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Ferbon Member
Post Number: 124 Registered: 05-2012
| Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 02:56 am: |
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Michael - Could your statement/post be more specific, hopefully supported by examples,books, articles,stories,anecdotes,research, contact reports, direct quotes, history? This looks like someone spray-painted the bridge or scratched it on the bathroom wall. nevertheless - really nice to read when taking a s... Salome |
   
Jedaiah Member
Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2012
| Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 04:14 am: |
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Michael I completely agree with that. |
   
Joe_ottawa Member
Post Number: 11 Registered: 06-2011
| Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 05:28 am: |
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Hi all, I was reading "And Still They Fly" by Guido Moosbrugger. On page 151 he quotes Contact Report of October 02, 1976. In that contact the name of a certain person is left out for legal reasons. Does anyone know who that person is? Tks |
   
Michael_horn Member
Post Number: 591 Registered: 07-2009
| Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 01:50 pm: |
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> Regarding my statement, I'm sure it could. > Of course one could think about it themselves. One could think about what politics is…as opposed to how aspiring to discover and apply universal principles - such as are in the spiritual teaching - to the solution of human problems without room for partisanship, special perks, favors, funds, profit, personal advantages, etc., which unnecessarily polarize people and DELAY progress, solutions to problems and benefits to ALL concerned, not just one side or another. |
   
Kiwilove Member
Post Number: 129 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 01:43 pm: |
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Democracies all over the world today are very ineffective governments due to the corruption of the system. The constant bickering between major parties - are merely a diversion against unity and common sense. A red herring of major proportions. The US in particular has shown the way not to go - with it's vast spending on the military and secret weapons - and has only proved itself to be a dictatorship. Dictating to the world, and not leading by example. It's example is the worst - if all is revealed in the light of day - ie. Covert CIA involvement in wars before they became wars. Most people with their common sense intact - know about all this, in one way or another, on some level or another - know of the hypocrisy present. That the public hardly knows the truth, or is informed about it - that the mass media hardly reflects the truth at all about the way things actually are. Over the decades the same patterns are repeating - and over millennia the same too. As the Plejarens say - mankind's technologic progressive has been massive and fast - but not so with it's spirituality and awareness, as the masses are misled by our so-called 'leaders' to their own slaughter. Harvey |
   
Edward Member
Post Number: 2564 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 12:31 am: |
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Hi Harvey.... WELL...said! But, the NATO and the other Allies, are just: THE SAME! Billy/Plejarans, DID...mentioned of the 'Copycats' or as I would say the 'hop-alongs', which are just as bad! Every country that COPIES America, will acquire the SAME illnesses, problems, and what not. Thus, THEY, are being lead by their OWN Blind Faith; non Religious or not. NATO, is also committing very horrific WAR crimes against humanity, just as well! But, it is mentioned in the FIGU materials, that even the NATO will go beyond proportions; when it gets down to the point!![NOW, Middle East conflicts....; THEY are doing 'The Dirty' work for the US!!] Thus: THIS...Prediction...has fulfilled itself.... Edward. |
   
Kiwilove Member
Post Number: 130 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 07:11 pm: |
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The world has to wake up to a new mindset - if it wants peace and harmony, etc on this Earth. The old attitudes (and glorifying) of war has to go. With Armistice Day just passed - current and past attitudes to war, have been to glorify it - and not really to fully acknowledge the horror and uselessness of war. We should have the attitude of 'Never, never again' to allow a world war to come to fruitition in which untold suffering has to be gone through once again... and again. History says - if we don't acknowledge a problem, we are always forever doomed to repeat the same old problem all over again - and that is, to simply get along with each other, even if we are not in agreement with each other. With the horror of reporting the news of terrorism - it is not acknowledged that those who resort to murder and killing, actually bring disrepute to their cause and invalidates it. Because murder and killing is never acceptable for any reason. In our entertainment via Hollywood and other such sources, etc etc - killing and murder seems to be acceptable in prime time - and this is setting the wrong examples and wrong lessons, etc etc. Also the real issues are never discussed openly in all the media - politicians and religious people merely spread their lies. In getting to the truth in anything - it is always about true and valid ideas and concepts versus those ideas and concepts which are not valid, and are untrue. Harvey |
   
Corey Member
Post Number: 322 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 10:18 pm: |
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Top Secret US Government craft? (with video) http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/ufos-over-denver-maybe-175541305.html OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Verlanis Member
Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2012
| Posted on Friday, November 16, 2012 - 03:10 pm: |
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The hidden folds of the black operations are a little daunting from an earthlings perspective. THEY do seem to have craft that can travel very efficiently within the Earth's terrestrial areas and clear out to Mars. I do not think they have cracked the light speed barrier quite yet, despite the News of experiments looking for Warp Bubbles( a reference from the show Star Trek). Many of these vehicles that are terrestrial that can go out to Mars are low in number, less than 100 I believe. What they do have is a good number of very advanced robotic air vehicles, and rocket based spacecraft that do not conform to the standard idea of aerodynamics. This can be so merely by speculation based on current computing power. Way too many unknowns to get a proper picture, but the fact remains that any military will not show their full hand unless they have to do so. What America does show is only for fanfare, and intimidation, and sadly it does do a good job of revealing some interesting capabilities that other nations just cannot keep up with at the current time. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --Jack W.
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Corey Member
Post Number: 323 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 01:41 pm: |
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Verlanis, In the bulletins Ptaah names the other countries that are building those top secret craft, England, Russia, and China and I would presume their craft are coming along nicely too, and could probably hold their own with the US craft. The sad thing is it's probably going to be a long time before there is more of a collaborative effort to build them, or any sort of public knowledge about them. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Kiwilove Member
Post Number: 131 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 05:01 pm: |
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It is very very difficult for a member of the public, so to speak, with an interest in the unusual to be able to tell whether some stories (facts and information) are true or not? For example - there is the story of John Searl and his SEG apparatus. In the 'The John Searl Story' documentary, gives an overall history of this amazing inventor and his machine, etc etc. This goes back to the late 70s'? in which news about him did go around the world. What is interesting about the video - is that his machine is shown working, whereas there was only a general description given, in the news at that time. And it is interesting to note that his idea has to do with a moving magnetic field within a toroid (donut) concept - and this seems to be a common varient with Ed Leedskalnin's flywheel device (again magnets moving within a toroid - but in a different way). Has Billy Meier made mention about John Searl? at any time? How many other workable inventions are there out there - which, if developed for use by the masses would see our dependence of oil cut out altogether? And also make a mission to Mars possible within hours and not years. Harvey |
   
Edward Member
Post Number: 2572 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 12:32 am: |
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Hi Corey and All.... I just tried the link, and it says: Removed by the owner...or something? Well, whatever crafts we may encounter these days, we still have to take much caution! Indeed, terrestrial crafts can indeed be the case. As Ptaah, once explained to Billy of the/that huge Triangle craft that was witnessed in mainly Europe, Belgium, and even over here, in Holland, and thus not only in the USA, was a threat to Billy. Forgot the details, but, I think it was related to the Secret Ops project from USA which focused on Billy; possible to attempt to kill him back in those days. Like Ptaah, said, that there is not much to add to the scenario when it gets down to the point of technology advancements. Thus, USA, France, Canada, and go so on, are still at it; and, we must not be surprised if we witness one of THEIR crafts, which is of course, NOTHING extraterrestrial. So, these crafts may more-or-less be similar to the known 'drones', but...of course, in craft their shape differ. I can not remember where I read this, but it was said, that before any such war/confrontation, discs would be witnessed, and than, that war/confrontation would break out. It was mentioned, that it/they could be US or Allies Observing Discs, to plot out the course of the attack, and than execute the war. So, it seems, that not all Observing Discs...are extraterrestrial! Which, we have to keep in mind, as we go along. Edward. |
   
Verlanis Member
Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2012
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 01:36 pm: |
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Corey, thank you for pointing me to that bulletin! I forget how much is known here. It is nice especially where I've just been digging on my own for a few years. I remember watching a promotional video about the SEG generator a few years back. It did show the machine in operation. It inspired me to cook up some less intricate designs just for windmills. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --Jack W.
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Corey Member
Post Number: 325 Registered: 12-2009
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 06:08 pm: |
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Edward, http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/52757/ufo-over-denver/ This link has the same video at the bottom. Never mind what the link article says about aliens from the planet Gootan attacking terrestrial humans which is just crap. The video itself at the bottom is from a local Denver news station that shows craft that move too fast to be seen with the naked eye and always appear at the same time (from noon to one pm) above Denver. In my opinion some guy and a TV station camera man just captured secret terrestrial craft on video. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Edward Member
Post Number: 2582 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 11:52 pm: |
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Hi Corey.... Yes, possibly.... Thank you. Edward. |
   
Flaming_pie Member
Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2012
| Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:59 pm: |
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Hi Cory, I agree with both you and Edward, these UFOs are indeed terrestrial. But what is really cool about this newscast is at 3:32-:33 where the reporter says that the man photographing these things thinks they are landing at around 56th & Clay in Denver. Well this is just on the west side of the Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge and the Denver airport. This could easily be connected to the supposed underground complex. Anthony Alagna
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Blake_p Member
Post Number: 37 Registered: 07-2012
| Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 10:15 am: |
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Flaming Pie, first you gotta tell me whats up with your screen name,pretty funny. Yea i would have to agree with you,there are many indications and evidence that they have been tunneling all over the U.S. for the better part of 50 years,especially when you are talking bout interconnecting the western part where you have Area 51,Los Alamos, and many other military complexes in between those areas,plus the ones we dont know about.It would only seem natural that these domestic ufo's would be seen in those secret hot spots. |
   
Flaming_pie Member
Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2012
| Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 02:09 pm: |
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Hi Blake_p, Hahahaha, I'm glad you thought my user name was funny. So why “flaming _pie?” “Everything I do has a simple explanation When I'm with you, you [Figu forum] could do with a vacation I took my brains out and stretched on a rack Now I'm not so sure I'm ever gonna get em back" I like to mess with the moderators by coming up with "overly creative" user names just to buck the system. My favorite over the years has to have been Future_cats. Of all things material, I think I love cats the most. My intention is only to bring a little fun and games to a very serious Figu. I understand that we are living by a thread and that the prophecies could break loose and send mankind into darkness. I get that. I’m just glad you got a laugh out of my silly user name. I know I do. Of course there is a serious side to my new user name. The first reference to “flaming pie” was when John Lennon was quoted in 1961 as saying, "I had a vision that a man came unto us on a flaming pie, and he said, 'You are Beatles with an A.' And so we were." This was more of a joke rather than the true origin for the band's name. But it does seem like a UFO reference to me under the surface. And John Lennon had a famous UFO sighting with his girlfriend May Pang (Interestingly he was married to Yoko Ono at the time and was allowed this polygamous relationship by Yoko.) in August 1974. May explains, a “large, circular object coming towards us. It was shaped like a flattened cone and on top was a large, brilliant red light, not pulsating as on any of the aircraft we’d see heading for a landing at Newark Airport. When it came a little closer, we could make out a row or circle of white lights that ran around the entire rim of the craft — these were also flashing on and off. There were so many of these lights that it was dazzling to the mind. It was, I estimate, about the size of a Lear jet and it was so close that if we had something to throw at it, we probably would have hit it quite easily.” Lennon became quite a UFO enthusiast, putting clues in his songs, but also with statements like, “If the masses started to accept UFOs, it would profoundly affect their attitude towards life, politics, everything. It would threaten the status quo. Whenever people come to realize that there are larger considerations than their own petty lives, they are ripe to make radical changes on a personal level, which would eventually lead to a political revolution in society as a whole.” – John Lennon We learn in the Figu material that the Plejarens send impulses to some people on earth; it is likely that John Lennon was an impulse contactee given his influences on masses of people. Please this is not a claim. This is only my opinion. Want more proof as to why the Plajaren might have been interested in Lennon? John Lennon was openly anti-religious. Lennon created a huge frenzy when he was quoted as saying in March of 1966, "Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first - rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me." And of course as a solo artist, Lennon makes a stab at religion in his music like in the 1970 song “God:” “God is a concept By which we measure Our pain I'll say it again God is a concept By which we measure Our pain I don't believe in magic I don't believe in I-Ching I don't believe in Bible I don't believe in tarot I don't believe in Hitler I don't believe in Jesus I don't believe in Kennedy I don't believe in Buddha I don't believe in mantra I don't believe in Gita I don't believe in yoga I don't believe in kings I don't believe in Elvis I don't believe in Zimmerman I don't believe in Beatles I just believe in me Yoko and me And that's reality” I can find a lot of Figu ideas/concepts throughout John Lennon’s career, along with his UFO history, to be confident to say that Lennon must have been an impulse contactee. Best regards, Anthony Alagna
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Edward Member
Post Number: 2584 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 12:41 am: |
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Hi Corey and Blake_p.... I would agree with you both! It is commonly known, that the US...are copying the 'downed' crafts from the many many last decades, so, that would speak for itself. Area 51, as well as other Areas...have been mentioned in the past, where such projects have come to reality. Thus, Ptaah, just Confirms....WHAT those mentioned countries have been up to...and their crafts can be witnessed in our daily skies!! Edward. |
   
Flaming_pie Member
Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2012
| Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 12:28 pm: |
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Dear Edward, Please clarify your "...US...are copying the 'downed' crafts..." You don't mean extraterrestrial downed craft do you? Because the whole ET reverse engineered craft thing is a scam. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Figu the only true ET crash/event were Roswell and Tunguska. So ET crashes on planet Earth are next to nonexistent. Figu explains that some WWII German scientists received impulse contacts on how to build a flying saucer. The only reverse engineering going on was when the allies captured some of the German technology and tried to make it their own. I would imagine that most UFO crashes are secret test flights gone bad, and to a lesser degree 'enemies' that were shot down. Cheers, Anthony Alagna
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Matt Member
Post Number: 293 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 03:07 pm: |
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Flaming_pie, I doubt very much that John Lennon was a Plejaren ufo contactee. The Beatles and him are not the goodie two shoes that they appear to be. I suggest you read this page, especially the whole "SATANIC ROOTS OF ROCK" article by Donald Phau. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8845.html#POST25542 |
   
Blake_p Member
Post Number: 38 Registered: 07-2012
| Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 03:36 pm: |
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Flaming Pie, thanks for the explanation,i'm definitely an extreme enthusiast of non-sensical humor even though you explained the background thoroughly,very nice. Yea it does seem a bit odd that if they were receptive, a person like John Lennon, who was a very deep,intelligent,thoughtful and maybe, most of all in an extreme position of influence, type of person, that they would some how be included into or made an advocate of the mission for numerous reasons. But also those type of people /personalities carry with them a lot fanatical fans or followers,especially the Beatles so on the other hand it could be counterproductive in many ways too i guess. Keep up the non-sense forever! |
   
Flaming_pie Member
Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2012
| Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 04:34 pm: |
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Hi Matt, Actually iamaphoney has the whole Beatles satanic thing nailed. You respond if I just learned about the Beatles yesterday. Just because the Beatles used some magick techniques in their music does not mean the band members are satanists. The Beatles were into a lot of things, including meditation. The 1960s where a time of experimentation; and religion mostly lost even if it was sloppy at times. Thanks for feedback. Cheers, Anthony Alagna
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