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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1207
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 04:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bill this is what Billy said about the Dark Order

'Even the powerful ones of the economy are feeling the might and obeying the evil laws of the dark order which is spreading its dangerous and fatal poison of hatred everywhere, into everything and against everyone who does not share the same opinion as the dark power'.

It's the 15th paragraph 2nd sentence.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/What_is_announced_comprehensively_for_the_third_millennium_prophetically_and_predictively
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Earthling
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren, hey, I'm no fan of Ms Hillary however that laugh of hers was not necessarily laughing at the triviality of nuking fellow humans but she may have been laughing at that old mans oh-so-easy thoughts towards that end without caring for the implications of it.

Also, one must fulfill 18 of those 70 traits to qualify as a psychopath. In any case, I'm sure she comes pretty damn close.
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Earthling
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation ... I don't know enough about all these subjects except to give my opinion based on limited knowledge from my limited perspective, of where I sit; so that said, take it fwiw

It's hard to argue that Iraq was & is anything but an epic disaster because of the unfeeling psycho's in control of things.

The Bosnian conflict seemed to be a matter of age-old hatred and sectarian divisions and the US was late to that party probably because no oil was involved or some other benefit, just like they don't meddle in the untold bloodshed that's gone on in Africa for ages.

It's too convenient to solely blame the CIA or SOG for Arab spring events. At best the place was a tinder-box and SOG lit the match but I'm in no position to know all the facts. Sure oil and US dollars were involved considering Mubarak had $30 billion of them & the same for Gaddafi, of which they stole from their own people. Same for the Syrian murderer. It's just too easy to blame the USA for everything is my opinion. I live here. The consciousness of everything from the politicians to biased media on both sides, to the material pursuits .. jeez, one can go on & on & on ... Billy is here for a reason and it's not because we got it all together and that goes for the consciousness of the entire planet's citizenry, not just in the US. Billy's work won't be done here for another 2,000 years, so obviously things are @#$%^-up. In general, the US bashing is just old & unproductive and it's a problem those here have to solve, else some, part or more of those prophecies will come to pass and lessons will be learned the hard way.

I know that Kingworld site and A Maguire. Kingworld caters to precious metals conspiracy theorists, They must be in the metals brokerage business. Listening to that site & reading it are like reading the bible - there's a helluva lot of chaff to go through to get to the wheat.
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Darren
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, I think Hillary Clinton has FAR more then 18 of 70 traits to qualify as a psychopath.

Here is my GUESS at the number of psychopathic traits she appears to have. Feel free to point out which ones you think may not be correct, and let me know how many traits you think she has and if it surpass 18.

1. Lack of logical decisions
2. Lack of rational conduct
3. Irresponsible activity
6. Making untenable promises, breaking them
7. Exaggerated thoughts and feelings with regard to the values of the own person
8. Pretended, i.e. feigned charm
10. Deceitful behaviour
12. Deficiency with regard to real and long-term results in many forms and wises
13. Manipulative behaviour with regard to the fellow human beings
14. Selfish lifestyle
15. Dazzling, i.e. seducing and deluding, of the fellow human beings
16. Lack of a guilt-consciousness
17. Lack of behavioural control
18. Imponderability
19. Imperiousness according to the principle of "after me the deluge"
20. Consciencelessness
21. Pathological craving to defame
22. Sense of unfairness
24. Endorsement of the death penalty
25. Endorsement of torture
26. Hate mentality
27. Egoism
28. Penchant for guilefulness, deceit
30. Lack of guilt consciousness
31. Lack of bearing responsibility
32. Lack of deep-reaching thoughts and feelings
33. Lack of behavioural control
34. Lack of self-responsibility
35. Absence of concernment and feelings for others
36. The absence of setting long-term and realistic results to be achieved
37. Remorselessness
38. Lack of empathy
39. Coldness of thoughts and feelings
40. Irresponsibility towards fellow human beings
41. Willingness for revenge and retaliation
42. Intriguefulness
43. Might-behaviour/greed for might
44. Irresponsible speeches
46. Great criminal energy
48. Violation of laws, recommendations, ordinances, regulations, prohibitions and directions, and so on.
49. Break of promises
50. Lack of self control
51. Unhonesty
52. Disloyalty
53. Scruplelessness
54. Authoritarian
55. Penchant for sadism
56. Falseness, deviousness
57. Willingness for acts of fighting and war
58. Pathological craving for profit
59. Avariciousness
61. Penchant for harassment/mobbing
62. Self-praise, self-adulation
63. Penchant for denunciation
64. Pathological angriness
65. Lack of remorse
66. Lack of ability to have deep feelings for the others
69. Lack of self-cognition
70. Unconcernedness

http://au.figu.org/question_romney.html
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Ferbon
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know who Hillary is, but I would better made sure I am not on the list with my own conduct.
Me - I can still change...while I wish you all luck with reasoning with Hilary.

btw. If someone replies that this post is "spot on", or that he/she thanks me a lot for shearing...I will haunt you in your dreams - I promise.

Salome
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Darren just for the sake of accuracy the list contains only 59 items.

4,5,9,11,23,29,45,47,60,67 and 68 are missing.

Someone, I can't remember who, with a keen eye for details pointed out that items 17 and 33 were exactly the same.

Looks like 16 and 30 is almost practically the same too.

My pet dog use to eat and chew on a lot of things but.................
He he
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce if there is one thing that people don't like to hear anywhere you go and maybe even on this forum is to be told by someone else that their country and their fellow countrymen is bad or that they are this or that in a negative light and this I understand really but I have to reiterate that even if I don't understand everything about the state of the world, people and even the spiritual teachings at least I know enough about what Billy said to deem it important to call an orange an orange and an apple an apple.

I am also of the view that if I am willing to give then I sure better be ready to also be willing to take.

But I am not in this to play the shallow game of the silly and very childish blame game.
But inevitably when you do call an orange an orange and an apple an apple you cannot but come across as someone who does appear to do this.

Yet let's not fall pray to mixing words and beating about the bush as the spiritual path of life does demand the strict discipline in honesty.

Now the list of crimes committed by the CIA and the US Americans are so long that it'll be like attempting to unroll a supersized roll of toilet paper you get in megamall dunnies.

It's literally un-be-lieve-able but just as Billy calls them out for what they truly are you have to then wonder 'has our prophet of the new age gone ga ga by wasting time with all this stuff or is there a very good reason why he is going at all lengths even at the expense of his security to call them out?'

So it does make you come to the only inevitable conclusion that silence is cowardly and not speaking out is akin to having committed these crimes yourself.

I don't limit myself to this forum only with my criticisms of course but more importantly that I not fail to look at myself in the mirror lest I become the worse hypocrite calling the kettle black and deriving satisfaction from my know-it-all-ism and usurping myself above others (well I hope not).

Anyway there appears to be strange mood of impassive stolidity and diffident apathy about people where I am and this practically extends to the whole strata of society that seems almost too self concerned and egotistically apathetic towards the plight of others to care for what's going beyond their immediate lives.

I often hear 'don't be concerned about anything else except your life as you can't change anything anyway so why be stupid worrying about these useless things when life is short as it is for you to be concerned about what others do'

Well you know where such short sighted and stupid advice leads to (the sinking of passenger ferry 'Sewol')

So my point being although the US government and it's citizens are not the only people creating untold suffering and pain it so happens that the list of crimes of Big Brother is so vast and still continues to this day that you cannot help but predominantly talk about the US.

So I hope you understand that it isn't about bashing the US but more importantly telling it like it is about it.

As long as the problem still exists so will the dialogue along these lines and it's not trying to preach to the choir either.
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Earthling
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren, so you are saying the Hillary has all 70!?

maybe, when I read them all!

I stand corrected ... she likely qualifies
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Obama is not following the Constitution of the USA. He is picking and choosing which Laws he wants to follow. I'm blown away. He seems like he out of touch & doesn't care. I think if he could he would resign. Or this so-called "Dark Order" is controlling & ruining him.
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Darren
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation,

The missing numbers is not a mistake. That list is my guess of Hillary's psychopathic traits. It was a wild biased guess and a bit of a joke too. :-)

Bruce,

No, but I think Mitt Romney may have all 70 traits!
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Recognizing the good in a person helps to bring it out.
Life
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Darren
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm,

It probably is this "Dark Order" and OTHERS controlling Obama. He does not have full control of his country. I think it's best to remember what Billy said two years ago about Obama, or be it, about the US president.

Billy -
"Obama is still the best man the U.S. ever had as a president.
A president of the U.S. is not as powerful as many people believe. There are all kinds of shady machinations going on behind his back. And during the last 3 years much dirt and mud was thrown into his path by the Republicans and other factions."

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12258.html#POST60968
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Achim_wolf
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also in this category:

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen

Please note the new petition "Nominate BEAM ‹Billy› Eduard Albert Meier for den peace Nobel prize!"

https://www.change.org/de/Petitionen/nominierungsberechtigte-personen-und-organisationen-nominieren-sie-beam-billy-eduard-albert-meier-f%C3%BCr-den-friedensnobelpreis-nominate-beam-billy-eduard-albert-meier-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-2#share

http://tinyurl.com/lhk8tvc

Thank you very much

With kind regards
Achim Wolf
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Earthling
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation .. not much to say other than, I agree with your gist; the US has a history, which also continues to this day, of abuse and misuse of power to obtain even more power, control, and that includes walking over the dead after they've murdered them to steal the wallets off their corpses and oil from their backyards. All this is well known around these parts. However what isn't spoken much is how far worse has gone on all over the world for millenia and also to ones own peoples, and still occurs to this day, in Syria, Africa, for ex.

My view is that this focus solely on the US is not only preaching to the choir here but unbalanced, in that the US does not have a monopoly on murder, mayhem, sowing discord, abuse & misuse of power, etc., which does not excuse the US from its crimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh I see that explains it
Good on ya Darren
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come to think of it you are right Bruce.
This conversation on this topic has inevitably met its 'dead end get nowhere' end.
I guess its the proverbial human trait to want to blame someone or something outside of themselves for one's impotence, incompetence, ineffectiveness, failures, self created problems, frustrations and bad decisions in life.
We humans want to always try to find the solution to our problems and unhappiness out there somewhere rather than look for it where it always is close to one's own breath within one's interior
We also failed to see that even if we are separate entities we are nonetheless one with everything as we are inextricably interconnected and intertwined with everything else that exists alongside of us and with other human beings.
We are essentially one body one mind/consciousness.
Also other people's failures as well as happiness, pain, joys, suffering, good fortune, conflict, successes, misfortunes and luck are also our own just as much as ours is to them.
The despots and rulers of this world are also part of us that reflects a part piece of us just as the genuine love and peace lovers are also part of us.
We are all in this together as one even if we as individuals represents the extreme ends of the spectrum and fail to see this truth.
Billy did say wisely 'do not revile your friends, do not revile your enemies nor the young and old as they are all creatures of Creation that must be afforded the same respects as inviolable creatures.

I like the negativity and well as the positivity inherent within myself and also within others for surely how could anyone know what hell is like if they don't know what heaven is and how could anyone know joys if they don't also know pain.
Life is truly a balancing act and I mean quite literally.
And how right Billy and the Plejaren always are
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Votan
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Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott

What is going on with Malaysian Airlines. MH17 and the other awhile back, are they related in any way. Can Billy shed any light on the subject.
joe
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Vincent
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Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Votan,

Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was clearly a case of mistaken identity wasn't it? It flew over a war zone when at that time other airlines were not because it was a war zone and because military cargo planes were being shot down. That is what it appears to me.

I do not know why our media is treating it like it was deliberate murder as though they knew it was a passenger airplane.

At this same time, I do not like how our media is not condemning Israel for deliberately committing mass murder in Palestine. If there was a person inside a housing block who was firing at police, would the police fire a rocket into that housing block to kill that person if it meant other innocent peoples in that building would be killed too? No, and if they did, it would be called mass murder.
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please lets get back to the topic of Misc. FIGU.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Monday, July 21, 2014 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ferbon,
Under a different topic you ask me if I lived near a FIGU, I do not thing that will ever happen until everyone wakes up. I have a birth/birthing certificate which under maritime means I belong to the corporation of the Americas, which falls under the India tea company. Before the war of 1812 a 13th amendment was voted in to kick out people with titles, but this was removed and was erased. So in accordance with maritime law and Blacks Law dictionary I am still property of the India tea company known as the Republic of the United States of America inc. property of London, London. Maybe I am wrong, but even the Queen of England has to surrender her sword to cross this part of her country. Washington DC and the Vatican everyone knows about, but London, London seems very while hidden. Where I life companies with no spirit have more legal rights than I do, and can not be put in prison for anything they do. These has been so since before Jamestown and Sir Walter Raleigh. So to follow the rules of FIGU I would have to live in a democracy to even stand a chance I was not born in such a place. So to fully answer your question no their are no FIGU centers anywhere near me.
123OM
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Kiwilove
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is probably the wrong forum? But here goes...

I am interested in breakthroughs in science and technology etc etc.
The Plejaren gave some information regarding Nikola Tesla - but didn't confirm whether any of his ideas etc were to bear fruit in the future? Anyway they don't seem to confirm his genius and his proposed inventions, etc...

But I wonder about other visionaries/inventors/etc who could advance our technology etc as much.
Such as Ed Leedskalnin (Builder of 'Coral Castle' who appeared to have master megalithic building, on the same scale of the Pyramids and other such structures). There are two devices of his - that seem to interest people today - his PMH (perpetual motion holder) and his flywheel device (which probably produced electricity?) and his text "How Magnetic (Electric) Current Works". He says they are the one and the same.
Also John Searl and Viktor Schauberger comes to mind.

Anyway Ed Leedskalnin's inventions could well provide each household to have their own electricity generator? Likewise with John Searl's invention - of special magnets moving in a rotary motion (Leedskalnin's flywheel is similar - yet different). Cost wise, Ed's technology is much much cheaper to manufacture, since Ed using stuff from junkyards. Searl's technology is much more sophisicated to manufacture and build - ie. expensive to build.

Harvey
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Friday, September 19, 2014 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.space.com/27193-andromeda-and-milky-way-slow-dance-to-merger-animation.html

I wonder why the P's aren't to interested in this upcoming merger in about 5 billion years or so? I realize it's quite some time to go but it is an important juncture in time for the Milky Way as a whole.
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Blake_p
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Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This will probably interest people;

Not sure if it's been posted anywhere else but here is some info that Christian confirmed for me.
I asked about the missing items and the weird happenings of Billy's computer,that they originally thought it was one of the three groups,or possibly future humans time traveling,collecting souvenirs or something.


Hi Blake,

Yes, that's correct. But the full sphere is not "visible", of course. And they also made sure that the water pipe (incoming water) and electric power lines are also shielded.

Salome,
Christian

Am 18.09.2014 um 01:03 schrieb Blake Parnell:
Christian;

Hey Christian,I don't want to take up any unnecessary amount of your time but I just wanted to confirm some information I received recently,and has been a curiosity for many others probably for a while.
In the contacts Billy and Ptaah talk about the missing items from the center and problems with Billy's computer from an unknown source. They had speculations but didn't know for sure.

What I heard was that the Sonaer and the P's concerned themselves with this and found out that the fluidal forces of over 6 billion religious people penetrated underground where the Plejaren did not have a protective shield completely around the center( meaning underground to complete a full sphere around the center).

So I was just curious if you could confirm that is what happened and that they fixed it by enclosing the shield to a full sphere.

Thanks
Blake P

So apparently the fluidal forces of over 6 billion delusionally religious people penetrated underground into Billy's computer,and also made items disappear from the center.
Certainly gives credence that our thoughts have might and affect all things. Pretty interesting.
I wonder if it's more concentrated towards the center because of Billy,the Mission,and what goes on there,and if it's the same everywhere,meaning,the same amount of thought force,how does that affect us on a daily basis who aren't shielded by a protective shield?

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