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Edmundo
Member
Post Number: 48
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 05:19 am: | 
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Asking for real names is ok. But I've seen here many times when people are offensive when someone uses nickname and didn't reveal his real name at start.
Please understand that everyone has rights for privacy. It is sufficient that moderators know real names.
Salome. |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 06:17 am: |
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When I was young I was called a rugged individualist. When I was in my fifties I was considered eccentric. Here I am doing and saying the same things I did then and I'm labeled senile. (Just you and me Kid - 1979)
Say "Goodnight" Gracie.
Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs!
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Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 544
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 07:20 pm: |
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hey there jacob, please do not take this the wrong way but i would just like to state something and hopefully get some clarification.
recently and some times in the past, i have posted questions to you in search of information and have gotten no response. while you owe me nothing and may have a busy schedule, it should be mentioned that you answered other peoples inquiries at around the same time.
what's more confusing to me is that you even spend time bickering with some people... thus throwing the "no time" theory to the trash bin.
once again ofcourse you are not obliged to answer questions that i suppose to you, but given the above mentioned, i don't understand why you don't.
i have faired well so far not being able to speak german or have a solid circle of friends who have years of experience in the spiritual lessons... and so when i do reach out and am ignored, it is tempting to feel somewhat resented.
well, i look eagerly foreward to your reply.
thank you for understanding how i feel. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 676
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 10:41 pm: |
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Peter,
This was certainly not intentional, I don't just ignore people.
I might have overlooked them, I will try to answer them when possible (if I know the answer to your question)
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Patm
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 05:22 pm: |
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I would like to explain that in studying the spiritual teaching lessons there is a commitment that is made to keep the lessons confidential between those receiving them (after approval through FIGU written application) and the instructor that will respond and be working with you. No verbal or written copies of the teaching lessons or instructional information shared within them are to be shared with third-parties.
I still don't speak German (yet) so a conversation in German with me would only result in a blank stare and smile from me. This will also change.
However, I have purchased the Oxford German Dictionary as well as Cassell's German Dictionary, both with German to English and English to German. This and the online translator "Google translate" have allowed me to translate Billy's information from the original German text to English. It is not easy and requires some dedicated time studying each word, phrase, sentence, and paragraph to make sure the context of each is correct (and understandable) in changing the German Grammar to English grammar (I also purchased the Oxford German Grammar book).
Please understand that one of the primary goals of FIGU is to disseminate Billy's wording of the Creational Teachings in German. It is our responsibility to each learn German and translate it into our own language(s).
Some on this forum have become dependent on others doing this WORK for them and feel offended when answers don't come in a timely manner for their MANY questions.
Many of those questions (and answers) are already available in the FIGU publications already translated for them, the Forum questions and answers, and the online translators available to all with internet connections (I presume those reading this have that capability) that can be used to read the german online information available through FIGU translated.
Dedicate some time to review what is already available to you before asking someone else to do the work for you.
Those requesting all the answers available in the spiritual teaching lessons, understand that you will NOT receive the answers in the detail you are requesting from those actually studying them as they are under a confidentiality agreement with FIGU. Join FIGU as a contributing Passive Member and request the teaching lessons, translate and study them for yourselves and don't depend on anyone else to do your work as it will be for YOU that you do this.
Thank you Jacob for trying to keep up with these requests but you too could be spending your time studying and developing yourself more rather than answering questions that have already been answered if everyone would only do SOME searching for themselves and while they search find answers to questions they haven't even thought of yet. I also want to thank you for your commitment to learning German and providing yourself for clarity in understanding of the wisdom you have and will continue to grow in as you share...
-PatM |
Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 547
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 08:17 pm: |
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hey there jacob
thanks very much for your clarification. i hope that my request will not present a hinderance for you in regards to your own daily grind. be well. and i hope that you indeed are able to garner an answer to my question.  |
Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 548
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 09:14 pm: |
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hello there pat,
i would like to share a point of view
it is tough to read people's posts who espouse the usual "learn german and find out for yourself" words of wisdom, at times.
Just because someone asks a question does not mean they do not put in an effort to learn spiritual matters themselves.
i find such a notion illogical and very presumptious.
when someone gives advice on how to act or what course of action it is recomended to take, without having a grasp of a persons current situation in life, it makes it difficult to take with favourable opinion.
i can admire your by the book approach. however i would like to say something here...
jacob is a grown man and is (i assume) well aware of any obligations he is bound to, such as not divulging certain info's.
however i cannot help but sense a veiled passive agressive tendency with regards to people who do not do as you would prefer, and indeed show a level of disrespect by not directing your statements to individuals, when certain things are very clear.
on a similair topic, regarding other people on the forum...
it really disheartens me when i see people being antagonistic and thus treated like friends and misunderstood but well meaning people with good intentions, and then people who truly and sincerely seek some assistance, and are then scolded for not towing the line of th status quo.
Jacob stated recently that everybody is adding to the mission, regardless of there methods or the degree to which they apply themselves.
itseems people who make websites and translate texts and display a higher than average level of understanding of the spirit teachings are treated with more "respect" and "praise" if those words could be used here.
i try not to vent my frustrations without making them as such that there are insightfull bits of wisdom that can help others in their own evolution.
thank you for listening. |
Elreyjr
Member
Post Number: 237
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 01:38 am: |
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Bob,
May I respectfully request you email me at elreyjr@gmail.com at your most convenient time so we can establish contact. I was again reminded about a rule regarding having as a facebook note posting from the forum without the author's approval.
Jun
My will be done |
Elreyjr
Member
Post Number: 238
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 01:53 am: |
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Hi Peter,
you have said most of what would like to say.
As an addition, if I try learning High German now in my very late age, it could easily create more confusion than clarity. I have said it before and I will say it again, I would sincerely request my spirit to make arrangements that I reincarnate with the strong likelihood of learning and using High German or any other better way so I can do the studying myself. I will settle for breadcrumbs in the meantime.
Jun
My will be done |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 229
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:02 am: |
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Hello Peter
(#548)
Though I agree with your post completely, I can't help but see the underlying wisdom in Pat's suggestion. Keep in mind that he obviously meant well with it and even spent the time to write a lengthy post with much in insights contained. If we consider the methodology he suggests, it will be discovered that we will reap many benefits. Pat's suggestions would certainly improve our German and the benefits of reading the German texts is without question. I feel that studying as we are doing it now and incorporating what Pat has suggested will bring in new rewards, new cognitions and even subconscious evolutions we would otherwise miss out on using our present method of study. Let's give his suggestion a try as I can clearly see the logic and wisdom behind it. After all, it is said that reading and/or listening to the German text (weather we understand it or not) is more beneficial subconsciously than reading in our own language.
I sense that Pat meant well and that his post was intended to help.
By the way, I've read your recent posts and would like to commend you. It is refreshing to see that you have put in your efforts towards the study of the teachings and it is evident in your posts. I look forward to more of your contributions and exchanges between us.
Salome friend,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 04:16 am: |
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Please forgive me for this interruption of thought but has any one noticed our star lately and what effect it might be having on our feelings and emotions lately and next year or so?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/solar-flare/2011/06/20/AGNVCedH_gallery.html#photo=1
Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs!
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Peter_brodowski
Member
Post Number: 549
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 07:22 pm: |
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hey ther eddie,
i may have come on a bit strong. but my feelings were honest and "from the heart". i do see the value in pat's method and advice.
thanks for your perceptive comment/compliment. |
Marcela
Member
Post Number: 230
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:19 pm: |
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Hello Figu Moderators:
I was trying to find a suitable thread for the new Talmud Jmmanuel and couldn’t find one. Could we create a thread that could read New Talmud Jmmanuel or could you tell me where we could post comments on the new book?
Thank you! Marcela |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 683
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 03:23 pm: |
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Hello Marcela,
Thanks for your suggestion, I will ask the fellow moderators what they think of your suggestion and we will get back to you as soon as possible.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Marcela
Member
Post Number: 231
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 08:07 pm: |
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Thank you Jacob |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 - 10:32 am: |
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sorry but although it says that Scott was the last poster I can't seem to find his post.
Reincarnation, Death and the Storage Banks ---> Scott ---> 07-07-11 04:20 pm
Can any of the moderators fix this please? I dunno but maybe it could be from my end also. |
Johnnybalmain
Member
Post Number: 146
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 04:37 am: |
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Hi there Mods I was just wondering how many from Australia are on this forum. I'm curious of our numbers, are we growing at all?
Peace John |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2161
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 03:12 pm: |
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Hi John,
I wasn't able filter out forum members by location, unfortunately the software doesn't allow it. I have heard rumors about redesigning the forum, which may allow this feature to become activated.
Regards
Scott |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 177
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 06:16 pm: |
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7 people will formalize a group in November.
Until then, it's an informal study group.
I know there are more Australia based people checking this forum (such as yourself) as well as a Facebook related group.
But only each individual can express their interest, our of their own volition, and inquire to join any of the groups.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Johnnybalmain
Member
Post Number: 147
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 08:04 pm: |
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Thankyou Scott for the reply.
Hi Carlos,
I thank you for your information and am very interested in joining such a study group. To whom do I direct my request?
Peace John |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 614
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:43 am: |
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Robyn
Rules & Netiquette
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=instructions#rules
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 731
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 07:44 am: |
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test2
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Hunter2000
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:29 am: |
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Hello to all Moderators and fellow forum members!
As you can tell this is just my second posting and I've been a member for just a short while; but in this time I have spent a great deal of time searching thru the archives- mostly in search of answers to my own questions or topic of study. So that being said, I want to thank you all for the invaluable role you have played in my growth. Thank You! And Saalome!
Now on a different note, I would like to ask if anybody else but me is interested in the creation of a thread for women's issues in relation the Geisteslehre(Spirit Teaching). Although I have learned a lot from the information posted here, and found some of your "pissing contests" mildly entertaining and some concerning, I noticed that posts seem at times charged with the "male" energy we are trying to, shall we say?, "minimize."
Besides being a woman, I'm a mother, new to teaching but committed(Ja, ich bin Deutsch lernen) to growing in Knowledge and living in accordance to Creational Laws; and while that happens, the Material can't be neglected, and we must apply what we are learning in our everyday lives... My everyday life includes an eleven year old boy :o)
Thank you Moderators for your consideration of my request, and thank you again to my fellow travelleres in the journey to join Creation.
Peace in Wisdom!
Linda |
