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    Corey Member Post Number: 326 Registered: 12-2009 |
Flaming Pie, Actually in one of the bulletins some years ago, Ptaah explained to Billy that the US, Russia, and some other countries have found downed/crashed ET ships and have been reverse engineering them for awhile. It was pretty big news at the time, and is probably what Edward was referring to. It was on the now defunct Gaiaguys website, so it was probably archived @ FOM, but which one it is specifically I honesty cannot remember, but should be there if you look for it. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Flaming_pie, It also does not mean that the Beatles were not Satanists. The fact is they used and promoted Satan to their fans. They also used and promoted drug use to their fans too. Imo, these are not the type of people that the Plejaren would likely be sending impulses too. THE PLAYBOY INTERVIEW WITH JOHN LENNON AND YOKO ONO: "In 1975, the Lennons became unavailable to the press, and though much speculation has been printed, they emerged to dispel the rumors -- and to cut a new album -- only a couple of months ago. The Lennons decided to speak with Playboy in the longest interview they have ever granted." JOHN LENNON - "We must always remember to thank the CIA and the army for LSD, by the way. That's what people forget. . ." http://www.johnlennon.it/lennon_playboy_interview.htm | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2012 |
Hi Corey, Thanks for the correction. But the Ps have been known to change their stance on UFO cases. I think for a while the Ps were fooled by earth technology. This is evident in the whole "examination contacts" explanation by Billy. Now Billy has changed his stance and now all ET contacts are bunk. But secret terrestrial abductions can be real; and the Ps must have thought these terrestrials where alien for a while. My point is that ETs play a small role in earth technology. The entire UFO community is convinced that UFO=ET so I think you can understand my concern. I would appreciate if we could get a actual Figu quote with a date. Thanks, Anthony Alagna | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 781 Registered: 06-2008 |
"Actually in one of the bulletins some years ago, Ptaah explained to Billy that the US, Russia, and some other countries have found downed/crashed ET ships and have been reverse engineering them for awhile. It was pretty big news at the time, and is probably what Edward was referring to." I also recall that though unable to remember which contact report. I think the figure 6-7 craft overall was mentioned including Roswell. Tanguska doesn't count because no useable remains were left. Cheers. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 232 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hello Billy. It was nice to meet you at the centre in May. I hope all is well with you all. I have already sent you this question by letter but just in case you havn’t received it I will post it here also. I wonder if you can clear something up for me.On the "questions to Billy answered" section on the English forum, archive through June 24, 2012, Joe asked Billy how old his spirit-form is. The reply is 9,600 000 000 (9.6 billion(Milliarden) years old). It then says "Btw. the first human beings developed in our Universe 10 billion(Milliarden) years ago". But in contact 238 page 409 verse 664 Ptaah says that the first high lifeforms were created in the Universe 39,26 trillion (Billionen) years ago. That is quite a difference from 10 billion(Milliarden).In Lehrschrift fuer die Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens on page 95 it says that the Nokodemion spirit-form was the very first to reach the High Council level and then the Arahat Athersata level. Considering that it only takes 40-60 million years for a human spirit –form to reach the High Council level and then a further 56 million years to reach Arahat Athersata level, if the Nokodemion spirit-form was the very first human spirit-form to reach the Arahat Athersata level then it must have arisen closer to 39 trillion(Billionen) years ago otherwise countless human spirit-forms will have reached there before it. Either I have missed something or the numbers are mixed up. Can you please clarify the above information? Salome. Paul. The number “39,26 trillion/billion” is false. Most probably the correct number is 9,26 billion/milliard years. Thank you. (Note by CF: There are other large numbers in the contact reports that are false as well. The differences between the large numbers million, billion and trillion etc. in the spiritual symbols are very hard to differentiate.) Does this mean that Christian Krukowski is wrong when he said that the first hominid life forms were created over 39 trillion years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWWiMm8MJw | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2012 |
Matt, Okay, look at it another way. Hitler was an impulse contactee. And we know that was not a pretty picture. To my knowledge the Beatles never promoted satan to their fans! Lennon and McCartney both were into SOME of the Aleister Crowley magick. From what I can guess Lennon learned about certain techniques of playing records backwards, or talking in reverse in Crowley book "The Law." This was their satanism, that and taking drugs. SCARY? Worshiping the devil? Should be considered bad people? Matt, I have watched lots of videos made by Christians pointing out ram heads, pyramids, UFOs, sculls, pentagrams, etc., in rock n' roll music and how bad it is. Don't you see, we are not religious. I can look at both Christianity and Satanism in a neutral-positive way and learn about them; and even apply some of the ideas if they are in line with the Creational laws and directives. Or that are harmless. I can enjoy listening to records in reverse and I am not a satanist. In fact just for a little fun I'm gonna show you a little Beatles 'spell'.... dead si doG.... Ohhh Ahhh Boooo! And by the way, Dr. Francis Crick was tripping on LSD when he discovered the Double Helix. Anthony Alagna | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 296 Registered: 04-2006 |
Flaming_pie, Hitler was an impulse contactee from bad ET's and not the Plejaren. The Beatles promoted Satan on at least 2 of their Album covers. One album cover had both Lennon and Macartney holding Sadistic finger signs. The second album cover had a number of people on it and one of them was the most famous Satanist Aleister Crowley, also known as "The Great Beast 666" and "the wickedest man in the world". So the Beatles did promote Satan. I'm not saying the Beatles were bad people in any way. I'm just saying their not as squeaky clean as what everyone thinks and makes out they were. One phase of their life they were using drugs and most likely into the occult scene too. They may have also knowingly let themselves be used by negatives forces (CIA) to promote drugs to their fans, coming straight from John Lennon's mouth in the Playboy Magazine interview. I think they may have coerced him to say that but who knows? And who knows who's idea it was for 2 of them to hold up those sadistic finger signs on that album cover as well as the other album with Crowley on it. It could've been their ideas, but again who knows? The fact is those things happened. And there were other things raised in the "Satanic Roots of Rock" article that also didn't make the Beatles look good. I believe it because it all makes sense and because there are facts in there. I believe later on the Beatles matured into good people and really did want to do some good in the world with spreading their peaceful messages and songs at a time of troubles and wars. That still doesn't take away from what they did. Moderators, no need to warn me to please stick to the topic heading as I know I've been off. Hopefully I'm better understood this time. | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 297 Registered: 04-2006 |
Correction, The Beatles were into the occult scene and not most likely as I had just accidently suggested! | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 496 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Anthony, it's not about satan. It's about the Beatle's music that is negative and causes disharmony, as in the music not the lyrics. After listening to a selection of upbeat instrumental music which is more suitable for evolution and doesn't give everyone the eff u attitude that is so prevalent in todays culture, you will notice the difference too. Symbols do cause a difference in thoughts, for example look at a peace sign upside down and then look at it right side up and tell me what you're thoughts are as you look at it both ways. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 132 Registered: 02-2005 |
Has this question been answered? Is the Colonel Corso story accurate and true? That from a downed/crashed UFO, leapfrog advances in technology was achieved through reverse engineering. ie. the modern electronics industry, ie. our silicon valley industry was dependent upon this, all the way back to the transistor? I first came across this kind of story back in the late 90s' or early 2000? from an American Computer website - in which Corso wasn't mentioned, although it was the same kind of story. On something else altogether - I am surpised that people seem to accept that mankind is the order of millions of years old - but we seem to have little info of what human life was like say around 12,000 to 20,000 years ago - and I guess that most people assume that man was primitive for a long period of time before this? Most people probably wouldn't expect the story of Atlantis and Mu to be true, because of no physical or other traceable evidence for it - and for me, the only way to explain the loss of important evidence is that of a worldwide catastrophe that wiped such evidence off the face of the Earth, or buried it as such. And because of say a period of 800,000 years - more than one such event did happen. But then there's the counter argument of - but yet we do have evidence of the dinosaurs - which is from a far earlier period of Earth's history. What are the chances of finding a fossiled citizen of Atlantis or Mu? Harvey | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2012 |
Hi Again Matt, No need to worry about being off topic, my friend. We are indeed talking about the Beatles in a Figu related context. I think you may be mistaken. Hitler was impulsed by the Plejaren. I learned that at a lecture with Guido back in the 90s. And you are mistaken about the "Satanic Finger Signs" picture. That is not an album cover, it's a promo shot. Matt, in your logic. If I wore a cross around my neck for fashion, then I would be a Christian. If I stood in front of a Christmas tree and got my picture taken. I would be accused by you of promoting Christianity. The fact of the matter, and I would consider myself a Beatles historian, and studied this subject far more than you, the "Satanic Finger Signs" done by Lennon & McCartney where nothing more than a trendy way, at the time, to flip off religion and 'God.' Cheers, Anthony Alagna | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2339 Registered: 12-1999 |
From the FOM Website regarding Hitler: “When they travel into or compute the future they can only see the most probable events. The Plejaren are also human being, like you and me and thus are fallible. They did not see the Giza Intelligences aka The Bafath influence Adolf Hitler via the Thule Society early enough to prevent him from going down the wrong path. They monitored him and sent him telepathic impulses for his supposed mission to bring peace to our world but after he was corrupted the telepathic impulses had no effect, and their directives prevented the Plejaren from directly interfering by, for example, assassinating The Bafath and the Thule Society members.” Scott | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2012 |
Hi JSN, I totally agree with you about the symbols. That's why I would never wear a silly cross around my neck or pose in a picture doing the devil thing with my fingers. Even though either one does not influence me, it influences other people. So I get Matt's point. But often people don't realize fully the scope of what they are doing. They just want to be cool. I also agree about rock n' roll being barbaric, especially to the Plejaren. But I'm a barbarian, and so are you. I feel I'm on a spiritual path, and I work hard at it. So I don't feel that listening to rock n' roll, rap or playing violent video games are going to harm me. It may harm someone who is religious and not spiritually strong. That is why the Ps would prefer if we didn't smoke weed and listen to Wiz Khalifa. Earth humans are going to make mistakes, regardless if they are trying to be 'super good' and not do anything wrong. So in my opinion, and I'm not necessarily saying you should do the same as me, everyone should be on their own path, but I don't mind being a little barbarian, as a devoted person on a spiritual path learning about Creation. Best regards, Anthony Alagna | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 05-2012 |
Scott Exactly. And the same happened with assassination attempt on pope JP II. They said he will surely be killed but the shooter slipped or got pushed or something...So it could always be true that even world-turning events can be decided by chance and are impossible to calculate with absolute certainty. The Bafath could affect Hitler directly or indirectly causing him to slip many times and end up on the path of destruction. It is quite comforting they are not around anymore. Salome | ||
Jose_barreto_silva Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2012 |
Matt, Please download and read this document http://archive.org/details/ANTILOGOS-666Jesus_is_Lucifer_666_Jesus_is_the_Antilogos-666 Jesus Yahshua Y'hoshua Christ is the messager of Hell on Earth. Jesus Y'hoshua Christ is truly the child of evil, the child of ruin, Jesus Christ is the deadly opponent against knowledge, wisdom and truth, and the opponent against love, peace, respect and harmony. It is the Anti-Logos in manifold form. It is the force of evil, the 666, which is against the truth of Creation, against the truth of the Spirit and against the obedience to the laws and commandments. ! http://archive.org/details/ANTILOGOS-666Jesus_is_Lucifer_666_Jesus_is_the_Antilogos-666 | ||
Acriasis Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 08-2012 |
Hello all, A reference at this link: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_045#section_2 Speaks of the above post in more detail as well as the name Jesus Christ is also found from its true origins with Jmmanuel here near the end of this explanation: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_6 -Saalome- ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Assume not into belief, but realize truth and know of the beauty of life within the creational, and the whole of your BEING shall be truly free. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2600 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott and All.... Correct. Think, Billy also mentioned the Thule Society had Face-To-Face contact with the Gizas. Which, occurs very rarely. Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2601 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Guys.... Billy, did once mention, that bands like Satanic Metal, Black Metal, Death Metal, etc...were the result of our OWN Christianity!! They, just Rebel, just like any other groups/movements would, as we look around us. Thus, such groups just have a great dislike for all that Christianity... stands for. So, you can't blame'em, no??? Not...my kind of music, though...but, I understand their point of view, yes. Plain old: Consequences - Cause and Effect. If you want to read more about this subject, just utilize the Search Engine? This has been discussed in details.... Edward. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 212 Registered: 09-2011 |
The religion does not make the people... The people make the religion. The myths that are emphasized in Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, and Judaism are a function of the collective propensities of the people who prop up their cultures with religions. Satanists are the sortsa people who need to rebel against whatever cultural paradigm they live in. Life | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2012 |
Here is a good example of how the Beatles anti-religion has panned out over the long run and inspired others. Noel Gallagher is/has been majorly inspired by John Lennon and the Beatles. Religion and 'God' are losing thanks to rock n' roll.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-xDysmNuPE Anthony Alagna | ||
Kiwilove Member Post Number: 133 Registered: 02-2005 |
Religions are always brainwashing systems put into place, taking away peoples' personal power and independence distorting their view of the universe, etc etc towards a false perspective. Full stop. There is a Christian digital TV channel here which promotes the typical Christian view, that the Bible, is 100% accurate and true, etc etc - and everything they say revolves around that. Different religions take the same perspective - their own, and they will never admit they are in error, especially their thinking. True knowledge is revealed in different spheres - how they correlate and confirm each other in so many different ways. With religion(s) if you apply your critical thinking to what they say, and treat it seriously as such - you have no choice but to conclude, their words become meaningless and have no substance, simply because they (their theories, etc etc) cannot be mapped upon this real world in which we all live. That their theories, etc etc lie in the human imagination. We all need confirmation of that which is true - and where physical evidence is lacking, there should be at least be logic and reason, proof of logic in what they say. When they tell a very inconsistent and illogical story, in their theories and ideas, etc - you know it cannot be true at all, and makes for a very crazy universe, etc etc. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2606 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Michaelhelfert.... Satan, is not really a bad word/name....it only refers to Adversary, in old Hebrew, if I remember it correctly. Thus, anything or person who represents Satan, just means: (s)he is your/ one's Adversary. Not, like those Cult Religions belief: you/one, being some sort of Monster or Beast or Bogeyman, etc. This, is just Cult Religion....interpretation, due to their own Ignorance. Edward. | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2012 |
Hi Edward, Wasn't satan or the devil actually a horned extraterrestrial according to the Figu info? You know something like the Darth Maul character from "Star Wars." I searched around and couldn't find it but I thought that I remember it from somewhere. Cheers, Anthony Alagna |
