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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2195
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 03:18 am: | 
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Andres82,
Christian was not able to visit with Billy during the month of October because of previous commitments. The Question and Answer section will open up in the later part of November.
Scott |
Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 01:49 pm: |
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Observing what is happening in nature, has often lead to scientific breakthroughs. One example answering our insatiable desire for more and more energy, etc - could that observed in a rare phenomenon from active volcanoes, that every once in a while (meaning rarely) it is seen that a smoke ring rises out of one, in which the swirling vertices of the the vortex present, is clearly seen in the doughnut shape. Now, if the same is recreated with an electromagnetic field, then there would be the tendency of a natural lift or antigravity effect present?
In the 90s', I came across this diagram, labelled as bshipss - which seems to show this toroid that illustrates this. I don't know anything about this, but that it was amongst some text files about MJ-12 material.
If you look at John Searl's SEG - it is at youtube, or at Ed Leedskalnin's flywheel generator design - it is based upon magnets moving within a toroid also...
Harvey |
Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 01:52 pm: |
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There are examples of those rare individuals in this world, that have that rare condition, called "Super autobiographical memory", a '60 minutes' featured six such people, which included Marilu Henner (from the Taxi comedy series) - in which typically these people, could go back to any date in their life (but only to a certain early age) - and instantly recall what happened to them on that day.
Perhaps something that allows them, to do this, is their habit of wanting to have things tidy and compartized in their life, of everyday things.
I don't know the full details regarding this special condition or ability - but it is reassuring to know, that what is mentioned in a little part of the Billy Meier material, is more or less verified - shown that such things are possible. The ordinary person cannot recall accurately what has happened in the past week of their life, and is always surprised to be told, that everything we do and have done is stored in our subconscious.
Harvey |
Calenwath
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 04-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 01:56 pm: |
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All my young to early adult life, I believed in a perfect supreme creator-god, as many millions of people across the world do and will continue to believe for many centuries yet. Once I had processed what the truth was, that there is NO entity coming to save us from what we have allowed to transpire, for what we've all been a part of in some way, a sense of peace instantly relieved me of things like, fear of death, or the hereafter. I feel that this is the first step as an earth human/OMEDAM when learning the information. I know everyone is differant. Some of us were not raised with such beliefs, some of us were raised with very differant ones. But the peace that truly passes understanding, is knowing your purpose in the here and now, what this is all about, and understanding its only a whisper in time, take what you can, absorb it, and glory be to Creation.
Salome
Shane |
Teesoft
Member
Post Number: 71
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 12:19 am: |
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Hi Shane u are right i also felt inner joy, peace when i found the truth.....Ignorance is a desease so is religion as Ptaah said it can be found in the two lobes of the brain......Its good to be free and i am happy.......
Salome!
Tosin |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2255
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 01:46 am: |
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Hi Shane....
Excellently spoken!
We GROW into Cult Religion and now we have to GROW OUT of it.
Old Traditional Cultivation Process...which can occur in many countries on our
globe. Inevitable.
Utilize "Free Will"...and your on your way!
As Billy mentioned many many times: it is a step-by-step process...
No need, for Competition...[Only, an Ignorant Fool would do so...]
Edward. |
Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 75
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 12:02 pm: |
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OK - I have a somewhat different perspective, when it comes to evaluating the truth, in that the truth should always be able to be subjected to criticism and questioning - and able to withstand this, with it's integrity of consistancy of details, to support the basic premise (truth).
And that when you question something from differing perspectives/viewpoints - you can gain a little more information from this.
You really can't accept information from one source only - that information always need to be colloborated in some way.
For example, when Billy/Plejarens talk about other contactees, etc - I wonder if the Janos People were mentioned at all, whether this was a genuine UFO contact? And there was a case in England, in which a family was abducted, where they had a case of missing time - and it was later uncovered that this was because it being a UFO abduction case. Much like the Barney and Betty Hill case. A UK UFO researcher, Jenny Randles wrote a book about this incident.
Harvey |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2265
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 11:30 pm: |
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Hi Harvey....
Very well put!
It is mentioned that WE should Seek TRUTH within the framework Creational
TRUTH Seeking , which is Seeking Unlimitedly, as to what is mentioned in the
FIGU Materials, as far as I know.
Of course, we should not limit ourselves with just ONE source of Seeking an
answer. Seeking Truth is, Constantly...Accumulating information, analyzing it,
comparing it, and so forth till, a Comprehensible answer is obtained through
Facts and the needed, which we than can define as TRUTH.
As far as I can make out, is: that Billy as well as the Plejarans leave us
ROOM to conduct the above mentioned for ourselves. Billy and the Plejarans do
tend to lead us 'around the bush'(however you say it...)...just to trigger our
THINKING (mode)! Barney and Betty Hill is an excellent example; then they were
abducted and then they were not; I guess you get the point?
Edward. |
Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 05:06 pm: |
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I do think that it is very difficult to reconcile with the Billy Meier material and what the Plejarens say.
On the one hand - you have very sensible and logical thoughts, that everyone should be aware of. eg. That the Earth itself is a living entity and needs to be treated with respect. That all that oil drilling, and removal of oil, is only to lead towards more severity in the earthquakes that we experience. You simply cannot take away millions of gallons of unrefined oil (and also of natural gas, etc etc) and expect nothing to result from this action over many decades. Though I do not know what the Plejarens say, about the natural gas... Just as with the age of the internal combustion engine, which does pump so much dangerous fumes into our atmosphere. If ever you stepped into the path of when a diesel bus drives past you, spewing out its fumes into the air you breathe - you can see what it could be like on a global scale.
Overpopulation, is of course, so very foreseeable - but is not seriously addressed, for our own very future.
And contrast all that sensible and reasonable material, with the very far fetched and almost? unbelievable aspects that is present:
Such as the original story about Jmmanuel/Jesus and what were the original teachings.
Then there are the timetravels that Billy has done. But if hyperspace travel is possible, then it should be foreseen that time travel is then a possibility? And so too, that of travelling into another dimension/universe.
But any person with an inquiring and thoughtful mind, can extrapolate - that when repeated and prolonged contact is made, with ETs - such as is shown in the Billy Meier case, then the stuff of science fiction, becomes seriously considered as "reality".
Though, in some cases - certain science fiction ideas/aspects remains in fantasy, and other things are shown to be similar but different. eg. There is no transporter as in "Star Trek" - but you can be raised/lowered quickly via a light tube - ie. physically.
The Billy Meier case, reads too much like science fiction - for the general population to consider seriously... That for Billy Meier to have experienced all that and more, is simply too much. And the gentler more easier route, for public acceptance, I think - is to say, just read this - just like it is science fiction, at first, then add the footnote - but oh, all of this is not really science fiction at all, but is simply plain fact. Let people deliberate in their own way, whether they will believe it or not...
Adding to this mystery/confusion --- is that the Plejarens will not simply tell us, what we really want to know about. The full details concerning all of the great questions, that most people would like answers to. The entire story of what being a human being is about - from our very beginning, through to the end and beyond - what the afterlife, really is.
And if it is the case, as the Plejarens have said - that no dead alien bodies are kept away secretly by any government, etc on this Earth - then is that also the case with any alien technology too? People here will know of Colonel Corso's claims - that scientists examining alien technology had led to our invention of integrated circuits, fibre optics and so on.
Harvey |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 97
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 10:51 am: |
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Hello all,
I was wondering...I have searched and searched to
find beyond the actual definition, what a "deja vu" is in reality???
In definition I have learned that,"a deja vu is a
temporary setback of the minds polyphonic algorithms that pertain to memory".
in my own observation, this leads me to question...is this a case of...well...time travel??? Or, something else???
This has been a burning question for me.
I thought about posting this question to Billy, but I thought maybe someone had already learned
about this perhaps and they could share it.
Salome
Derrick |
Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 08:51 pm: |
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Harvey, I know just where you are coming from. Here is how I talk to myself sometimes when I feel like this:
"Step lightly here, give the material plenty of time to mature without making snap judgments. The Plejaren are real people, of this I can be certain. What cognitions come next can take some time to assimilate. Instead of focusing on the parts that don't yet make sense, focus of the parts that do. Patiently, let it dribble in slowly so that you don't get overwhelmed. Have confidence that in time it will make sense. And if need be, take some time off from it all."
It turns out reality is quite abit different from what it is widely believed to be. Even the cynical truth-seeking conspiracy nuts (like myself) got it wrong. This is a good thing. All this stuff really does is present a better way to see Life. We don't really need the Plejaren for that. We can get good and grounded by ourselves.
Life
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 467
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 05:21 pm: |
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Harvey,
Perhaps you haven't seen our documentary, which is now available for free viewing online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoZO6CAXxsI
...and maybe you don't know that the best evidence, in my opinion, is the ever-mounting body of prophetically accurate scientific information, which you can find at my site and those linked from it.
And while we're getting the to be expected, brain dead comments from some viewers online, more and more people are making positive comments. I think that instead of worrying about some people seeing it as sci-fi, add to your own sense of the real person and his life story from the film. I think some of your implicit demands about what and how the Plejaren and Meier should do may be put in perspective. |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 716
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 07:35 am: |
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Dear Michael,
A good example of a consice, well structured answer in a neutral-positive light... bravo!
Salome |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 631
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 02:38 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
From observing that production it's obvious you are very comfortable & at your best in such circumstances so considering the skeptics & naysayers with whom you occasionally do radio interviews the question becomes .... why aren't there more videos circulating ?
My favorite moment is when Billy spontaneously busts out laughing at the mention of someone being an expert on women .... these sort of things are priceless for the long run.
In a natural candid setting Billy is the best possible advertisement for the mission material .... people will be curious as to what the author of those 26,000+ pages is really all about as a person and he comes across remarkably well.
Obviously no for the camera's benefit stage managed persona's in evidence throughout the film and that will serve the mission well into the future.
Cheers.
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Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 11:22 am: |
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I have seen "The Silent Revolution of Truth" which I think is well made and nicely put together.
I am all for the Billy Meier / Plejaren material, however there are always some aspects of it, that the general public will find it too difficult to believe, such that when they hear about, these particularly hard to believe facts - may turn them off Billy Meier altogether?
eg. the Gizeh Intelligences, and about the Nazi UFOs.
While the Gizeh Intelligences does explain how come our world religions are so bad, and mislead us - when it is such a secret organisation, no one has any evidence to show that they existed. That it would be important to have left some physical evidence behind of their work, ie. something in the Gizeh pyramid for example, rather than removing all physical evidence such that it seems they were never there...
There is very little evidence for Nazi UFOs - what documentaries that tried to show their history, do not provide anything substantial for their claims. However, there is the excellent book "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook, while it initially doesn't sound like it's about Nazi UFOs, it is - as it looks at what the Germans were up to at the close of WW2. But still even he can't come up with enough convincing evidence to convince the skeptic.
I think what the Billy Meier material does, for most people, is to confirm what they already know and guessed at - and this is of value itself.
Those wanting a rosey picture of the afterlife, will be sorely disappointed - with having to face the fact that our personality will not survive - the only comforting fact with this, is that we've been through all this before (reincarnation) so many many times before, and will continue to do so - because it is what we do. It also says that any religion or belief which claims to enable you to escape from the wheel of reincarnation - is false.
The truth is very hard to accept, for those who have swallowed an erroneous belief system, as being their truth. And the truth will always contain hard facts to accept anyway - because that is how it always is. There is so much lying and deceit, and misdirection going on in this world, that to straighten it all out, is very controversial and is going to take some time to do so. People who already know that our religious leaders, etc are lying up to their teeth, and the same with our politicians (that they don't really know how to run the country or world, and only give the appearance that they do) are well on the way to knowing the truth, as it is.
Harvey |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 11:54 am: |
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Guess I'll have to ask her directly.:3 Of coarse luckily a friend of mine answered it, but what I was going to ask is, about who grace the guy in you movie the apple. Of coarse luckily now I know Billy gave it to him.:3
I initially didnt want to bring it up here, cause I wasn't sure if it was related to the topic at hand.
Also, on contact note number 7 now.:3 |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 468
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 03:24 pm: |
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Hi Ramirez,
There are other videos (Products at www.theyfly.com) where I present the information, such as at the UFO Congress, Flying Saucers Cafe, etc. None of those are scripted, though I use Power Point to accompany my improvised presentations in the UFO Congress series.
I actually had to fight with my partner to keep that bit in where Billy laughed at my response. I loved it because it showed the very natural, warm and human side of him that's so delightful.
There may be more n the future.
Harvey,
As far as the general public having problems, etc., please see my new blog:
http://theyflyblog.com/the-kind-of-criticism-i-like/11/05/2011
These things take time and patience and, every now and then, there's a pleasant little payoff. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2273
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 12:41 am: |
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Hi Derrick....
I have had Deja Vu's a number of times just as many would have here and, as
you may have had.
I have no idea of the FIGU Materials on that but I can only speak for myself.
I somehow think it has to do with our Future Programming, of an/the
individual.
Somewhere in time when such occurrence takes place you have it (already)
'stored' in your sub-consious(ness) or memory(; as Billy once called it: a
Waiting Room, only still having to be processed; if I am correct).
And, when the Deja Vu occurs, it will just surface and will be something
'familiar' to the individual; Visually(/or Sensation), almost as it is being
played(/sensed/felt) before him/her-self.
But, if you want to know for sure, it would best to ask Billy, if you wish?
Edward. |
Ed209
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 05:30 am: |
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Hi
Just wondered if Figu produces a claendar. One perhaps of the Billy's photographs of Beamships and surrounding Swiss countryside, or maybe quotes and symbols?
Ed |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 05:54 am: |
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I've also had deja vu quite a bit. For those that havent experienced it, its a bit like going to a place you never been before, but somehow feeling like you been there before. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 471
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 12:15 pm: |
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Sarah,
Hmmmmmm, that's strange, I feel like I've...read that before. |
Sarah
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 04:05 pm: |
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I actually get the feeling a lot. I have no idea why.
I was a little worried I double posted for a second.D: |
Derrick
Member
Post Number: 98
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 03:14 am: |
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Thanks Edward!
that made allot of sence.
I wonder...have I already asked billy this before and I'm just in the waiting room? lol
I really would love to hear what Billy would say to this though. There seems to be an ocean of questions up there for Billy...I would almost feel guilty to post more questions. Never the less, this one really gets me.
Salome
Derrick |
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