be in the future, but in the end only one thing can and will happen. Each one of us have free will and everything is changing all the time and still that doesn´t change the fact that things will happen in a certain way and not in another. (not that a magical and mysterious energy will "direct" things to a certain result, plain and simply cause and effect will do their "job", if we can´t so easily see the future it is because there are too many variables, but if you accept that the world is ruled by cause and effect then you must understand that there can only be one logical result).
If you have trouble accepting that something that still hasn´t happened will happen and you cannot do anything about it then look at the big picture, the entire universe is destined from the very beginning to "end" in a certain way ("the big crunch"), the whole mass of the universe and all living beings in it have a common an unavoidable destiny that will happen in a certain amount of time.
I think that Billy doesn´t explain too much about this time travel things simply because the majority of mankind are not capable of understanding it and it only causes confusion. For example: he has said one and another time that the past can´t be changed and still many persons continue to ask about it.
In the contact notes there are many "keys" to understand many things about time and space but it is up to each to one to try to understand what has been said there.
Prophecies can be changed because they are only probability calculations. Predictions don´t. What you see in a time travel to the future will happen exactly as you saw it. It may be hard to accept it but in the end the universe and life is as it is and not like you want it to be. The sky is blue, fire is hot, live your life, you are free and not a simply a puppet.
Salome |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 552
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:31 pm: |
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There is clear hint in contact 115 that "... and the city at the fault becomes totally buried" is San Francisco.
302. There is talk in this of the fact that San Francisco will be destroyed.
302. Es ist dabei die Rede davon, dass San Franzisco zerstört wird.
303. With the outbreak of the St. Helens volcano, the time becomes complete, in which the beginning of the end assumes its actual beginning.
303. Mit dem Ausbruch des St. Helens-Vulkans wird sich die Zeit runden, an dem der Anfang vom Ende seinen wirklichen Anfang nimmt.
304. About this, it stands word-for-word in the prophecy brought into verse form by you: ".. and the city at the fault becomes totally buried"
304. Darüber steht wörtlich in der von dir in Versform gebrachten Prophetie: ".. und die Stadt am Graben wird total verschüttet .."
Saalome.
Suv
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Edward
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Post Number: 2034
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:19 pm: |
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Hi Scott....
Yes, what you posted is correct. And as some have already explained: A
Prediction can NOT be changed! It is a Creational Cosmic Event; but, it was
once mentioned that ONLY...in Rare cases it can be averted! But, I think this
means in the sense of - Circumstantial - Scenarios. Which are permitted with
what every technology, etc., can be averted.
Say, a Comet/Astroid, can also be defined as a Natural Creational Cosmic
Event, which One CAN...Avert by Redirecting its path. When the Technology is
there, of course.
If a civilization which is still very young in existence and are not that
highly developed...with their technology, it would speak for itself, that the
event(astroid) would destroy their existence. That is just their Destiny.
[Which would fit in best with our NOW existing time frame....; but, we CAN
still do something about it...if our scientists come up with a proper solution
to Avert the scenario....]
Thus: Circumstantial properties...would play part. Thus, it can occur that a
Prediction CAN be Converted into a Prophesy. Again: RARE cases depending on
the Circumstances of the scenario.....
Edward. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 347
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 05:34 pm: |
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Hi Benjamin, or maybe the "totally buried" part hasn't happened yet?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Imamovic
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 01:09 am: |
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"and the city at the fault becomes totally buried" is referred to San Francisco as it is clearly stated by Semjase before she recited the verse written prophecy of Billy..
...from Contact report 115
"300. And these will first bring the scientists to the fact that the Andreas fault is in play.
301. At the same time, think of the prophecy that was given to you on the 2nd of February, 1976.
302. There is talk in this of the fact that San Francisco will be destroyed.
303. With the outbreak of the St. Helens volcano, the time becomes complete, in which the beginning of the end assumes its actual beginning.
304. About this, it stands word-for-word in the prophecy brought into verse form by you: “… and the city at the fault becomes totally buried…”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_115
by the way, can someone tell me to which country or region is the "lands with the boon of Earth-gold" referred to? Also "land of the lion sword"??
many thanks |
Memo00
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Post Number: 470
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 05:26 am: |
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Hello Imamovic
Maybe the "Land of the lion sword" is Sri Lanka but it could be also Iran as it has a long history of earthquakes and at some point in time their flag had a lion with a sword.
The "lands with the boon of Earth-gold" could be Africa and/or China as they are the greatest gold producers.
Salome |
Bennyray37
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:57 am: |
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Well, if it is the case that "the city at the fault" refers to San Francisco, then I have no idea what Michael Horn was trying to get at with his blog about Meier's prediction of the Japanese earthquake. If only the first line of "Also the land with the cherry blossom becomes shaken" refers to Japan and the next line does not, then any earthquake ever hitting Japan at any time could be said to be a fulfillment of that part of the prophecy, which wouldn't be very remarkable at all.
Benjamin Stevens
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Smukhuti
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Post Number: 553
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 10:11 am: |
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Lion sword was the emblem in the State flag of Iran. It is not used anymore.
What is Earth-Gold?
And "hope for peace" - is this literal, or some country is referred?
Saalome.
Suv
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Scott
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Post Number: 2115
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 11:34 am: |
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Hello,
Now I may be reading (contact 115) this incorrectly, but from what I can gather it appears that San Francisco should have experienced strong earthquakes around or a short period of time after the eruption of Mt Saint Helens. During the period between the eruption of Mt Saint Helens there were a few quakes leading up to the 1989 Loma Prieta Quake, but these quakes did not occur during the time of Mt. Helens. Does anyone else come to this same conclusion?
293. The seaquake arising around the time of Tito's death won't be very strong, so it won't move the human beings of the Earth.
294. But this quake will be a bad omen for the imminent outbreak of the St. Helens volcano, which stands in connection with the Andreas fault, which itself extends from the high north of western America until deep into the south of the country.
295. The scientists will first make no connection at all with the small seaquake to the volcanic eruption.
296. They will also suppose after the first time that the volcano will soon come to rest again.
297. But they will be mistaken in this because they won't be looking for a direct connection from it to the Andreas fault.
298. Already about ten days after the outbreak, however, some scientists will think about the events and recognize that the Andreas fault plays a significant role in these events.
299. At this time, it will, however, already be the case that in the area of San Francisco, severe earthquakes occur.
300. And these will first bring the scientists to the fact that the Andreas fault is in play.
301. At the same time, think of the prophecy that was given to you on the 2nd of February, 1976.
302. There is talk in this of the fact that San Francisco will be destroyed. |
Imamovic
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:06 pm: |
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Memo00 - I think it's not referred to China as the "land of the dragon" mentioned in the verse refers to China??
Scott - I thought the same, but when considering Billy's photo of destroyed San Francisco..which was analyzed in detail, Michael Horn said..they found a small clue..a modern car which wasn't build in that time in the 80's..so I came to the conclusion that a second eruption of St Helen most probably will take place in future..as it says;
"303. With the outbreak of the St. Helens volcano, the time becomes complete, in which the beginning of the end assumes its actual beginning."
but considering that the 115th contact was Date/time: Thursday, October 19, 1978, 6:04 PM
so before the 1980 eruption, it would be logically referred to it..so either another eruption will happen or the quake will occur with no "warning" from St Helen.. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2039
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 10:50 pm: |
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Hi Scott and Imamovic...
Welcome to the FIGU board, Imamovic.
The so-called - Modern Car - you mentioned could have been a prototype of
Concept Car built for that owner(?). Back then, in the 80's and even
70's..such Concept Cars were designed and built. That one in the image could
have been just one of a sort.
When the SF Earth Quake occurs, such type of vehicles will be present and on
our roads, was - Hinted -. The cars have NO Rear viewing Mirrors; and as I
explained in a previous posting of the CAMs installed to replace the outside
Mirrors.
It is quite Logical that St. Helen would be associated with the Fault, and
which will 'trigger' the rest of the even. This can still occur in the future
to come.
Edward. |
Memo00
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Post Number: 471
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 10:05 am: |
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Imamovic
Yes, the land of the Dragon must be China so the lands with the boon of Earth-gold must be South Africa.
Other countries in the prophecy must be Tunisia (the star in the half-moon), Greece (land of the gods) and Chile (South America)
Salome |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 554
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:51 pm: |
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"Land of the gods" could be Greece or India and "the star in the half-moon" could be Tunisia or Pakistan. "Lion sword" could be Iran or Sri Lanka.
"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool". - As You Like It
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