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    Thomas Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 08-2011 |
Legal issue for Christian about FIGU: Moderators, I would like to ask Christian what the correct procedure is for asking for written permission to use some of FIGU/BEAM's photos on a website. There is nothing for sale and the website is not commercial. I would just like to do things correctly and not cheat anyone nor do anything illegal/immoral. Please contact me Christian at your earliest possible convenience. My email address is --------------- Thanks in advance for your help. (Message edited by Indi on November 24, 2011) | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2005 |
It can be disconcerting to read in later material that what was stated earlier on, no longer applies. Contact Report 424 does also say that the vast majority of UFOs are simply not of alien origin - and that most are of terrestrial (Earth built) UFOs. The Kecksberg case probably being a prime example, maybe Bentwaters another? Given how distorted and misleading our world religions are - the Plejarens should have known, that you cannot trust what people have said, and go by that alone. That always hard evidence is required as absolute proof/confirmation of any event - or there has to be a consistency of details given, which are so accurate, that the details supplied tell a oomplete descriptive and accurate story. Harvey | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2217 Registered: 12-1999 |
Harvey, I agree it is disconcerting, for instance this small excerpt from Billy's great voyage in which Ptaah stated the following: "Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from - OVERCROWDING -, and needs huge quantities of food. For this reason, beings from that planet, called AKART come to Earth often, to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their - 23 BILLION - population." Does this mean that this information regarding Acart is not true as well? Scott | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2008 |
Scott, no it doesn't mean that information about the planet Akart is not true because we Earth human beings should learn from that and control our overpopulation. Harvey, I myself had already brought this up with reagard to Semjase getting it wrong about the Hills. I know that the Plejaren are human beings like us and also make mistakes but how could Semjase make such a silly mistake like that is beyond me. You'd think she would have investigated this by going back in time or something of the sort but probably she didn't because if she did then she wouldn't have come to the wrong conclusion. By the way this is not the first time that Semjase has given misinformation. She had once said that cigarette smoking isn't really that harmful only to be corrected once again by her father Ptaah. | ||
Eduardo Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2011 |
OK. But can someone from the core group ask Billy about this so called alien abductions? because bottom line there are way to many contradictions. Perhaps Billy can ask Ptaah for a definitive answer, are they any real abductions that ocurred? if so why, who and where? Thank you. | ||
Peter_brodowski Member Post Number: 575 Registered: 01-2004 |
why do people seem to hold the plejarens to a standard of almost Perfect Being? it is not the Plejarens obligation to explain themselves, and all their actions to us. it is safe to say they care about us and our wellbeing. is the concept of trust so foreign to us? why do people call attention to seemingly contradictory statements, of how little there may be... and yet make no great mention of the incredible demonstration of wisdom and intellect, through the spiritual teachings etc? it would then stand to reason in ones mind that matters which need clarification, recieve clarification. from my own experience i can tell you: if you put your trust into someone, even if you do not know them from face to face relations... if your intentions are honest and rooted in love, and you put yourself of vulnerable position, into the care of someone you have a high regard and respect for, then trust that you will find rewards of the utmost value and relevance, through the guidance of those person or persons, with the same degree of regard, respect and trust as you. we are dealing with people who not only love us, care for our future, try honestly to understand us and teach us great knowledge... but who also need to be taught lessons i life. hey there eduardo: i am sure that you can find sufficient information on abductions etc, at futureofmankind website. in relation to you asking for the specifics about the abductions etc. i read some clear info there in the contact notes. | ||
Andres82 Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 08-2011 |
Well, to the point.. The Plejarens are what they say they are. Refer to contact note 1. They are not beyond us.. They are not superior to us.. They do laugh, they cry,love etc. etc.. The same.. Do not forget that they are also human and do not let the word "Alien/Extrateresttrial" separate you from them. It is not "Them" and us. No no, quite on the contrary we are the same. Things are very different.. But, still the same. I have often asked myself... How will the mission progress, how will things change after Eduard is gone? Whats next? - Will they continue contacts with other capable individuals on earth? or will they watch from a distance and hope that we dont let the planet go KABOOM!? I know that Asket and her friend will be visiting again here on earth - They mention that they will in Billy's excursion to the DAL Universe. Its a shame we have to wait so long before we can catch up with the rest of the galaxy.. Salome P.S. - When do we get our Q's to Billy Answered? Lyrian Spirit | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2005 |
I do agree with the majority of the Plejaren/Billy Meier material - in that my own thoughts and conclusions were already aligned with this material before I started reading it. eg. I knew that the world religions were indeed corrupted and rotten through and through - and it was reassuring to read of someone who would be completely honest with us, about them. That the Plejarens, and Billy tell us what the score exactly is, in this area. The same with their comment on world governments, and leaders - that they are not genuine in their leadership nor goodwill towards others. (And are really tyrants and warmongers, etc) And I would agree that the vast majority of alien abduction cases, simply could not be real - but also, it is possible for there to be some genuine cases - especially when details are revealed, which can indicate this? I do surmise however - that perhaps there will not be the hard evidence available to support the Plejaren material? That the most we can ever hope for, is that only certain facts they tell us, will be colloborated in some way - and perhaps if this was tallied (counted up) over the passing years - this would be reassurance for us all. Harvey | ||
Teesoft Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi Andres i do wonder all things you mention too but i am optimistic things will turn out well for us only a matter of time if we work toward it, and to your question i think we get the Q to Billy this month ending cus we didn't get to ask last month which i think it had something to do with Christian being busy or something! Salome, Tosin | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 476 Registered: 07-2009 |
No "hard evidence".."collaborated in some way"? Have you ever bothered to read ALL of the information here: http://theyfly.com/Corroborated-Information-Sources.html | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 463 Registered: 02-2009 |
Are the android beings that crashed at Roswell belong to the same race of Zeta Reticuli ET's that visits our earth ? How did the media/public got the info that the "alien forms" that crashed at Roswell were from Zeta Reticuli system, which is correct according to PLejaren ? It could be that someone had leaked the info that had been obtained from the investigation of the crash. Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1460 Registered: 02-2000 |
Sometimes I feel like the Plejarens don't always do enough research when answering some questions. Only to have it comes back and bite them in the ass. I think it's fair to say that Wendell Stevens book on Acart is not the same planet as Billy's Akart. Similar names but different planets. Even though Acart is not even a real planet or UFO case. According to the Plejaren. My Website | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 12-2009 |
Mahigitam, the beings that crashed in Roswell were bio-organic androids built by human beings from Zeta Reticuli. Salome Corey | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 728 Registered: 10-2005 |
Maybe the lack of "hard evidence" is due to an unconscious lack of spirituality of those not seeing the evidence when it is indeed... staring them squarely in the face. It does not even have to stare them in the face... if those "seekers" use logic, reason, perception and empathy... (all non tangible and unprovable attributes BTW) which require no human physically based organ to perceive it... then the evidence they supposedly seek may become apparent. Many will have to forget the lies they have been taught before it becomes logical for them. Many will argue rather than open the mind, the Gemüte (the spiritual counterpart of the Psyche)... Salome | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2291 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Havey.... I fully agree with your stance on your mentioned. Semjase, was the one whom did not conduct a thorough investigation as it should have been conducted. As I understood, she only concluded from the information she had THEN. After, the later NEW investigation of 4-5 years(with other ETs), indeed, the results were quite astonishing. Which, Scott posted is an excerpt from that NEW 4-5 year investigation; including other cases which were not real or have never taken place. The Hill Case, could indeed been as HOW it occurred in the excerpt. I once watched (one of the Science Channels) a professor whom was conducting experiments on how an individual can imagine images (aliens, monsters, etc...) before him/her which are NOT really there. These experiments concerned Electromagnetic Fields(; by manipulating their brain with the mentioned frequencies). [That is WHY, it is also advised not to sleep in and around..Electric devices, such as lamps, extension cables, etc... which are in the close proximity of One's Brain/head; which I knew from studies decades back. ] This does 'ring a bell', eh? Yes, it does! Just as the Plejarans mentioned in relation to the Hill Case, thus, this can indeed explain what occurred with them. So, it must have been a powerful Natural manifestation, this Electromagnetic Field which manipulated the Hill's brains and created this 'mirage' type of effect, so to speak. As the Plejarans would call: Realistic Vision, type of effect. So you see, Semjase, is just like you and me, Human...and can make mistakes. Edward. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 420 Registered: 10-2009 |
I agree Edward. Another thing one may want to think about is this - I live in an area that has strange lights in the sky, lights chasing vehicles, both cattle and horse mutilations, beam ship sounds and a crop circle. But not one abduction, not even a hint of an abduction. What does that tell me? No one around here has been abducted and that's my hard evidence. Does anyone personally know of anyone who has been abducted? (reading about it on the internet doesn't count) If you think about it logically what can a person tell you that has been abducted? If they feel so traumatized by the event of examination, what is it that you expect to learn? Do you really think you are going to glean some knowledge that is not covered by the Plejaren? Imagine your doctor examining you, does he/she tell you everything going on in his head while examining you? No they don't. So why would you expect this from an alien doctor? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Theredpill Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2010 |
Hi Edward, It must be some really good manifestation for them to even come up with the star system where Zeta-Reticuli was located in, that later matched the real system confirmed, and they didn't even know what it was called under hypnosis. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2294 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi (Harvey,) Sheila and Theredpill.... [Harvey, apologies for misspelling your name.] Sheila: Yes, interesting input. Billy and the Plejarans did mention that many so-called Abduction Cases are done by: Copycats. They may have read about...before hand, had already interest in such subject, etc.; so, it can occur that such individual experiences such Pseudo experience. Many individuals just 'imagined' their so-called Abduction; either being unstable, or having a disorder, or even doing it consciously for attention or/and Deceiving the public, etc.... Theredpill: As to what I came across was that, right after the so-called Abduction, the Hills, particularly...Betty conducted much investigation on UFOs and related, and than MANY YEARS later the Hypno session took place, thus, the Star System was ALREADY....'implanted' in her mind, by HERSELF, during her investigation in that material! Thus, this explains the Star System location aspect, during the Hypno session. Edward. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2009 |
I just watched that episode of ufo hunters which features the Hill case. Betty's drawing of Zeta Reticuli did not match exactly. There were bigger/brighter stars in that system which she didn't even draw. Close, but no cigar. I'm sure you could draw any combination of stars and make it match up with something. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 732 Registered: 10-2005 |
This is not about FIGU but I may be able to clear up some of what is in this current conversation. Billy has kind of changed his stance about the Betty and Barney Hill case. It was thought to be true at first and then it was thought to be false, so with that in mind: It is my understanding from a paper called "The Zeta Reticuli Incident, by Stanton Freidman, the man who studied the Hill case extensivly... that the double star Zeta-Reticuli system was discovered by a third grade teacher who placed a large glass box with thread and pearls representing known M Class stars (able to support human life) within a four or five light year obviously scaled down distance in her living room and found two of the stars which fit Betty Hill's graphic description... in the Southern Hemisphere (not visible from where she lived). It was only through this constant observation (it being in her living room), three years time and finally a correction to the mistake in distance of those stars in the official earth science star positioning charts that the pearls representing the spacing patterns were recognized by this observant and perseverant lady. Salome | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 02-2005 |
It is disconcerting to read that there are actually very few genuine UFO - ETs cases/contacts/whatever - that the Plejarens put a lot of manpower into an investigation that revealed this, along with using new technology (It would be nice to know what it was, so as to know how good their investigation was...) There was a case in England about a family, that is so similar to the Hill case. I'm not sure if this was the Janos People case or not. This case appeared in a book by Jenny Randles, who's investigated a lot of UFO cases. And there was a case of a gamekeeper? in England who was featured in one of those Arthur C Clarke's "Mysterious Universe"? programmes who was attacked by an alien object - basically a metal sphere with legs sticking out, in which only one was touching the ground at one time (which to me, could have described what could have created the "Devil's Hoofprints" a century earlier?). Coincidentally drawing/representing the AIDS virus, is drawn this way, is so similar. Harvey | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 252 Registered: 03-2006 |
By the way, I already did a search of the Benj. Stevens website, the FoMK website, and the figu.org/ch sites without any success. | ||
Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 253 Registered: 03-2006 |
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know where I can find FIGU information pertaining to Gamma Interferon (Other than Rebecca Walkiw's website), and information that Quetzal gave about the danger of the internet collapsing next year due to its aging infrastructure? I am compiling information to put up on the FIGU Canada website. If anyone can help, thank you!! |
