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Votan
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 01:59 pm: | 
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Blake-p
I agree. Indi obviously we all have different perspective of what constitutes unnecessary attitude.
joe
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 04:06 am: |
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G'day Votan
its not my site, many suppliers are on ebay
the one you mention sounds correct
here is a link to ebay search
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=Acupuncture+Body+Massager&_sacat=0&_from=R40
try other search words if need be
photo is attached
get more of the pads: 20PCS NEW ACUPUNCTURE MACHINE PADS FOR FULL BODY MASSAGER
i really dig this machine mate
Salome
ilovebilly
(Message edited by indi on January 05, 2013)
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 819
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 10:46 am: |
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Hello , ilovebilly ;
The posting of advertised products are not allowed on the forum , and our moderators are not able at all times to tend to it all , therfore I have chosen to take the initiative to inform you of this out of respect for all the forum viewers as well as management . I hope this doesn't appear to be a reprimand of any kind .
......and now , the image of dancing polar bears being watched by sitting panda bears eating popcorn , by the sea . |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 196
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 07:00 am: |
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Ilovebilly
you're breaking rules of this forum trying to sell crap. It is not the first time and if you continue I encourage moderators to cancel your account. |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 697
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 03:27 am: |
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There have been no rules broken. Ilovebilly was just letting an interested person know where to go to get something. He was not selling them, or hoping to gain any profit from telling others.
Although, this might not be the correct topic to place this in - unless it is tied in with a discussion about acupuncture from the Figu material.
Salome
Robyn
Denken Sie für sich selbst!
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 56
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 11:21 pm: |
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Ferbon
Be real, I actually liked what she is trying to sell. Is it crap? If it works for $8.79 why not.
Please lighten up ,there is too much negative expressions in the world without you adding to it.
We are on this site to learn and help not to criticise.
What site should Ferbon go to( advertise) and not to help.
I am willing to try the product. Thank You
joe
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Matt
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Post Number: 303
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 09:48 pm: |
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Ferbon, I think that's a bit harsh to suggest. |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 197
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 04:35 am: |
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Indi
Ilovebilly, has been letting know "interested person" where to go get something fourth time or more...Each time these are different products with detailed descriptions. There are professions which simply "direct" people somewhere to gain percentage profit from someone's sales. If this behavior is so harmless why didn't they exchanged emails after the first friendly "letting know about the product"?
There are many "loopholes" if you take this sort of thing "on faith" that no harm is being done.
Votan - take his/her email? what do you think?
Salome |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 57
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 08:28 pm: |
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Thanks Ferbon.
You trust people on face value. I suppose at $8.49 it is too cheap.
joe
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Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 05:34 pm: |
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Indi,
i agree that if i had a problem with somebodies response then i should find a more constructive way to address the issue, replying with sarcasm and or condescension brings forth divisiveness and negative feelings towards one another,which is unbecoming of a person who wants to truly live by the spiritual teaching. While i'm not sorry that i said it because i dont get much time here and want to use it,most of the time,as constructively as possible to ask questions or learn something new, it gets frustrating to have to address posts that only pick out certain parts of your points or had nothing to do with the idea presented, and to be honest there are a lot of know it alls who love to correct people,which gets tiring.So my apologies to the people i addressed if you were in any way offended or put off. |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 137
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 04:19 am: |
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G'day folks
Markcampbell yes i know you well enough from the forum to know you are compassionate and understanding, the moderators miss nothing though mate ;) nothing
The mods know i am not selling anything, with basic web knowledge its apparent the link is to ebay and MANY Chinese sellers, an ozzy would need to sell em for at least $30 to bother
Ferbon i understand your concern, let me explain further, the link is to ebay with the search term (Acupuncture Body Massager) it shows many sellers (from China for under $10), its my opinion its an exciting product related to Beams teaching well worth bringing to figu's attention, i am using it so am talking from experience
Its inexpensive too, probably as its mass produced (for/by Chinese) who know it works so sell them in millions and millions in China, you can buy it for $30 or $50 if you prefer but on ebay its from China mate ;)
i am in no way involved in the machines manufacture or sales in any way, i recommend it as i have used it and know its important, gee if i wanted to sell something i can do WAY better than 8.49 mate
(((Acupuncture use is at least 20 million years old, i think it was done with needles when they had no batteries for their machine eh eh))) Honest i do.
I think Beam should have one also, i think i will send Beam a few or can a mod organise 2 for Beam? as it takes a while to receive then resend them
Votan
How can you take it at face value when you have never used it and at 8.49 delivered mate! cant hurt to try 
Most of all i would not dare sell something for profit on any figu website, not ever. The mods know i am keen and would not do that, I mentioned it because its important and i want the tech known/considered by figu folk, I consider this long lost important health tech that empowers the layman to become proficient in acupuncture in a very short time at lowest cost imaginable
i think some info we have been given is not being implemented or noticed fast enough among figu folk and i wanted to be sure the acupuncture is noted and am happy it has, even if i create a stir
honestly at 8.49 i wouldnt even package/mail it for that, from oz it will cost at least $30 from ebay, a shop/store more like $50
Happy New Age Folks, remember we decide what affects us, nobody else! Every cloud has a silver lining.
(Beam once said Excessive scrutiny is as dangerous as excessive gullibility/trust)
I Love You Billy! and the Plejaren! I am eternally grateful to you.
Salome
ilovebilly
Live Long and Prosper ;)
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 138
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 06:10 am: |
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Another thing thats important/exciting about acupuncture
Beam mentions something really VERY special acupuncture does, Beam says it will raise your evolution level
i read it either in the contact notes or Answers from Billy in the Questions to Billy section/forum
i dont know where you are meant to put the electrodes to achieve this yet but i will meditating/ponder it and test different acupuncture points
if anyone knows please let me know
#1 point is the pineal so its most likely one of the points
the old electrode pads that dont stick are good for the head as new pads work too well and it hurts, so older pads that dont stick like glue are useful dont chuck em, i have short hair cut 0 with clippers so with long hair maybe use newer pads
the instructions that come with the machine say its ok to use on the head and i am still alive but with new pads and short hair it hurts so i use old pads that i dropped on a tissue to make less conductive
good info on the net about acupuncture points is easy to find
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 09:28 am: |
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Exerpts from Contact 544 Sept 1,2012
Ptaah That could be so, but also to consider is that which the Obama followers will do next and which internal and external policies they pursue, because this will also determine that which will happen after 2020.
Billy Aha, then you have thereby, in a certain way, also given me lesson, which, in this regard, was certainly good. But against your advice, I then made an effort, in the USA, to bring interested American people to their feet in a FIGU group, but then which also failed, and indeed four times up until now. It has unfortunately been proven that most human beings in America do not understand what a democratic stance actually is, and that a FIGU group can only consist, and must exist, in a democratic manner. Constantly, a ruling, dirigent and dictatorial behaviour was brought to the fore, but this was, and is, absolutely unacceptable, for which reason we had the Core Group dissolve the corresponding US American groups again. Obviously it does not appear to be understood that no class differences can be permitted in a FIGU democracy and that resolutions are not permitted to be made and carried out by individual practitioners of power in a group, rather solely by the bulk of the group members. There are no class differences in a democracy, because it is determined solely by the mass of the majority. Actually, in the FIGU Core Group, we are still a very big step further, because, with us, our democracy has elevated such that resolutions are only valid if an absolute unanimity of all Core Group members is given. Apparently, however, in the USA – as unfortunately also in other countries – the human beings are not clear what democracy actually means and that a true community can really only exist in peace, freedom, harmony, and in equality, equal rights and equal values. Naturally, in the US and in all other countries of the world, there are many human beings involved in the “Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of Life”, that is to say, the “Spirit Teaching”, who are interested and would like to have a FIGU group in their own country, but that can effectively only be possible if such a grouping is managed and led in compliance with the FIGU democracy. I would also wish that for the USA, even if, resulting from the lack of understanding, the majority of American people do not demonstrate pleasure to you in relation to the understanding of freedom, peace, harmony and democracy. But also the human beings in the USA can learn, and indeed there is a significant number who are interested in the teaching and are also making an effort to pay attention to the mission and teaching, live moderately, behaving in compliance with FIGU rules and the creational-natural laws and recommendations, and to thereby to get a thus aligned group on its feet. But this is unfortunately not easy, because many personal – and also fellow human and administrative – difficulties must be overcome, whereby the personal problems are well the largest and most comprehensive, and indeed specifically in terms of their own proper behaviour towards their fellow human beings and accepting the comprehensive democratic attitude and leadership of a FIGU group.
Ptaah Your opinion honours you, but you have yours and we have ours, whereby ours has come true. But we will be happy to be surprised and taught, which can perhaps indeed become possible if human beings in the USA who are interested in the teaching and the mission still do free themselves of their erroneous views, opinions and attitudes, and so forth, and can fit themselves into the rules of FIGU.
Billy A small number of persons are trying really very hard to form a good FIGU group in the USA. So there are also really good people over there who try very hard. If I thereby think solely of Michael Horn, who has already worked for so many years for the teaching and the mission, he and his work cannot be highly enough estimated. Indeed, all human beings need not exist within his tireless context of effects, because a lesser commitment is already very valuable, and such a one can achieve much in America. However, these correspond only to a minority, but if they engage themselves, then much can be achieved through them. A small number of human beings can also achieve much and bring, in many others, change for the better and good, if they make an effort. How does it go? Constant dripping wears away the stone. Considered in the sense that everything unloving, evil, unpeaceful and disharmonious, wrong and illiberal, as well as any violence, addiction to rule and addiction to might, every hatred, every revenge as well as every addiction to retaliation, will, in the same way, be worn down to the ground, as well as everything dictatorial and which harms life and limb.
Ptaah There is nothing there with which to argue, because your words correspond to reality. This, however, changes nothing in our attitude. If, in relation to the human beings and the behaviour of the American people, something changes for the better, for good and right, then we will also change our opinion. But we are very pleased regarding the ongoing efforts for many years by Michael Horn, whereby he has provided extraordinary services, which are of inestimable value. While we acknowledge the efforts of all those people in the USA who tried for decades to form a FIGU group and also made an effort in terms of learning the spiritual teaching, unfortunately they have not achieved the objectives they claimed they wanted to achieve.
Billy That which does not yet exist can always still come into being. Actually, it must indeed be said, and you also know it, that from my side, for several years already, no further efforts succeed in relation to the formation of a FIGU group in the USA. The contact with a still loose group which – after the dissolution of the Florida FIGU group by the Core Group, has newly formed itself and at least currently cannot yet be designated as an official FIGU group – is held up only by Philia and Christian. Time will tell what results from this group someday. You do know what has emerged from the FIGU-Japan-national group, so that the Core Group also had to dissolve that, because also there the leadership of the group dared to set itself up hierarchically and exercise their might over the members. A transitional group is forming itself there which must be officially regulated in accordance with the laws of Japan. Additionally, I now think that this new FIGU group in Japan will elect persons who have integrity and do the right thing – it is to so hope. It is also good that we have Kunio Uchida with us, who is capable of making telephone contact in his native language about certain things at a moment’s notice regarding the concerns of our Core Group with respect to the new Japan-group. Frau Strasser-Kono is still responsible for the written concerns related to translations in the Japanese language, whereby Simone and Stephan lead the correspondence with the people in Japan regarding the Core Group’s resolutions.
After reading this, and also Billy and Ptaah talking about the dissolution of the U.S. by the year 2020,obviously only 8 years away,and also the mention that we could end up as a dictatorship; Anybody want to seriously get together and at least start talking about what we could do to form a FIGU U.S., it may take some time overall but i know the longer we wait the longer it's gonna take! |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 203
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 05:21 am: |
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My first impression after reading is that there can not be any "hierarchy" in the structure of the group but relations based on equality and democracy and logic. That would also mean that nobody is "favorite" or an "authority" but simply states arguments/thoughts/opinions which are debated further and from which anyone can deliberate what's necessary for him/her and ask questions necessary for him/her to understand clearly what is being said/meant. Dissolved and reformed groups could be a statement that nothing is being done/build just to exist - but to be better/useful for others/evolving in the right way. Being selfish could also theoretically slow down the process of unity and understanding of this group under the American flag.
Salome |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 239
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:09 am: |
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Yes Blake, even after reading that, and rereading it, and reading it again just to make sure, there are some people who still would like to get together to build a FIGU community in the US. We have all made mistakes in this regard, or at least I can see some of the mistakes I have made here, but still it is a worthwhile project to re-initialize. There are a number of things to be gained by establishing a group in the US - most apposite a FIGU community in which to weather rough times and from which to launch gentle attempts to re-civilize the US.
Life
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 04:09 am: |
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Scott
Billy stated after his passing,the Plejarens will withdraw from earth.
Can they trust us not to blow up earth and therefore upset the whole universe.
Tesla once made a comment that he had the technology to crack the earth in two and even the universe. I wonder what he meant.
joe
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Corey
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Post Number: 348
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 08:45 am: |
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http://theyflyblog.com/the-future-of-america-obama-and-asteroid-apophis/01/10/2013
It was pretty clear that according to Ptaah's probability calculations, the US could come to an end by 2020, but some of that rests on what Obama's followers do in the meantime.
Good advice for a future pending US FIGU group. It's clear we don't understand a what a true democracy is because the US is not a true democracy, it's something we have to fiqure out so a future pending US FIGU group can succeed (flourish).
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 304
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 01:11 pm: |
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It's nice to see the Plejaren acknowledging the good work Micheal Horn is doing. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2359
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 06:31 pm: |
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Votan,
I think the possibility exists that this planet may be monitored, although contacts with Billy will cease. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2648
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 12:31 am: |
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Hi Scott....
I think so, too.
Telemeters Discs, would be the solution to that. If not through anyone group
of the Federation. And, they could as well monitor the 'thoughts' of
individuals; to keep them updated.
After the Giza Boys (and other Renegades) undetectedly managed to enter
Earth's atmosphere...and cause all sorts of mayhem, etc., obviously,
they(Plejarans) would not let such occur, again. They underestimated the Giza
Boys (and other Renegades), back then. When they knew, they repeatedly
entered into Earth's atmosphere in the past many-a-times, in the past history
of Earthman. Such, could still be the case with other ETs whom have the same
ideas as the Giza Boys, etc....; so, I think the Plejarans have learned a
lessen from this all; and not repeat such scenario.
Edward. |
Kiwilove
Member
Post Number: 134
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 11:22 am: |
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Going by the worldwide entertainment industry - rarely do we see the promotion of sound basic human values, as in the simple universal laws we are all subjected to - presented. But rather the entertainment industry and it's writers are locked into the one life, one personality thinking and limitation - and even then, we rarely see a frank and clear look at this reality in which we all live.
Too often the erroneous view of 'God' is promoted as being fact and there is never any questioning about this, or the incongruity and inconsistancies it contains. Let alone any substantiation for any of it's claims.
Anyway always red herrings are presented, which divert the public about real issues that need addressing - which Billy Meier stands alone, in revealing to us - sound basic common sense in which we are our own worst enemy because of being so ignorant, uninformed - little caring for anything else but ourselves.
The US has never led the world to any kind of lasting peace and cooperation, but have always ended up with doing the opposite. Even back in the days when the first atomic bomb was being developed - the people behind building the bomb wanted a public demonstration of it first, before being unleashed to kill tens of thousands of civilians, etc. But their wishes were denied, because the political power, or rather the military did not want such a delay in the practical use of their weapon. Meaning the nuclear arms race was never one of deterrent, but is a practical system to be used. And if used, will merely demonstrate the insanity of the world's leaders and politicians, etc.
Anyway - all of these kind of issues should be available to the public, so that they are always informed and educated, as to how things really are. The last thing we want is another world war - and we should recognise the signs when this is likely - and to put measures in place, so that it can never happen again?
Harvey |
Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 71
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:48 pm: |
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Thanks to Ferbon who replied both times, La Flama El Pie-aka Flaming Pie who responded to my last post regarding this issue and MichaelHelfert;
Yea Michael i completely agree that much is to be learned from that mouthful in that contact.I personally would like to inquire,through the people specifically, about the last Figu U.S. group that tried to establish themselves so to hopefully learn what hardships they went through trying to get everything going,whether they be interpersonal,geographical,monetary and so forth. I think that would be a beneficial starting point and also to learn from past mistakes as so not to repeat them.
Michael Horn had a good point,which would be to get together,form a plan of strategy,put it on paper and try and execute from there. My personal goal is to go to the SSSC in the next few months,see what ideas that Billy,Christian,and any other CG49 members that i run into have to include.Then obviously bring them back here,get what people together i can who are serious about making something happen and see if it is feasible task to undertake. All i know is that not making every effort i can to do so will be something i will regret forever, so in that sense i'm not scared to fail but am very scared of looking back and thinking, what if. Even Billy said that even a small group can indeed make a big difference,kind of like how a small rock can still create ripples that permeate all the way across a large pond.
So in the essence of what Billy was expressing about being a true democracy,please if anyone else has any input,don't hesitate to make yourself heard,it all helps. And any of those people who have already stated interest,get at me,whether by email,phone,or what i think would be cool to head across the pond on a trip. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 66
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 01:59 pm: |
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Scott
Has Billy said anything about Nikola Tesla.
joe
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