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Mahigitam
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Post Number: 478
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 01:45 am: | 
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SUV, can you or someone else please translate only that part of the text, where Billy talks about King Louis IX..
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 02:01 pm: |
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Perhaps; Bob. Time is the result of matter moving in a spacial environment(Einstein) - creating both gravity, gravity wells, and time-space reference points.
Therefore, "time travel" exists for those who can image the entangled(quantum) position within their own personality block evolution - not necessarily fitting into your description and favored viewpoint.
If you intend that to travel spatially across time dimensions(years, past-present-future) and to re-occur in physical form, repeatably - then perhaps the 'time machine' would be the best method of 'seeing' reality. Any one who follows Creation's laws, and understands them sufficiently and sustainably, can evolve to "travel" in any dimensional space and time; whether made of energy, fine-matter or coarse-matter.
T57
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 05:29 pm: Hi Thomas 57
I have both read about and heard from other people the method you describe and several variations to it; whereby, one goes into a meditative state and has imaginary conversations with a wise being – sometimes taking the form of a past historical figure, like Einstein or Abraham Lincoln; or, other times taking the form of a spirit guide like a “guardian angel” or their “higher self” as is popular in some New Age circles. In your case, you have selected a character you are more comfortable with – yourself. As valid and useful as the technique may be to you, it is technically speaking not time travel. The information or advice you are receiving is available to you now in the present and you yourself are not going to the future to retrieve it nor is your future self traveling back in time to give it to you. It is merely a fanciful form of role playing which allows you to assume a character that is more objective and wiser than you perceive yourself to be now.
Regards
Bob" |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 03:29 pm: |
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Speaking of time, this sentence from Asket's explanations "...First, you will travel back into the year 32 in your time-reckoning, if it is corrected through your statements at a later time, because your present reckoning of time differs by some years compared to reality." made me wonder if such calendar adjustment could indeed happen anytime soon?
The Earth's people would have to agree to the actual birth and identity of Jmmanuel. Everyone would have to acknowledge, that he wasn't born on Christmas eve, etc. Such calendar change, can't simply be accepted but rather has to be supported by evidence and proven beyond doubt. Should then any further discoveries be made in this case?
It is clear now, that Billy, Jitschy and Asket didn't travel back to the current calendar's year 32 but to the 32 of Jmmanuel's age, which would correspond to some years difference in our time reckoning.
Salome |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 471
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 09:35 am: |
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Ferbon, you have a lot to study. And I say this honestly and sincerely 
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 73
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:12 pm: |
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Justsayno
Glad to make you happy. We will be studying for the next 60 million years or so. In this sense I can understand you.Could you make your point more clear to me? Not sure how can anyone else benefit from such responses?
Salome |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 82
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 06:39 am: |
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Now now guys remember what Smoky the Bear always used to say? "Only you... can prevent Forest Fires!"
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Edward
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Post Number: 2523
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 01:16 am: |
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Hi All...
I watched an excellent film some time back called: The Time Traveler's Wife.
[Later came to know it was produced by Brad Pitt; I knew he had such film in
the making but, did not know that this was the film...]
If you get the possibility to watch it, please do so! It is well worth
watching.
It does bring some very interesting insight to Time Travel; in the Present
Time, though, in this case.
Edward. |
Matt
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 04:34 pm: |
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Hi Edward,
I seen that film and thought it was good. I always like a good film with a good storyline! However I didn't noticed that it was produced by Brad Pitt. |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 102
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 05:27 pm: |
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Have you guys seen "Sunshine" from 2007? One of my all time favorites with excellent soundtrack. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 644
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 11:15 am: |
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Yes, seen the movie Sunshine. Liked the theme of the movie based on a voyage to restart our dying sun. Made me wonder - telepathic impulse?
"Death and Rebirth is one of the most crucial parts of life, without one the other simply cannot exist!" - Isabella Poretsis
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Acriasis
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:05 pm: |
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Time will only tell of the true nature of all things. There are many dimensions to be found in the human that truly lives for spirit. One day in a distant time people of Earth will have the ability of cosmic space flight through the power of time, that will allow us to travel millions of light-years in an instant. Perhaps this will not be the case for a few centuries, for there are many people of this world that have not been able to escape the overall negative influence of the untruth, even when the truth is lovingly given to them through vast knowledge, it is scorned or laughed at. This actual truth is only known to a large handful of people, which is disturbing, even after so many decades ago, when the actual truth was brought to us by BEAM and the Plejaren once more. (as the Plejaren said in one of the contact reports it will take about 800 or more years until full realization and complete change to the infrastructure of civilization on Earth)
We are all moving forward in time as the untruth grows larger. Most people don't have the time? to sit down and read something that will be felt throughout the whole of their BEING.
Right now there are people reading about false teachings believing them as truth when the reality is human thought processes are slowing degrading over time spent in untruth and overall negative thinking. There are movies, television shows, indulgent activities, that all seem to keep the humans of earth caught up in the wrong way of thinking without even realizing it.
Time is of the essence to live life to your fullest potential and share with others the knowledge of the actual truth of how life truly is.
For there is only time, slowly slipping away, the thought "oh I will do it tomorrow..." and then tomorrow comes and the next and the next until you forgot all about the truth and are caught up in old behaviors again, how wrong this is, for someone new to the knowledge of the true reality of this world. Time spent in truth reacts to our inner self and causes the forgotten to be remembered, causing transformation of the daily life to be present, and wisdom to be shown in the activities of life of our current incarnation in the time of now.
Saalome,
Marcus
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Time gathers, spirit wonders, body has movement, together as one, a powerful, creational, material force indeed. |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:46 am: |
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Perhaps, someone 'out here' knows of the results of the "Explorers" from TMI(The Monroe Institute)?
From reading and listening to several reports, these individuals 'traveled' into what they labeled 'Focus 15'(non-time state) - repeatably.
Anyone with an opinion? |
Gnostic
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 12:32 pm: |
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What is Billy Meier opinion about Samael Aun Weor, He use to teach about sex or scientist Chastity it look like a good way to controlling over population then, save energy from our body.
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Dear Gnostic, welcome to the forum.
I did a search in all of the Billy Meier material at my disposal and could not find any mention of this person you enquire about.
Please acquaint yourself with the forum ettiquette and guidelines, and make every effort to post in the appropriate topic section, as your above post might have been better placed in a thread related to 'Overpopulation'.
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=instructions#rules
(Message edited by indi on November 30, 2012) |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2599
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 12:48 am: |
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Hi Thomas57....
The Monroe Institute has been discussed, here...in the past. Think, it was
mentioned that CIA, or other intell were involved with it; and, the Plejarans
stamped as: FAKE. Even, up to their Astral Projects, etc.
Please, utilize the Search Engine, if you will, for more details?
Edward. |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 03:03 am: |
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Edward;
Do you have any personal experience with TMI? I utilize the search function very well, thank you; perhaps you'd care to share your expertise with Hemi-sync.
. . . and yes; I am very aware of 1970-80 CIA Stargate team members involvement at TMI. When they used SRV, the 'Gateway Voyage" was a prerequisite in their training. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2607
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 12:35 am: |
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Hi Thomas57....
No, no experience.
Edward. |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 09:19 am: |
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Edward;
In your Post #2599, you mentioned that "CIA, or other intell were involved with it; and, the Plejarans stamped as: FAKE. Even, up to their Astral Projects, etc."
Having used the 'Search' function here, . . . and also in Contact and Bulletins, where have you found the basis for your statement? |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2612
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 02:35 am: |
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Hi Thomas57....
It should be here. It was discussed in the past. I know, it was discussed at
the previous PAR, which is no longer present.
FIGU, gave a detailed description of the Monroe Institute.
CIA, had other projections going, such as Remote Viewing, which was real, as
Billy explained, but....in other cases, there was allot of sham, going on;
just, the American-Russian competition...sort of thing going on at the time.
Both, countries did succeed in certain projects.
Astral Projection, does not exist either, which in reality is nothing more
than - Consciousness Shifting -; please, utilize Search Engine if you are not
yet, familiar with this phenomenon?
Thus, One's Spirit-form or Consciousness DOES NOT....leave the human body, as
even taught by the institute; as well as others.
Edward. |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 30
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 10:00 am: |
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Edward;
There are several references in these blogs - which are under 'Edward', which I'll now assume belong to you. Your statements of using the search engine - bring only 'circular' referencing back to yourself. If you have a FIGU authored statement upon the Monroe Institute, please list its reference - so the rest of us reading here can back-check the 'facts' as you seem to have knowledge of.
All I am seeing/reading(from using the SEARCH functions) are your commentaries - which have no direct reference to to any outside, verifiable source matter - yet you seem to have private knowledge of the fallacy of TMI, the CIA and the FIGU position statements.
All I'm asking is that you place reference links - or actual source data upon your conclusions - which -for now - are unsupported, from what is openly available upon this Forum. Hearsay - is not knowledge, nor verifiable research data.
Have you been to any of the TMI programs? Have you any practical experience with SRV? Have you met others outside of this forum who are guiding/assisting your research of this?
Please, Edward, include reference data for your conclusions - as, for now - those(conclusions) are unsupportable and carry little knowledge and veracity.
Your voluminous postings have a great load of opinion - some seemingly valid positions, but I am NOT finding that which you claim is available from the 'SEARCH' function on this Forum.
AS those from Missouri would proclaim, "Put-up, or Shut-up"("Money Talks, BS walks"!)
NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.  |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 12:59 pm: |
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Before one makes a conclusion on remote viewing, whether it’s true or false, study the books written by those who were actually involved in the CIA Stargate project, people like Lyn Bachanan who wrote the Seventh Sense and others. Then try out their techniques and see if they work or not, just quoting from other sources is not true scientific methods.
However it is very critical to also bear in mind that one’s own mindset is often bias on what results or interaction one will “discover” when dealing with this particular subject which cannot be accurately described in words, it is an experience unique for each person because of the unique attributes each has accordingly to their spiritual evolution and particular “belief system”. For example in the case of Lyn Bachanan who was brought up as a Christian and currently is a minister in that religious field once described having given a set of coordination numbers to remote view and got a feeling of absolute compassion from a being that was later acknowledged as jesus Christ.
From my prospective when I encountered this same jesus Christ as some skinny long haired hippie imposter to go “f^k” himself and return to the creator overlords. I already know for a fact that this imposter does not exist and not influenced by any reference to him or himself as well.
Other remote viewers who were involved in the Stargate project also mentioned a particular US Army major who actually caused allot of trouble to use this for his own personal gain.
So far as I know, there are two methods of remote viewing, one is through actual conscious projection utilizing your “body image” or ether body and relocate to the area of interest, similar to ghostly haunting, but done during sleep or with assistance from a coordinator. However it can also be detected by others sensitive to this method. The other method is more efficient utilizing one’s own Subconscious and accessing it directly. Again it is critical to take a completely neutral stance when doing remote viewing as not to contaminate the emerging events.
It is similar to time travel and can also be influenced if the proper logical energizing methods are used based on one’s particular attributes that are stored in the Subconscious that have links to that particular event in question. So yes, it can be used for both positive or evil purposes and the consequences that are associated in its application. |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 04:15 pm: |
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Thank you, 'Hawaiian'; as your post seems a wee bit more 'logical';
however, the absence of reference materials is still the issue here(on the forum) as relating to "Time" travels, the TMI and SRV(which may-or not be related).
I will check out "Seventh Sense" and Lyn B-, and from what I've learned from materials directly connected to TMI, and 'some' of the Stargate team members, a Maj. E Dames, was involved - though there are several opinions of his activities from former members of that team(F.'S' Atwater, and J McMonigle, a son-in-law to Robert Monroe) and their published works. These two men, I have met personally, and are not the "average" researcher in these subjects. Both have participated and spoke at several TMI 'programs'(week-long exercises in learning the personal abilities to reference altered-states 'realities'(whether or not those are accessible or 'real' to others). Atwater worked- for a time in the brain-mapping portion of the research at TMI, while others were listening to the Hemi-Sync sounds and learning.
As a methodology for consciousness expansion, their exploration/system has been utilized by over 50,000 independently minded people, with repeatable results.
Hawaiian's commentary has been the closest to what I've known through experience, as one of the stumbling block to access is the individual's "beliefs" systems. This was also a result with the SG teams in the 80's.
IMO- There are spurious results listed on this forum that have very little basis in actuality when it comes to TMI, SRV, 'time'-travels; and those of us without a beam-ship/time-machine, that have attempted to personally verify through being invloved in levels of research, regardless of others' uninitiated opinions.
Anecdotal data may be all those have - as that is ALL anyone has. But here is a link to start the removal of gross ignorance in this:
http://www.monroeinstitute.org/ & http://www.monroeinstitute.org/skipatwater/
(although I am not promoting their programs solely as a research reference- only as a data point)
If there be any commentary from official FIGU core members, I'd like to have those reference(s) included.
Seems some here are creating another hierarchical system - without remembering BEAM's commentary to learn for oneself! |
Flaming_pie
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 11-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 05:48 pm: |
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Aloha Hawaiian,
I watched Major Ed Dames remote viewing video course. I found parts of it very interesting and in line with some of the Figu concepts, like controlling the mind, meditation and neutral thinking -- like you said this info has. But then my jaw dropped at the the end of the lecture when Dames based it all on the will of 'Gods' angels and crap.
So even though there is some substance to remote viewing, the problem is that there is a whole lot of RELIGION mixed in. To the Plejaren and Figu, this invalidates them immediately. That is why Billy would say "remote viewing is nonsense," even though there is SOME good ideas in it because of all of the religion mixed in. So if Billy or the Figu where to publicly say, "there is some truth to remote viewing, but it is mostly nonsense." Guess what? Some people would think that Billy says remote viewing is real because they would "know" what parts are bogus. They would think they can see the tiny bits of fruit deep inside the thorn bush. But instead, why not reach for all the fruit trees in the Figu garden of information instead of looking for fruit in the thorn bushes? Studying the spirit teaching and applying it over years can make you very psychic.
Best regards,
Anthony Alagna
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Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 159
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 02:13 am: |
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Thomas57
The great deal of Figu material is preliminary with a lot of CR's translations still not available. Moreover, what is published provides "basic" information to develop one's own sense of what's real and right and to keep your own research's speed and depth of detail adjusted to one's understanding. To be honest, such understanding is stimulated in many areas of science, politics, anatomy, sociology, etc. etc. Just read one CR to realize that the subject/subjects you've picked are quite insignificant to the whole scope and, more importantly, to the whole mission.
As much as I appreciate people speaking from experience, and trying to gather solid facts, you present your understanding in form of a character described in CR's as "idiot" focused on one leaf in the forest of information. Please explain how is your research related to time travel ( on which solid evidence are just not yet available) and why is it so important to know about TMI, SRV and else? How can mankind benefit from your research considering it's in many instances generated by individuals focused on profit or driven by sectarian delusions? I do hope you know that there are tons of deliberate misguidance to get people off their recommended and real goals. In line with problems we must resolve -here and now- like overpopulation and sectarianism as the main reasons of people's suffering and tragedy - your "expertise" may actually be as important as A for a fifth grader. And so in this sense - well done!
Salome |
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