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    Kiriona New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2015 |
To Billy, Your Family FIGU, and our Friends the Plejarans, Thank you Billy for all your years of dedication and commitment to the cause. Thanks also to your family and FIGU for the same. You have done a fantastic job of spreading the message in such harsh and life threatening circumstances. I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that we have the Plejarans at our side to help us and my heartfelt thanks go out to you all our special guides I am new to the awakening and have only discovered you and the Plejarans over the last few weeks via the internet. Arohanui Kii Aa Koutou Kaatoa (Immense Love To You All) Kiriona | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 783 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Joe/Votan I do not know if there was any connection with the Bafath. Yet, it is possible that Kaliope was responding to the negative impulse from the Bafath, who knows? ^_^ http://billybooks.org | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 784 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Grant/Meditating farmer As far as I understand, yes, Methi is psychically troubled, he should consult a doctor. http://billybooks.org | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 785 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Hugo Ha ha, I do not know ^_^ It seems that Billy gave her this nick name very early in the contact with the Plejaren, long before her temper getting worse. In those early days, both Billy and the Plejaren are helping Kaliope in many ways so that she may improve herself, it was all within the contact notes. http://billybooks.org | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 786 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Kiriona Welcome aboard, have a nice stay ^_^ http://billybooks.org | ||
Kiriona New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2015 |
Hi Savio , Thanks Kiriona | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 377 Registered: 12-2011 |
Can somebody please explain the difference between killing a person in peace time as to killing in war time. Both are murder. In war time you are a hero and get medals for killing a lot of people. How naive is humanity and brainwashed. Also Tesla had the technology that Billy was told not to divulge to us when he said he can crack the earth in two and also the universe. Any comments on these subjects. joe | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1071 Registered: 07-2009 |
> As Meier said, one has not only the right but the responsibility to defend and protect their life and the lives of innocents. If in the process of doing so against someone who threatens those lives the attacker is killed, there is no fault to the defender. And that applies in peace or war times. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 04-2011 |
Reflections on the Kalliope*) Discussion “Karma” as taught by Indian religions may not be part of the Spirit Teachings. But cause and effect still connect past and present environments (even the facial features of "re-incarnations" may show similarities: e.g. Semjase re the profile of Plato and O. Muck). After reading the recent discussions about Kalliope – one is reminded of Socrates’ wife Xanthippe Her name Xanthippe (“Yellow Horse”) may indicate that she came from a well educated Greek family. She was – according to some accounts – some 40 years younger than Socrates and gave him 3 sons. Plato and Xenophon may have portrayed her as a devoted wife. But in other circles her anger was much talked about. See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthippe (Character) But Socrates chose her precisely because of her argumentative spirit. His choice seems to imply that overcoming difficulties in life does assist in the evolution of one’s consciousness.. To be fair to Xanthippe one should mention the times and customs of ancient Greece: E.g. older men usually not only had a wife but befriended as well younger men. Even if this was often only a “platonic love” – it still may have caused some wives to be jealous. It seems plausible that past events that resulted in fits of anger will recur again so that a person is able to make amends by reacting differently. But many times humans cannot see that they continuously meet "themselves" - again and again - in order to reform their consciousness. More often their judgment is too "narrow", too focused on their present environments - they cannot see that the true reason is a recurrence, giving them another chance to grow. In addition they have – as we discussed (gene manipulation) not long ago - a tendency to exaggerate (e.g. to overpopulate or display, (in public and privately) flares of anger/bullying/greed/posturing etc.) "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." Albert Einstein Initially these words reminded me of Billy's teaching to try to match one extreme attitude with its opposite - as if to say the creational forces of our universe will always aim for a balance (similar to the principle that each thesis attracts an antithesis until ultimately both combine in a synthesis) But maybe we should just come to a different understanding why humans have “imperfections”: The ultimate reason that humans have failings (e.g. anger) is that they may gain a deep sense of understanding and compassion with humans that have similar failings (e.g. anger) – and by assisting them to master these failings they free their own consciousness from the excesses in the past (e.g. balance their anger sentiments and regain freedom). This process will as well assist in creating a consciousness that is - step by step - opening up to a greater and greater oneness: So called "enemies" lose their so called "hostilities" - preparing the human consciousness for an ever increasing unity with our universe. Thus declares the (in his youth “Angry" but then for 50 years "Very Peaceful") Ashoka: “… The welfare I desire for my children – I desire for all men…All men are my children…” So, perhaps, we should not overly discuss “transitory personalities”, but instead see a person’s (i.e. Kalliope’s) failing in a larger context. and constantly remind us that ultimately all beings (i.e. ourselves as much as Billy and Kalliope *) ) in this universe deserve our respect. “The first step in human evolution of ethics is a sense of solidarity with other human beings.” Albert Schweitzer Evolution is the evolution of our consciousness towards universal oneness. It opens itself if we seek the eternal oneness underneath our fleeting worlds. When we realize that there is a part of us in each person that we meet. And are willing to greet our environments with a “We” rather than “I”. Salome, Bill *) Kalliope is Greek for “Beautifully Voiced” | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 12-2011 |
Scott NASA have just discovered a planet similar to earth 1,400 light years away. Earth2.00;Kepler 452b. Has Billy mentioned anything about this planet and is there human life there. I will ask Billy in August if you are unable to answer. joe | ||
Tetrahedron Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 06-2014 |
Today was a wonderful day of belly dancing and the like, and I couldnt help but notice a ufo as I was coming home(perhaps they realized I was the only guy there?). There seems to be a fair bit of contention here regarding one seeing ufo and then putting into question, "Do you have evidence", "when where why", "was it a drone", etc. None I can really answer and some I dont want too. Everything rational would correlate it to my previous ufo encounters and sightings, so an interesting day. Onward, perhaps one can proxy through billy to make conversation with say ptaah? I ponder this as I do think that people should have some right to make some contact and telepathic is a start. I dont think billy is the only one who does it, and I think it would be a serious mistake or flaw if he where the only one. according to CR 112 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_112 , male life form plejars only do it with their peers. And according to it again, the male form is incomplete and there for gives into rhythm? That part made no sense to me, and it gives to reference to what exactly a full fledge male form is, or why thats relevant. The rest goes off into a bias against it alleging inharmony. Poor billy and semjase havent seen much of anything good it seems or dont know much about dance. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1079 Registered: 07-2009 |
As far as UFOs goes, please realize that the greater number of them, by far, are secret military craft. Conversation with Ptaah? What's wrong with prioritizing studying the spiritual teaching and all of the information, contemplating and processing it within our selves and discussing it with each other? Would a kindergartener want to "make conversation" with an astrophysicist when they have a long, long way to go before such an interaction (on the subject matter) wouldn't be a waste of time, ever so brief as it would be anyway? You also may want to look into male hula dancing and Russian Cossack dancing for examples of very virile, male dancing forms. | ||
Kiriona Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2015 |
Hi Tetrahedron and ALL, This reply is not in response to your post but a few questions about what is happening: 1. Does FIGU have a comment on the recent actions of the Good ET Sphere Alliance (which may include Plejarans) - Barriers and potential ET Disclosure and Opposition to the Cabal and it's warhorse? 2. Is this maybe why I can't start a new post on these discussion boards? 3. Sorry - that is why I'm posting here by reply. Maungaarongo (Peace) Kiriona | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1080 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Hi Kiriona, From where does that information come and are you assuming it's true? | ||
Tetrahedron Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 06-2014 |
Im sticking with belly dancing, and as for priorities, Im quite sure I have them right at this point. Otherwise im sure the "astrophysist" would have at least pointed towards billy assuming (s)he was actually that good, but that of course never happened. Its also possible what billy went through was a military program. Good e.t. sphere allience, ive never heard it and honestly sounds silly  If disclosure would ever happen it would likely be tremendously violent given how much control is based on the notion of no extraterrestrial existence. While I dont welcome the violence, I would welcome forced disclosure. | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 230 Registered: 05-2011 |
Michael, Again, your ignorance in comparing male virility between your western term of “male hula dancing” which is a corruption of its original form called “Hula Kahiko” and those of Russian Cossack are out of line. The Hawaiians also included male war dances as well, but you seem to only point out the sexuality aspect and fail to mention the complexity of Hawaiian culture as one of the most complex of all Earthly forms of communication, because like the German language, there are many “hidden” meanings of its words even for modern linguistics studying this language. Now about your other issue with UFO’s, most currently seen are of Earthly design, however there are a few that are not. Those that respond to telepathic communications have technology beyond those Earthly crafts and if you think its not possible, then go forward these coordinates directly to Billy so he can confirm it with the Plejarens. I have described the first two in detail on the FIGU forum and will not repeat myself to those who are too ignorant and plainly stupid to accept the fact that there are some who have telepathic responses besides Billy himself. Dates are approximate, but latitude and longitude are accurate: Dec 1980 apx 11:30 zulu, 22 degree 13 minutes North / 159 degrees 26 minutes West Apx 8 years ago 730 zulu – 1200 zulu, 21 degree 19 minutes North / 157 degree 52 minutes West. Apx 2 years ago 1130 zulu, 21 degree 30 minutes North /158 degree 0 minutes West. And lastly, who gives you the right to say that only BEAM and nobody else has the capacity or potential to make contact with advanced ET’s either telepathically or otherwise? They way you bully others on this forum, is certainly why they won’t even consider you as a contact, as the Plejaren has indicated the possibility of such encounters with FIGU core members when other Federation members visit SSSC. Studying BEAM materials and not making an honest effort in evolving spiritually without constantly seeking advice from BEAM is not actually productive in nature as one will not fully develop their own potentials if they do not really seek out the answers by themselves and become like any cult religion, seeking answers from outside their spheres of influences. As I have said repeatedly, for material beings, it is within the dream realms that most closely resembles their next evolutionary stage, which is the half material and where physical laws not longer applies (see 6th and 7th sense PdF file for reference). It is in the dream realms where higher forms (ET’s) influence the material Earthly humans and yet the vast majority will not or cannot influence their own dreams because most do not even have the capacity to properly meditate in the waking states, yet cannot fathom the fact that they can also meditate with great difficulty in the dream realms. There is a connection between these two types of meditation, it is a logical function that requires a very high degree of self disciplined self awareness to include telepathy. The question should be asked, “why should one not also influence their own dreams” as a logical function of evolution? Virility is commonly associated with vigour, health, sturdiness, and constitution, especially in the fathering of children. In this last sense, virility is to men as fertility is to women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virility Hula dancing is a complex art form, and there are many hand motions used to represent the words in a song or chant. For example, hand movements can signify aspects of nature, such as the swaying of a tree in the breeze or a wave in the ocean, or a feeling or emotion, such as fondness or yearning. Foot and hip movements often pull from a basic library of steps including the kaholo, ka'o, kawelu, hela, 'uwehe, and 'ami. There are other related dances (tamure, hura, 'aparima, 'ote'a, haka, kapa haka, poi, Fa'ataupati, Tau'olunga, and Lakalaka) that come from other Polynesian islands such as Tahiti, The Cook Islands, Samoa, Tonga and Aotearoa (New Zealand); however, the hula is unique to the Hawaiian Islands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hula | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 893 Registered: 12-2009 |
Tet, Military programs would not have been that sophisticated over 70 years ago, when Billy's contacts started. On the other hand, it's possible that Billy is telling the truth, and has contacts with extraterrestrials that belong to a federation that spans billions of light years, and these contacts are of the nature, that no one else on Earth, can, or will, partake in, for good reasons. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 894 Registered: 12-2009 |
Tet, I would say, I've noticed over the years, that most people's problems with the Meier case, is that it does not fit into people's preconceived ideas about what they think extraterrestrial contacts should be like, and consist of, which traces back to their own false ideas, and false agendas. For many people, which is currently a small majority, the spiritual teaching is good enough a product, that they are satisfied, me included. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1085 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hawaiian, The word pakalolo comes to mind when I read your comments. Am I possibly accurate about this influence? An honest answer, please. You do manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with great regularity. Regarding my mention of “Hula Kahiko” and Russian Cossack dancing, my point was that these are two examples of the expression of masculine energy in dance, as opposed to what we call belly dancing, which Tet referred to. I don't think that is arguable. I didn't mention MANY other aspects of either of these two cultures, as it wasn't pertinent to the points I was making. You may notice that I didn't express my interest in either Hawaiian or Russian cuisine either. Do you ever get...the munchies? If I don't forward the time coordinates, will you take it that I have something against...Zulus? Just asking. Regarding telepathy, dreams and other contacts, as I often say, "According to the information in the case..." Regarding contacts with the Plejaren, they've stated that these won't happen with any other Earth humans, take it up with them. BTW, you are aware that I was within 20' of one of their monitoring craft in the mountains of Brazil, October 3, 2011, 10:03 PM, right? And you also know that they passed specific, prophetically accurate info to me through Meier, right? That doesn't make me a contactee. Or perhaps I should say it does...ONLY in my dreams. Aloha | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1086 Registered: 07-2009 |
P.S. Mr. Hawaiian, In case you...forgot, please comment on your personal familiarity with pakalolo. I ask because it could possibly explain your interest in dreams and in purposely ignoring Meier's answers that contradict your assertions about them. | ||
Kiriona Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2015 |
Hi Michael, Not sure if a reply I sent from my phone got through so I'll repost my thoughts here: 1. Look at spherebeingalliance.com. 2. I pick and choose what I view etc then use my intuition. 3. It seems feasible. 4. I would really like input from our Plejarans, BEAM or FIGU. Maungaarongo Kiriona | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 12-2011 |
Church of Scientology seems to come up often and never a kind word. Why do people join, is it because they are weak and need somebody to give them a feeling good lolly. All religion does that . They tell you that you are weak and we will make you strong. How stupid are people ? joe | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 928 Registered: 05-2008 |
Mr or Ms Hawaiian what does it mean in dreaming when one lurks in the shadows, like a snake, and then when the opportunity presents itself and the stalked has triggered the trap, the snake leaps out of the shadows and injects some venom into the unsuspecting forum passerby? Also, you familiar with Carlos the Castaneda? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Dreaming http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce |
