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Justsayno
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Post Number: 517
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 07:54 am: | 
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Hi Soma, welcome. Are those the books by George Green? I had listened to all the new Paradigm stuff on youtube, but something seemed off about them. It wasn't until I started reading the Meier material that I knew why. George Green was a former Plejaren contact, who turned to the dark side.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2374
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 08:38 am: |
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Justsayno,
In what form was George Green a Plejaren contactee?
Scott |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 823
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 09:24 am: |
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I think George was an Ashtar Sheran group contactee ..... someone from the dark side got to him one way or other to spread that stuff but whether it was face to face meetings is unknown .... to us anyway.
Cheers.
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Joe
Member
Post Number: 236
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 10:14 am: |
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George Green isn't speaking the truth when he claims to be in contact with the Plejaren. If I'm not mistaken his name is mentioned in the Meier material as a false contactee. |
Soma
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 - 08:33 pm: |
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Thanks for the comments, they have no author, greens name does not appear anywhere, no ref to any contacts or names of contacts. 3 small books 1-hand book for the new paradigm 2-embracing the rainbow 3-Becoming. |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 518
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 07:46 am: |
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Will try and find that Scott, but it seemed to me I had to piece that together from a couple different contact reports.
If there's a rainbow, Soma, it usually has something to do with Freemasons.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Soma
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 02:01 pm: |
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Over the yrs Ive read alot of the older freemason stuff, these book follow closely the spirit teaching at FIGU, Ive been looking for the connections to these books for 12 yrs, I started reading BEAM material in 1985. THX for any comments. |
Remr
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 02:25 pm: |
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FIGU material VS the Handbook for the New Paradigm series
About the time I was learning about the existence of Billy and FIGU I also read those Handbook for the New Paradigm books. Actually, I read each of them about 6 or 7 times, for a few reasons: I thought they seemed really good - they felt right; George Green talked about Billy in his seminars, who I had already figured out was legitimate; and I also felt like I needed to study those handbooks because IF there was conflicting information with Billy's and FIGU's information, I wanted to be able to figure out what it was, because also at the time I just couldn't quite figure out what was "off" about them, though I felt that something was off.
Now that I have been studying the FIGU information diligently for about 5 years, even enough that I felt confident enough to join as a Passive Member last year, I feel like I have enough of a grasp on the FIGU material as well as the Handbook material to be able to decipher what I initially felt was wrong with the Handbook for the New Paradigm series. I think George Green wrote those books -- largely based on information he learned from reading the contact reports - especially Contact Report 251, based on other texts by Billy, based on his own imagination, some of his own wisdom, and who knows what else. There are lots of concepts about aliens and spirituality that at least seem like they are stolen from Billy's work anyway.
Here are a few things that didn't add up, to me anyway:
• Right in line with the Geisteslehre, the Handbook for the New Paradigm professes self-responsibility as being extremely important to have at the center of ones awareness, and a trait to incorporate into all internal and exterior realms of life. A big red flag to me was when they taught this "becoming" prayer. "I am a human becoming, help me become." It is basically a prayer to ask aliens or something exterior (Plejaren, The Creation, et al.) to help the one praying to become more of a complete human - a human becoming rather than a 'just' a human being - through allowing the unfolding of latent abilities such as telepathy, telekinetic powers and other consciousness-related abilities. This certainly appeals to people's personal desires, but relieves the reader/believer in the material of any personal responsibility, even though the contrary is claimed in the literature and Greene's seminars, that it IS in line with personal responsibility to say a prayer like that and expect results!
• The 4 Laws of the Universe
The 4 Laws of the Universe as described in the Handbook for the New Paradigm are a clever set of four "laws" of manifestation for everything material and spiritual. I still think they are pretty clever, but they may have been stolen from the popular book "The Secret" which I have not read. A couple people related the book to me during discussions. The laws work in succession as a unit:
1. Attraction
2. Intention
3. Allowance
4. Balance
These laws, according to the books, are underlying everything that exists in the universe and are "holographic" laws based on thought, since everything in the universe is based on thought (i.e. Creation).
• I think the book even uses the words "Creation" and "Universal Consciousness." Another red flag to me was that the totality of the information in the books is supposed to have been 'handed down through the ranks' of the Universe, from Creation Itself to the Earth humans, through different spirit levels and aliens and so forth.
• The books, from what I remember, discuss "rainbow babies" and/or "rainbow people" (?) and say that there are 144,000 of these rainbow people on earth, incarnating now to fulfill their duty to raise the mass consciousness on the planet Earth. Furthermore, the books go as far as saying that if you found this book and are reading it, then you are one of these special rainbow people. Slightly similar to FIGU material, but still not true as far as I can tell, and potentially even dangerous. Find out about the 144,207 ringleaders on this forum and in other FIGU literature and see the differences.
• There is mention of "Immanuel" in book 2 I think, and then of "Jmmanuel" again later in book 3, making an inference to Billy, although it never says Billy's name. I think it said something like 'if the reincarnation of Jmmanuel were alive today, it would likely be an unassuming man', or something like that.
• In the Handbook for the New Paradigm, there is also a warning that there are extraterrestrials who are trying to succeed in a plan of somehow creating a "negative universe" through a chain-reaction, starting with Earth. I think this was one of the things in the book series that made the least logical sense to me. I bet Billy would probably describe this as a classic example of brain-tearing nonsense and sheer idiocy.
The last main thing I can think of right now is that the books have no author, but within the literature it is claimed as it progresses that it was (allegedly) written by extraterrestrials. I think it also said it was either channeled or sent electronically or something, to their contact on Earth. George Greene's name is not anywhere in the books, but he does (or did) promote them through his website and his lectures, which, by the way, he has his gullible audiences captivated in an almost mind-control-like manner through his quick wit and his fast-paced mode of presentation, sprinkling blatant lies in with the truths while sounding and appearing fairly genuine, even though wearing a nice suit similar to a religious missionary. In my opinion, he wrote the Handbook for the New Paradigm series, and I don't think he was a contact to any extraterrestrial sources at all.
I hope that helps!
Salome,
Rem |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 672
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 05:23 am: |
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Hi Soma,
Are you referring to these handbooks?
http://www.trufax.org/handbooks/paradigmvol1.html
Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it - Rabindranath Tagore
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 92
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:30 pm: |
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According to the Henoch prophecies Russia will take Canada. Henoch must have known the date and time.
This must be a certainty because I read somewhere that Russian troops will guard inmates in concentration camps in America.
America will not invade Canada but the Russian allies will.
I wonder if it will be this or in the next five years.
joe
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:35 pm: |
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I was watching a documentary on the planets.
According to scientists Venus plays a major part in attracting or repelling asteroids. How hard is it with the technology these days to deflect asteroids from Venus.
Only if they want to.
joe
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2690
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2013 - 01:28 am: |
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Hi Joe....
I personally 'hope' it does NOT happen....
Possibly, it will stay as a Prophecy...as long as it can and NOT becoming a
Prediction. And, that the world leaders not act Impulsively....but THINK...
with Common Sense, Logic and Reason.
But, you never know with the US "Government within a Government(Puppeteers)"
and, Israel's Nathanyahu. They create their own Demons, so to speak.
'PEACE, to all Creatures of Creation.....'
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2691
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 04, 2013 - 01:15 am: |
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Hi All....
Some interesting excerpts...
George Green and Phoenix Source Publishers Inc.
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/1997/apr/m27-003.shtml
Source (1997): web.eunet.ch/figu/FIGUHP65.HTM
"We, the members of FIGU, vehemently distance ourselves on our own behalf,
and in the name of the Pleiadians, from George Green's false and deceitful
schemes. He has translated and published the Meier Talmud Jmmanuel in
distorted format with untruthful interpretations, without ever having
obtained permission from any of us. The members of FIGU, as well as the
Pleiadians and entities from the Arahat Athersata and Petale levels also
distance themselves in every conceivable way from the lies regarding
purported transmissions from higher spirit levels that were published by
Phoenix Source Publishers Inc. This also applies to the prevaricated,
concocted contact personages Dharma, Sananda, Judas Iscarioth, Michael,
Germain, Ashtar, Adonai, Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn and The Masters, among others.
The alleged transmissions are nothing more than malicious falsifications and
perversions of facts that have absolutely nothing in common with the truth.
We, the members of FIGU, the Pleiadians, and the Arahat Athersata and Petale
levels, distance ourselves from each and every one of George Green's written
concoctions and from those who may collaborate with him and/or other writers
who publish fraudulent contact information..."
and...
An information to the readers
Due to legal reasons we have deleted information about certain persons in
this Web-Site section. Nowadays it is not possible anymore, unfortunately, to
name the truth in its entirety. When we know that, as an example, a person
consciously says an untruth, we are not allowed to say (according to a
court's decision): "Person such-and-such is a liar."
As a form of assistance for the readers it may be said that we, FIGU and
"Billy" Eduard A. Meier, dissociate ourselves from the machinations of and
certain claims by the following persons: George Green (to add, other names
not added...)
Edward. |
Soma
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 02:30 pm: |
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Thank you all for your comments, I did have my doubts about those books, But needed some confirmation as to there origin. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 97
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 04:04 am: |
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It seems that the Henoch prophecies are true after all. Petrus Romanos was elected after all.The new Pope was born in Italy.
He was born in Assisi and went by the name Francesco di Pietro (Peter) di Bernardone.
He was the Argentinian bishop of Italian birth.
joe
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Skyrim
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 07:45 pm: |
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Hi Votan,
May I ask how you came to this conclusion? Any links?
phil |
Imamovic
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 08:05 am: |
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Hi Votan, the new pope chose his name in honor of st. Francis of Assisi whose name is Francesco di Pietro Bernardone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi) the name of the new pope is Jorge Mario Bergoglio and was born in Flores, Buenos Aires, his roots are Italian. Considering that the Vatican has banned the choosing of the name Petrus by any new pope, it is clear that such a name won't come up anymore. Pope Francis, has implemented changes since the first hours of his inauguration, firstly by ordering the removal of the pedestal as he didn't want to be elevated above the surrounding bishops, second, he didn't accept to wear the golden cross, saying that the metal one is good enough for him, during his career in south america he didn't want to use the curch limousine, instead he used public transportation, he studied chemistry, psychology and theology...to me personally, he's got the perfect profile of the last pope. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 618
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 01:47 am: |
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Hi everyone
Judging by this article the new pope is once again a wolf in sheep'ss clothing.
He may just be the pope that Henoch prophecy had mentioned.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/washingtons-pope-who-is-francis-i-cardinal-jorge-mario-bergoglio-and-argentinas-dirty-war/5326675
cheers
Matt |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 98
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2013 - 04:23 pm: |
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Hi Imamovic
Sorry
I was given the wrong info.
Goes to show you not everything you read is true.
joe
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 102
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2013 - 03:24 pm: |
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Hi All
If these pages are monitored by all secret services you would think that they would be much wiser now by reading all the good stuff.
Probably not as their ego stops them. How much more do you need to learn just to be yourself and not to upset the balance of nature. When you hurt nature you are hurting yourself.
joe
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 836
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2013 - 06:14 pm: |
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Hi Imamovic,
"Hi Votan, the new pope chose his name in honor of st. Francis of Assisi whose name is Francesco di Pietro Bernardone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi)"
That's the public relations spin talk version but .... who knows which actual historical person he might have had in mind when named himself Franciscus after Francisco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Pizarro
Sorta fit's the frame of what the roman religion was all about .... conquest which in reality was no less than calculated and planned invasion, genocide, slavery, theft, exploitation and colonization ..... missionary work.
Francisco Pizarro, hero of rome who stole the lands, wealth and independence from cultures and peoples far away all in the name of skyman.
Could it be this character perhaps ....... is this his hero ?
Cheers.
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Zaqwsx
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 11:38 pm: |
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NEW:
Hello,
Does number 10^49 variations in becoming absolute absolutum MEANS 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 0 ?
And our Ur-Universe is THE first of this 10^49 ? |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 104
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 07:22 pm: |
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I was reading a contact report which stated that the Petrus Romanus concept might not come true after all. Prophecies can change.
joe
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