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Shark_mode
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2014 - 03:56 pm: | 
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Dear Pendrake,
I don't think your posts are nonsense. Certainly not any more than the rest of the forum, including the mods. And I just want to thank you for assembling some great ideas and backing them up with quotes. You are one of the reasons I rejoined the forum.
Since the rest of forum is, for the most part, unreasonable and full of religion, I will not continue our very fruitful discussion. I especially wanted to explore the Creational law of unique spirit-forms, when it comes to meeting yourself on a time travel. I loved your idea of different pixels making up "one light" to explain how the multiples differ from the original person upon meeting yourself through a time travel. However, I think it is different people and unique "lights" (spirits) when it comes to multiples between parallel universes.
But so that all the believers here do not get confused because this should all be over everyone's' heads and time travel is centuries away for the earth humans, I will stop posting my 'nonsense.' However I hope that the moderator changes his or her mind, and allows us to continue our unfolding discussion.
All the best,
Anthony |
Shark_mode
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2014 - 07:24 pm: |
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T57,
You are saying, "Please; anyone quoting from a CR, include the CR number, and it's very helpful to post the Original German with the translations."
People are not even paying attention to the English quotes, let alone any German. What I don't understand about your contention that Pedrake and myself are not studying the Billy material and instead going off on some wild goose chase with Titor, is that we are backing our stuff up with parallel quotes from each case. I have never brought up Preston or Basiago; in my opinion those two stories are fakes! What ever happened to Dr. Mallett that I brought to the conversation? Did you forget about that cat?
All I have said, along with Pendrake, is that the Titor case greatly parallels the Meier science and prophecies. It is very interesting and worth exploring. I don't understand why the Figu forum is so against this? In order for the Titor case to be a hoax, it would have had to been created from the Meier information. The Meier case is not "rubbish" I think we all agree? So why is a Meier filled Titor story going to suddenly turn to "rubbish," even though it is "fantasy?" I think people deserve to figure out the puzzle for themselves. Please check the latest blog article on TheyFly blog, "Forbidden Topics." People should be allowed to challenge the Meier case, as well as cheer-lead for it. We are doing our due diligence; you just are not seeing it!
Kind regards,
Anthony |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 113
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 08:11 am: |
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Hey there, Anthony;
I have read several articles on Mallett, and somewhat understand the physics behind his experiments - and the theories he is utilizing. Perhaps - his is a beginning. There are so many testing several theories, yet the most promising are the ones where messaging, reaches the point of reception, before leaving(a conundrum for many to think about!)
On the matter of quoting, many posters do NOT include sufficient data about their source materials, and FIGU-BEAM_members have always read that the translations should contain the originals German along side
(Really? It's a simple request that allows for others to determine the accuracy and provenance of an idea)
Ideas removed from their context LOSE accurate meaning. Anyone here not understanding that loses the value of understanding that the Creationary laws all operate upon -IMO-(and observations) exacting and very repeatable methods.
Whenever anyone moves very far from understanding that, they fall into areas where beliefs take over thinking - and while not a necessarily terminal step - it is one where many are lost and become delusional(ideas are "made up" and then assumed as "real")
My emphasis upon study, whether it be Meier's materials - or any others - is that the one studying those, 'test' the thesis, and see if they can repeat the process - NOT just irrationally defend something without being capable of withstanding scrutiny!
Titor - IF HE EXISTS - HAD access to all Meier Materials(as a regular human based in current Time-Space) - and therefore would write as if 'he' "knew" of their fulfillment(that does NOT equal any form of 'proof' - just plagiarism)
Perhaps - my personal advantage - is that I have read - from my youth- ALL the 'Time-Space' stories I found available - and am familiar with generally where and when an idea in that area, came from. Not that my doing so, is beneficial to another, excepting as to question and challenge testable results. Still, that does not exclude me from further studies.
In researching 'Titor prophesies' there are none found that do not fall into two categories:
1) repeated Meier predictions or prophesy(from 1948 on)
2) unverified-unfulfilled prognostications;
his -Titor's - have a very low success rate - from any searches I've made - even though there are many, many adherents to that material.
IMO- it is like assuming that the Roman Catholic church founders process of handing down of 'scriptural materials'- contains actual-truthful replication of past reports. The 'fruit' of their tree - is rotten!
In the 36 years since I started reading Billy Meier, 100% of the predictions have happened in the time referred to - or are still yet ahead - AND - of the prophesies, the ones I, and others have worked to stave off, as well as the ones fulfilled, exceed 'norms' from statistical randomness.
The easiest conclusions found can be simply based upon that result: "What is the result of people-materials-thoughts-processes? AND does it promote or retard evolutionary(Creationally oriented) growth????
The purpose of including Basiago, P Nichols, and many other spurious tales, is that there are FAR MORE parallels with them to the Titor materials, than to Meier's of even good research scientists!
Just becoming aware of the many Meier detractors - has led me through a morass of self-serving sycophants - not because they were not earnest - but because the results were simply -NOT THERE.(outside of megalomania!) Look at where G Green, R Winter, initial Core Group failures, etc took many people - and I enjoyed seeing their research.
Well- I agree with you. It is a choice to study where you think best suits you. You ARE, after all your own guide in life. In THAT area, you will always find me cheering you onwards.
Ever participated in a formal verbal debate session at a college or university? Visit one, if not, and see how they deal with materials and ideas. Then, perhaps, you may see where doing 'due diligence' usage comes from.
Just keep on - failure comes from giving up. |
Shark_mode
Member
Post Number: 42
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 05:07 am: |
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T57,
I am done going around in circles with you. But I will address one last point because it is going over your head.
You said, "his -Titor's - have a very low success rate [Ed: prophecies] - from any searches I've made - even though there are many, many adherents to that material."
Forget about John Titor. We have been talking about parallel time-space configurations and their divergence from an original (your home) line. Why can't you see the difference between events playing out on one line and events playing out on a different line differently? So for example, on our home line the Seattle Seahawks pounded the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XLVIII; and on a parallel line the Broncos barely defeated the Seahawks in a close game. Here is what a divergence looks like, my friend.
Kind regards,
Anthony |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 07:20 am: |
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Here's another Forum post link where very similar discussions were held:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/10697.html?1261441338 |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 115
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 07:49 am: |
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From 'Answers' section: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=11394
"Billy,
About multi/parallel dimensions and time travel.
Are there parallel dimensions existing where i e.i. am a doctor and another dimension where i am a musician, or one where i dont exist at all, and do dimensions exist where e.i. a time traveler goes back in time and caused changes which in effect riped a different line of history or dimension of existence?
Thank you.
Tien
No, that's impossible. You only exist one time. One spirit form for one person." |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 02:56 pm: |
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Hi Anthony; Nice to hear from you!
Cerebrally, I UNDERSTAND - the 'parallel' time lines statement you are 'diverging' to. That's a sci-fi way of theorizing, similar to string theory or bubble universe theory. Currently NOT provable within our technology - excepting for possibly the testing of Mallett's theory, or the current discoveries of communications technology.
What has brought much of the 'fashionable' enjoyment of entertainment of time traveling, are programs like 'Time Tunnel', Quantum Leap, Outer Limits, Early edition, Sliders, and the many listed at this Site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_series_that_include_time_travel
These are the 'culprits', similar to the religions that twisted Jmmanuel's teachings into the horrors we have today. Many people CANNOT/WILL-NOT leave their favorite ways of thinking, to grow and evolve in a manner following Creation pathways!!!!
A more complete understanding of wave-particle reality physics would also help you to see 'what is possible'.
In it: Waves of probability (founded in sub-atomic particles; usually discussed as electrons) exist as 'waves(energy waves)-of-probability' UNTIL they are 'measured(i.e. experienced by one or especially more than one observer);
Particles of 'reality' come into being(in that theory) at the 'time' they are measured(determination of positioning, vector and destination)
THIS IS CURRENT SCIENCE! Currently, there is no theorizing that the SAME identical set of molecules and materials come into being in two or more places-at-the-same time-space index point. Electrons, yes; sub-nucleus materials change form, into 'quarks, gluons, vacuons, tachyon, even HIggs bosons.
Not molecular or larger sized materials.
What you may NOT be understanding, is that 'the time line' of any one consciousness-block, spirit-form or temporal-personality(as in 'Thomas' or 'Anthony') - according to any Meier materials - can only exist(without Psyche fracturing) once in any time-spacial index(s). (See post #115 above for the Meier material quote)
One cannot "un-ring" a bell" once it is struck! Or the extremely specious(created out of thin air) arguments of a philosophical debate of a tree making a sound in a forest where no recording system is there to certify the event - making the parallel worlds theory unusable by the dwellers here. Literally, a waste of time when other developing needs are extremely more important.
Otherwise, we would have a separate consciousness block personality and spiritform for each of those "parallel" worlds that are only 'LOOKING' similar to the "us" here.
Just take a wee few moments and think upon that.
I readily agree, that it IS possible for me to travel by machinery and to meet myself doing some thing in the past or future, but the loop eventually comes back and connects to 'the me' of this 'time-spatial index'.
In order for a 'divergent time line' to exist, as you are attempting to proffer, is to have either a fractured Psyche which is dwelling in a cerebralized, split-personality world/belief-system territory -
OR
Creation, in its exercise of development has a 'near' similar set of parameters that contain the same names, dates, world-formations, etc
(which is statistically fractionally LOW-10 to the infinity zeros due to the pieces and parameters, undefined or illogical and not probable, as in lacking criteria and repeatability systems of interaction and provability.
Then you have the dilemma of relativity: measurement from a perspective(a repeatable perspective that more than one can view at-the-same-time).
Perhaps those reading this can begin to see just where logical thinking AND Meier's "rubbish" statement fit nicely into this forum section.??
Don't you think so?
T57
PS; I do enjoy your unrelenting labours of investigation; though I can do without the unfounded adjectives some seem to enjoy lacing upon posters here. |
Shark_mode
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2014 - 04:23 pm: |
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Dear Thomas,
My friend, you have not read a word that I have said have you? And you obviously haven't gone to the Forbidden Topics thread on TheyFly blog and seen how Billy does NOT LIE, but often presents the truth from a certain point of view, or he "beats around the bush" or he says as little as he can. Billy Meier would never lie; he instead is trying for the highest pursuit of learning and applying the spirit teaching. BUT he screws with YOU! I got news for you about the Questions to Billy -- Answered thread; Billy is NOT answering your question, he is presenting a spirit lesson with each poorly articulated question; and he is often ignoring parts of questions to make a spiritual point.
Billy's answer to Tien is not addressing or answering about "parallel dimensions;" Tien makes the mistake of adding "i am a doctor, i am a musician, I do not exist" and breaks the law of unique spirits by saying YOU are all these people; you are not! Multiples, identical twins, clones, etc., have unique spirit forms; even though they may look exactly the same and living similar lives in parallel dimensions.
To teach a spirit lesson, instead Billy ignores "parallel dimensions" and ONLY makes the point that "One spirit form for one person." Billy himself, the guy with the long beard that talks to the Plejaren, confirms (talks about) "parallel dimensions" in Contact Report 142. Where have you been? Pointing out HOW MANY books you have read, and how experienced you are and scholarly, you are? Is this your best argument?
I have gone AROUND AND AROUND in CIRCLES trying to show you (and forum) that the law of Creation of unique spirit forms is NOT broken with parallel dimensions. And I have tried to show the forum how BILLY has screwed with ME, Norm and "beat around the bush" with our questions to ignore talking about parallel worlds. I of course am okay with it; but why the confusion Billy? Why parallel dimensions in a CONTACT REPORT and then refuse to confirm parallel dimensions on Questions to Billy--Answered?
I think I know why. Because Earth humans would incorrectly think that they could give up personal responsibility if they lived multiple lives in parallel dimensions. For example, an Earth human could rationalize that they could lead a lazy and unproductive life, if they thought that they were a rich doctor in another life in another universe. This also messes and confuses with the law of reincarnation; and people might confuse parallel time-space configuration multiples with incarnations. So Billy STEERS the little earth worms to concentrate on "One spirit form for one person."
Does this help explain things? I sure hope so; because if I'm not good enough explaining this or you are ignoring what I'm saying so that you can tell me how smart you are and academic, we are stopping the merry-go-round. Please let the rest of us here continue our fruitful and non repetitive discussion. Or I'm getting off the ride and going to buy some fish and chips at the snack bar, and you can continue to get dizzy.
Cheers!
Anthony |
Theredpill
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 - 09:07 am: |
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Hi Thomas57,
This is another one of those answers by Billy that you have to really understand his context....
Salome. |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 354
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 12:33 am: |
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Shark_mode
Your assumption...
"I think I know why. Because Earth humans would incorrectly think that they could give up personal responsibility if they lived multiple lives in parallel dimensions. For example, an Earth human could rationalize that they could lead a lazy and unproductive life, if they thought that they were a rich doctor in another life in another universe. This also messes and confuses with the law of reincarnation; and people might confuse parallel time-space configuration multiples with incarnations. So Billy STEERS the little earth worms to concentrate on "One spirit form for one person."
... is another of many you managed to make about Meier which is not confirmed and actually there is no slightest indication in the materials or anywhere to back it up. Isn't it better to simply ask him and clarify things for sure instead of interpreting his mindset or actions?
As noticed before, this isn't the first time you do this thus you read this friendly advise ;)
Under countless circumstances and numerous times it has been clearly stated and explained in details by Meier about why's and how's of "one spirit form per person" so do you really think your assumption is correct?
Salome |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 - 05:27 pm: |
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Anthony;
Why DOES it appear/seen from your words that emotional, irrational actions are a way of life for you? Is it your bloodlines(as I have very Celtic ones) - or are you just 'pot-stirring'/poking-bears-with-sharp-sticks? Lol
One the one hand, the irrational superlatives flow from your fingers, . . .
while the last part of your Post #44 contains what you have understood correctly all along.
Please explain that, as I have been lead down some thorny (rose-less) path by adjective maligning characterizations from both you and this 'Pendrake" fellow??? (ouch, ouch, ouch  )
Of course, I understand your point that you have assigned to BEAM - which MAY be-or NOT be (under current research and testing phase) represented accurately(due to the error-filled postings read through from your perspectives).
IMO-it seems many have really missed out on the value of the purpose of Creation, as it pertains to them.
I offer this as clarification:
from: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=11394
"Dear Billy and Christian:
I read “Being oneself” and “Being a human being” and I wanted to reach a more neutral mind set by understanding more about dealing with aggressions from other fellow humans. For a long time I didn’t know how to react to aggressions and hurting comments that come from people without one provoking them.
I often find myself being angry at these aggressions and I learned that this emotion should be avoided. Then I was wondering, how a person should react in front of an aggressor. For example, if a person treats you rudely or makes am insulting comment towards you. What is the correct reaction one should take; completely ignore it or should one try to answer as to protect one’s dignity?
Thank you, Marcela
You must learn to have patience, with yourself and with other persons. You have to learn to control yourself and dissolve aggressions as soon as they arise.
You may answer with a loud or harsh answer if the situation requires it, but within yourself you must not be upset and keep control over your feelings.
You have to keep up a distance to your fellow human beings and always be aware of the fact that each person has a different level of showing aggressive behaviour (and thinking), all of which is founded in false thinking, education etc., but is a part of each person's evolution. When a person is showing aggression there is a reason behind it that may be understood, but which must not be accepted, though."
again . . . .
in Contact report #142:
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_142
at line #99, BEAM explains his knowledge/view of dimensional "possibilities" , not the purposeful reality of any such event.
On-the-contrary - in paragraph 99, he specifically states such ability to do such comes ONLY with evolution, evolving well-past the uncivil diatribes attributed to 'us' - the human race, as are in the current-state-of-affairs(the forum section clearly meets that definition)
And, 'Yes' to "Theredpill", context is everything(like provenance is to material fact). Why might one think that was not clearly understood? Simply because I choose to allow space for others to proffer their thoughts, does not spare me from understanding contexts/provenance; NOR does it excuse - when engaged in such spirited debates - those from answering with the best they have learned.(and not just the simple reiteration of another's illogical delusions)
The recent use of "parallel dimension" travels in this Forum section, comes out of minds nowhere near evolved sufficiently to travel there, let alone understand the consequences of such.
The simple process of asking for logic, and reason from posters, has brought about a great load of emotive crap against such of those who actually use it.
In reading through this forum, there IS the religious belief process argued by many, who post without much research footnoting, provenance proofs, and understanding that research and then being able to form reasoned logic statements from that process and explain it to others;
. . . and then there are those (currently seeming) few who refuse to succumb to such, even when maligned.
Go Figure!
Those of you who choose to leave this "sand box", due to having to account for the emotional, illogical tirades and evolving accountability required to progress; do you think you will really escape yourself?
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Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 118
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 07:43 am: |
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Nicely put, Ferbon(Post 354)
Another insight into "parallel" "DIMENSIONS" - from a thorough reading of many statements out of Meier's materials, AND from a logical context/provenance - is that when the use of the word 'dimension' in the English translations comes from many CR's, and Pleyaren-Meier discussions, THAT USE has NO connotative definition to simultaneous worlds,
- actually from a CLEAR-VIEW reading and understanding, . . . only to time-space indexes.
The second understanding, comes from the contemplation of Creation principles;
that which would lead to 'fake/false', no-evolutionary progression, 'buck-passing', licentiousness, escapism, megalomaniac and 'belief' systems - has no 'future' in Creation.
The use of "beliefs", unchallenged, emotionally driven, irrationally stated, self-serving megalomaniac ideas - (REALLY?) -  is this the pathway to becoming and understanding oneself?
Just look-at/read/ponder the many postings here on the Forum where such is used! How many of those are still drenched in the religious(all of the negative aspects), false thought processes which are binding those minds?
Really?(an expression)
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Shark_mode
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 08:25 am: |
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Dear Ferby,
You are saying " So Billy STEERS the little earth worms to concentrate on "One spirit form for one person."
... is another of many you managed to make about Meier which is not confirmed and actually there is no slightest indication in the materials or anywhere to back it up. Isn't it better to simply ask him and clarify things for sure instead of interpreting his mindset or actions?"
Ferb, I don't need to ask Billy every time. The name of the game is to think for yourself. My understanding of the spirit teaching enables me to interpret a particular mindset or action. I have never taken the high ground on this bleep forum and said that I have the answer. My purpose has always been to apply what I have learned... period.
Take care,
Anthony |
Shark_mode
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 08:35 am: |
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Dear Thomas,
You said, "Why DOES it appear/seen from your words that emotional, irrational actions are a way of life for you?"
I thought it was humor. I thought the whole amusement park snack bar thing was funny... especially funny when you consider it was coming from a shark.
You said, "Those of you who choose to leave this "sand box", due to having to account for the emotional, illogical tirades and evolving accountability required to progress; do you think you will really escape yourself?"
I'm not trying to escape myself. I am trying to constantly challenge myself. And like I said before, I am a major John Titor fan. I also wanted Pendrake to know that others out there in Billy-Meier-land are not as closed-minded as the senior posters here; and that he has a friend in me.
Well it seems the ride is over. Take care people. And don't forget to take a gas can with you when you run out of gas on the side of the road.
All the best,
Anthony |
Verlanis
Member
Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 03:11 pm: |
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Frankly, Billy is not "beating around the bush" on parallel dimensions. The Ps flatout state they live in a space-time configuration( not universe like the DAL) that is 3 seconds divergent in time from our own. This follows that each Spirit Form is unqiue and references only from itself.
The Time Travel scenario where you meet your past incarnation is akin to having two copies of a computer file saved as differently named files. That's the easiest physical analogy available I can think of for the scenario.
The easiest answer is that parallel dimensions do not exist, but parallel universes do. Our Space-time configuration would be different if we lived on Mars because the Math used to write the language would be divergent for charting time, specifically a divergent time sense of half an hour. For time travel, you are moving physically along in time just like driving to the market.
If you got stuck in time because of an accident then your "two" spirit forms would merge, the less advanced one being overwritten by the more advanced, one once both of the physical bodies have expired.
Jack --
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 09:18 pm: |
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Anthony;
Are you saying your beliefs give you gas?
I DID get the amusement park humour; what I referred to was from former postings where the words you used seemed very caustic, and did not address the points placed to you by others, as well as by me.
Enjoy your passage! |
Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 755
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 03:03 pm: |
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PLEASE - the topic here is time travel, and you are all requested show some restraint/self control to discuss that topic and not each other!
Salome
Robyn
Denken Sie für sich selbst!
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Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 120
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 01:50 pm: |
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Nice post, "Verlanis"/Jack!
Here is a post:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/6933.html#POST27579
that the discussion comes closer to the actual "why" dimensional existence, as described by many 'belivers'(spelling purposeful!) of Titor, Nichols, Basiago, and 'time-travel' shows - does NOT fall into those morasses.
There is another post, in the past of this section of the Forum, where chronon flow is discussed(about 2009), ANd at this site:
this is posted:
http://www.meiersaken.info/Time_Travel.html
One second as defined by Billy Meier
“One second equals the time light needs to travel 299'792, 5 km in space. A second however represents the tangible measurement of the speed constant and the 86'400 part of the middle solar day and the 9'192 '631' 770 times the period duration of the radiation from a Cäsium atom of the isotope 133 Cs. The second itself is subdivided into smaller units of value, such as nano-seconds, etc. Time itself consists of chronons, which is why the smallest unit of time is called a chronon. The number of chronons determines the second, where the chronons are related to present time. If these flow, by the expiry of time, into the past, then they become Tachyons, which will maintain the previous chronon speed, even when time has changed through the steady deceleration of the light constant.”
“Eine Sekunde entspricht der Zeit, die das Licht benötigt, um im Raum 299’792,5 Kilometer zurückzulegen. Die Sekunde jedoch stellt das materielle Mass der Geschwindigkeitskonstanten dar sowie der 86’400ste Teil der mittleren Sonnentages und das 9’192’631’770fache der Periodendauer der Strahlung eines Cäsiumatomes des Isotops 133 Cs. In sich selbst ist die Sekunde unterteilt in kleinere Werteinheiten, wie Nanosekunden usw. Die Zeit selbst besteht aus Chrononen, weshalb die kleinste Zeiteinheit Chronon genannt wird. Die Anzahl der Chrononen bestimmt die Sekunde, wobei die Chrononen gegenwartsbezogen sind. Fliessen diese durch den Ablauf der Zeit in die Vergangenheit, dann werden sie zu Tachyonen, die die vorherige Chronon-Geschwindigkeit beibehalten, auch wenn sich durch die stetige Verminderung der Lichtkonstante die Zeit Verändert.”
. . and if correctly translated and quoted, AND, accurate scientifically,
would eliminate the false reasoning of 'parallel' dimensions . . . .(opinions requested here!) |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 02:10 pm: |
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Another interesting - possible conclusion from the :
http://www.meiersaken.info/Time_Travel.html
The amount of cronons in a second Billy further writes that the chronon, as with other time units, consists of a certain wave-shaped distance which has a certain constant speed, as is the case with all types of waves. He goes on:
“The chronon has a wavelength or wave distance of 105 septillionth of 140 millimeters. (λ 14700 x 10 ^-24 mm, f= 20,39404762 x 10 ^ 30 hertz). Now, should the time of one second be measured, it is simply necessary to form a fixed flow point at which it is measured, how many chronons by this measurable point are passing through in the area from the beginning to the end of a beam of light of a certain length.
The number of chronons passing through gives, on one hand the speed of the second, on the other hand however, the distance as well. So if then for example from the beginning to the end of a light beam of 299 ’ 792.5 kilometres 20,39404762 x 10^30 (Nonillion) chronons passes through the measuring point then it gives the speed of a second with a passage distance of the light of 299 ’ 792,5 kilometers. This corresponds quite exactly to the current light second in kilometre, as well as one second as a small time unit of one earth day.”
German original
“Das Chronon weist eine Wellenlänge oder Wellendistanz von 105 Quadrillionstel von 140 Millimeter auf. (λ = 14700 x 10 hoch minus 24 mm, f = 20,39404762 x 10 hoch 30 Hz). Soll nun die Zeit einer Sekunde gemessen werden, so ist es einfach erforderlich, einen fixen Durchlaufpunkt zu bilden, an dem gemessen wird, wieviele Chrononen durch diesen Zählpunkt hindurchlaufen im Bereiche vom Anfang bis zum Ende eines Lichtstrahles von bestimmter Länge.
Die Anzahl der durchgelaufenen Chrononen ergibt einerseits die Geschwindigkeit der Sekunde, andererseits aber auch zugleich die Distanz. Laufen also zum beispiel vom Anfang bis zum Ende eines Lichtstrahles von 299’792,5 Kilometer 20,39404762 x 10 hoch 30 (Quintillionen) Chrononen durch den Zählenpunkt hindurch, dann ergibt das eine Sekunde Geschwindigkeit mit einer Durchlaufdistanz des Lichts von 299’792,5 Kilometer. Dies entspricht ganz genau der heutigen Lichtsekunde in Kilometer, sowohl aber auch einer Sekunde als kleine Zeiteinheit eines Erdentages.”
. . . tends to suggest a higher level Creationary directive of particle/wave relationships.
At THIS point, I am more concerned of attracting 'negative oriented' personalities to the discussion, as evolutionary development HAS far greater importance NOW, than does the revealing of particle-matter relationships, to accomplish 'time-traveling'.
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A mere reading of the past two months postings, and the renewed traction this Forum section has opened up, reveals there are still quite a few of adherents to "belief systems"(BS), who seem to be unable to leave those false processes and pathways.
(Not being judgmental, but careful in allowing all to evolve as they can) |
Thomas57
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| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2014 - 03:18 pm: |
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Yes; Robyn; You are correct in redirecting me to address the section idea, and not in any rebuttals to any others' P-O-V about me or my postings;
My Apologies to all - and I will see if I can evolve into such . . . .
Thomas |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 125
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 10:58 am: |
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http://iopscience.iop.org/0264-9381/11/5/001/pdf/0264-9381_11_5_001.pdf |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:00 am: |
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Another FTL data source:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1088.htm |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:39 am: |
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For those who are interested in a physics discussion see:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=720433 |
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