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Jorgerendon
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 09:11 pm: | 
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Hi Francisco,
Thats so awesome what your doing down there. Are you Colombian also? Im from medellin but right now, Im in the US. Is it okay if I sent you my email through these posts? I would like to talk more.
Mil Gracias por el saludo.
Peace and wisdom!
Jorge |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 09:34 pm: |
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Hi Figu member's,
My son's mother and I were getting in a heated debate about the difference between "The Truth" and one's personal truth. Well... she might not think that she was debating, but I have to admitt that I was. Anyway...I made a statement to her regarding false teachings brought by false teacher's and sects and the like and I expressed my feelings regarding the ramtha school that she has been involved in for some years as well as myself.
I tried to explain that
there is only "one universal truth" that exists for everyone and it seemed that it was a difficult thing to explain because I know that Truth can never be given to anyone without that person's "cognition" which means recognising "the" truth.
I was accused of being like all the rest of the religions forcing my views on other people and so on. Of course, I'm still human and I still make mistakes I'm still learning how to contain myself while I hear what I think is B.S.
I made a statement...I said..."If I had the power to ban all religions, I would ban them".
She then asked what I thought was a good question...she said,"If you could stop all war forever by banning free speach,Would you do it"?
Yes? or no? and why?
I know that this is not exactly figu related but I am posting this for her to see what kind of amazing things you guys will dig up.
Any feed back on this and links is much appreciated.
Derrick |
Villatlf
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 05:40 am: |
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Jorge,
I am Colombian living in Colombia. Please send me your e-mail, so we can have a conversation in Spanish, not in this forum.
Francisco |
Memo00
Member
Post Number: 465
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 10:54 am: |
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Hello Derrick
The truth is only one
Truth = Reality
The Creation is all that exists and there is nothing out of it, then, the truth is one. The truth is the Creation itself.
The "personal truth" can be a tiny piece of the actual truth (reality) or plain and simply imagination and fantasies (lies, half truths).
Billy has explained that the most important things in life are Freedom, Peace, Love and Harmony.
If you think about all of them individually you will realize that they are related with each other and that for example there cannot be true peace without freedom, and so on.
It is impossible to stop all wars "forever" by the use of force (banning free speech, religions, etc). They will disappear (wars) in a planet once humanity has achieved certain level of evolution as it is the case with Plejaren.
In short, if a lesson is not learned and by force you try to prevent persons from making mistakes (that they need to learn), then problems will arise in the future, which could make things worse. (because of more advanced technology)
Salome |
Mgrijalva
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 11:08 pm: |
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Hola Jorge y Francisco, I speak Spanish too. I am a new passive member (member since Aug 2010) and live in California.
Jorge, sorry about any errors you may find on the Spanish web site, the site is kept independently by a passive member on a volunteer basis. Please feel free to inform the web master of any errors.
Salome,
Maria
maria@grijalvaenterprises.com |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 665
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 10:56 am: |
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Hi Derrick,
Welcome to the club. The truth is harsh and people do not like to accept it. If they are sceptical that's a different story, but it takes sometimes too much energy to get them to understand and some... never understand.
We are a group that is together on this and each and every one of us understands how difficult it can be explaining what you are so passionate about and want to share.
Anything to stop war I would do. What happens from these interactions with those unknowlegeable about these esoteric subjects is you grow in wisdom. It is the experience that gives you wisdom which someday leads to power, not Gewält but.. power (forceable forcelessness) to create or allow to nuture using logic and reason. There will be those that tear at your patience with their lack of understanding and it is better to leave them behind rather than diminsh yourself in the process. They may never know in this lifetime.
Also, your son should be told only after a certain age when he can reason and congnate for himself making his idea more concrete. There is time... teaching by example will be the best way.
It may be better to back off a bit and let them take the knowledge you have at a much finer stream rather than a firehose... eh eh...
This information is not for everyone... some will get it some will not... either way it must be gleaned by themselves and not forced by someone else because that goes against the teaching. The truth will wait there for those who learn at a different rate. Little by little they will get it from the way you react unlike many of the general public: panicky, materialist, that act like fanatical animals in large groups.
My purpose here is to learn and to help others learn and you have my sincerest condolences to those who stand firm in their quest for truth and are intimidated or interrogated or blamed or what-ever because of their knowing. It is not a belief you understand... but a knowing which is only discovered by research, logic and knowledge by yourself. It is wise person who can learn from another... and that person has to go through a lot less ($#(!) to get there.
Salome Greetings in Peace and Wisdom. |
Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 460
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 11:54 am: |
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The control of 'free' speech is an interesting topic, very relevant to today's world, especially with the right-wing talk shows all agreeing with one another that the government needs to be defunded and America needs to step back about two centuries. They are so easily swayed by the very PTB that they like to rail against.
Were I king for a day, my own solution to this conundrum would be to regulate public speeches addressed to large audiences thusly: anyone who would use technology to reach out to large audiences should be regulated. It is not that they should be unable to argue, or voice opinions, are muck around and find dirt on this politician or that, but rather that they should be:
1. tested for their support of the community - their altruism and community support ideals should always be at the forefront of their discourse
2. they should be tested for above average intelligence - which would slowly raise the average level of argument by both the audience and by the people giving loud complaints, opinions, and potential solutions
3. they should be tested for greater than average understanding of the topics which they purport to discuss - again, to slowly raise the bar
As the bumper sticker says: 'Never argue with an idiot/fool - they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you around the brain with their experience.' I think it would be best to remove such people from the grand public stage. Of course, this system could be abused, but hopefully less so than our current system of 'free' speech.
Although right now this is only an interesting 'what-if?', I do think it relevant to the FIGU mission. I too would be interested in knowing how the Plejaren and/or Billy would weigh in on this.
Thanks
Fur leben.
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 343
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 08:13 am: |
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Hi Derrick, I would be willing to give up freedom of oral speech when we get to the point that we are all telepathically linked and no longer need it.
Remember that no one has the right to tell you how to think.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Sitkaa
Member
Post Number: 461
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 01:52 pm: |
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Additional depth to previous posting - abit of an explanation:
Tested with the results posted publicly. Who would want to listen to people without a good grasp of the issues?
As it is, so much public 'news' is puerile opinion building. It would be nice to listen a more thoughtful consideration of the issues facing our planet.
Fur leben.
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Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 147
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:00 am: |
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Hi guys. I am Colombian living in Australia. If you want, you can contact m= e also on: techieatwork@gmail.com
Carlos.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Jorgerendon
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 07:24 am: |
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Hi Francisco,
Here is my email so we can talk more... and any member from Colombian try to spread the word down there... Great people.
jorgeren@yahoo.com
peace and wisdom/ |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 626
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 10:20 pm: |
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te conosco , mosco ! |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2025
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 01:15 am: |
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Hi Derrick....
Yes, you have some excellent insights to your question, here.
Well, when it comes down to - Freedom Of Speech -, it should be implemented in
a more Subtle fashion, mind you....than, how...it is implemented by certain
individuals and politicians, etc...whom just want to 'stir a storm', so to
speak.
It is not WHAT you say....but...HOW you say it...?[As the saying goes...]
Some individuals just make Misusage of the Freedom Of Speech right, alas...
So, they Dictate it in their very aggressive fashion: take heed...the -
Aggression Gen -...is doing its work, here. So, they have alas...NO Control
over themselves whilst they speak, etc.
"Freedom Of Speech", should be implemented with: Common Sense, Logic and
Reason, no? [Plain old Creational Principle/Law; and all related.]
"Freedom Of Speech", should not be to Insult, Intimidate...or Backward, etc.,
any individuals, human being, or whatever...Creational Creature of Creation.
"Critique", should be based on - Constructive Logic -, and to Better One's
SELF; environment, etc. But, again, still within the above mentioned
framework.
WE should all...try and get Better...from/through our tongue of speech. To
Improve our existence...and not to Degrade and Degenerate, it. And generate
the needed: Understanding.
Mind you, that much Havoc is caused by Misunderstanding(/Ignorance), and
which should be Corrected to: Understanding....
Edward. |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 36
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2011 - 09:18 am: |
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thank you all,
Very good information indeed.
Sometimes it's what you "don't say" as well that creates a person to engage themselves and start to use their reason through their thinking.
Sometimes it feels as if I'm walking on egg shells around their ego's through a curtain amount of diplomacy. As Billy has said: "diplomacy leads to confusion".
to be truly honest with your delivery of information is a difficult task, but absolutly
nessisary
Salome
Derrick |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2032
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:37 pm: |
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Hi Derrick....
Yes, you have the idea....
Yes, most of us know, that Diplomacy is: ...gathering..after gathering...after
gathering, etc.; when 1-2 gatherings can generate a proper resolution/
solution, or whatever. And today's governments and other like-wise officials
need so-many-many-many gatherings, before they can come up with something; and perhaps even with NOTHING! Just Too Much - Lip Service - as Billy also once
mentioned; is my idea...as well. [Typical Cult Religion Diplomacy/Politics.]
Very pitifully....yes...
Edward. |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 02:04 am: |
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Hi Moderators,
I'm not sure exactly where I read this but Billy
wrote:
"Thoughts and feelings break through all boundaries of space and time and penetrate into the brain of anyone who is spoken to and perceptively perceives the call".
This is contradictive in regards to the idea that our thoughts are bound to this universe and time continuum only, and only travel the speed of light.
When I found these teachings on my birthday, (on 03/29/2010) I had a very powerful awakening.
It's too hard to explain in length but I felt...true peace,True love,real truth,and acknowledgement of the creation. All of these things were one with each other.
I felt a magnitude of other's in this place that wasn't a place. I realized a great mission and felt connected with other's also connected.
I felt strong impulses as if I was receiving frequencies (universal ones)and some kind of red light above me pulsating.
At the time I posted 7 questions under my middle name (Jason) question #4 read...
4.If love and spiritual wisdom transcend space and time, and there were individuals from other systems,(universes/planets)still connected to individual earth humans, through love,could they communicate? And has this happened?
I have done, and am still doing my home work and this question still tantalizes me.
I also understand that This is a delicate question that may have a complex answer and could be misinterpreted very easily to someone that is limited in their understanding.
I also understand that this experience was a connection with my spirit which includes everything and everyone.
I would love to hear some insights on this.
Salome
Derrick |
Bronzedesk
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 12:55 pm: |
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The french have a word for this occurrence Raison d'être !!! |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 561
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 08:45 pm: |
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Hi Derrick
It’s quite possible that the strong impulses you felt and described in your post, were from your own mature fluidal forces from a previous incarnation(s) where you were exposed to the teachings before. The thoughts and feelings associated with the teachings at that time resonated anew through your subconscious. This process is explained in Rund um die Fluidalenergie and to a lesser extent in Wissenwertes Heft 03.
Regards
Bob |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 39
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 09:40 pm: |
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Hi Phil-spiral,
That makes allot of sense. I recognizes this as truth.
I will read Rund um die fluidalenergie once again.
Thank you for your input.
Peace in wisdom
Derrick |
Bodhran
Member
Post Number: 140
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:24 am: |
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Hi all does anyone know if any more information has come to light about the dark object travelling through our solar system that was mentioned in the contact that Billy spoke about regarding the fears around 2012? Is this possibly the brown dwarf twin of the sun that is currently being discussed on various sites on the internet. I realise that Billy was cautioned not to speak of it until closer to the time so as not to encourage fear mongering amongst doomsayers, but was just wondering if anyone knew any more about it??
Thanks,
Tony
Salome
Tony.
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 374
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 08:13 pm: |
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I'm putting this link here but if there's a better place please let me know or feel free to move it:
http://theyfly.com/Brazil-Retreat.html
As you'll see, Christian Frehner will be with us in Brazil for this retreat and certainly all FIGUfied persons should know about it. |
C_andre
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 11:53 pm: |
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Hi Tony,
I did recently a similar question after reading 510 contact
From http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2011/nr-59/510-kontakt
and about another report that i think seems that talk about the same issue on And Yet they fly..., check out
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8838.html?1301120133
but till now, no one answer this post |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2041
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 12:10 am: |
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Hi Derrick....
Hence: WE are ONE!
Thus, we are ALWAYS in Connection with each other.
You are IN Creation...and Creation IN You....
Like-wise is the case with us human beings as well as with all other creatures
of Creation....
'Boundaries' is more a Material definition...in comparison to the Spirit and
Consciousness, within; which are Timeless and knows no Endlessness, if you
will.
As long as they define within the Creational Duality...they can achieve great
heights....together.....
Edward. |
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