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    Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 157 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Folks i love you all and i have a concern i want to get of my chest i am a bit concerned negative forces are picked up somehow and we dont implement what we have been taught by Beam and our mates when i was doing post 156 i felt my aggression all of a sudden go way way beyond acceptable and i dont have a reason for it, i have had it under control for quite a while now. i could be wrong but in any case please consider doing this often (((or if the aggression gene is kicking in))) eh ehj ;) 1. Mein Geist German mp3 is downloaded here http://ca.figu.org/Audio_Clips.html to copy the mp3 to hard drive right click and save link on the above page, i play it often and if i sense myself going astray. 2.Then Shield yourself in meditation 3. Tell all negative forces to get lost and imagine the negatives flying into space with great force. 4. I ask my spirit to remember for eternity the teaching of Nokodemjon and The Creations natural laws and recommendations and I ask my spirit to live by Creations laws and recommendations. 5. Listen to this for 20 mins, its real easy to do Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcU57tAKzng 6. look at things as a third party, like you are an observer 7. understand that for us aggressive Terran's the teaching needs time to sink in and to get over the shock of the past and future, i was not happy and nearly lost the plot, be patient with them, it was like 12 months or a bit less for me so its not overnight. Be like Kirk and Spock as One ;) As Lenny says i am you and you are me Beam says excessive scrutiny is as dangerous as excessive trust, we need to use our philosophers stone and WE WILL Beam cant tell us everything, we will travel/know the whole universe then discover its our mind thats deeper and more of a mystery, or we can discover that now. Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 158 Registered: 04-2011 |
No need to do all 7 points if in a hurry The important ones to do are 1. Mein Geist German mp3 is downloaded here http://ca.figu.org/Audio_Clips.html to copy the mp3 to hard drive right click and save link on the above page, i play it often and if i sense myself going astray. 2.Then Shield yourself in meditation 3. Tell all negative forces to get lost and imagine the negatives flying into space with great force. 4. I ask my spirit to remember for eternity the teaching of Nokodemjon and The Creations natural laws and recommendations and I ask my spirit to live by Creations laws and recommendations. Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hawaiian Thanks for your kind remarks. People like Ferbon do not worry me as they seem to have set views and you will never change that. You and I look into things in more detail and use our instincts regardless of what could be the truth. joe | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 309 Registered: 04-2006 |
Instincts over truth? That makes good sense! And I thought truth comes before anything else. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Scott I hope that this is the right place to ask about the Burka. Is it true that Mohamed did not say that women should wear this full body suit. It was designed to cover up during sand storms in the desert and the extremists used it to generate trouble for women. joe | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2011 |
Matt Read it carefully ,I said what could be the truth and not what is the truth. I have never doubted his knowledge,it is just that we are fed a lot of information and it is up to us how we decipher that info. Also unless we see it ourselves in this physical world it takes a lot to believe. Have we not been fed a lot of rubbish about religion. joe | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 218 Registered: 05-2012 |
Votan You clearly warned me about something saying" not to believe everything I read". Providing we are discussing Meier's material - I am wandering what you meant by that. Could you specify? Not sure where did you get an idea that I or anybody else on this forum might actually be carelessly believing in random stuff people throw at us. Anyhow you decided to publish a warning. Now, I am simply curious since we have previously analyzed some cases of skeptics that Michael dude was trying to debate with. I despise liars or swindlers and so I am also genuinely interested in factual criticism of Meier's case. You said he is not to be trusted with life/death transition because he is a human. Is there anything else your warning was referring to? Salome | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 04-2006 |
Votan, There is a big difference between the Meier material/case and religions. One has many category's of proof, the others (religions) have no proof whatsoever. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2011 |
Ferbon I said do not go blindly into everything, analyse it first and keep a open mind. joe | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 356 Registered: 12-2009 |
Belief-delusion (in a religious sense) constricts, strangles, and destroys rationality and intellect*. Billy refers to rationality and intellect as necessary to have compliance with the laws and recommendations of Creation in so many of his books. Having compliance with Creation, you can develop the high values and develop into a true human being. There are times when the myriad of information offered by Billy is far from what we have been taught by (other) terrestrial sources, upbringing and educations, and there are times where you just have to take Billy at his word, based on all the other corroborations that have been done, and make cognitions about those things later on as time unfolds, and you develop further, and you realize Billy was probably right. Cognitions can help develop absolute fulfillment, which is quite different then blindly following something. Most people dabbled in new age and other esorotic possibly religion, on their path to the truth, so one has to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff, consulting Billy's texts directly is probably the best way to go about doing that. It's like any other school, and yes there is heavy terminology and concepts but it's not like a religion. * pg 131 of God-delusion and God-insanity by BEAM Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 165 Registered: 04-2011 |
Star wars words of wisdom: Ignore your instincts at your peril. Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 07-2012 |
Corey, well put. All i will add is that if you believe that Billy is who he says he is then; he is enlivened by the oldest, most knowledgable spiritual lineage in the universe,the very first one to evolve to reach the plane of Arat Athersata and bear the responsibility of the one spiritual lineage that is to teach the creational laws and reccomendations throughout the universe,and also he was taught by Sfath,who was at the level of Srut,which i know Ptaah and Quetzal are now also but are not as far along as Sfath was, That Billy can tap into the oldest storage banks in the universe,and that through that responsibility as being the last prophet of our planet,cannot tell an untruth. I guess after that i would have to take Billy's words as the most valid i could put my trust in. Ferb- you are very intelligent,well spoken person,anyone should be able to tell that from your words, but remember that you are at the epicenter of a lot of verbal tennis matches,which can be constructive but many times are not,which i am guilty of myself sometimes,so i am not trying to dicipline u, nor trying to be some moral authority,but simply point out that sometimes just let it go and fall by the wayside even if it is addressed towards you. In my humble opinion,this cannot be just about doing it for ourselves but affecting the world around us in a positive way,especially here, where we are a small group,so continuity and togetherness should be paramount. Just a thought,take it or leave it. | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 219 Registered: 05-2012 |
Blake_p You worry too much. Notice, that as a race we haven't been nowhere near unity nor peace for thousands of years. Don't be disappointed while studying what usually happens to peace loving people of our times like Gandhi, Lennon, Dr. King, and many more. Moreover, we are heading straight for the cliff's edge with current birth rate. In 30 years water can be more praised than human life, oceans level will be 4 feet higher, global starvation and famine will no longer be only possibility and we are likely to be hit by asteroid about the size of a stadium. All that in our lifetime. It was Semjase who said that nuclear threat and overpopulation catastrophe should be announced from the rooftops. Despite your flowers I haven't done anything to warn people about upcoming dangers. I haven't published anything, didn't call the radio or spoke on TV. Many individuals I know are still in pursuit of money or fame before they realize it was all for nothing. Many of them are religion slaves expecting help from god, ready to fight for symbol of faith, flag,political system. I haven't convinced them to stop. They have no clue about Meier's existence and laugh at UFO's thus can only reflect through facts and statistics...maybe science. In this present colorful and polluted world that nobody from the future gives a rat's ass about - show me togetherness you are trying to cling on to my friend. Somebody was ready to kill BEAM 17 times and we have been on the brink of WW4 since 2004. Being nice isn't exactly what can help people in the future. I strongly doubt we can help them now. Salome | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 514 Registered: 10-2009 |
I don't know about that Ferbon, everyone I talk to seems to have an open mind about ufos and also seem to have seen one at some point. Mind you, I do this one on one so they don't have to look stupid in front of their friends. I got into a debate at the post office with the guy who owns the creation museum last week. I held my tongue until he said there was no evidence of an asteroid hitting the Gulf of Mexico. Upon parting I told him all our ills can be traced back to overpopulation. Then he started spewing the go forth and multiply mantra. Really I asked him, then why haven't you done that? No woman would have him he said. And that was really the most truth he said during the whole conversation. I find that people often tell me things I've told them years ago, advice on their problems, lives, finances etc. The mission works in much the same way. Even though they may not give a crap about it now, someday they will think long and hard about what you said. Don't ever forget that you have an impact on those around you. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 07-2012 |
Ferbon- Really i agree with your points,even if they are pretty pessimistic,which in this day,sadly are most of the time a reality at the same time. I will simply say this,If your not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. We are here not only to learn on so many different levels through the spiritual teaching and Billy's words,but to be a part of the mission to me is to make a difference,from the smallest levels to the biggest that our lives can offer. One of my biggest frustrations in life has been not only to be not able to get through to people but,even worse,to completely get through to people,see that lightbulb go off above peoples heads through those realizations but then to have them make no change for the better whatsoever. Even Billy has said many times that even a single person or a small group can make a big difference. All i know is that i refuse to do nothing, because from nothing comes from nothing,even if i can't make the effect that i would like,and the world to change, my effort over time will eventually be systemic. Can't give up on everybody homie. By the way ,what i was talking about was u being at the epicenter of a lot of verbal tennis matches,which are unproductive,and the need to always retort and or be right is just ego. So if you cause arguements then you are actually the catalyst for the thing in which you are admonishing about the world. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 177 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Ferbon re: peace loving people of our times like Gandhi, Lennon, Dr. King, and many more who wants to die an old man in bed anyway over a good cause that helps so many Gandi and King for example knew they wouldn't die of old age in bed, they just reincarnate and do it again and again and look at what 1 man can do! Beam probably hasnt died in bed for eons i dont worry what other people do, we just left the age of faith so most people are raving mad/deluded (its funny so many % wise are bonkers) but they will come out of the madness sooner or later, the Truth will get them in the next life or the next, resistance is futile ;) i love that saying We can look at the bad things, but dont forget the good things so you have balance, some bad things can overpower thoughts if we let them, like harrp got me going WE decide what affects us nobody else i dont recall where i found this,somewhere on figu: The really spiritually-striving one is a noble artist. Of tender spirit, gentle nature, full of love, knowledge, wisdom and great sense, he has the highest sensitivity for truth, balance, beauty and spiritual progress. His life is controlled, refined and exalted, and his perspectives are very far. His entire sense is magnanimous, and beauty expresses itself in his plain life, full of spiritual dignity. His inner stillness brings a beauty that no artist can paint and no poet is able to describe in words. Is this You. We need to decide what we want to be and make it so. Semjase said: The Spirit stands outside of time, there is a continuity of the Spirit during every incarnation which bridges all times. All lifetimes of the Spirit are integrated by the Spirit in the endless NOW of Creation. Wisdom is carried forward to Creation as the Spirit Evolves. We are truly unstoppable mate if you only consider this life it can seem daunting but we never die mate, fear nothing it blocks your powers in so many ways I honestly think you are at the stage now where you need to tell The Creation how you feel, also importantly what you want, you can do this but dont hold its name in disrespect (i know you wont be silly) just sit down one night and let it flow with gusto! After i had my moment of madness with The Creation things changed, Let The Creation feeeeel you, let your energy flow The reason we come to the material realm is to learn, be forged. We are getting forged real hot n hard, we can evolve fast from these problems, its what problems are for, when we have a problem its important the way we handle it is evolutionary, let me stress: its important the way we handle it is evolutionary Beam says our Spirit sees its life to be before we where born and we agree it was very hard reading the Truth and its upto us to find a way forward, we decide what affects us nobody else, when i say that it dosnt mean dont ask for help where and when its needed, i know its harder to ask for help than it is to give help i normally send people here 1st so they get a bit of strength before they hit the past/future stuff http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Spirit_Teaching and meditation section on figu, plus the talkativeness section if they go straight to the past/future stuff first its HARD to swallow i know, you need to look for the good stuff now If we suicide we get groundhog day e.g. we cant escape doing evolution we need also important: the meditation links on figu.org especially the 77 and Mein Geist, do them daily for a while if any of you arnt doing the meditation links on figu.org often you are missing out on important consciousness stuff, it dosnt take long just looks like it will and needs to be done regularly for good effect Most of all We get what we deserve, its just cause and effect, most of the planet is deluded atm so it wont be pretty (( importantly we need Reverence and Venerability for good and bad as the same)) we get more evolution from bad so consider its the same as good Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 04-2011 |
From ADAM to OMEDAM From the very first moment, the human is the carrier of a piece of Creation, a immortal, never sleeping, never resting Spirit form, but before he can recognize his true self, his endless, limitless, and infinite Spiritform, he needs to understand the ending, limited, and finite material world. First he need to learn about the Earthly-Material before he can learn about the Creative-Spiritual part of life. A human is born as Adam (A=Alpha/First/Material/Earth DAM=Fulfillment), which means that he is a Earth human, a First-human. Everybody starts as a First-Human, as Adam, in order to fulfill the Natural Creative Law that everything evolves from the outside towards the inside, first, a human has to be material, develop his abilities to live in the material, develop his consciousness and intellect, when this is done, then he can undertake the transformation to OMEDAM (OM = Law E=and DAM=Fulfillment) The First-human needs to understand first about the limited, ending and finite material world. The limited, ending and finite world is his workplace, his place to make mistakes and his path of self recognition, recognition that his essence, which lives in himself as a infinite, endless and limitless entity, his Spirit. By learning about the ending, limited and finite reality of the material realm, he begins to recognize the endless, unlimited and infinite reality of Creation/BEING. No material being can understand the Spiritual reality, without understanding the finite, ending and limited material things first in life and evolution. The material realm is limited in all possible ways, so sooner or later the First-human is going to recognize the hard-limits of matter. The material reality teaches the First-human the concept of the boundaries in all material things, of a beginning and a end, he recognizes that a finite reality can only exist in a infinity, in a endless and limitless BEING. When the First-Human, the Earth human or ADAM has reached this point of recognition, he will realize sooner or later that if he identifies himself with material, with the ending and finite part of reality, he never will be able to transform into the Creative human, the Spirit-human. He has to let go off all material in his life and no long identify himself with it. He lives in the material, that’s is still true, but it has become for him a tool and a workplace to reach the Spiritual, the endless and infinite reality of all things. There is a threshold in spiritual evolution for everybody, a invisible line, once crossed, there is no way back, it means for people who cross that line in evolution that it becomes their duty to let go of all material and limiting factors in their thinking, feeling and acting. He will need to let go of all limiting, material factors in his ego and personality, because he knows that binding himself to the 'heaviness' of matter, the material, it will tie him down and make him unable to progress into the realm of Spirit and Creation. Only life from and within the spiritual can only be the truth for him and nothing else. When this happens, the Spirit-human, the Creative human is awake in him and he has truly become OMEDAM, fulfillment of the Law of Creation inside and out. Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Jacob New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2013 |
This is a repost from 2004; my post as 'phaethonsfire', it needs some improvements. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3545.html Salome, Jacob | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 191 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Jacob Nice post mate, i will spend some time on that, your timing is always right on q some sentences/meditations to help people rid themselves of religion and counteract words people are exposed to would be good e.g. In some songs/movies they slip in words like god or lord, i have concerns about religion so say/think this every now and then: If i sense the word god or lord i ask my spirit and subconscious to sense and understand the word god or lord as The Creation as i know the gods and lords are The Creation's creations. i do variations of that but i am sure you can come up with some good ones if you have time Thanks for introducing me to Beams work in more detail in your posts, like from ADAM to OMEDAM, it's not easy to find so i re-posted it i printed it and read it often, and give it to people i know/meet even the old lady next door, also Reverence and Venerability and other works of Beams you shared with us that are hard to find Reverence and Venerability needs a re-post if you have it handy or i have it as a txt file for printing that i can dig up Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 706 Registered: 06-2006 |
Please put posts about the spiritual teaching in that section. A little care and self discipline would help make this forum a little easier to read and the search function more useful. Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 708 Registered: 06-2006 |
Post by Jacob on reverence and venerability, moved to: The Spiritual Teaching » Spiritual Life In Everyday Life http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=13&page=12608 Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 12-2011 |
Indi In all fairness it is not easy to know where posts belong. ---------- Votan, I understand that it can at times be difficult to know where would be the best place for a post, however, there are miscellaneous topics in almost each section, that can be utilised in those cases. See what the main theme of your post is about and find a suitable place for it based on that. Is it FIGU related? then go to that section. Is it spiritual teaching related? Is it about the WW3? Is about the mission? or the Plejaren? If not sure, then try Miscellaneous. (Message edited by indi on February 16, 2013) joe | ||
Soma New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2013 |
I aquired 3 books 12yrs ago,The hand books for a new Paradigm, They seem to follow the teaching from FIGU. Do you know of these and if so your opinion please |
