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Memo00
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Post Number: 596
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - 06:59 am: | 
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If you think that Billy and Christian need to be patient imagine how it was for the old prophets with the ignorant masses who didnīt know how to read and threatened them with death if they didnīt liked their speech... Salome. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 890
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |
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Hi Memo00
"If you think that Billy and Christian need to be patient imagine how it was for the old prophets with the ignorant masses who didnīt know how to read and threatened them with death if they didnīt liked their speech..."
Seems little has changed ....
Cheers.
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Zaqwsx
Member
Post Number: 49
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 04:54 am: |
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Hello
Is there any females here who travels the world alone?
You safe all the time?
Im basically still clueless what i want to do for the rest of my life but i need to know if i'll stay in one place or not.
My only main issue is femality and high risk of rape so any thoughts and experiences will suffice |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 705
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 07:30 pm: |
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> I'm not a female but I highly recommend that you don't travel alone. The world is not getting kinder to anyone, and that includes women who travel alone. It also may depend on where you plan to go but I'd still say prioritize your safety. |
Zaqwsx
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 07:40 pm: |
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I've considered that ,thanks michael.
Though i cant help but sigh -- if only our world is different
I wonder when could that be |
Johnnybalmain
Member
Post Number: 164
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 04:41 am: |
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I need help here I have a friend who has presented a kal korf video to prove billy is a fake. How do I go about this? |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 781
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 05:27 pm: |
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Kal is a klown, a liar and a kriminal .. if your friend can't figure that out nor figure out for himself that Billy is a genuine, honest human being, then there isn't much you can do for him or her
Salome,
Bruce
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Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 944
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 09:22 pm: |
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Hi Johny,
Reconsidering or at least questioning the friendship status seems a start.
But presenting KK videos .... where exactly ? Do you mean in some sort of formal debunkers society meeting ?
Does he give equal time to alleged frauds like maybe questioning the validity of claims made by man on a balcony in Rome ?
It's a free country with many diverse views being held, aired and supported which is the sign of a healthy society.
Cheers.
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Davidmg
Member
Post Number: 137
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 11:08 am: |
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Johnnybalmain;
Unfortunately when a belief in a subject has a strong hold on a person before any discussion can begin it can be difficult to offer any in-site other than what supports their information and can prevent their ability to be open minded. This goes for friends, neighbours, co-workers, families and so on.
If your friend is unable to listen to any information you present to him/her then it will be difficult not to butt heads so to say. As soon as hostile emotions enter in the discussion any hopeful progress can be lost and nothing further will be gained from it. So conversation should be discontinued until an other opportunity arises to have a relaxed and open discussion.
But what I find frequently helps, even when I teach my kids is that instead of trying to tell them what I want.
I offer both sides of the story. I get them to think of both sides of the actions and the consequences
If your friend makes a claim. Ask how he/she has come to that conclusion. If you know he or she is absolutely wrong, then never say to him/her that he/she is wrong. For it can go both ways and can back fire on you if you cannot prove your stance. A good reference would be to watch and read Micheal's Horn's video, audio, and blog and see how he views and deals with Kal Korf and the likes. Minus the harsh words. An understanding should be taken here that your friend is trying to make sense of what he / she is reading and seeing even what you have seen and read may not align with your information.
Your friend must explore ALL of Kal Korf's material as well as others who do not stand with Kal Korf and eventually ( you hope ) He/She will begin to see that those skeptics have huge holes in their stories.
Think of it like putting a puzzle together. Where both of you have equal pieces. Both of you know some will fit and some won't during the stages of collaberation. Eventually it will all come together at the end. It just won't take one full sitting with each other to see the full picture.
Davidmg
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 740
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 11:35 am: |
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> Regarding Korff, alittle of my own experience:
http://theyfly.com/Evidence-for-Stephen-Bassett.html |
Celesco
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 01-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 12:24 pm: |
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Can you share the video with me, Johnny? I am interested to see Karl's presentation. Do not worry; I have no intention of blindly siding with him, or of turning on the spirit teaching. I would like to see the Billy Meier case documented from the perspective of an antagonist, however. Perhaps there is something to be learned yet from such a video.
My email address is cody.tyler.rutland@gmail.com. |
Abdiel
Member
Post Number: 94
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 04:39 pm: |
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To earthling:
Why you criticise Karl Kolf?
I see kal Kolf as the other part of the coin...
You have to read both part of the coin to have a big picture...
I not saying that billy's case is false, but kal kolf have his spice too. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 366
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 06:13 am: |
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Abdiel, I don't know why you feel that way about Kal Korf? He is a liar and sick in the head as the Plejaren said he was.
I also feel the same way as Earthling does on the matter as well as on the matter he said regarding Johnnybalmain's friend. |
Earthling
Member
Post Number: 783
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 06:27 am: |
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Abdiel, that is most understanding of you to give KKK credit for 'having his spice too', and perhaps at some level or other, in some way or another, he may.
However, as far as his public persona, which he has nurtured and promoted, and his claims regarding his own resume and accomplishments and what he has said and done regarding the Meier case goes, he is krazy, a krackpot, a kriminal, a kook and a knutjob, not to mention a kliar.
Enjoy his spice. I'll take turmeric any day.
Salome,
Bruce
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 563
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 06:33 am: |
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Hi johnny, please forward to my mail too!
mahigitam@gmail.com
Hope it is never before seen video.
If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere - Frank A. Clark
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Johnnybalmain
Member
Post Number: 165
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 01:01 pm: |
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Hello All and thankyou for the response. There will be no mail the videos in question arevall on youtube under the "Billy Meier Debunked" label. I have given a response and also forwarded thr future of mankind address to her. This conversation was on facebook so was probably observed by many. I told her of my experiences and wished her well in her journey of seeking the truth. Sorry about spelling, no pc anymore only android mobile now. It has its limitations but its the cheapest access to the internet for me. Will check out Michaels response te |
Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 368
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 05:49 am: |
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If anyone has archived all the posts on race that were recently removed, please let me know. I found the discussion valuable precisely because it touched upon what few people will openly discuss. To me, the only way to approach wisdom on touchy topics is to discuss them, rather than to ignore them and delete evidence that people tried to dig for common sense. The same goes for the removed discussions on homosexuality and all the deleted posts on drugs. Is anyone archiving these things, or are they just gone when they get removed?
Life
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Mark92111
Member
Post Number: 33
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 04:14 pm: |
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I second that motion Michaelhelfert. Good idea to keep those around I think. |
Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 163
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 04:46 pm: |
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Johnnybalmain;
I'm not sure the extent that your friend has familiarized their self with the Meier case but if they are intent on watching KK,then why not encourage them to do so,then have them watch both of Michaels films, the SROT and As the Time Fullfills, then they can make up their own mind after.
If they are intent,like my roommate, who I tried to intro into Billy, to look directly at everything the skeptics and basically dumbasses said first, then shutting down all openmindedness and objectivity,then as other people have said here,don't worry about it or waste your time.
As Billy said, sooner the stars will fall out of the sky onto earth,before you can make the blind see and the deaf hear. |
Syplucas
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 01, 2013 - 05:37 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert, thank you for bringing it up. It is a touchy subject but reality is what it is. I am black but I am looking for truth. I would very much like to find out more about the dark races in the galaxies. I wrote an essay about my religious upbringing and how I have been freed from those beliefs by the writings of Billy Meier from the Plejarens. I posted it on my facebook page and have requested feedback from anyone who cares to offer it.I want to be careful that I don't come off as a crackpot so as not to distract from Billy's messages. If you care to read it, search for Paul Golden Sr. and give me your feedback. |
Johnnybalmain
Member
Post Number: 166
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2013 - 06:24 pm: |
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Blake_p
I will not engage in a debate with my friend. I understand that they are at where I was some 7 years ago and my quest was an adventure and I dont want to deny them of their adventure. Still I had to find Billy myself and I have helped by my input. Now it is up to my friend to work it out all by themselves. I cannot make up their minds for them. My experience tells me it is pointless trying to convince another without proof when they were not there. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 368
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 - 08:23 pm: |
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"Now it is up to my friend to work it out all by themselves."
Johnnybalmain, the chances of people like your friend finding the truth in the Meier case is overwhelmingly slim. Unfortunately only a small number of people are able to FIND and SEE the Meier case for what it is. |
Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 369
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 03:50 am: |
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Syplucas: I searched for your autobiography, but didn't find it. Would you post a link?
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