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    Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1436 Registered: 07-2005 |
I think my 350+ year answer was from Christian who was asked by our friends from FIGU Australia on my behalf. Whether 5000 or 350 we still don't know much about their activities other than what we've been given thus far. At one point I thought they were the ones making the crop circles, doing the Randlesham forest fracas, playing a crude joke on Betty and Barney Hill, abducting Travis Walton, showing their ship to the father of Ufology, downing the system at nuclear missile silos, being involved in 1982 Japan airline incident, the Pheonix lights incident and many others that Greer's witnesses testfied to. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 920 Registered: 12-2009 |
Blake: OK, keep us posted, that would be interesting information, that would obviously bring about more questions, like it did for you, if it is in the recent material. Mat (Bronzedesk): what you say makes sense. I think of these things too, about the US, and the future of the mission, and the people in AZ. I hope to move there to AZ, where everyone is at, in two years, so I can have people in my life that are involved in the mission (right now I have no one, the forums are my only outlet), but I have to wait until my daughter is 18, before I can move away from my current location, as part of my divorce/child custody agreement. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2011 |
The practicing of walking the walk and talking the talk with perspective and unconditional love. 195) The giving and taking, presentation and acceptance shall also be a bequest for you, you humankind of Earth, and indeed to your fellow human beings, to whom you shall selflessly give and help in all things where there is hardship; thus you shall also pass on your knowledge and your wisdom of the teaching of the truth, the teach ing of the spirit and the teaching of the life to your next ones and your fellow human beings, if they ask for it; you shall however also bring forward understanding for the misery and the hardship as well as for the inabilities of your next ones and fellow human beings, so that you helpfully turn to them in the right wise, for which you will in turn receive thanks. 196) And if you act seriously in this wise, then you will also receive help back, namely in that new energy and there out power will grow in you, because you will feel well and be full of joy and satisfaction. Goblet of the Truth - Teaching of the Prophets - Beam - Chapter 25 200) Consider always that your thoughts and the there out resulting feelings are swinging-wave-based energies with great power, that form themselves in the consciousness and become forms that strike your fellow human beings and bring forth distinct effects in them; these energy-rich and powerful swinging waves however also store themselves as fluidal-powers in your personal things, in your skeleton and in places where you live etc., thus they outlast your life on Earth and your body and continue to bring forth effects long after you. 201) And consider, you humankind of Earth, also your true love contains great swinging-wave-based energies and powers, therefore you shall be concerned about letting the love in you become ever greater and letting it grow in your fellow human beings, so that all will be involved in it and are peaceful, harmonious and free amongst one another. Goblet of the Truth - Teaching of the Prophets - Beam - Chapter 25 202) Consider, love is the true way of the truth and of the life, and if you do deeds of the love, then these will follow you, so love will therefore also be given to you in return. 203) Even thought-creations are works that catch up to you again, namely depending on how they are formed in the negative or positive, so they build light or dark swinging waves in you which you must get through in order to get into your consciousness-world; no help and also no protection can be offered to you from outside in this, since you live in self-determination and therefore only you alone can help yourselves; so the first step and every step thereafter must come from you yourselves, and you yourselves determine whether the first step and every step thereafter will be easy or heavy, because this lies in your thought- and feeling-world, through which you determine the volition in the negative or positive, so the heaven or the hell lies in you yourselves, depending on how you decide in the good or evil. Goblet of the Truth - Teaching of the Prophets - Beam - Chapter 25 Thanks to Valdemar Reis and Evelyn Volmer: Goblet of the Truth - Teaching of the Prophets- Beam Bronzedesk (Mat) And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Matthewhurley Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 09-2014 |
I remember asking Billy years ago on this forum , what races are coming here , what do they look like , what are their motivations. Just received a very brief reply not really answering my direct questions. There could be a number of reasons behind this. For example, maybe the non Plejaran races don't want their cover blown. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 339 Registered: 07-2012 |
Well, I haven't heard back from CF about the four groups and the 5000 years,etc. but I do remember where I saw that excerpt, it was on Facebook and it was a piece of what was said to be contact 620. I looked on F.O.M and there's no 620 but there is a 701, so if anyone can find 620 and investigate that would be appreciated. Bothering me. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 65 Registered: 04-2015 |
Blake, There is a "new" partial translation of contact report 620 on FOM http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_620 | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 932 Registered: 05-2008 |
Moderators, sorry, I posted a bad link above regarding what Blake was looking for about aliens being here for 5000 years. Can you please replace that link with the following one, thanks. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2014/05/readers-questions-excerpts-from-577th.html http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1438 Registered: 07-2005 |
Cheers Bruce Now I am more confused than ever I just can't seem to put this thing together If I got what Ptaah said correctly the 4 groups have been here on earth intermittently for the last 5000 years and not 350 years. My assumption is that 350 years was meant as a visit to earth on a permanent basis with stations and all. Now 5000 years thing throws a wrench in the work Why? Because they were said to be time travelers. Well 2 of them at least. Even this figure 2 is a misnomer. How could the 3 groups who are essentially 1 group of the same people with the addition of the other 1 group become 2 groups all of a sudden. Or didn't the Plejaren investigate the other 2 when they shared their info with Billy. Ok now was this 5000 years meant to refer to all 4 groups, 3 or just 2? And does this 5000 years figure referring to the first time they started physically visiting earth in person beamship and all or was it referring to when they first started time travelling to earth. Since they were referred to as future time travelers meaning people who came from the future does this 5000 years be referring to how far back in time in earth's history they managed to travel to. Or more occam razorly and just no frills simply was it just meant that they visited earth since 3000 BC. Man it doesn't end there If so why are their technology just a tad bit developed than us earthworms if they managed to do intersteller travel such a long time ago. Didn't they work at it. Did they encounter a near extinction catastrophe and had to start over again. Are we going to have one of them 'sixth sense' movie moment where Shayamalan's Bruce Willis's character revelationesque type ah ha scenario will be served in the next installment of Billy and Ptaah's conversation about them Gees I am figuratively seeing one of them superman fly around the earth rings around my head from Billy and Ptaah running rings around our minute intelligence that I can't see past the rings. If Billy's answer ended up being that part of this 4 groups was none other than the ET Barden who didn't all kill themselves at Tunguska then this has got to be a better ending than the sixth sense movie moment. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 340 Registered: 07-2012 |
Bruce, Good looking out!! Good to know my memory still works and my breakfast cereal hadn't been spiked with hallucinogens. Well, that opens a lot of questions....why have they been here so long,what is there connection to us, what are they doing here/purpose? Anyway thought that was interesting when I read it,thanks for the post. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 921 Registered: 12-2009 |
So Blake was right! Yes it brings up a lot of questions. Since they (one group future-earth related, and one group parallel-space related) are working with Terran's from the future, they obviously want us as allies, and since they have been here for 5000 years, they will probably wait until we have caught up with our future selves, and we are a tad more positive, to get us as allies. Since in the CR they were always listed as a group of 3, then recently they were listed as a group of 4, I started thinking, maybe this 4th group started because they are working with future Terrans, and the extra group is a recent addition/development?!? Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 650 Registered: 08-2010 |
If I recall correctly, they are 200 years more advanced technologically. They do not suffer with the aggressive-gene manipulation. They must be trying to figure out at which point do we become mature enough for contact. But they will make contact. I don't recall them being from the future but from somewhere in the Milky Way galaxy. Salome, Eddie | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1439 Registered: 07-2005 |
Good on ya Blake By the looks of things on your photo old age has yet to catch up with you by a few decades to be causing any dementia like symptoms now. And why didn't I see this coming The real time travelers were right under our noses. And they are the Plejaren shifted by a fraction of a second. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 342 Registered: 07-2012 |
Newinitiation, Ha,yea...I'm only 34 so let's hope none of that pops up anytime soon,thanks for the posts everybody,I was as interested as you all to figure this thing out. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 372 Registered: 11-2008 |
Eddie, Who is 200 years technologically more advanced than we are and in which contact report was this mentioned? | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 652 Registered: 08-2010 |
It is reference to a statement by Ptaah that these four visitors stationed around the planet are 200 years more technically advanced. This sounds logical considering that they are not members of the Federation and have the technology to travel here and observe/monitor our planet. I think Earthling posted a link to the Contact above. Salome, Eddie | ||
Barbatruco New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2015 |
Hi guys. Navigating through internet on the stuff of "the new era" I read about a stuff called "orgonite" There are many guys out there that claim that the "orgonite" really works and even they create "cloud busters" with that! There are some experiments performed of a glass of water in the freezer with an "orgonite" at the base of the glass, and at the center of the glass the ice show a shaft of some chaotic freezing patterns. I don't know how you see that stuff about the "orgonite" but despite that experiment, I find ridiculous that that stuff can work in the modification of the atmosphere. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 04-2015 |
If there is one group from our future "selves" working with these other ET groups, does that mean that they could also be working together to help stop WW3/4 from happening too? | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 373 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hugo, It is impossible for the future Earth humans to help prevent a world war from happening because to them our present time is their past which means what has happened in the past cannot be undone. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 374 Registered: 11-2008 |
Eddie, Could you please tell me in which contact report does it say that these 4 groups, or one group of these four groups, are about 200 years ahead of us? The reason why I am asking is because I think you might be mixing this figure with contact report 498. Obviously I could be wrong. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_498 Corey, You said that one of the 4 groups is actually future Earth humans and I also remember Ptaah specifically mentioning this in a contact report. But could you please, if possible, tell me in which contact report was this mentioned. I'm asking because I had read it somewhere on the Future of Mankind website but I can't seem to find it again. | ||
Barbatruco New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2015 |
To Joe: That theory of the past for me is obsolete. According to John Titor (a time traveler) there exist infinite possibilities... That mean that if you travel back to the past and for example you kill the illuminate elite reunited in the summit of Vasilea and the boss of the International Setlement Bank to created the protocols of zion, you whould change the world for better... maybe there where no ww1 nor ww2. You will create another temporal path from that point to the future. Note: The headquarter of International Setlement Bank is In the same Vasilea, where was carried out the "first" "bilderberg sumit".. Note: The international setlement bank is a private iluminati masonic "organization" and control all the central bank of all the ocupied (privatized) cantral banks of the world. And the "sufered" religious group is behind all this.... Most of you know of what group I'm talking about.  | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 924 Registered: 12-2009 |
Joe, It was released that one of the 4 groups, is working with future Earth humans, as for what exactly what contact it was, Earthing did a translation of the contact from whatever Bulletin it was, and posted it here on the forums. Sorry, I don't know the exact contact, just going from memory of what he posted here on the forums. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 580 Registered: 09-2011 |
Barbatruco, I admire you for daring to challenge the dominant memes, however they prevail on the FIGU forum as well. The John Titor scenario won't get you very far here, nor will fingering Freemasons and Jews as the power behind the throne. The John Titor scenario has already been disproven in myriad little factoids and inconsistencies. Freemasons and Jews... well, the FIGU canon says that they are simply more competitive than other peoples and groups, and that they haven't done anything wrong. Though they are unrelated, when you mix John Titor with the political impacts of Freemasonry/Judaism, it equates them both as conspiracy theories. In my paranoia, I don't know if that was your intent. As an intelligent person posting to the FIGU forum, obviously abit more read than most, and please don't take this as an insult, but substance goes further here than shallow conjecture. If you have something you know, back it up with substance. Thanks. Life | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 320 Registered: 07-2006 |
Barbatruco, What Billy had to say re: John Titor: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5536.html?1126225909#POST15645 Salome PatM |
