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    Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 09-2011 |
I hadn't heard that Corey, thanks. The point here is that NASA expended some considerable energy and technical know-how at one point to come up with the brilliant idea of saying "Howdy" to any space-faring extraterrestrials. NASA did do this, and it was openly discussed. For me, the implication is that the government cannot righteously be so closed to the idea of intelligent extraterrestrial life when at one time we reached out to it. Life | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 149 Registered: 03-2007 |
Corey, Your understanding is incorrect. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2548 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Corey... Correction, that LP Disc was the Voyager Golden Records. Which was on the Voyager spacecraft, later launched in 1977. Which contained full Earth data and its origin,etc. Plejarans, may have done something about that also....? Edward. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 12-2009 |
Schantz, Thanks for the correction. It had been some years since I thought I had read that, so I guess I was wrong. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2323 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello, In regards to Obama, this sentence made me think possibly he may have been somehow connected with the codex/agreement. “Obama's mission and the FIGU somehow run parallel and there exists a deep connection that reaches back thousands of years. Regardless of whether Obama is conscious of it or not, he can still bring about all kinds of positive, progressive and evolutive things for the humanity of Earth and prevent a third world war inferno which is still a threatening possibility.” http://www.figu.org/ch/book/export/html/2432 | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 02-2005 |
One hopes that a cosmic viewpoint is: That if we exist - as such, then there is the likelihood (or even the surety) that intelligent life also exists elsewhere in the universe - but also guaranteed that intelligent life is abundant in the universe. But somehow this cosmic viewpoint, cannot seem to accept that such intelligent life did visit Earth many times in our past - such as indicated by almost all of our ancient cultures, which tell of such visits by 'gods', who gave them the gifts of civilisation - teaching them many things, and also giving them various gifts. But also one cannot count on them, (ie. the gods) being always peaceful and beneficial to us. In that as in all things - you should expect aliens to be either good or evil (towards us) and also neutral and indifferent. And the sooner we can expect visits from them again - is when 'we' are ready/grown up enough to do so. Meaning our culture has to be ready for official contact and relations/etc. Meaning also no more movies that shock and spook us like 'Alien' 'Aliens' etc but also we do not want cults like heaven's gate/etc to rise up again. But of course, this world will never be ready, as long as we have weapons of mass destruction - such as ICMs containing h-bombs spread all over our planet. That if we cannot be peaceful among ourselves - then we cannot certainly be peaceful with extraterrestrial contacts... And a way for this world to grow up - is to know our full and complete history, ie. the millions of years of our own history to be revealed publicly and accepted by the majority - and also to know our full life cycle, especially about the process of life and death, and reincarnation in it's proper understanding and details/etc. We certainly need to know all about the various ancient technologic (and also non-technologic) civilisations of this Earth - especially about Atlantis and Mu, so as to vow to never again, let that kind of annihiliation ever happen again? That if we do not know our own history, then we are doomed to repeat it time and time again. Remaining ignorant and never knowledgeable enough to evolve higher. This should mean the end of all our current world religions - which are like 'weeds' that need to be eliminated for the betterment of mankind, so that we can remain clear thinking with our logic and reasoning intact - and to never let that be comprised again. The majority of the world religions don't offer us valid ideas and concepts - but seriously flawed and mixed up ones. The most fundamental ideas they present are false - and this is why most reasonable people have rejected religions in their various forms and guises, because they wish to keep their logical thinking processes intact and unsullied. Hopefully what I have written is acceptable to the majority of clear thinking individuals - whether or not they have encountered the Billy Meier writings/material... Harvey | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2549 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott.... Interesting detailed, update! Perhaps? If not related to the Codex...he may have ben just a very Decent...human being, in (all) his incarnations, I would think. Which granted him the position of what he is: A TRUE leader for humanity. The link information...speaks for itself.... Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2550 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Harvey... Excellently...spoken! Well, we are still struggling with those Puppeteers in the background, whom are directing our ways of life: as THEY want us to be. Commonly known: the Wealthy, and those with immense Power are the 'blockage' to the knowledge of making ET life known....to the world. THEY know, that they could lose a great deal of Power over humanity, if ET acknowledgement is made known, worldwide! Religions will collapse, as will the monetary system, go so on. Thus, THEY have to maintain The LIE, to keep their statues of Power Structure, going. Sure, Billy did say, life and all....is a step-by-step process, but, those in such Power Structure have NO right to keep The TRUTH of ET life from their populations; or other facts. Thus, those in such Power Structures, want to maintain THEIR Power: what ever it may cost! This would indeed manifest itself within the framework of Slavery! Which can only be THEIR way....to maintain THEIR Power. A Cosmic Viewpoint or Point Of View: would be that we ALL accept and respect each other like TRUE human beings...and NOT as Slaves. No excuses. But, those in Power...see otherwise, alas...: THEY want us to Evolve...as THEY want us to Evolve! Thus: we are not Evolving Truly...within the framework of TRUE Creational Seeking Knowledge, etc. Thus, THEY are Stagnating us from seeking True Truth, as it should manifest within the framework of TRUE Creational Seeking. Edward. | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 02-2005 |
If the excuse is given - that we need nuclear weapons for our defense of this Earth - then, let it be so, that only a handful be allowed, that are safe and secure, never to be allowed for our own destruction (against fellow human beings of this Earth). Our greatest enemy - is of course - ourselves. Fellow human beings, and overpopulation will see to that. A review of our own known history shows this to be the case - and dire warning of our near future, our present future - which is all too foreseeable. Harvey | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 12-2009 |
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/BAShistory.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_of_the_Atomic_Scientists (brief histories on the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists) For decades the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has been warning that to prevent nuclear weapons from being used, the answer is complete disarmament, and the control of nuclear weapons should be in the hands of people outside of the state/government circles until that is done. Some of these people were working to abolish nuclear weapons before the US dropped the bombs on Japan and Albert Einstein was a former member. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists later morphed into a group called Pugwash, started by Joseph Rotblat, the only scientist to leave the Manhattan project on moral grounds. He is the only signatory alive from the Russel-Einstein Manifesto: http://www.pugwash.org/about/manifesto.htm I once read an article online from Joseph, where he claims the scientists who were working on the Manhattan project were tricked by the US government, who told them if Hitler was defeated they would abort nuclear weapons. After Hitler was defeated the US government dropped them on Japan so they could, in the words of a General Leslie Groves (the head of the Manhattan project) "subdue Russia". Flash forward a few years and you have the Cold War, with Russia developing nuclear weapons. Flash forward to today and you have more and more countries obtaining these weapons and very little disarmament going on these days, except the START Treaty (Obama and Russia). In the words of these scientists, nuclear deterrence doesn't work, the only thing that will is disarmament. We have to get rid of these weapons. We will probably learn the hard way in the future that our governments should have listened to these people all these years. Some of these scientists helped develop nuclear weapons and afterwards they realized their mistake of placing such destructive power in the hands of governments. Us Earth humans take such pride in destroying what Creation made (atoms, environment, each other), the Henoch prophecies say anarchy will be worldwide, and after 888 days of hell (2.43 years), there will be some years of starvation, poverty, and burns.  Wars aside, as far as overpopulation goes, the desertification, loss of food and water sources, loss of flora and fauna, loss of resources our sciences need to develop, and overall warming of the planet is not going to be pretty either. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 05-2012 |
Kiwilove How do you plan to use nuclear weapons for fighting off ET intelligence which has to have far more advance technology to even approach the Earth? I assume you misunderstood Plejarens advising to keep some nuclear power for possible asteroids deflection - nothing else though. Adventure with periodic table and "structure of the atom" is such a brief one that we surely do more harm than good with it. What about the nuclear waste? It's like you would have to bury forks and spoons after every time you eat. Another one... brief encounters with x-rays which,when discovered, were thought to be harmless and ...a good fun to see your bones, skull, etc. and we're only moment in time after that and again - still thinking that we know it all! But ask anyone how to neutralize radiation and see what happens... Albert's case is a prove that there is always great need ,purpose and necessity behind incredible innovations. It's just that mankind acts like a little child with its first little bike. It has to be fun to ride it, but make sure you have knee pads and helmet to join the ride. Pay attention now as the Sun's increased activity and resulting enormous electromagnetic storms can take out not only satellites and thus most modern communication systems,defense systems, flight navigation and control,etc. etc.... but also cooling mechanisms and their backups in most power plants on Earth. Not to mention always possible earthquakes, meteorites, tsunamis, accidents, ongoing shifting of magnetic poles etc, etc. Chernobyl's disaster was caused by only short power loss (arranged as a "controlled" test by humans!) Realize this and come to terms that nuclear war isn't really prerogative for radioactive holocaust. Now you have the main logic behind anti-nuclear world. Salome | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 02-2005 |
The only real argument for say keeping a handful of nukes for threats from outer space - is that it is at least better than the present total, which is in the hundreds or is it thousands of nukes. And as for using them to blast away asteroids and such threats - there'll have to be the probability that says it won't simply increase the number of potential hazards from one, to many thousands of pieces that will hit the Earth anyway? Most sane people tend to want to stay from religions as far as possible - knowing they offer nothing positive for mankind anyway, and warping anyone's critical thinking towards false values and views, etc. Universal truth is actually very simple. All human beings rank as being equal with one another - no one should be placed in a higher position, and also no one at a lower position also. There is enough on this planet to go around - if it is shared equally with one another. Morals are likewise very simple. To get along with others - you have to be nice to them. Or at least neutral. If you act in a belligerent or untrusting manner - you'll only get the same in return. Any killing of any human life, is wrong, ie. evil. Likewise with your own life - life is always precious and should be treated respectfully. If we want to evolve towards a higher civilisation, with peace and prosperity etc etc - then the above simple laws have to be observed. Otherwise this Earth will only remain barbaric and primitive (even if we have advanced technology, etc at our disposal) - and lack true spirituality. We of course - need to move away from a monetary/materialistic system/values - and instead embrace a mindset that embraces goodwill and love towards others - in which genuine respect for everything around us, is practiced. If we gain in knowledge - and do away with false information - then all of the above is achievable. Harvey | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2552 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Corey and All... Yes, disarmament...- to some point -, to add. I think the Plejarans did say we get rid of a majority of Nukes, and let a few still be there for some purpose. For, what ever, the case may be that they become a necessity. And, than, One would ask: WHO would get rid of their Nukes, and WHO does not!? So, this would also become quite a stance of argument with each other. Edward. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Edward It would be nice if we had the technology to diffuse the atomic bomb like the way the Plejarans disposed of the one that was dropped on Billy. As you know to every action there is a equal and opposite reaction.It makes me wonder why they have not given us that technology. joe | ||
Verlanis New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2012 |
The means involved to help radioactive substances become deionised is a portion of technology research that is largely underfunded. This due primarily to the war nature exhibited by Terrans. The EU has current plans of building a few labs around Europe for this purpose which involve 10 megawatt lasers powered by geothermal plants. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 88 Registered: 08-2011 |
Hi Joe/Votan. The bomb dropped on BEAM was not atomic, was not diffused but only shielded from below and the tech for doing that would likely cause more harm than it prevented in the hands of Earth people. Besides, as the ETs have continuously said, it is not in line with their directives to interfere with us in the way you would have them do. All of these things are sprinkled throughout the contact notes and the books from BEAM. Have a great day Joe and everyone else as well :-) Thomas | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2556 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Joe... Thomas, explained thoroughly. If there is any danger which concerns Billy (and the Mission), there would of course be the needed measures taken to prevent whatever calamity to be deterred. But, the Plejarans did help us Earth humans with averting the (US) Thermo Detonation, in the past....which would have destroyed Earth within seconds, as I understood. Thus, that was quite a necessary intervention of them, and which we all should be thankful for. Edward. | ||
Historeed Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2008 |
Regarding the recent contact report about 9/11, Billy states that the majority of the US population will, unfortunately, choose Mitt Romney for president. Am I reading too much into Billy's statement by concluding that Obama will loose the election? Perhaps it means Romney will win the popular vote, but Obama will win the 270 electoral college votes needed to ensure his 2nd term? Matthew Reed | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2330 Registered: 12-1999 |
Matthew, I think it speaks more to how the Republicans have placed Romney on the Presidential Ballot, not so much that he will become the next president...but that's just my opinion. Scott | ||
Verlanis New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2012 |
There has never been an election in America so Full of foul play than this year. I do see a win for Obama. It's truly saddening that my countrymen are so hypnotically controlled, and have no recognition of the fact. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 229 Registered: 11-2008 |
In FIGU Special Bulletin 68 Ptaah describes Mitt Romney as a psychopath. ---> http://au.figu.org/question_romney.html And maybe here's another reason why one should not vote for Mitt Romney. ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMD02zU9SE&feature=g-logo-xit | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 128 Registered: 02-2005 |
It doesn't take that much to see through the incompetency of the world's democracies. The American presidential election is such a farce. That only 2 candidates are given for the people to vote for - no wonder the non-voters always outweigh those who vote. Parties are just red herrings and a complete waste of time. Whoever wins, still have to govern for the majority - no matter what party they voted for. Parties end up being a mirror of each other anyway because they cannot afford to not please the majority. If truth be what is required - to know and face up to reality, then let us call a spade a spade. That those who most lie to us, would be religions and politicians, and they use the same techniques to deceive the public (and their followers) - driven by greed, the desire for power and the satisfaction of their own ego, and it is never about the greater good of mankind. Harvey | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 589 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Politics is the "art" of ADVANTAGE…not service to the greater good. |
